Mark Starling, the morning host at WWNC in Asheville, has the tragic story of how a maniac who got released by two different judges went on the kill a woman and a retired police chief in a weekend of mayhem in Western NC. Plus, letting your house fill with burning tire smoke fights racism.
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[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_05]: It is Wednesday, 1 o'clock, and that means we talk with Western North Carolina's own local radio host, Mark Starling from WWNC. Yes, I saw in the story at WLOS, or a local TV station, I should say, in the Asheville area, that the Buncombe County District Attorney, Todd Williams, recently discussed a pretty awful thing about the news.
[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_05]: There was a couple incident that occurred up there, but he discussed the issue on a local radio show.
[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Was that...
[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_04]: We're actually changing the name of the show to that.
[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, nice!
[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Just going to be called a local radio show with some guy.
[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_05]: With some guy.
[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_05]: A local...
[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, that makes sense.
[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Because when I was up there, and so years ago when I was working with you up in Asheville, there was the shooting in Chattanooga, Tennessee,
[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and you, and to a much, much lesser degree, I helped.
[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_05]: But it was your idea, and you started this thing where we would sign the banners, we brought them over to the local grocery store, and had a whole bunch of people show up to sign these banners that showed support for the military recruiters that were attacked in Chattanooga.
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And this same TV station came over to do a story on it, and again, called us a local radio station.
[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Matter of fact, actually interviewed me on camera, and it said local radio host.
[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_04]: There you go.
[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we really get our creditor out here, you know?
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, it would be different if you guys were maybe like a media partner with this television station.
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, yeah, we are.
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh.
[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Doesn't buy a whole lot of clout, unfortunately.
[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_04]: That's weird.
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course.
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Not to use...
[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_04]: When they have turnover, like most people change their underwear, like, you know...
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Still.
[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_04]: They go through quite a bit of staff there.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I've never understood this hesitancy or resistance to giving credit to other outlets.
[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I just, I don't understand where that comes from out of some like misguided sense, like, oh, well, they're our competitor.
[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just, it's, it's just absurd.
[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, so like, credit, you should give credit where it is due, at least in a link, and they don't even do that.
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Because you did interview Todd Williams, the district attorney.
[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And you, you do this pretty regularly up there.
[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Every week.
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_05]: On your show.
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And so, the story out of Asheville, but the larger area, because this maniac was all over the place up in western North Carolina.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_05]: His name was Ryan Houston.
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And I guess we go back to what, May of last year, when he got charged with attempted murder for shooting a Buncombe County Sheriff's deputy outside of the magistrate's office.
[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_05]: So right outside of the, the, the courthouse and the jail is right.
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I know exactly where it is.
[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_05]: And he shot a deputy out there and then he got released.
[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: So basically what happened was his wife had shown up at the magistrate's office to pull papers for domestic violence and pull a warrant on him.
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_04]: He showed up with a gun, at the very least to intimidate her, at the very most to kill her.
[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, obviously deputies and one, uh, Asheville police officer stepped in.
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_04]: A scuffle ensued.
[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Shots were fired.
[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, a deputy was shot.
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And so was Ryan Houston.
[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Ryan Houston fled the scene and was arrested a short time later when he went to go get medical attention for the bullet that went into his shoulder.
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, he was originally given a $2.6 million bond for, uh, attempted murder of a law enforcement officer.
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That was knocked down, I believe to, I, uh, kind of remember exactly, I can't remember exactly what the charge was knocked down to.
[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And his bond was lower to $1.6 million to which he put up a piece of property and was able to get released on that.
[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, part of the stipulation when he was in front of, uh, Judge, uh, Jacqueline Grant was that he was to be, he was to remain on electronic monitoring.
[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, uh, within, you'll have to fast, you have to fast forward a little bit, but when within, at some point in time, his ankle monitor stopped showing up on the radar.
[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_04]: It was a, it was an approximate period of about 10 hours at about hour, nine and a half.
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_04]: The district attorney's office said, you know what? This ain't going to work.
[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_04]: They filed for a revocation of bond because he was not in compliance with the judge's orders.
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, that was tossed to the side and he was allowed to maintain his freedom.
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And then that brings us up to last Thursday.
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_04]: He was in a car with a young woman.
[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_04]: They were traveling down I-40.
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, they were driving so fast that when they passed the state patrol officer, the state patrol, Iowa patrol officer actually said, you know what?
[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not even going to engage them because there's just no way I can't catch up to them.
[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not safe.
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_04]: So the, the state patrol officer continues driving up 40.
[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, lo and behold, he comes upon an accident scene where that very car smashed into the back of a semi truck.
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, both people, both occupants were outside of the vehicle.
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_04]: He hit the, he hit the semi truck so hard.
[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_04]: It had dislodged the actual engine from the car.
