Lies are not grammatical errors (08-30-2024--Hour1)
The Pete Kaliner ShowAugust 30, 202400:31:1228.63 MB

Lies are not grammatical errors (08-30-2024--Hour1)

An underwhelming performance by Kamala Harris and Tim Walz during a CNN interview will be enough for Democrats and media (but I repeat myself) to "move on" from the lies that the candidates have told. Walz chalked up his lie about being in combat to a grammatical mistake.

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[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, sometimes my grammar isn't always correct. So

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just okay move on

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_00]: so the vice president sat down for a

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_00]: long-awaited

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Interview on well with anybody and this happened to be on CNN

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: With Dana bash do not call her Dana

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We people were unclear, but it should be clear after last night because Kamala Harris called her Dana and then corrected herself to call her Dana

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's Dana bash and we know that

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala is very sensitive

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: To mispronunciation of her first name Kamala, right?

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: so the Associated Press headline on this was

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris defends her policy reversals

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Which?

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Spoiler alert. She actually did not do that. She did not defend her reversals. I don't know what you would

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Classify it as what she did. I'm not really sure she just kind of talked around it. She didn't defend it

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't say yes, I switched my position on this thing and here's why I was justified in doing so because see that would be a defense of

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_00]: changing your mind or

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_00]: reversing your policy

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_00]: She did not do that

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: CNN's

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Article that they published before the interview was

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Posted and despite what they said on the little Chiron on the bottom right the little bug that says live down there

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Not live. They had a little live button going down in the corner

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: During the pre-recorded interview it was not a live interview. I

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Bug down there that says live all the time. I don't get it, but I'm not a TV

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: genius

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So they published a

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: An advanced story a preview story with a couple of clips

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: In an exclusive CNN interview. It's so funny to me like the people that use these terms exclusive

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: It's always

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I get it you want to self-promote. I get it. I've never been the carnival Barker type of media guy

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Television lives on this stuff and I don't

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big fan. So in an exclusive CNN interview

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris gave the clearest view yet of what she plans for her presidency if elected

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, spoiler alert there. She did not provide a clear view now to be fair to the CNN headline writer

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It may be the clearest view yet that doesn't make it clear

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it's just that she's less fuzzy

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's still fuzzy. It's just a little bit less so then after the

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: The interview was aired at nine o'clock in its totality

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: CNN published a piece by Steven Collinson

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Steven Collinson is a senior reporter reporter

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_00]: offering

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_00]: analysis

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So here's a reporter

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: writing an opinion piece

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: about the subject matter that he covers because

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a reporter for CNN politics covering the White House and

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Politics across the United States and around the world. So basically everything

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Steven Collinson his headline which I'm sure he didn't write himself as we are always told

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris bolsters momentum in first sit-down interview but leaves gaps on policy detail

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris bolsters momentum, how is that objectively measured?

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_00]: How would you know that you have bolstered your momentum?

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Immediately following the interview and

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Before you suggest. Oh, maybe they had a focus group going or something

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_00]: He makes no reference to anything like that in his piece. This is his opinion

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He believes that somehow or another she has improved upon her momentum. She has bolstered the momentum

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: In this interview so it worked out fantastic for her. She did such a great job

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Which would be a little bit more

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Positive of a spin let's say

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Then the CNN panel provided immediately after the interview aired

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Watching that panel trying to find something in the interview that they could point to and say

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like oh she knocked this one out of the park

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: couldn't do it

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: could not do it there were no answers that

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: that

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That moved the needle that prompted any of the panelists and like seven of the eight of them

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: however many they had up there were you know Democrats or Democrat adjacent or allies

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: They had the one guy Scott Jennings the Republican guy

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Who you know criticized the speech and Harris and his

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Co-panelists and all of the others were like oh she did what she had to do

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I think is what David Axelrod said she did what she had to do. That's what you say

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: when the person didn't do a great job, but

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You know didn't pull a Biden right?

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's the best that they could offer is that she did what she had to do which was what?

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: sit down for an interview and not

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Cackle uncontrollably or conjure up

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: unending word salads and not give people

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You know memes to mock her with

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That was the bar apparently

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a huge fan of Dana Bash either

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Not that I was beforehand, but

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: She did not ask any follow-up questions

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: To actually get at the why

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: The why is the most important question and

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: She she just didn't pursue it. She was just not curious I guess well, that's not true

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: the point of this interview in my opinion was that

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris can now say that she sat for an interview and

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Now whenever anybody asks her another question if she ever gets another question before the election

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_00]: About why she flipped her position on fracking for example

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: She can just say I already addressed that I already sat for a lengthy interview with CNN

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Which apparently took like an hour, but we only got to see about 18 minutes of it

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: They're not releasing all of the audio all the rest of the video the raw tape basically. We're not gonna see that I guess

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So we get the edited versions of

