Leftists sure seem to find a lot of excuses for violence (12-12-2024--Hour1)

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[00:00:57] override of the override of the governor's veto for Senate Bill 382. Whoa, man, they are out in full force. They got their groove back. Having learned nothing from their election losses, leftists have returned to social media with their hateful and ignorant commentary that drove so many normies away from them in the first place. But it's definitely the normies' fault.

[00:01:25] All right, so I'll pass back to that in due time here today. But I want to start off with a piece that appeared at the Washington Examiner, written by David Harsanyi. And the headline is,

[00:01:41] It's time for a national conversation about left-wing violence.

[00:01:49] I, like, this was my argument the other day, I believe, when Mike called in and wanted to talk about the thing that motivated the New York City shooter, the man who assassinated, allegedly, the UnitedHealthcare CEO.

[00:02:06] You know, I'm not saying that he should have killed him, but it's like, just, just stop. Just stop after, just before the but, just stop.

[00:02:18] Because at the core of this deflection is, at the core of the deflection is a desire to not address the thing that is spoiling the ability to debate.

[00:02:37] Which is an inherent assumption that if I disagree with you somehow or another, my life is now at risk.

[00:02:43] And I'm not willing now to engage in any kind of an argument with you as a leftist, right?

[00:02:49] I'm not going to engage in arguments with you because you think my disagreement somehow or another entitles you or one of your fellow leftist travelers to kill me.

[00:03:02] And that is not a, dare I call it a safe space, right?

[00:03:08] That is not the makings of a civil society.

[00:03:12] We settle political disagreements through our words.

[00:03:19] Do you ever feel like sometimes you have to talk to a lot of leftists as if they are children?

[00:03:24] We settle these things with our words, not our hands, right?

[00:03:29] And that's, that's what this conversation about Luigi, the murderer, allegedly, that's where this is now gone.

[00:03:39] And it went there very quickly.

[00:03:40] So Harsany writes this piece that it should not be lost on us that there is a clear ideological continuum between people who rationalize the shooting of a CEO and those who rationalize the murder and rape of Jews by Palestinian terrorists.

[00:04:02] And those who rationalize the burning down of cities for social justice, right?

[00:04:09] There is a clear ideological continuum between these groups.

[00:04:14] How many people, if you've been on social media for the last week or so, how many of the people that have been echoing this kind of a sentiment had watermelons in their profiles?

[00:04:31] Watermelon being a symbol for pro-Palestine, pro-Hamas.

[00:04:36] That's different.

[00:04:36] It's not Hamas.

[00:04:37] Hamas is just the governing body and blah, blah, blah.

[00:04:41] You put a watermelon in your profile.

[00:04:44] You are virtue signaling that you are morally superior because you support what Hamas did and Palestinians did on October 7th.

[00:04:55] How many of these people have the little Antifa rose icon?

[00:04:59] When you start seeing these, when you know what the icons are and you see them in people's profiles, you see the pattern very clearly.

[00:05:10] If you're convinced that your opponents are abetting some imaginary quote-unquote genocide, then you have a moral duty to stop them.

[00:05:22] This has always been the problem with equating your political opponents to Hitler.

[00:05:27] Hitler.

[00:05:27] I've gone over this before in the past as well.

[00:05:31] There is a philosophical thought experiment about if you could get into a time machine and go back in time and kill baby Hitler, would you kill baby Hitler?

[00:05:42] That's the thought experiment.

[00:05:44] Knowing what you know about Hitler now and going back in time and you would have to kill a baby, but it would save all of these other lives.

[00:05:55] Right?

[00:05:55] That's the thought experiment.

[00:05:59] So when you start equating people to Hitler, then you open up that permission structure to start thinking, well, what would you do in order to prevent another Hitler?

[00:06:11] And by the way, in that thought experiment, there are people that come down on different sides of that question.

[00:06:19] And so if the person who's like, oh yes, we should totally go back in time and kill people, then why wouldn't they do it now?

