Leftist cable host beclowns herself in attempted takedown of House Speaker | Hour 1
The Pete Kaliner ShowMay 19, 202600:32:3522.42 MB

Leftist cable host beclowns herself in attempted takedown of House Speaker | Hour 1

This episode is presented by Create A VideoA host on MSNOW (formerly MSNBC) teed up a question to one of her guests in an attempt to lead him to a "Christian Nationalist" hot take, but ended up showing her utter ignorance about the Declaration of Independence. Apparently, Katy Tur doesn't know that the Declaration states we are endowed by our Creator with unalienable rights. That those rights flow from God, not government. But if she's worried about rhetoric influencing people to behave badly, there are a bunch of examples in the news. Like the apologia from the Left as articulated by the Luigi Mangioni fangirls.

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What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, I daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, go to thepekclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free, write to your smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for your support. All righty, so over the weekend there was a big event up in Washington, DC. It was called Rededicate to fifty So well, I mean, if you listen to like MSNBC, well formerly known as MSNBC, the channel formerly known as MSNBC, but all the personnel is basically the same. It's now called mis now. And this was like obviously a Christian nationalist rally because you know, they were Republicans. They love America. They're celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary or birthday is a birthday, I guess it's a birthday. Of American independence. And they also happened to be Christians, yes, like all the Founding fathers. Except for Tom his pain so yes. So they had this big event, and the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, made some comments, gave a prayer. You can see the prayer. His press office released a transcript of it. And he led thousands that had gathered on the National Mall in a prayer of rededication, and, according to his press shop, acknowledged God's evidence over the past two hundred and fifty years and seeking his blessing for the next two hundred and fifty. Yeah, hang on, obviously bad, obviously bad. Here's what he said. Quote. Now, as we approach the two hundred fiftieth anniversary of American Independence, we face a new set of challenges, in a new era. In recent years, we've seen sinister ideologies, so confusion and discord among our people. We have witnessed attacks on our history, on our heroes, and on the cherished moral and spiritual identity of this great nation. These voices insist to the young and impressionable that our story, the American story, is one of oppression and hypocrisy and failure, and that this story can only be understood through the lens of our sins. But Father, we reject that. We rebuke it in your name. Those voices have sought to distort the self evident truth that we know so well, and that our founders boldly proclaim in the Declaration that our rights do not derive from the government. They come from you, our Creator and heavenly Father. End quote. Okay, so obviously Christian nationalism going on here, a lot of the Christian nationalism happening with that. So over on the miz Now channel, there is a there's a host named Katie tour who just by way of background information, it's my understanding that she was in like a three year relationship with Keith Oberman. So you know, she's, yeah, she doesn't have the she's not the best judge of character here or or of making good decisions. But anyway, she as the host. She's got a couple of guests john right, So they're commenting and they're, you know, they're they're talking about how terrible the praying is and all of this. And she has a guy named Mickay Coppins who is a he's a writer, he's been around for a while but he's now a contributor on miss Now. And she found this comment of Mike Johnson to be problematic, and so she so She teas up the question to Mickay Coppins in one of the most ignorant questions that I have ever seen or heard on miss now, which is saying something. I mean, they've got Lawrence O'Donnell and Rachel maddow right. So here's her question, and the answer is no better. But here's the question. What about this passage from Mike Johnson declaring that our rights do not derive from government, they come from You, our Creator and heavenly Father. Is this him putting God over the Declaration of Independence? Well, I guess to answer the question, yes, I believe Mike Johnson would say that God is over the Declaration of Independence or above the Declaration of Independence, because and I don't want to speak for the speaker. I mean, he is, after all the speaker. But I would believe that he would say something along the lines of God is above all all things. Right. So that's the first point. The second point. Is that I read to you as quote he literally says that our founders boldly proclaim in the declaration. So the quote that he is delivering is from the Declaration of Independence. The declaration it says we hold these truths to be self evident. In other words, obvious, obvious, self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That was actually changed they were debating whether it should be property anyway. