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Yeah, I think you validated the research of the Bell curve. The book. Yeah, would you care to elaborate that? Like what he's on the one side of the he's on the lower side of the bell curve. He has low IQ. Yeah, say that, all right, thank you. Alex. David is next. Hello David, welcome to the show. How you doing, Pete? Hey, I'm good. What's up? Hey? I just I have a prediction for you. Okay, this will get us off the Tony conversation. But now you haven't seen the text line yet, brother, you have not seen the text line yet. Well, I'm just thinking that let's let's gift hypothetically my prediction will come at the end. But hypothetically, let's just say that, you know, the straits open up and Trump is successful in getting the Iran nuclear dust destroyed and gas prices go down right before the midterm election, and so his popularity goes up. I predicted the Democrats, well, will accuse him of colluding with Iran to influence the midterm elections. Oh oh, that's all. This was all just a setup. Right that they were actually the whole time in Cohutes with the orange hitler. Yep, they they they they were bombed and everything, just because the timing needed to help him in the election. Oh oh, hang on a second. As long as we're down this theoretical path. How about they say that we never actually even bombed Iran. There was no Yeah, yeah, that there was That was all Ai. There was no bombing at all. Actually, it was all just it was all just a false flag or something. I like it. I think, I think that's a possibility. But I'll guarantee you if things go right and gas prices. Come down because of it, and it happens before. The election, you'll hear at least a few Democrats accuse him of doing this all for the election results. That's you know, there's no doubt in my mind, you'll hear that. Yeah, Because like I'm trying to think, Yes, Sir David, I appreciate the call. It's interesting theory because if it were to work out as David hypothesizes, what is the response, like, what is the what what then becomes the Democrats narrative going into the election? Yeah, And I'm like, I'm just thinking of this right now. I generally don't go down these paths of you know, predictions and that sort of stuff, because like it's it's impossible to know the future. Obviously, if I knew that, I would probably already have won many lotteries. But like what else, Like, what would you what could you say? I guess that we just shouldn't have done it, and we left him in I mean, yeah, I guess the argument will be even if things rebound, like David hypothesizes, I guess you get to a point where you would have to say, well, we never should have done it in the first place. It was wrong to do it, and he lied, he took us into a war, and he said he was the anti war candidate, and all like, maybe that that's about but that would be about it. And if the IRGC, the Iranian regime remains in place in power, then they will say like, well, then what was it all for? And of course the answer would be, well, if we get the nuclear dust, that's what that was for. And their nuclear program is utterly destroyed, which had to be done because if a Democrat wins the White House again, I have no doubt that Iran will start back up. So you have to take all of that stuff offline to prevent not just Iran from pursuing it, but Democrats allowing Iran to pursue it. All right, let me go to the text line here and try to get through. Oh my gosh, thirty three on read texts Okay Scott, he says, Tony seriously needs to stay off the leftist reddit hate Trump forums because that's the stupidity I see whenever I log on there. It's also where I get a lot of my stupid, incorrect information from. It's good you got to get your news from multiple sources, you know. Seven oh four. Member says by Tony a one way ticket to China. Yeah, that's the thing. Tony would never move to China as much as he said, probably because he knew he was cornered into saying it, but he would never say He would never actually pick up and move to the place that he says is superior to here. He won't do that because deep down he knows that what he is saying is stupid. It's a lie. China is not a better place to live than America, and Tony knows that. But he just wants us all to know that he hates Donald Trump. And we all got the message, Tony, we all understand you hate Donald Trump. And what the what he was only successful at proving was that he cannot view any issue without viewing it through the lens of Donald Trump. And this is what I urge people not to do. Do not look at all of these issues, any current event, any happening in the world. Don't view everything through the prism of Trump, even stories that Trump is involved in. I mean, yes, it's helpful to you know, understand the different angles. But if your lens is only fixed at I hate Trump, that's how you end up on the road to dumbassary people that Tony, and he's way down that path. Kenny says, God bless you. Pete. Listening to Tony makes me want to drive my tractor trailer off a bridge. Uh, he's