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, they were quickly realized that this, the young woman that was with him was having a medical emergency.
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_04]: She was having a hard time breathing while they're attending to her.
[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_04]: He takes off.
[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_04]: So it turns out that they, they look at her and they go, well, something's not right here because she has this gaping stab wound in her chest.
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_04]: No.
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_04]: That's not consistent with a car accident as well as a slash across her arm.
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_04]: They realize he has fled the scene.
[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_04]: After he fled the scene, he went to a homeowner's house, uh, beat the ever loving snot out of a homeowner to the point where they were in critical condition, put into ICU with facial fractures, stole their vehicle, stole a rifle, and then took off.
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, that vehicle either wrecked or stalled.
[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_04]: He then went into another home invasion, took another vehicle and disappeared.
[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Sometime on late Friday night or Saturday, early Saturday morning, he was able to steal a, uh, a Jaguar and start fleeing in that car down I-26 in the wrong direction and gets into a head on collision.
[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_04]: That kills not only himself, but killed the police chief of the marshal police department who had literally retired on Wednesday after a 30 year career in law enforcement.
[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, they were fairly certain that it was him and autopsy was conducted.
[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, they were able to match the bullet wound in his shoulder with the medical records because the remains were burned beyond recognition.
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and that's where we are today.
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Where basically two judges essentially refused to listen to law enforcement, refused to listen to a district attorney's office that filed for no less than three bond modifications and revocations.
[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And the DA's office was on top of this case.
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_04]: They knew how violent this guy was and that he didn't need to be out of jail.
[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And Judge Jacqueline Grant and Judge Calvin Hill, Judge Calvin Hill was the one that lowered the bond.
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Judge Jacqueline Grant was the one that allowed him to stay out of jail.
[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I believe that they have blood on their hands.
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And as we, as we dig a little bit deeper into, uh, Judge Jacqueline Grant, we come to find out that she was appointed to that position by Governor Roy Cooper in 2021.
[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_04]: She was elected when she ran unopposed in 2022.
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And would you like to guess how much experience that Judge Grant had in the criminal court system before she started that job?
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, in the whole criminal court system?
[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Not counting any arrests or anything like that?
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I'm going to say a year.
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, well, you would be a year too high because she had zero experience in the criminal court system.
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_04]: She had spent her entire career in the civil court system.
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And now we've got a judge who really doesn't know what she's doing.
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, by all accounts, she doesn't know what she's doing.
[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: This is the same judge that released a man who was, who had a violent felony history a mile long.
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_04]: He was arrested for shooting into an occupied vehicle, multiple shots.
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_04]: They had three people in the vehicle.
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_04]: She let him out on a nine day time serve sentence with community service.
[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Like this is, I mean, this is why judicial races matter.
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_04]: This is why, this is why judicial races have to have people from both parties running.
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, and in Buncombe County, we don't have that.
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Nobody run, no Republicans don't run a race.
[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, Democrats run unopposed in these judges races and they win every single time.
[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And part of this is the insular, is the insular nature of the legal community just in general as well.
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_05]: If you're a lawyer, it's not, not good form to run against a sitting judge.
[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and Calvin Hill, you mentioned he's, he's over, like, he's the superior court, like main judge.
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Is he not?
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Like he, he does the appointments and stuff.
[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_04]: He's superior court.
[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_04]: He's one of the three points magistrates.
[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, it's just, it's unbelievable.
[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, judge Jacqueline Grant and these races do matter.
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_05]: This is why, um, and the woman that was, uh, also in the car with the stab wound, her name
[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_05]: was Mallory crisp.
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And she also died from those injuries from the stab wounds.
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_04]: She did.
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And that, so, uh, literally two people, two innocent people, she leaves behind two, uh,
[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I believe their teenage sons and obviously a load of family and friends, two people are
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_04]: dead.
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_04]: One of them, a retired police chief who had been retired for less than 48 hours is dead
[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_04]: because of this judge.
[00:10:46] Yeah.
[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I couldn't say that because of the judge's decision.
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, I mean, I get, yeah, but it's still the judge.
[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, Mark Starling morning guy at a local radio station, otherwise known as WWNC in
[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Asheville, uh, appreciate your time, sir.
[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Thanks so much for spending it with us.
[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see you next week.
[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_04]: You got it, Pete.
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Always appreciate it.
[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, this is why elections have consequences, right?
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Whether it's the judicial races out in, uh, Asheville, but also here in Mecklenburg,
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_05]: obviously people don't pay a lot of attention, but it's why you need to have people running
[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_05]: for these offices because what happens is what happened out in Asheville, people with
[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_05]: no experience in a criminal courtroom.
[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_05]: And they have a political ideology that is to turn people loose.
[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_05]: It was actually a sentiment expressed by Tim walls is wife, Gwen walls.