[00:06:30] If they think that that person is alive right now and they're making these predictions.

[00:06:35] This is why I try to always steer away from the speculation and prediction game, you know?

[00:06:42] Because once you make these predictions, which are based on your own biases and opinions, informed as they may be, but you're basing these on preconceived ideas.

[00:06:57] And so you're making predictions, not you personally, but like one makes these predictions.

[00:07:02] And then when verbalized, now you're on the record and then you end up having to defend predictions that you don't know if they're going to be true or not.

[00:07:11] Why bother?

[00:07:13] Why bother locking yourself into a prediction that was made before all of the evidence came out?

[00:07:20] Because then you would have to come out after new evidence is presented.

[00:07:23] You have to say, okay, I was wrong.

[00:07:24] I didn't know about this new piece of evidence.

[00:07:26] And then it becomes this whole thing.

[00:07:27] You don't want to have to acknowledge a mistake, especially if it's on social media.

[00:07:31] So you get locked in to a position because you made a prediction without all evidence.

[00:07:38] And there isn't a lot of value in like 90% of these predictions.

[00:07:44] So much of the left-wing violence we have seen now is predicated on the idea that their enemy is irredeemably nefarious.

[00:07:55] Right?

[00:07:58] This goes to the ascribing of motives.

[00:08:01] I've talked about this for years.

[00:08:02] So many people, both left and right, but you see it a lot on the left and in the media where there is an assumption of the motive.

[00:08:13] I have said for years, a lot of people, most people, Republican and Democrat, conservative and liberal, most people want the same thing as a result.

[00:08:27] Everybody would be like virtually, again, I would guess probably 99% of Americans would prefer that there be no poverty.

[00:08:38] Prefer that there be no school shootings.

[00:08:42] Prefer that there be no fill in the blank of a horrendous thing.

[00:08:45] Right?

[00:08:47] The difference is how do we get there?

[00:08:49] And when you say, well, that person has a different pathway they want to pursue to get to the result that we both agree on.

[00:08:58] But because they have a different course they want to proceed down, that that makes them evil.

[00:09:05] That now I'm going to ascribe a motive that they really don't want that thing that I want.

[00:09:13] Now that gives you permission for all sorts of things.

[00:09:16] You see it after the school shootings.

[00:09:18] You see it after mass shootings where they're like, oh, they just want more people to die.

[00:09:21] What is that?

[00:09:22] That is an ascribing of motive.

[00:09:24] That somehow or another, a whole bunch of people want this terrible thing to occur.

[00:09:29] Why?

[00:09:29] Because they're evil.

[00:09:31] Like Hitler.

[00:09:32] And if you can go back in time, would you kill baby Hitler?

[00:09:37] So the alleged murderer, Luigi, quotes left-wing terrorist Ted Kaczynski.

[00:09:45] The Unabomber's unhinged demonization of modernity and capitalism was a fringe position back in the 1990s.

[00:09:53] Now the unhinged demonization of health insurance, the pharmaceutical industry, except for the COVID shots, big oil.

[00:10:03] Right?

[00:10:04] That's the norm now.

[00:10:05] A generation of college students have been indoctrinated into believing that the profit motive is killing people when in fact the opposite is the truth.

[00:10:16] We have a higher standard of living.

[00:10:20] We have a higher standard of living, fewer people in poverty, a lifespan that 100 years ago people wouldn't even believe could be achieved.

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[00:11:42] David Arsani writing at the Washington Examiner.

[00:11:46] He says, of course, leftist violence is always treated as something completely apart.

[00:11:52] Every time there's a mass shooting, everybody scours the web trying to divine the motivations of the shooter.

[00:12:00] When the perpetrator is a left-winger, the media plunges into a national discussion about the problems of gun culture.

[00:12:09] When there's no coherent ideological reason for the shooting, the media plunges into a discussion about problems of gun culture.