an idiot. Tell him to move to the communist entry as fast as he can. What a nut job. Wade says, plays hang the phone and move on. Your caller is an absolute moron. Time to move on to competent people who know what they are talking about. Well, here's the other thing too. I allow Tony as much time as I did because I want to just reinforce the idea that our K twelve education system has failed multiple generations of people, and Tony's vote counts as much as yours. Okay, Sandra says, Pete. You can't fix stupid, and you can't change the mind of narrow minded, stupid people. The commie lover needs a one way ticket to China. Frank says, don't encourage stupidity. I'm not encouraging it. I am exposing it. Charles says, this is the best comedy skit I have heard in a long time. Tony is the perfect example of TDS. What an uninformed buffoon. How many different names does he use when he calls the station. I think he always uses Tony. There are two different Tonys, but they say the same things. Pete, you could have a more intelligent conversation with any random homeless person muttering to himself on a street corner in Charlotte than with that idiot Tony. Okay, so people aren't digging Tony very much, Pete. We already know that Tony is a crazed Democrat and he loves Kamala. We know that he voted for her. We know, oh sorry, we know that he vote for her next cycle. Don't put him on anymore, please, says Doug. No. Look, if people call into the station and they want to disagree with me, I put him on the air. In fact, I take them first. I welcome those debates. And I do that because at some point, fingers crossed, we end up with somebody who can actually articulate a rational, logical argument for the left. Now, I've been a host for about thirteen years now or so, and I've yet to find one. But this is my white whale here people, Okay, I am waiting for the day when somebody is able to articulate a cogent logical argument for one of these positions. Grumpy Major says, thanks for another fifteen minutes of lunacy known as Tony. Somebody please tell Tony that it's medication time. M seven oh four number, says your caller. Tony's an exercise in complete ignorance. So entertaining, Well, it is too like there is that? Okay, it is entertaining. Are you not entertained? Is that not why you're here? You know? Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. 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Visit creative video dot com from the text line sifting through all of the texts, most of them are not very nice to Tony. Tony was the caller in the last hour who said Iran should have a nuke, who said China is a better country than America, And when I asked why, he said, because of their president, the Kami dictator. He would very much prefer to live there, but he won't go live there. Brian says, no way, Tony, is this dumb? I feel he's trying to punk you. Well, I. Think both of those things can be true, Brian. I think I think well, and I don't know if he's dumb. I just he's he's ignorant. And I'm not saying that as like a pejorative, as as a slur. I'm saying it because he literally is not aware of the information. And so then I said he was willfully ignorant because when he would quote ask a question and I would then provide him the answer, he would attempt to either interrupt the answer or he would then pivot to some other question. Right, So he doesn't want to be informed. He has a certain belief and anything and that. And I think what you heard there also was just a smidge of cognitive dissonance. His brain was like unable to process the information provided to him because it was counter to what he already believes, and he is unwilling to entertain it, and so it creates this discombobulation in the brain. Jennifer says, you get some crazy callers. Uh, but I am actually stunned at that level of ignorance. You are clearly using words that Tony doesn't understand. I thought, I don't know I thought I was. Joseph says, I want Iran to have a nuclear weapon if they promised to nuke Tony uh Corey in Sparta. I think the og Tony could give this last Tony some education. Poor guy, Nate says, Pete, well done dealing with Tony. I applaud your restraint. His calls aren't quite entertaining. The only thing worse than a troll is a severely ignorant one. Yeah, Dwayne says, I don't know how you do it, Pete. However, this is what scares me. I actually have friends who are academically highly educated who are spouting some of this same garbage. It seriously scares the crap out of me. Love your show, Yeah, and that's the other reason why I let people come on to make those arguments, because you're going to hear. I mean, maybe Tony wasn't the best ambassador of the position. Okay, let's just let's just call it as it is here that Tony probably wasn't able to articulate the argument and the defense of his assertions as well as somebody else might. Okay, but at the core of it, it's the same black pill nihilism, anti Western argument. It is at the core of what he's saying. I mean, think about what he was trying to articulate by when