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it. YadA, YadA, YadA. But that's the point. We are endowed by our creator with unalienable rights, meaning you cannot take them away. They are yours because they are from God. And so no, he's not putting God above the Declaration of Independence, although I would think he would say that God is above the Declaration of Independence. But he's quoting the Declaration of Independence. He's quoting it. And then her guest, I think, knows that this line is from the Declaration of Independence, and it is actually at the core of the American project. That's what makes us exceptional. We were the ones to put this down in writing. Our founders put this all down in writing and laid out the philosophical underpinning for why we get to govern ourselves. So I think Mickay Coppins knows this, so he tries to kind of pivot. Okay, well, you know, I actually think that idea is not wholly uncommon. I mean, the idea that we have certain inalienable rights that come from God can be read in a fairly benign way, which is basically that we have in eight human rights that our constitution and our government, our democratic government, are meant to codify right. That idea is not right. It's literally as old as our founding. It's part of why we were founded the way we were founded. Okay, but now he's going to pivot totally abnormal. I think that the thing that you might alarm some people is some of the rhetoric that we heard at this rally that we are in a spiritual battle right, that the forces of good and evil are at work here, and that partisan politics is injected directly into the spiritual, biblical rhetoric. We have heard that for the last couple of years. It's been ratcheted up more and more, especially since Donald Trump lost in twenty twenty, and it can lead to some pretty dangerous places if it's not. KEPTISHU Oh, spocastic terrorism. Wait wait is this back? Is this back on the menu? Spocastic terrorist is back on the menu? You see. The whole point of this conversation that they were having on mis now was about the Christian nationalism, right, and so says, oh, this idea that we're in a spiritual battle. Newsflash, Mackay Coppins. Christians do believe in the concepts of good and evil. There are a lot of Christians in America. I believe Jews also believe in the concepts of good and evil. I believe Muslims also believe. Yeah, okay, well, all right, well let's just set that one aside for a second. All I'm saying is that this is not new and your start date of twenty twenty. It wasn't about Donald Trump's electoral loss. There was some other things going on at the time, you remember, I do You know? Stories are powerful. 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Right, So this is at first I thought, oh, this is another example of leftist pretending not to understand something in order to just drag out a conversation, so you don't arrive at any kind of meaningful. Discussion or conclusions. Right, But I really, I really do believe that like there is some. Paranoia. There's a paranoia here, I guess, you know, so. Steeped in the separation of Church and State, right, which was a letter to the Danbury Baptists. It wasn't from Thomas Jefferson. It's not actually in the constitutions, not actually in the Declaration of Independence. States had official state religions. It was that Congress could not impose a national religion because they came from the old world, where that sort of thing was normal. The king and the Church were the same, so they were like, we don't want that, we don't want the force of government at a national level imposing religious edicts down onto people of different faiths. And there were a lot of people at different faiths at the Constitutional Convention, so they all agreed, Hey, I won't tell you how to govern your state, and you don't tell me how to govern mine. Federalism, right, that's the idea. But regarding this comment from McKay Coppins, who responded that, well, actually, the use of you know, inalienable rights endowed by our creator, with these unalienable rights like this is not abnormal. No, it's not abnormal. In fact, it's quite normal. Was this was the norm, This is what was taught in schools when you learn about the Declaration of Independence. I can only assume it has not been a part of the curriculum for a while. I don't know. But he also says that, oh, this really sort of amped up, like this kind of rhetoric, that we're in a spiritual battle, that this really started amping up after Trump lost in twenty twenty. Well, do you remember what else was going on in twenty twenty. You had riots, right, and you had the pandemic, and you had government making all sorts of rules restricting people's freedoms, meanwhile allowing the rioters to run riot right. You also had the this was peak woke, where by the way, woke is not dead. It's you know, it's hibernating. It's hiding right now. It'll come back as soon as the left gets power. And that's really what this is is a battle between a rising Marxist contingent on both the left and the right. I've talked about the horseshoe right, the trans right, I call them right. These are people that are, for whatever motivations they have and podcast to stand right. These influencers, whatever it is that they are working on, whether they're just you know, chasing clicks and views and audience capture, or they're trying to build some sort of political project and cleave away a part of the Maga movement. I've been telling you this for a year, that there are now going to be these fights as people try to gain control over what is the MAGA coalition, the MAGA voters, and so people are making these kinds of moves and saying these sorts of things in order to get you know, a chunk of this of this population that's just my read on it. You are free to differ. But there was also this rise of peak woke. She her in the bio, he him right, all of that stuff, And why were we doing that? I mean, I wasn't doing it. I was actually like deleting any email that came from anybody that had that in their bio. I would like, Okay, you're stupid, You're out. So why why was all that happening? This was the normalization was occurring of trans issues. And if you do you think that people don't see some level of evil in that, you're kidding yourself. You're kidding yourself. I mean what the state of California just ran a bill to make certain kinds of sex acts with kids legal. Like, are you gonna tell me that's not