[00:12:16] When the shooter is a right-winger or anything that could approximate one, we are called to talk about gun culture and the climate of hate created by conservative rhetoric.

[00:12:33] That's the standard playbook.

[00:12:35] I would agree with Arsani on that.

[00:12:38] The motive hunters raced to the information superhighway to pick through all of the social media accounts to try to say,

[00:12:50] Aha, see? He was a tea partier.

[00:12:52] Ah, he was a MAGA.

[00:12:56] The left has been prone to violence, though, since year zero.

[00:13:01] In the early 1900s, the United States, it's a commie term, by the way, year zero,

[00:13:07] which basically means that you are unburdened by what has been.

[00:13:12] In the early 1900s, the United States was awash in communist and anarchist bombings,

[00:13:19] culminating in the deaths of 30 people on Wall Street in 1920.

[00:13:23] Did you know that?

[00:13:24] Most cultural depictions of the 60s upheavals were of a genteel, peace-loving movement,

[00:13:31] but it was imbued with extremists as well.

[00:13:35] In fact, by the 1970s, left-wing terrorist groups, such as the Weather Underground,

[00:13:40] were setting off bombs at the Capitol, police stations, the Pentagon, state attorneys' general offices.

[00:13:48] In an 18-month period between 1971 and 1972, there were an amazing 2,500 bombings in the United States by leftist groups.

[00:13:59] Did you know that?

[00:14:03] Do we ever get to have a conversation about that problem?

[00:14:07] Do the Democrats ever want to try to root out that problem?

[00:14:13] You guys keep playing footsie with these leftist terrorist sympathizers.

[00:14:20] It's not going to end well.

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[00:14:53] 2,500 bombings in the United States over an 18-month period, 71 to 72.

[00:15:00] Che Guevara, Mao Zedong, Kathy Bowden,

[00:15:06] former Weather Underground member, by the way,

[00:15:08] who was involved in that Brinks truck robbery,

[00:15:11] killed two innocent people,

[00:15:14] she operated the Columbia University Center for Justice for decades.

[00:15:18] That's how she was rewarded.

[00:15:20] Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorn, right?

[00:15:23] Two other members.

[00:15:24] How about Angela Davis?

[00:15:26] Widely considered a hero by younger progressives

[00:15:29] who not only championed murders and terrorist regimes her entire career,

[00:15:34] but bought two guns that were used in a courtroom kidnapping shootout

[00:15:38] perpetrated by the Black Panthers in 1970.

[00:15:41] Three hostages and a superior court judge were all killed in California.

[00:15:48] Are you aware of a similar incident with right-wingers?

[00:15:54] James Hodgkinson mentioned him the other day as well.

[00:15:59] Walked onto a baseball field in 2018,

[00:16:01] opened fire at a Republican congressional delegation.

[00:16:04] He was a Bernie bro, screamed,

[00:16:09] this is for health care, as he tried to murder Republicans.

[00:16:14] These are the people that have been celebrated by the left,

[00:16:19] you know, specifically and more widely, Democrats.

[00:16:22] Democrats.

[00:16:23] They get a pass.

[00:16:25] And they give passes to people among them

[00:16:29] when they show up at the Democrat candidates' event

[00:16:32] wearing a Che Guevara shirt.

[00:16:34] Like, oh, that's just youthful exuberance.

[00:16:38] Oh, you know, I had a Che t-shirt myself one time.

[00:16:42] The guy was a murderer.

[00:16:45] And note the difference in the way that the media treated

[00:16:49] the leftist assassin who showed up at Supreme Court Justice

[00:16:54] Brett Kavanaugh's home

[00:16:56] to try to stop Roe v. Wade from being overturned

[00:16:59] and that he was going to murder three different justices, right?

[00:17:03] By the way, I said this the other day about the lunatic Luigi

[00:17:10] and people asked, oh, why was he caught with the gun?

[00:17:13] Why did he still have the gun?

[00:17:14] And I said, he may have been trying to go back

[00:17:18] and kill other CEOs, other executives in other companies.