he was like, oh, well, then who says they shouldn't have nukes? And I said, we do. Why is it because we're the superpower? And then he says, no, we're not. Does that sound like somebody else maybe from the horseshoe right, Yeah, that this is the multipolarity argument. Now. I don't know if Tony has ever heard of this, but that's the Alexander Dugan school of thought, that we need to move from the bipolar world, which was US versus Soviet Union, and then it was just a unipolar world where we're the superpower. And that's been the case since like ninety one ninety two, and now he wants to make room for multipolarity, which is China as the superpower, as the global hedgebod right, that they will be exerting their influence across the globe. That sounds a lot like the people who are fans of Duganism. You have the rise of Russia that can swallow up all of the European area, the rise of the Muslim world they can swallow up a bunch of areas right, multipolarity, Iran, Russia, China, And what does that mean. It means taking America down a bunch of pegs. That's at the core of what Tony was saying. Now, other people can dress it up with academic studies, sounding words and arguments and such, but at the core of it, it's the same argument. And that's why it's called the horseshoe right horseshoe left, because at some point they come all the way back around and the people on the quote right or the woke right, or the tran whatever you want to call them. And yes, I'm talking about the Megan Kelly's, the Nick Filuentes, the Candice Olans, the Tucker Carlson's, like that wing that has gone all the way towards this position of America needs to be taken down. We need to make room to let other superpowers emerge, to let other countries rise, so then they can exert their influence over the rest of the world. And by the way, the same people will say that that somehow creates a stability, when in fact it does not. It produces the exact opposite. That's actually been really the history of the world nine to eight zero number says there's so much blind, rage infested ignorant hate for the Orange Man and the Jews, it's unreal. I don't know how you do it, keeping up with the stupids out there, but keeping up the good work, dude, it's eating them up. Yeah. If somebody will. By Tony an airplane ticket to China, I will drive him to the airport. Kristen says, maybe if we start putting people's pictures up as they're spewing their ridiculousness on the radio, so people would know who they are, they wouldn't talk so foolishly. Now. I don't think that would work, Kristen, because social media. We are the original social media here. Kamala went through two billion dollars and was twenty million dollars in debt, says David. When Tony said that that we don't have free and fair elections, if Jane Fondas Party would stop hating Trump more than they love the country, Trump would be freed up to finish the job, says tim Otao. Seven oh four number says uh oh, hang on a second, I got no sorry. Steve says, I saw that detergent add from China, And if I didn't know better, I'd have thought it was a commercial during an airing of Blazing Saddles. Very racisty commercial in China, very racisty. But people, see, that's the thing when every when, when your worldview is centered on the idea that America is the worst country, it doesn't even come across your radar that other cultures, other societies, other countries, other people might be as bad or worse than America or Americans of any time period. Let me jump over to the phones and chat with Tim. Hello. Tim, Hey, Hey you hear me? Yes, sir? Can you hear me? Yes, sir? Okay, and we are very good to go. To go ahead and start talking about something. I mean, that's generally how it starts, yes, sir, it's a yeah, so if you yeah, okay? Perfect. So you know, I was just looking at some stuff, you know, and something struct me on face book, and I'm like sixty five. I listened to the Morning Show and everybody else, and I just enjoy all of your shows. But it's just, uh, I don't know, maybe it's just me, but it seems like nobody wants to invest in anything anymore because everybody starts crying about you know, fuel price is going up this way or that way. But they it's just is everybody just think freedom is free, and you know, I'm trying to figure out, you know, there's a cost involved in stopping a nation that is nothing but terrorists and they've destroyed so many people through time, and I'm just trying to figure out, why have we just become such a small brat syndrome in America, which is the greatest country in the world in my opinion. But it's just like everybody thinks when we it starts pinching your pocket, but just a little bit. You know, everything costs, you know what I'm saying, if you invest in something at costs to get any return, and it's like, I think we're in a great position my elf. And that's just kind of where I'm at. You know, I just feel like everybody's they're trying to I'm not a Trump trump asite or anything like that, you know what I'm saying. But then when they start saying, well, gas