evil? It's kind of hard for me not to see it in a spiritual battle context when something as obviously evil as that is being pitched and run through legislative bodies and supported by a not small portion of the public. All right, So I'm gonna rewrack this clip. I'm gonna rewrack the clip because I want to pivot off of something that McKay coppins says at the end of his answer. So I'm gonna play it again. We can all laugh again at Katie tour from mis Now we can laugh also at McKay coppins a little bit less so, but Katie at her uninformed, ignorant question. But listen to the last part of what McKay coppins says at the end here, what about. This passage from Mike Johnson declaring that our rights do not derive from government, They come from you, our creator and heavenly Father. Is this him putting God over the declaration of Independence? It's okay, Well, you know, I actually think that that idea is not wholly uncommon. I mean, the idea that we have certain inalienable rights that come from God can be read in a fairly benign way, which is basically that we have innate human rights that our constitution and our government, our democratic government, are meant to codify. Right. That idea is not totally abnormal. I think that the thing that you know, might alarm some people is some of the rhetoric that we heard at this rally, that we are in a spiritual battle, all right, that the forces of good and evil are at work here, and that partisan politics is injected directly into the spiritual biblical rhetoric. We have heard that for the last couple of years. It's been ratcheted up more and more, especially since Donald Trump lost in twenty twenty. And it can lead to some pretty dangerous places if it's not captain check. So it can lead to some dangerous places if not kept in check. What language about this being a spiritual battle between good and evil, which a lot of people recognize. We are always in a spiritual battle at the personal level, Yes, at a societal level and at an international level. Right that there are forces for good and there are forces for evil. For example, a force for evil, I would submit North Korea obvious example force for evil. Right, I mean like, I'm not aware of a single redeeming thing about that government and the person and the people who lead it. Right, that is a force for evil. That does not mean that all you know, well, if I'm my government's not evil, then it must be good. No. Governments are made up of people. People make bad decisions. You have people that behave in a bad way. Right, all the standard disclaimers. But note he's trying to position this. He's like, oh, some may be concerned in other words, let me blow the dog whistle for the miz Now audience. You need to be concerned, You need to be afraid, be very afraid that Republicans are talking about Christianity, God, spiritual warfare, good versus evil, because that can lead to a dangerous place if not kept in check. So this is the stochastic terrorism allegation, where your comments, your rhetoric, your speeches, your language. As a person on the right, you are going to inspire violence. You are going to inspire bad people to do bad things thinking that they are the good ones. Now, that hasn't happened as far as I know, but if it does happen, we will definitely like we're on the lookout for any like handwaving that looks. Like a seguile sign. We're going to ignore the Nazi tattoo, by the way, But if you have an okay, if you make an okay symbol with your hand playing the circle game or something in a photograph, that's it. You're You're out right, all of a sudden, the stochastic terrorism is back. Now. I might offer some more contemporary examples, For example, the Luigi Mangioni fan club. Yeah, these are called the Mangionistas, that's what they call themselves. And there's always been a certain population that is attracted to murderous psychopaths. I mean, Charles Manson had women writing to him in prison. Ted Bundy did as well, right like, there are I don't know what it is that's so attractive about psychopaths, but there were women who wanted to throw themselves at these murderous thugs. So Luigi Mangioni, the guy who murdered the CEO of United Healthcare, Brian Thompson, he's he was in court yesterday. There was a court hearing about some of the evidence, and I'm going to go into some of that too. However, there were a couple. Of these Mangionistas that were quote covering the trial. They got press credentials. How do you get you're running a you're running a fanboy club or fangirl club. Blog or Instagram account. How exactly do you get credentialed to cover a murder trial of the guy that you're in love with, the guy that you're defending. How do you get press credentials? Manhattan, that's where the trial is, and who hands out the press credentials for the Manhattan court House. Well, that would be the Mayor's office. Yes, the Mayor of New York City, Zorn Mamdani. His office has relaxed the press credentialing process, and so these man Jionistas now get to go to the courtroom and quote cover the trial. And when they are done inside the courtroom, then they come out and they hold a press conference, like an impromptu press conference kind of a thing on the sidewalk out in front of the courthouse. Which call me crazy, but I was a reporter for a decade, covered a lot of press conferences. I never, actually, I never saw reporters doing the press conference. I didn't. Yeah, I've actually never I've never seen a reporter hold a press conference after a news event that they're covering. You know, Like I guess if a reporter gets in trouble or something and they have to do a press conference, then okay, that's a different story. But these women were just out there like holding an impromptu press conference. Well what did they have to say? Ah, very good question. I hope I've cleaned this up enough. The audio is I mean, you got a lot of street noise. It's outside