An underwhelming performance by Kamala Harris and Tim Walz during a CNN interview will be enough for Democrats and media (but I repeat myself) to "move on" from the lies that the candidates have told. Walz chalked up his lie about being in combat to a grammatical mistake.
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[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, sometimes my grammar isn't always correct. So
[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just okay move on
[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_00]: so the vice president sat down for a
[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_00]: long-awaited
[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Interview on well with anybody and this happened to be on CNN
[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: With Dana bash do not call her Dana
[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We people were unclear, but it should be clear after last night because Kamala Harris called her Dana and then corrected herself to call her Dana
[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's Dana bash and we know that
[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala is very sensitive
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: To mispronunciation of her first name Kamala, right?
[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: so the Associated Press headline on this was
[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris defends her policy reversals
[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Which?
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Spoiler alert. She actually did not do that. She did not defend her reversals. I don't know what you would
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Classify it as what she did. I'm not really sure she just kind of talked around it. She didn't defend it
[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't say yes, I switched my position on this thing and here's why I was justified in doing so because see that would be a defense of
[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_00]: changing your mind or
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_00]: reversing your policy
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_00]: She did not do that
[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: CNN's
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Article that they published before the interview was
[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Posted and despite what they said on the little Chiron on the bottom right the little bug that says live down there
[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Not live. They had a little live button going down in the corner
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: During the pre-recorded interview it was not a live interview. I
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Bug down there that says live all the time. I don't get it, but I'm not a TV
[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: genius
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So they published a
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: An advanced story a preview story with a couple of clips
[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: In an exclusive CNN interview. It's so funny to me like the people that use these terms exclusive
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: It's always
[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay
[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I get it you want to self-promote. I get it. I've never been the carnival Barker type of media guy
[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Television lives on this stuff and I don't
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big fan. So in an exclusive CNN interview
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris gave the clearest view yet of what she plans for her presidency if elected
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, spoiler alert there. She did not provide a clear view now to be fair to the CNN headline writer
[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It may be the clearest view yet that doesn't make it clear
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it's just that she's less fuzzy
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's still fuzzy. It's just a little bit less so then after the
[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: The interview was aired at nine o'clock in its totality
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: CNN published a piece by Steven Collinson
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Steven Collinson is a senior reporter reporter
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_00]: offering
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_00]: analysis
[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So here's a reporter
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: writing an opinion piece
[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: about the subject matter that he covers because
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a reporter for CNN politics covering the White House and
[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Politics across the United States and around the world. So basically everything
[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Steven Collinson his headline which I'm sure he didn't write himself as we are always told
[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris bolsters momentum in first sit-down interview but leaves gaps on policy detail
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris bolsters momentum, how is that objectively measured?
[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_00]: How would you know that you have bolstered your momentum?
[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Immediately following the interview and
[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Before you suggest. Oh, maybe they had a focus group going or something
[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_00]: He makes no reference to anything like that in his piece. This is his opinion
[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He believes that somehow or another she has improved upon her momentum. She has bolstered the momentum
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: In this interview so it worked out fantastic for her. She did such a great job
[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Which would be a little bit more
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Positive of a spin let's say
[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Then the CNN panel provided immediately after the interview aired
[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Watching that panel trying to find something in the interview that they could point to and say
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like oh she knocked this one out of the park
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: couldn't do it
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: could not do it there were no answers that
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: that
[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That moved the needle that prompted any of the panelists and like seven of the eight of them
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: however many they had up there were you know Democrats or Democrat adjacent or allies
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: They had the one guy Scott Jennings the Republican guy
[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Who you know criticized the speech and Harris and his
[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Co-panelists and all of the others were like oh she did what she had to do
[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I think is what David Axelrod said she did what she had to do. That's what you say
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: when the person didn't do a great job, but
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You know didn't pull a Biden right?
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's the best that they could offer is that she did what she had to do which was what?