[00:17:23] I don't know.

[00:17:24] Looks more and more like the guy had a psychotic break

[00:17:28] and is a paranoid schizophrenic.

[00:17:31] That's what it kind of sounds like to me.

[00:17:32] He's about the right age.

[00:17:34] I mean, he is the right age.

[00:17:35] That is the age where males have these types of psychotic breaks,

[00:17:40] especially if they are dabbling in hallucinogenics,

[00:17:45] as he apparently reportedly had.

[00:17:52] David Harsani points out that to the left,

[00:17:54] parents who protest school boards over critical race theory

[00:17:58] and mask mandates, they get labeled domestic terrorists,

[00:18:01] but those who burn down cities are mostly peaceful.

[00:18:05] Antifa, Black Lives Matter marches sparked the most expensive

[00:18:08] and prolonged domestic destruction in American history

[00:18:11] for four years from 2016 through 2020.

[00:18:15] Yet looting, rioting, arson, homicides,

[00:18:18] and Democrats were never asked in any serious way to condemn it.

[00:18:22] They don't get forced to play D&D, defend and disavow by the media.

[00:18:28] They're never asked, hey, do you think that your rhetoric,

[00:18:31] your fiery but mostly peaceful rhetoric may have inspired some of this destruction?

[00:18:38] Do you think maybe you've been giving permission

[00:18:40] to the people that are mentally on the edge to encourage them?

[00:18:48] Let me play a clip.

[00:18:51] Elizabeth Warren went on to MSNBC,

[00:18:55] being interviewed by another psychotic, Joy Reid,

[00:18:58] and she's asked about this lunatic Luigi.

[00:19:06] And, you know, what do we take away from this?

[00:19:10] And is there a larger conversation?

[00:19:13] Stop and think overall about the social contract.

[00:19:16] You know, part of the deal in how we've kept this democracy,

[00:19:22] this economy, this country,

[00:19:23] on a fairly steady path for more than 200 years,

[00:19:26] has been that those at the top pay a little more in taxes,

[00:19:30] are a little less rich than they otherwise might be,

[00:19:34] and everybody else at least gets a chance.

[00:19:37] And what happens when you turn this into

[00:19:41] the billionaires run it all,

[00:19:43] is they get the opportunity to squeeze every last penny.

[00:19:46] And look, we'll say it over and over.

[00:19:48] Violence is never the answer.

[00:19:49] This guy gets a trial who's allegedly killed the CEO of UnitedHealth.

[00:19:55] But you can only push people so far.

[00:19:57] And then they start to take matters into their own hands.

[00:20:01] Yeah.

[00:20:03] There was the but.

[00:20:06] Look, violence is never the answer.

[00:20:08] But you can only push people so far.

[00:20:11] That is creating a permission structure.

[00:20:15] That's what she just did there.

[00:20:17] Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you shouldn't do this thing.

[00:20:20] But I understand.

[00:20:24] None of this is to say that there is not right-wing violence.

[00:20:28] Of course there is.

[00:20:29] Of course there is.

[00:20:30] Right?

[00:20:31] What Arsani is simply saying is that we should acknowledge

[00:20:34] that a lot of our contemporary political violence

[00:20:41] emanates from the left.

[00:20:44] And he said that a lot of it is girded by the hard left progressive turn

[00:20:48] in America's politics.

[00:20:50] Right?

[00:20:52] I have made this point when talking about the J6 riots.

[00:20:56] is that you cannot look at that as a standalone incident.

[00:21:01] Because it was not.

[00:21:03] It was against a backdrop of four years of violent riots, protests, looting.

[00:21:13] Right?

[00:21:13] You had all of the Russia hoax, the collusion.

[00:21:17] Right?

[00:21:17] The weaponization of the DOJ.

[00:21:19] You had all of this stuff going on over four years.