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_00]: all of these clips

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Roughly a third of the total runtime. That's what we're allowed to see in

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: This democracy before we choose our leader

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So she'll get to say I answer these questions. Let's move on

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, nobody's talking about that anymore. Let's talk about the future blah blah blah

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: The problem is that her answer wasn't really an answer. She did not explain why

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: She changed her position on fracking

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_00]: She tried to make this argument that in

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: 2020

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_00]: She held a position not to ban fracking but in 2019 she did want to ban fracking said she would

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: 2019 then 2020 rolls around and now she's the vice presidential nominee under Joe Biden

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And she says we're not gonna ban fracking. Oh actually she says Joe Biden is not going to ban fracking

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_00]: She never said she wouldn't she said Joe Biden won't

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So what happened what changed?

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_00]: She she never explains any kind of epiphany moment some sort of a road to Damascus occurrence where oh

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: This is why fracking is such an important part of our energy and sector. Nope

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Just that her values haven't changed her policies have but her values have it and

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Policies as we all know are no reflection of your values or something

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_00]: All right

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[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I your humble host a world series MVP

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Back in my no, that's that's not true

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Well sometimes my grammar is not always correct. Okay, so

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So Jim Garrity at National Review said this campaign the Harris Walls campaign is built on

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Vibes and it will remain a campaign built on vibes

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It is up to the Trump campaign to convince the public that this election should be about something more. I

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Agree, however, it's not just

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_00]: The Harris Walls campaign it is also the media the legacy media the mainstream media the corporate media whatever you want to call them

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Right their jobs

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_00]: are

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: connected to

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: defending Harris Walls

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if they become if like Dana Bash were to have gotten up there during this interview, which was a really weird setting by the way

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Very weird setting. It was like this darkened cafe

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: With like some random coffee mugs like on the tables behind them

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Like everybody had just been kicked out or something and the lights were dimmed

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like no activity at this cafe. So they're sort of harkening back to the the COVID lockdowns

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But elections are about what media make them and the media appears more than willing to make this about vibes

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_00]: She's not Donald Trump

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: She laughs a lot and we like her and that's enough that is enough

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't a great performance by her or walls the problems with their answers will not matter

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: To Democrats in the media, but I repeat myself

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine. It's good enough. It's serviceable. It's adequate

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: it is adequate for them now they can go on to bashing Donald Trump and

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Talking about all the momentum as I read the CNN headline there all the momentum that this is going to provide her

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So she can win and then we can all be part of the history. Sorry her story

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: My takeaways from this interview biggest one

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That she had no regrets about lying to us about Joe Biden's cognitive decline and

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: She literally said that she had no regrets

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Now Dana bad sorry Dana bash did not ask her

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: when she knew

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that was the most important question that you needed to ask and of course bash did not ask it

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_00]: When did Kamala Harris know that Joe Biden was in cognitive decline

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: See because that's an uncomfortable question to have to answer

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if Kamala Harris is going to deny that Biden is in cognitive decline

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: That would expose her as completely detached from reality because we all saw it

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So she can't very well deny that Biden has

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Cognitively declined

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So then the question is obviously when did you know this?

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Was it before that debate?

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Was it after you told us that he was totally fine during that debate?

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_00]: When did you know?

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Because we know what you I mean, we're assuming you are not an idiot and you knew about his condition

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_00]: About his state

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Now bash did get close to asking a question kind of sort of related to this

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll take a listen to the answer but she flat out said no regrets

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Also not asked another why question

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Why did it take you so long to do this interview?

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Why six weeks why why haven't you done any interviews?

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Why did you wait so long to do this one? Why is your emotional support governor with you?

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: During this interview, which by the way that's another

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Take away that I had was who set up the staging here. It's very weird. It was very weird

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You're looking at this this shot of it's almost like you know like the kind of

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_00]: kitchen tables in sitcoms, you know, like the golden girls for example, do you ever notice that the golden girls?

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_00]: they had a

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Table in the kitchen with only three chairs, but there were four of them that lived there. Well, what's up with that?

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They only had three chairs around the table and no chair

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: With its back to the audience

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_00]: right

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But you're supposed to just suspend disbelief for that and

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Understand it's a TV show. Okay, so that's sort of the that's not sort of that is the layout that they had at this

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Interview last night at the cafe if it even was a real cafe. I don't know

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So they're sitting at this table. You got Dana bet sorry Dana bash on the right side

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Look pointed left you have walls on the left side

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Pointing right and then you have Harris in the center and

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: She sat there

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_00]: hunched over

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Farther back and so she looked tiny

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_00]: She looked like a kid at the adults table. It was it was weird

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a good. It was just not good blocking as they call it in the biz

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_00]: She also said that she stands by by dynamics. That was I believe literally the chiron that flashed up underneath the

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: the interview on CNN

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: So all of the

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Bidonomics that we're living under she stands by it