[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: sit down for an interview and not
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Cackle uncontrollably or conjure up
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: unending word salads and not give people
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You know memes to mock her with
[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That was the bar apparently
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a huge fan of Dana Bash either
[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Not that I was beforehand, but
[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: She did not ask any follow-up questions
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: To actually get at the why
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: The why is the most important question and
[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: She she just didn't pursue it. She was just not curious I guess well, that's not true
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: the point of this interview in my opinion was that
[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris can now say that she sat for an interview and
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Now whenever anybody asks her another question if she ever gets another question before the election
[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_00]: About why she flipped her position on fracking for example
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: She can just say I already addressed that I already sat for a lengthy interview with CNN
[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Which apparently took like an hour, but we only got to see about 18 minutes of it
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: They're not releasing all of the audio all the rest of the video the raw tape basically. We're not gonna see that I guess
[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So we get the edited versions of
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_00]: all of these clips
[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Roughly a third of the total runtime. That's what we're allowed to see in
[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: This democracy before we choose our leader
[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So she'll get to say I answer these questions. Let's move on
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, nobody's talking about that anymore. Let's talk about the future blah blah blah
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: The problem is that her answer wasn't really an answer. She did not explain why
[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: She changed her position on fracking
[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_00]: She tried to make this argument that in
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: 2020
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_00]: She held a position not to ban fracking but in 2019 she did want to ban fracking said she would
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: 2019 then 2020 rolls around and now she's the vice presidential nominee under Joe Biden
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And she says we're not gonna ban fracking. Oh actually she says Joe Biden is not going to ban fracking
[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_00]: She never said she wouldn't she said Joe Biden won't
[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So what happened what changed?
[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_00]: She she never explains any kind of epiphany moment some sort of a road to Damascus occurrence where oh
[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: This is why fracking is such an important part of our energy and sector. Nope
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Just that her values haven't changed her policies have but her values have it and
[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Policies as we all know are no reflection of your values or something
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_00]: All right
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[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Back in my no, that's that's not true
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Well sometimes my grammar is not always correct. Okay, so
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So Jim Garrity at National Review said this campaign the Harris Walls campaign is built on
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Vibes and it will remain a campaign built on vibes
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It is up to the Trump campaign to convince the public that this election should be about something more. I
[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Agree, however, it's not just
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_00]: The Harris Walls campaign it is also the media the legacy media the mainstream media the corporate media whatever you want to call them
[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Right their jobs
[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_00]: are
[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: connected to
[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: defending Harris Walls
[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if they become if like Dana Bash were to have gotten up there during this interview, which was a really weird setting by the way
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Very weird setting. It was like this darkened cafe
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: With like some random coffee mugs like on the tables behind them
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like everybody had just been kicked out or something and the lights were dimmed
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like no activity at this cafe. So they're sort of harkening back to the the COVID lockdowns
[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But elections are about what media make them and the media appears more than willing to make this about vibes
[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_00]: She's not Donald Trump
[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: She laughs a lot and we like her and that's enough that is enough
[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't a great performance by her or walls the problems with their answers will not matter
[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: To Democrats in the media, but I repeat myself
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine. It's good enough. It's serviceable. It's adequate
[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: it is adequate for them now they can go on to bashing Donald Trump and
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Talking about all the momentum as I read the CNN headline there all the momentum that this is going to provide her
[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So she can win and then we can all be part of the history. Sorry her story
[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: My takeaways from this interview biggest one
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That she had no regrets about lying to us about Joe Biden's cognitive decline and
[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: She literally said that she had no regrets
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Now Dana bad sorry Dana bash did not ask her
[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: when she knew
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that was the most important question that you needed to ask and of course bash did not ask it
[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_00]: When did Kamala Harris know that Joe Biden was in cognitive decline
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: See because that's an uncomfortable question to have to answer
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if Kamala Harris is going to deny that Biden is in cognitive decline
[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: That would expose her as completely detached from reality because we all saw it
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So she can't very well deny that Biden has
[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Cognitively declined
[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So then the question is obviously when did you know this?