was this much when Biden was it was two seventy a gallon, and. That was also like five five twenty a gallon as well. Exactly, you know, and that's that they don't see the other part of it. When he left leadership, it was this much, but but they didn't see that he also entered us into billions upon trillions of extra debt in our country. And you know pretty much brain did. Well, yes, I mean sorry, so okay, so you brought up a couple of different things here. So to answer your question, are we that spoiled of a nation? Yes, we have a population that does not want to suffer any kind of obstacles. Not everybody, but by and large, right, people complain, and they complain most about things that affect them personally. Just go to your neighborhood Facebook group, go to your HOA meetings, right, and everybody complains about the cost as it directly impacts them. And I understand that. I mean, I don't like paying higher gas prices either. However, like when you zoom out, it's like, okay, well, what is the cost benefit analysis at a grander scale? Right when you zoom out and people don't want to do that, you also have the infiltration into the American population of outside forces that very much want to demoralize and destabilize and divide Americans, and so to them and I'm talking about Russia, Iran, China. They don't care about the issue. The issue is irrelevant. They will fund both sides of a divisive issue in order to widen the divide. And Russia did this on the Black Lives Matter stuff. They were funding they were funding both camps there and we know this. So there's that you have the outside agitators, you also have homegrown people who on the political left and they see this as a way to get back into power, right, so they will amplify the negative and they will, you know, make those appeals to people's pocketbooks, and they know very well that it could cost Republicans at the ballot box, right, because it costs them at the ballot box. I mean Joe Biden slash Kamala Harris. They had such a terrible economy and the prices and inflation went through the roof and it, you know, the Bidenomics thing cost her in large part the election. Things that people did not want more of that, right, And then you have people that are sort of on the right or are on the right that are worried about the gas prices and the economic toll because it means that they could lose political power in the mid terms, and so they want this to end so this way that they can you know, be in a better position to win election. Right, So you have a whole different Yeah, I mean, you've got. Various groups of people that are that are amplifying the doomerism right, and then of course layer into all of that Donald Trump right that people cannot they can't view the issue outside of it. I'm not a Trump a site. Yeah, yeah, No, I know through a year. I went through a year with my kids where I was their thirties, in their thirties, and two of them won't even talk to me because I supported Trump in the first administration. But then after they saw what, you know, some of the things that happened in the second administration, and now it's back at this they're like, you know, so they're like, it's just don't I don't understand. Where do we become such full brats because Americans have always and me myself, I've always worked for everything I've gotten in my life. Nobody's given me anything. And where do we come to a place to where everything has to be right at our fingertips all the time. And that's kind of you know, where I wanted to leave. You can elaborate more. Yeah, all right, yeah, Tim, I appreciate the call. I think the I mean this is. Let me give you the analogy of helicopter parents versus bulldozer parents. Same thing has happened in the society when it comes to parenting. Right. First, excuse me. When I was grown up and even younger or older generations that came before me, there was a thing called benign neglect. Right in gen X, we were the latch key kids, right, so we would have the keys to the house after. We got home from school and we would be on our own and after us. Then came the helicopter parents, where you had parents that were constantly, you know, hovering above the kids, hovering above you. You know, they would like a parent never came to my classroom. If a parent came to my classroom at any level K through college, right, somebody was in some serious trouble or somebody died, right, like nobody, no parents came to the classrooms. And then I started reading and hearing about parents that would, you know, go to their kids classrooms and you know, help out with the class or whatever. And that was sort of the helicopter parents. That has persisted. But now there's a thing called the bulldozer parents, and these are the parents who. Clear the way. They eliminate any challenge, any obstacle. Jonathan Hyatt has written about this as well, talking about the value of free play for kids to just like open the door, let them go out and figure it out. Right. It's good for the kid to be bored during summer break because the kid will