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Also governor walls thinks grammar made him lie. That was the other thing apparently grammar

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Is why he said that he was in combat

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: When he wasn't that was just a grammatical mistake

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Right also, everybody knows his record

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But also nobody knows him

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Very clear very very clear stuff last night

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The email is pete at the pete calliner show dot com and on the twitter machine

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_00]: at pete calliner

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You can find me also under the list of former wwe champions

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Of which I was one a world wrestling no no no no no, that's not true

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, look i'm not going to apologize for speaking passionately. Okay

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what that was

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Me speaking passionately

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_00]: About a thing that was grammatically maybe not always correct

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: See I can be tim walls too. Look at that

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_00]: This is so easy

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I could just say whatever I want me like odds grammar. Now. That was a grammatical error my bad

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Actually me saying my bad is more than tim wall said he didn't say my bad

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't apologize. He's in fact, he said he will not apologize for speaking passionately as if that's what the criticism was

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. He's apologizing for a thing that no one is accusing him of doing

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_00]: This is like

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You know the job interview

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Can you tell us one of your weaknesses? Which is just a terrible question

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: But for some reason hr people thought it was fantastic

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And so they asked people what's your weakness and you know, then people started saying, oh, you know, I just I care too much

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: about

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_00]: My work. I've got a really good work ethic. I expect great things from my co-workers

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a cross-eyed bear

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So dumb

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: According to Stephen Collinson and he would know because he is a senior reporter for cnn politics covering the white house and politics across america and the world

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris showed how she plans to deal with donald trump and win the presidency

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, she did not

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: With the vice president becoming the democrat nominee avoiding slips in this interview that could slow her momentum

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_00]: See so steven collinson

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The senior reporter for cnn politics covering the white house

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Didn't think Kamala Harris had any slips last night

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a one

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a one. Gosh, that's amazing. She's so awesome. She's like the light bringer 2.0

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_00]: The original light bringer was obama

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris went into the interview under enormous scrutiny. Why?

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_00]: For what?

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_00]: With trump and his allies accusing her. Oh, there you go. There's the pouncing republicans pounce. They accuse her of dodging the press

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Pouncing right

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_00]: When the scandal is about a republican the story is the scandal and when a scandal is about a democrat

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_00]: The story is the republican reaction to that scandal. It's not the scandal, right?

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So the scandal here is that the woman who was put

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know installed at the top of the ticket put there by the democrat leadership

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: because they're

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The guy that they had rigged their primary

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: To get through had a terrible debate performance because of his cognitive abilities in decline

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So they stuck her in there

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's the scandal and then she's not doing any interviews no press conferences

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And how dare you republicans notice

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's the enormous scrutiny

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all from us in the media

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Our paychecks depend on access. So that's the thing. They're not they're not going to do anything to rock their boat

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: They showed us that during

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: The coup against biden

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It was only after democrats

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Started feeding them the narrative that they then

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_00]: promoted it

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_00]: forcing biden out

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: In years past they would also exert that kind of pressure and had that kind of effect on the republican party

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But trump blew all that up and that's probably partly why they hate him

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he he doesn't care right access hollywood tape done no problem 34 convictions. Yeah

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't matter

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: They the media has so alienated half of the population

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: That republicans are no longer beholden to their characterizations of what is and isn't a scandal and what they need to defend or disavow

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Back to this piece harris went into the interview

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_00]: under enormous scrutiny

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: With trump and his allies accusing her of dodging the press and predicting she would fizzle under pressure

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Be undermined by her own policy switches and burst the bubble of joy around her campaign

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's a bubble of joy around her campaign. Did you know that a bubble of joy? I don't know what that looks like

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, i'm not sure

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_00]: uh, maybe the cnn politics senior correspondent or senior reporter could elaborate on what a bubble of joy looks like

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But not mentioned once during the interview

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: joy

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_00]: No mention of the joy

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_00]: No mention of the threat to democracy

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_00]: no mention to the existential threat that adolf hitler trump poses

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_00]: to america

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_00]: also

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: A minimal amount of cackling

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So you know they are aware of this right

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know that they view the the laughing

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And the reliance on this stupid slogan of joy. You know that the campaign recognizes that these are not good things and so

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Shut up with the joy

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And stop all of the laughing

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: right

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_00]: The vice president preferred sweeping themes and aspirations rather than detailed policy blueprints and we let her get away with that

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Right she got up there and she talked in sweeping themes and aspirations

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Rather than you know explain how to achieve any of those themes or aspirations and she declined to fully explain

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: reversals on issues like immigration and energy

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I love that phrase. She declined to fully explain

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's okay

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate the offer to explain why i'm a liar. I will respectfully decline that opportunity

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_00]: She was a more deft

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Disciplined and prepared political figure than she appeared in her short lived bid for the 2020 democratic nomination

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Or in accident prone moments early in her tenure as vice president accident

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Oops this thing just happened to me. I didn't read any of the advanced materials

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea what i'm supposed to be saying

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So now i'm just making up a bunch of word salad and oops

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: What an accident gosh, I can't believe that happened to me. See all of this is this passive voice

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all stuff that happens to her. It's not her doing any of this

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just circumstances

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just an accident. No one's at fault

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: smoothly countered questions and follow-ups about her vulnerabilities by

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Pivoting to safer talking points as she failed to do in a damaging interview with NBC in 2021

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know why?