[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Was it before that debate?
[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Was it after you told us that he was totally fine during that debate?
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_00]: When did you know?
[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Because we know what you I mean, we're assuming you are not an idiot and you knew about his condition
[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_00]: About his state
[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Now bash did get close to asking a question kind of sort of related to this
[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll take a listen to the answer but she flat out said no regrets
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Also not asked another why question
[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Why did it take you so long to do this interview?
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Why six weeks why why haven't you done any interviews?
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Why did you wait so long to do this one? Why is your emotional support governor with you?
[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: During this interview, which by the way that's another
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Take away that I had was who set up the staging here. It's very weird. It was very weird
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You're looking at this this shot of it's almost like you know like the kind of
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_00]: kitchen tables in sitcoms, you know, like the golden girls for example, do you ever notice that the golden girls?
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_00]: they had a
[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Table in the kitchen with only three chairs, but there were four of them that lived there. Well, what's up with that?
[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They only had three chairs around the table and no chair
[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: With its back to the audience
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_00]: right
[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But you're supposed to just suspend disbelief for that and
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Understand it's a TV show. Okay, so that's sort of the that's not sort of that is the layout that they had at this
[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Interview last night at the cafe if it even was a real cafe. I don't know
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So they're sitting at this table. You got Dana bet sorry Dana bash on the right side
[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Look pointed left you have walls on the left side
[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Pointing right and then you have Harris in the center and
[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: She sat there
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_00]: hunched over
[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Farther back and so she looked tiny
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_00]: She looked like a kid at the adults table. It was it was weird
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a good. It was just not good blocking as they call it in the biz
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_00]: She also said that she stands by by dynamics. That was I believe literally the chiron that flashed up underneath the
[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: the interview on CNN
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: So all of the
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Bidonomics that we're living under she stands by it
[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Also governor walls thinks grammar made him lie. That was the other thing apparently grammar
[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Is why he said that he was in combat
[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: When he wasn't that was just a grammatical mistake
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Right also, everybody knows his record
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But also nobody knows him
[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Very clear very very clear stuff last night
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The email is pete at the pete calliner show dot com and on the twitter machine
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_00]: at pete calliner
[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You can find me also under the list of former wwe champions
[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Of which I was one a world wrestling no no no no no, that's not true
[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, look i'm not going to apologize for speaking passionately. Okay
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what that was
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Me speaking passionately
[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_00]: About a thing that was grammatically maybe not always correct
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: See I can be tim walls too. Look at that
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_00]: This is so easy
[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I could just say whatever I want me like odds grammar. Now. That was a grammatical error my bad
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Actually me saying my bad is more than tim wall said he didn't say my bad
[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't apologize. He's in fact, he said he will not apologize for speaking passionately as if that's what the criticism was
[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. He's apologizing for a thing that no one is accusing him of doing
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_00]: This is like
[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You know the job interview
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Can you tell us one of your weaknesses? Which is just a terrible question
[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: But for some reason hr people thought it was fantastic
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And so they asked people what's your weakness and you know, then people started saying, oh, you know, I just I care too much
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: about
[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_00]: My work. I've got a really good work ethic. I expect great things from my co-workers
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a cross-eyed bear
[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So dumb
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris
[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: According to Stephen Collinson and he would know because he is a senior reporter for cnn politics covering the white house and politics across america and the world
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris showed how she plans to deal with donald trump and win the presidency
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, she did not
[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Um
[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: With the vice president becoming the democrat nominee avoiding slips in this interview that could slow her momentum
[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_00]: See so steven collinson
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The senior reporter for cnn politics covering the white house
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Didn't think Kamala Harris had any slips last night
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a one
[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a one. Gosh, that's amazing. She's so awesome. She's like the light bringer 2.0
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_00]: The original light bringer was obama
[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris went into the interview under enormous scrutiny. Why?
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_00]: For what?