[00:21:23] And what happens is when people see cities being allowed to get burned down,

[00:21:28] they see people being, you know, beaten and murdered in the streets

[00:21:33] for whatever political disagreement you may have,

[00:21:39] the permission structure exists.

[00:21:43] That's not to excuse the J6 rioters.

[00:21:46] People who engaged in violent behavior

[00:21:50] properly were charged and imprisoned for it

[00:21:54] if they engaged in the violent behavior.

[00:21:57] The ones who did not engage in violent behavior

[00:22:00] then also got incarcerated.

[00:22:03] And I would submit that is an injustice.

[00:22:05] See, this is the problem.

[00:22:07] When you start going, look,

[00:22:08] and a lot of this stuff goes back to the root issue

[00:22:10] which is that, you know, we are supposed to govern ourselves.

[00:22:14] That's what this experiment is supposed to be about.

[00:22:17] And if you,

[00:22:20] a society that cannot govern itself on an individual level

[00:22:24] then will require more and more laws

[00:22:27] and then enforcers of those laws.

[00:22:31] So what is the thing that keeps people governing themselves?

[00:22:36] It is the thing that is now being abandoned in America

[00:22:40] as it has been in many Western cultures

[00:22:43] and that's faith, religion.

[00:22:46] Right?

[00:22:47] That created structures to say

[00:22:48] you shouldn't do these things.

[00:22:50] That's not good behavior.

[00:22:51] And you see it also in a lack of manners and politeness.

[00:22:58] Like, that's self-governing.

[00:23:01] Because it's like, why would you just be, you know, mean to somebody

[00:23:04] and then if somebody else is being mean

[00:23:05] why would you celebrate the one that's being mean

[00:23:07] and that sort of thing?

[00:23:08] Why would you want to, you know, hold up

[00:23:11] and celebrate people for being nasty towards each other?

[00:23:18] You're going to need way more laws now.

[00:23:22] And you're not going to like it

[00:23:23] when the people that you disagree with on policy

[00:23:26] are in charge of enforcing laws.

[00:23:28] You're not going to like it.

[00:23:30] The other team gets a turn it back.

[00:23:32] You can message me on the Twitter machine as well

[00:23:35] at Pete Callender.

[00:23:35] Russ says,

[00:23:37] The left does love the violence.

[00:23:39] I've been trying to think of examples on the right

[00:23:42] but the only ones that come to mind

[00:23:44] are Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph.

[00:23:47] Every example I can think of

[00:23:49] is on the left or straight up mental illness

[00:23:52] influenced by leftist ideology.

[00:23:56] Right?

[00:23:56] That's the thing.

[00:23:57] I say this after all of these types of, you know,

[00:24:00] horrific shootings or murders

[00:24:03] which is logical, rational,

[00:24:05] sane people have a difficult time

[00:24:07] trying to understand the motives

[00:24:09] and we try to attach like,

[00:24:11] oh, well, okay, so they said this thing on Twitter

[00:24:13] or on Facebook,

[00:24:14] so therefore this is why they did it

[00:24:16] when usually they're just psychotic.

[00:24:21] They're insane.

[00:24:22] And we cannot,

[00:24:24] the sane mind cannot understand truly

[00:24:27] the motivations

[00:24:29] because it doesn't make any kind of logical sense.

[00:24:33] killing a CEO at UnitedHealthcare

[00:24:36] does what?

[00:24:37] To improve the outcomes for your mom.

[00:24:40] Like, seriously.

[00:24:42] It's just,

[00:24:43] it's an insane rationalization

[00:24:46] or what would approximate one

[00:24:48] in a broken mind.

[00:24:54] On the J6ers, he says,

[00:24:56] I have only paid superficial attention

[00:24:58] to the individual cases,

[00:24:59] but I've seen a lot about non-violent people

[00:25:01] and I don't recall much,

[00:25:03] if anything,

[00:25:04] about violent black block

[00:25:05] serious damage cases.

[00:25:07] Could be my own biases though.

[00:25:09] No, this was the thing.