in you know, Manhattan, So I tried to clean up the audio. His children are better off without thinking, he'll learn about me like their dad enjoyed. Was that? What was that? I didn't get that re said. I'm standing on this Brian Thompson. I don't give millions of America liked it. Hmm. I'm saying, bleep, Brian Thompson. I don't give a flying bleep that he died. That was Ashley Rojas. You heard Lena Weiss brought say there at the beginning that Thompson's children are quote better off without him, but enjoy that blood money kids. This is what these women said. And that's not all I've got more. I got this message from Rodney who says evil will never announce its presence. I thought I had one more here. Okay, let me go over and talk to Elana. Welcome to the show, Hi, Peter, thank you for taking my call. Certainly I want to comment about the national mode that the Christian nationality you had on Sunday, and it's really annoying and to me to hear that people really upset about this. But when Islamic can come and you know, prayer, pray, and you know, closing the street, go and pray right in front of the church and they have no comment about this. And it's not evil. But this country, this country, the Beautiful America, is a Christian nation, and we have a freedom of you know, religion, and everybody can tructice as long as they don't thread your life. And the beautiful about our founding fathers that they separate state and religion because they saw what all these sick Europe the old world was doing to the people, and they gave us a lot of freedom and took the church out because the church didn't create us, didn't give us rights. Is God gave us the right and we have to practice these rights and stick. Europe only have two classes, rich and poor, and that's what they want to go back to, rich and poor. The Beautiful America and the Founding Fathers they create the middle class that was never exist. So the middle class is you work, you earn, you progress and you will be a part of whatever you want. In the old world, you were a peasant, you stay a peasant. You were a king, you stay a king, and you never progress anywhere. This evil really fascist left to whatever they are. They have no religions, they have no way values, and they just evil and evil. We have to call it because it comes and lifts his head every fifty sixty, seventy years, and we have to recognize it and then luminaze it. Elan, I appreciate the call. Thank you, You're welcome, all right, Take. Care, take care. Yeah, I tend to agree. Leftism is rooted in envy, one of these seven deadly sins. No, that's what the entire ideology is about. Envy. And I mentioned this the other day, but it's this. It's the standard track record of all communists experiments. When tried, it leads to death and destruction because you have to force people to give up the stuff and to give up their money and to work hard while somebody else loafs right, And eventually people stop wanting to work hard because they don't get to keep anything, because they're not enjoying their inalienable right to the pursuit of happiness right. They can't they can't accumulate property. So that's why you always have to resort to force. That's evil. It's an evil ideology. So like the uh so, when I see the Marxists palling up with the Islamists, makes sense. There's a long history there going back one hundred years. So no, it's not surprising the her comment there about the Islamists that are you know Muslims that are taking over streets. You know, that's they don't do that in their own countries. They were like at forty five Muslim countries. They have virtually no you know, populations that are non Muslim to speak of, and they don't do that in their countries. They in fact, some of their countries they have they have rules based on Islamic teachings that you're not supposed to do that. So why do they do it in Western countries. It's a it's a show of domination. It's a transgressive thing. Much like leftists employee right storming buildings, preventing speech, shouting down speakers, that kind of thing, same kind of it's the same kind of thing. It's a transgressive approach I have I've come across I'm a little off topic here, but I came across an idea the other day and the challenge that we have in Western free societies when it comes to battle these kinds of ideologies, particularly when it comes to religion, because we do have the freedom of religion, right, So how do you balance that with a religion that comes in and says we will take over and implement religious law in your land once we get enough voting power, right, because that is the play the Muslim Brotherhood. They've documented all of this, they like, this is the plan. So one idea, and I've been kind of thinking about it and like weighing the pros and cons and all that. If you are a religion, if you're let me say, if your religion does not allow people to leave it, right, if you're not allowed apostasy to leave a religion, then that is no longer a religion. That's a cult, right, Like, and I kind of feel like that might be a way to force some sort of acceptance that like, no, you are not going to set up you know, parallel judicial systems and such and like whatever, Like if you do not allow people to leave their religion, then that's not really a religion. That's that's a tyranny. I don't know. So, like, like I said, there are like pros and cons to this idea, because it's a it's a question that the UK is grappling with right now to the extent that their leaders allow them to. But yeah, it's like freedom of religion, but that also means that you are you must be free to leave it. And if leaving the religion. Then calls for you know, death warrants out on you, your family or whatever, then I I'm feeling like that's probably beyond something that the West should accept. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. 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