[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_00]: With trump and his allies accusing her. Oh, there you go. There's the pouncing republicans pounce. They accuse her of dodging the press
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Pouncing right
[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_00]: When the scandal is about a republican the story is the scandal and when a scandal is about a democrat
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_00]: The story is the republican reaction to that scandal. It's not the scandal, right?
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So the scandal here is that the woman who was put
[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know installed at the top of the ticket put there by the democrat leadership
[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: because they're
[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The guy that they had rigged their primary
[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: To get through had a terrible debate performance because of his cognitive abilities in decline
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So they stuck her in there
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's the scandal and then she's not doing any interviews no press conferences
[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And how dare you republicans notice
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's the enormous scrutiny
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all from us in the media
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Our paychecks depend on access. So that's the thing. They're not they're not going to do anything to rock their boat
[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: They showed us that during
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: The coup against biden
[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It was only after democrats
[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Started feeding them the narrative that they then
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_00]: promoted it
[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_00]: forcing biden out
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: In years past they would also exert that kind of pressure and had that kind of effect on the republican party
[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But trump blew all that up and that's probably partly why they hate him
[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he he doesn't care right access hollywood tape done no problem 34 convictions. Yeah
[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't matter
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: They the media has so alienated half of the population
[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: That republicans are no longer beholden to their characterizations of what is and isn't a scandal and what they need to defend or disavow
[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: um
[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Back to this piece harris went into the interview
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: um
[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_00]: under enormous scrutiny
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: With trump and his allies accusing her of dodging the press and predicting she would fizzle under pressure
[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Be undermined by her own policy switches and burst the bubble of joy around her campaign
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's a bubble of joy around her campaign. Did you know that a bubble of joy? I don't know what that looks like
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, i'm not sure
[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_00]: uh, maybe the cnn politics senior correspondent or senior reporter could elaborate on what a bubble of joy looks like
[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But not mentioned once during the interview
[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: joy
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_00]: No mention of the joy
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_00]: No mention of the threat to democracy
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_00]: no mention to the existential threat that adolf hitler trump poses
[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_00]: to america
[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_00]: also
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: A minimal amount of cackling
[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So you know they are aware of this right
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know that they view the the laughing
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And the reliance on this stupid slogan of joy. You know that the campaign recognizes that these are not good things and so
[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Shut up with the joy
[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And stop all of the laughing
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: right
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_00]: The vice president preferred sweeping themes and aspirations rather than detailed policy blueprints and we let her get away with that
[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Right she got up there and she talked in sweeping themes and aspirations
[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Rather than you know explain how to achieve any of those themes or aspirations and she declined to fully explain
[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: reversals on issues like immigration and energy
[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I love that phrase. She declined to fully explain
[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's okay
[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate the offer to explain why i'm a liar. I will respectfully decline that opportunity
[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_00]: She was a more deft
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Disciplined and prepared political figure than she appeared in her short lived bid for the 2020 democratic nomination
[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Or in accident prone moments early in her tenure as vice president accident
[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Oops this thing just happened to me. I didn't read any of the advanced materials
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea what i'm supposed to be saying
[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So now i'm just making up a bunch of word salad and oops
[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: What an accident gosh, I can't believe that happened to me. See all of this is this passive voice
[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all stuff that happens to her. It's not her doing any of this
[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just circumstances
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just an accident. No one's at fault
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: smoothly countered questions and follow-ups about her vulnerabilities by
[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Pivoting to safer talking points as she failed to do in a damaging interview with NBC in 2021
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know why?
[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Your colleague dana bash let her do so
[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Dana bash as a journalist the representative of we the people right she is representing us in that format
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_00]: In that setting in the exclusive interview
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: She is our representative at that table
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And she let harris get away
[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: With well, what did he call it?