figure out with his friends what to do, right, and that unstructured free time where they get to play on their own, they get to because that teaches them how to interact with people. You're not always going to get to play the game you want to play right. There's a give and take in all personal relationships and such. But when you have bulldozer parents coming in and any kind of challenge, the parent takes care of it. I remember reading a story from some parents who were talking about they had their young son, I want to say, probably like ten or eleven something like that, make them dinner once a week, and they acknowledged, like the first few weeks it was pretty awful, right, Like the food was not good, and they could have just said that's it, you don't cook anymore. But they didn't. They stuck with it. The kid got better. Now the kid is more self sufficient, right, Because the part of that is we hear stories about adulting classes in college right where it teaches nineteen year olds basic things like you know how to change a tire, how to take your niece to the amusement park, some of the examples of the adulting class. Right. So you don't learn because it's through those experiences that you learn resiliency and every challenge that comes up in your way does not send you into a meltdown. And I think we have a lot of people in our society now that that have grown up in that kind of environment and they don't have resiliency and so anything if they can't get their avocado toast for you know, two dollars delivered right to their door. We talked about this a couple of days ago with the door dash culture, you know, complaining that they have no money, but then they're ordering door dash once a day, and it's like, guys, that's not smart. Right. Any kind of challenge, any kind of issue that is presented, they have no resiliency against. And I think that is part of this as well. All of these things can be true at the same time. A message from Bain. He says, he you once said a former station manager advised you to always take the layup. He didn't say always, is it. Sometimes sometimes just take the layup when you're deciding on what topics to do and that sort of thing when you're building your show in your prep period, you know, and sometimes people think, oh, that's just too. Easy of a topic. And his name, his name is Bill White, and he was like, sometimes just take the layup, and yes, the easy shot. Bain says, Well, Tony fed you the ball, you dribbled and scored. Nice job, right. Beth's favorite Russ on the text line says, was having a pretty good day right up until you reminded us all that Tony's vote counts the same as mine. That's sorry about that. Regarding Tony punking you, I do sometimes wonder if it's like asking the teacher a bunch of random questions to get off topic and then not have to do as much work. Dude, I had a professor in college at Winthrop and the mass Department. He was a former CBS radio war correspondent in Vietnam, and so all we had to do whenever he was doing some lesson, and all we would do is be like, can you give us a real world example of this? And within seconds your knee deep in rice patties and the rest of the rest of the instructional time is blown out. Doug asks, if there's extra compensation for taking a call from Tony and how long the call lasts, you definitely deserve hazard pay. There is not. There is not. Jeff says, I don't recall Gus ever being under three dollars a gallon during Biden's term, other than the first couple of months after Trump handed him prices around two twenty, which he quickly destroyed on purpose, starting with brooming the Excel pipeline and domestic production. Jim says, to answer your caller's question about how the US became so soft, this is the famous quote. Hard times creates strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. It's a circle. No, okay. Yes. A helicopter parent is not one who comes to the classroom to help out with special events or something. A helicopter parent is the one who hovers over their kid and doesn't let them do anything unless they are able to watch them and make sure they're okay. Yes, that's what I meant. I said. I never even saw parents come into the class ever, even to help out with anything. Ever, the only time a parent I ever saw in the school was like for the the Arts and Crafts fair, you know, Tom, and rock Hill says, not trying to be vague here, However, could you possibly explain or do you know the significance of when pressed about gas prices, the President states that we have so much oil, where does that fit into Iran not having nukes and gas prices being high right now? Hope you understand. Yes, I get this question all the time. And the oil market is an international market. It is traded based on futures. Right, So you're paying the gas stations are paying to fill up the next round of supply. Right. They're not paying for the gas that's already in the ground in their tanks. They're paying for the next fill up. Right. So you go to the markets then to say, okay, well what's gas going to cost, what's