[00:25:11] People witnessed

[00:25:13] Antifa black block violence

[00:25:15] for years.

[00:25:17] Black Lives Matter

[00:25:19] violence

[00:25:19] for years.

[00:25:21] That was the backdrop

[00:25:23] that we were all living

[00:25:24] in front of

[00:25:27] during the first

[00:25:28] Trump presidency.

[00:25:29] And it began

[00:25:30] on his inauguration day.

[00:25:34] Like, people think,

[00:25:35] oh, peaceful transfer of power.

[00:25:36] I remember what happened

[00:25:37] in Washington, D.C.

[00:25:40] on inauguration day.

[00:25:42] People set fire

[00:25:44] to a limo.

[00:25:45] There were, I mean,

[00:25:46] there were

[00:25:47] protesters,

[00:25:48] people were being blocked

[00:25:49] from getting to the inauguration.

[00:25:51] Like, this stuff

[00:25:52] persisted then

[00:25:53] for four years.

[00:25:58] The Hellion says

[00:26:01] in the early 1970s,

[00:26:07] yeah,

[00:26:07] in the early 1970s,

[00:26:08] there were over

[00:26:09] a thousand bombings

[00:26:10] in the U.S. by the left.

[00:26:11] Yeah, so that was the stat

[00:26:13] that I gave you

[00:26:13] from David Harsani's piece

[00:26:14] at the Washington Examiner.

[00:26:16] 2,500 bombings

[00:26:18] over a two-year period.

[00:26:22] I think, yeah,

[00:26:23] 1971 to 1972,

[00:26:26] 2,500 bombings

[00:26:27] by leftist groups.

[00:26:29] And some of them

[00:26:31] ended up teaching

[00:26:31] in colleges.

[00:26:34] Like,

[00:26:35] that's the price you pay,

[00:26:36] quote-unquote,

[00:26:37] is that you get

[00:26:38] a sweet,

[00:26:39] tenured gig

[00:26:40] teaching about justice?

[00:26:45] There's another element here

[00:26:47] and it is this

[00:26:47] disgusting,

[00:26:48] grotesque

[00:26:50] fawning

[00:26:51] over

[00:26:52] the lunatic Luigi.

[00:26:57] I don't understand

[00:26:58] this either.

[00:26:59] I do not understand

[00:27:00] this mindset

[00:27:01] of,

[00:27:02] oh gosh,

[00:27:03] like,

[00:27:03] look at that bad boy

[00:27:04] in his abs.

[00:27:05] I can fix him.

[00:27:06] Like,

[00:27:06] the guy murdered,

[00:27:07] cowardly murdered

[00:27:08] another man,

[00:27:09] a father of two,

[00:27:10] by the way,

[00:27:10] who had come up,

[00:27:11] like,

[00:27:12] his dad was a grain elevator.

[00:27:15] Um,

[00:27:16] his mom,

[00:27:16] I think,

[00:27:17] was like a secretary

[00:27:18] assembly,

[00:27:18] sorry,

[00:27:20] assistant.

[00:27:20] I don't,

[00:27:20] yeah,

[00:27:21] but like,

[00:27:21] these were not wealthy people.

[00:27:23] He was not a wealthy kid.

[00:27:25] He grew up

[00:27:26] as like a lower middle class,

[00:27:28] maybe middle class kid,

[00:27:30] and rose all the way up.

[00:27:32] And that's the one

[00:27:34] that's like,

[00:27:34] yeah,

[00:27:34] he deserved to die,

[00:27:36] that the leftists

[00:27:36] are screaming.

[00:27:37] Meanwhile,

[00:27:38] the kid,

[00:27:38] from the wealthy,

[00:27:39] privileged background,

[00:27:40] who did the murder,

[00:27:42] allegedly,

[00:27:42] right,

[00:27:43] he's the one

[00:27:44] that all the chicks are now,

[00:27:45] oh my gosh,

[00:27:45] he's so adorable.

[00:27:47] All right,

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