[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_00]: deftly
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: pivoting to safer talking points
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_00]: In a way that she was unable to do
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_00]: When lester holt was asking the questions
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I gotta say I wasn't always a huge fan of lester holt
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But his stock has gone up in value in my eyes after last night
[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: um
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_00]: in the aftermath of the
[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: president or sorry vice presidents
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: interview
[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And just as an aside, I too am a former vice president
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, no, no states of america. No, that's not true
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Again my grammar is not always correct john
[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, okay. Okay. It's just a grammatical error that I have made
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: People know my record
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And also I've never heard of me
[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Um
[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm big in singapore though apparently uh, no not true. Yeah. All righty, so uh
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: CNN's headline
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: This was released prior to the exclusive interview
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: headline harris explains
[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: In exclusive CNN interview why she has shifted her position on key issues since her first run for president
[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: She did not in fact explain any of that really. Um, when you watch the interview there was no actual explanation provided
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: um
[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Back to steven collinson's piece. He is again the cnn politics senior reporter correspondent covering the white house
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He says harris's demeanor as she tried to appeal to available voters who were
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Unenthusiastic about former president joe biden probably fulfilled most of her campaign's goals for the interview
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't tell us what those were and was in keeping with her apparent strategy of providing a safe harbor for any american
[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Disgusted by donald trump. Okay, that is true
[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_00]: That is true. All she has to be is not donald trump and
[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Check that box. There's only one of him
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris was elusive on what she would actually do as president dealing in themes and aspirations
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Rather than policy specifics and sometimes straddling key issues to avoid painful choices
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what does that mean? What does that mean straddling key issues to avoid painful choices
[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So she's not going to tell us where she stands on something. She's trying to have it both ways
[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_00]: right
[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_00]: refusing to tell us her position
[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Her answers were replete with ways
[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: She hoped to help the middle class by lowering prices making housing more affordable
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Lowering drug prices and creating new jobs
[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But harris did not lay out a clear path for navigating treacherous politics to enact such plans
[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_00]: She also did not say how she would pay for such programs, but other than that everybody other than those
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_00]: tiny little details
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh brilliant performance
[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Her tendency to talk in generalities rather than policy nuts and bolts was exemplified by the first question
[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: In the interview when she was unable to provide a precise answer on one
[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_00]: distinct step that she would take on day one of her presidency
[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, this is a standard question
[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_00]: This question gets asked in some form or another
[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_00]: In virtually every interview
[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_00]: somebody's running for office
[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: One of the first questions is
[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Aside from you tell us a little about yourself or why you decided to run or whatever
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It is what do you hope to accomplish?
[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_00]: What are your goals? Why do you want this gig?
[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Right and then the politician
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You know gives us some
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_00]: concocted answer about how you know go to the people totally not in it for power that kind of thing
[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But you got to have like you had six weeks to prepare for this interview and this is what you came up with
[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: nothing
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And by the way
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: This is one of the knocks on Kamala Harris, and I don't know if the mainstream media knows this
[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But I know it but one of the knocks on her has been that she doesn't do her homework
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't read the briefings and the prep material before she goes to events
[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It's why she ends up talking about Venn diagrams and her love of them
[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_00]: This is why you had six weeks to to come up with some kind of rehearsed explanation
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_00]: For why you have flip-flopped on stuff and the best you came up with was my values haven't changed
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't answer the question
[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Unless of course now see a reporter would say a good reporter unlike apparently dana bash
[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Would follow up by saying well your values didn't change but your policies did so are your values not tied to your policies
[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the act the natural follow-up. Why would you not ask that question? Well again?
[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_00]: The point is not to make her look bad. It's to protect her in this setting
[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So this way now she can say I did the interview. I've addressed these questions
[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on people don't want to hear about that. They want to hear about what i'm going to do for them
[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris also shrugged off questions about why she had been vice president for three and a half years in the administration
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And had not affected items in her economic plan offering a potential opening to the trump campaign
[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think so?
[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think so?
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And while she effectively showed her that she understands the painful impact of high grocery prices
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_00]: She was not fully able to account for why they had risen so high
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: under the biden harris administration
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but other than that everybody she did a great job. You did a good job
[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening
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