the you know, what is the supply of oil right now and what's happening and so it's all speculative, right, So people are making guesses based on what's happening right now and what is reasonably foreseeable in the near future, and then they make purchases and that drives up prices or drives down prices, right, and then you have to factor into that the FICCE, the price fixing cartel called OPEK, where Saudi Arabia will limit production as soon as oil gets down around eighty dollars a barrel. They don't want it going lower. So one of the good. Things that has come out of all of this is that the UAE bailed on OPEK. They left OPEK because they want to increase oil production. They're capped at what they can sell like three million barrels a day or something. They want to go to five million. They have the capacity to do it, but OPEK has told them they can't, so will they left OPEC. Also, Venezuela was one of the founding members of OPEK. A bit of a different situation going on with Venezuela now too, right. That's why I say, like when you zoom out and you look at the entire chess board, there are all sorts of things that are occurring, that is, reordering the pieces on the board, all right, So let me do this. There are more texts coming in, but. I have to. I've got to get to this because it ties in. This is from Lisa def Terry, foreign policy analyst and media commentator over at the New York Post. She writes, the. Iranian regime has always known that the surest way to weaken the United States is not to defeat our military, but to erode the American public's will to support its own. And in the ninety days since Operation Epic Fury began, the regime has found its most effective vehicle for that campaign. Much of the Western press the US is losing. Trump has no plan. The strikes were all a failure. Gas is four point fifty a gallon, which's way more than that in California. But those are state taxes, right, So all of these things are cited as proof that the war was a mistake. America is the aggressor. Israel dragged us into their war. The regime can't be toppled, so we might as well just negotiate with it. The price at the pump matters more than the centrifuge is in for down. I say this all the time. We are in an informational battle space, particularly online. Okay, and news organizations operate online as well. Right, again, not to sound all Alex jonesy, but there is a war for your mind. There is a war going on with the with you know, the end goal being that you believe something that somebody else wants you to believe, right, And so it's important to ask yourself, as I was going over yesterday with the data centers, it's important to always ask who is promoting this idea and if you keep tracing back the money, always follow the money. If you keep tracing back the money to China, recognize that China does not have our best interests at heart. So if they're funding something, they're funding the anti data center campaigns, they're funding disinformation, demoralization campaigns, if they're. Pushing this stuff out. If Iran and Russia, if they're doing this, that's important information when you are developing your opinion. She goes on to say the Sufon Center documented back in April how Iran's regime is one of the most effective influence operations in modern memory. Viral instagram clips, ai generated battlefield footage, embassy troll accounts taunting the American president, slick rap videos, researchers at Clemson exposed an IRGC network of at least sixty two accounts that are impersonating Texans, Californians, and Ritz to seed regime narratives inside our own discourse. The media is only one front. The same regime that funds Hamas and Hezbollah has spent the past two years bankrolling the campus encampments and pro Hamas street protests that have convulsed America's cities since October seventh. Right the Tenttifada that all of that is Iranian proxy warfare. In July of twenty four, the D and I took the extraordinary step of publicly confirming this. Actors tied to the Iranian government were posing as activists online, seeking to encourage protests, and even providing financial support to protesters. The chancellor of Syracuse University said publicly last fall that he believed Iran's regime was behind the demonstrations on his own campus. Hesbela flags at Columbia, Hamas headbands at UCLA, chance of death to America outside the White House. None of this is organic. It's Tehran on running its playbook on American soil. The regime knows it can't beat the US military, so it's fighting on the only terrain where it has a chance. American hearts and minds, and our press corps, some two partisan or too eager to make Trump look bad, has volunteered as the delivery system. You know, Vladimir Lenin had a phrase for people who served a hostile cause without being paid. He called them useful idiots. And speaking of useful idiots, I've got one to talk about in the next out stick around. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to vpetecallanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.