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Your colleague dana bash let her do so

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Dana bash as a journalist the representative of we the people right she is representing us in that format

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_00]: In that setting in the exclusive interview

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: She is our representative at that table

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And she let harris get away

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: With well, what did he call it?

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_00]: deftly

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: pivoting to safer talking points

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_00]: In a way that she was unable to do

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_00]: When lester holt was asking the questions

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I gotta say I wasn't always a huge fan of lester holt

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But his stock has gone up in value in my eyes after last night

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_00]: in the aftermath of the

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: president or sorry vice presidents

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: interview

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And just as an aside, I too am a former vice president

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, no, no states of america. No, that's not true

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Again my grammar is not always correct john

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, okay. Okay. It's just a grammatical error that I have made

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: People know my record

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And also I've never heard of me

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm big in singapore though apparently uh, no not true. Yeah. All righty, so uh

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: CNN's headline

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: This was released prior to the exclusive interview

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: headline harris explains

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: In exclusive CNN interview why she has shifted her position on key issues since her first run for president

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: She did not in fact explain any of that really. Um, when you watch the interview there was no actual explanation provided

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Back to steven collinson's piece. He is again the cnn politics senior reporter correspondent covering the white house

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He says harris's demeanor as she tried to appeal to available voters who were

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Unenthusiastic about former president joe biden probably fulfilled most of her campaign's goals for the interview

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't tell us what those were and was in keeping with her apparent strategy of providing a safe harbor for any american

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Disgusted by donald trump. Okay, that is true

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_00]: That is true. All she has to be is not donald trump and

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Check that box. There's only one of him

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris was elusive on what she would actually do as president dealing in themes and aspirations

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Rather than policy specifics and sometimes straddling key issues to avoid painful choices

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what does that mean? What does that mean straddling key issues to avoid painful choices

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So she's not going to tell us where she stands on something. She's trying to have it both ways

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_00]: right

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_00]: refusing to tell us her position

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Her answers were replete with ways

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: She hoped to help the middle class by lowering prices making housing more affordable

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Lowering drug prices and creating new jobs

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But harris did not lay out a clear path for navigating treacherous politics to enact such plans

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_00]: She also did not say how she would pay for such programs, but other than that everybody other than those

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_00]: tiny little details

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh brilliant performance

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Her tendency to talk in generalities rather than policy nuts and bolts was exemplified by the first question

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: In the interview when she was unable to provide a precise answer on one

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_00]: distinct step that she would take on day one of her presidency

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, this is a standard question

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_00]: This question gets asked in some form or another

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_00]: In virtually every interview

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_00]: somebody's running for office

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: One of the first questions is

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Aside from you tell us a little about yourself or why you decided to run or whatever

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It is what do you hope to accomplish?

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_00]: What are your goals? Why do you want this gig?

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Right and then the politician

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You know gives us some

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_00]: concocted answer about how you know go to the people totally not in it for power that kind of thing

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But you got to have like you had six weeks to prepare for this interview and this is what you came up with

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_00]: nothing

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And by the way

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: This is one of the knocks on Kamala Harris, and I don't know if the mainstream media knows this

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But I know it but one of the knocks on her has been that she doesn't do her homework

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't read the briefings and the prep material before she goes to events

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It's why she ends up talking about Venn diagrams and her love of them

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_00]: This is why you had six weeks to to come up with some kind of rehearsed explanation

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_00]: For why you have flip-flopped on stuff and the best you came up with was my values haven't changed

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't answer the question

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Unless of course now see a reporter would say a good reporter unlike apparently dana bash

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Would follow up by saying well your values didn't change but your policies did so are your values not tied to your policies

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the act the natural follow-up. Why would you not ask that question? Well again?

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_00]: The point is not to make her look bad. It's to protect her in this setting

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So this way now she can say I did the interview. I've addressed these questions

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on people don't want to hear about that. They want to hear about what i'm going to do for them

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris also shrugged off questions about why she had been vice president for three and a half years in the administration

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And had not affected items in her economic plan offering a potential opening to the trump campaign

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think so?

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think so?

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And while she effectively showed her that she understands the painful impact of high grocery prices

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_00]: She was not fully able to account for why they had risen so high

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: under the biden harris administration

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but other than that everybody she did a great job. You did a good job

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