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, uh, played the clip yesterday where she said, you know, how many chances do we give
[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_05]: people as many as it takes is what she said.
[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_05]: So you just keep letting them out.
[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_05]: In fact, there's another clip here of, um, what do they call this?
[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_05]: She, the second woman.
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Is that what they?
[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Wait a minute.
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_05]: If Kamala Harris is the president and that's the, so her husband is the first gentleman,
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_05]: then the vice president's wife would be the first lady, right?
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Cause there's no other lady in front of her.
[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_05]: There is the president, but you don't call her first lady.
[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_05]: You call her president.
[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_05]: So wouldn't, would she be the first lady also or the second lady?
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you call her the second lady?
[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess probably second lady.
[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, um, here is what the governor's wife, Gwen walls said, um, about her experience
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_05]: during the Minneapolis riots.
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It's I could smell the burning tires and, um, that was, that was a very real thing.
[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And I kept the windows open for as long as I could, because I felt like that was such
[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_00]: a touchstone of what was, what was happening.
[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm confused.
[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I recognize I, uh, I sometimes get confused when I hear leftist moon bats speak, um, when
[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_05]: they are trying to exhibit empathy and express understanding.
[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I could smell the burning tires.
[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I kept the windows open as long as I could, because I felt that was such a touchstone of
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_05]: what was happening.
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_05]: But I had to fill my house with the smoke of burning tires.
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, is this like one of those privilege walk things?
[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Is this like some sort of self-flagellation that as a, as a, a white liberal woman, as an
[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_05]: awful affluent white female liberal that she has to, um, that, that she's got to, like fill
[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_05]: her house with tire, burnt tire smoke as some form of atonement or something.
[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I've, I've seen a lot of privilege walk type of exercises.
[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And I have to admit, I have never heard of the fill your house with burnt tire smoke in
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_05]: order to atone for your institutional racism.
[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I, I was not aware of that.
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_05]: She says she kept the windows open as long as she could, as long as she, well, how long
[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_05]: was that?
[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd be curious to know.
[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Can we get a timeframe on that?
[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I don't know, like this is a standard I am unaware of.
[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_05]: And so is there a certain time required, right?
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Like if I close my windows after 30 seconds of smoke coming in, does that make me still
[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_05]: a racist?
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Or do I, do I absolve my racism if I leave it open for longer than a minute, minute and
[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_05]: a half?
[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Like what's the, what's the timestamp here?
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Do we also do, do we need to have some sort of, um, I don't know, like an inspection system
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_05]: that occurs here?
[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Do I have to have somebody come over like a violence interrupter or somebody that, or an
[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_05]: ambassador of some kind, not a cop, obviously not because we've defunded those, but you
[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_05]: have somebody come in to like monitor how much smoke has come in and for how long.
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_05]: And then you get a certificate of some kind, like completing a DEI class or whatever.
[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And then you're like, Hey, look at me.
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm no longer a racist because I allowed my entire house to fill up with toxic chemicals
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and smoke.
[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_05]: See, that's kind of weird.
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Don't you think that's a weird thing to say?
[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Have you ever heard of somebody say, I allowed the stench of the burning tires to waft through
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_05]: my domicile in order to, uh, I don't know, be in touch with a quote, very real thing that
[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_05]: was happening.
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_05]: That's weird.
[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Weird being something out of the usual abnormal.
[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_05]: If you will, I might need a ruling on this email is Pete at the Pete calendar show.com.
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, you can also hit me up on Twitter at Pete calendar.
[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I have a lot of messages.
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to get to them.
[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I promise.
[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to get to them.
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, first, let me go to Ralph.
[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Hello, Ralph.
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to the program.
[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_05]: How are you doing?
[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Pete, uh, you know, to cleanse your white privilege, you need to leave those windows
[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_03]: open.
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_03]: So long that the next day you have to call zero res to come out there and cleanse your
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_03]: draperies and upholstery.
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And then they're going to march your family out in the front yard and pressure wash you.
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And, and that will get you on the path, not necessarily completely free of that privilege, but all the
[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_03]: path to cleanliness.
[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's the first step in doing the work, uh, because the work is never done.
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, obviously.
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's interesting.
[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_05]: So it, so that's the standard to absolve myself, uh, of the, uh, patriarchal white oppression
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_05]: is to allow the tires to burn and to fill my house with smoke, but only up to the point
[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_05]: where I need zero res in to clean.
[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_03]: That, that is, that is correct.
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, Hey Pete, uh, looking forward in Mrs. Ralph, we're looking forward to meeting
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_03]: y'all guys tonight.
[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Cool.
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, look forward to, uh, make sure you come up and say hi.
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I will not call her Mrs. Ralph.
[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I don't think that's what she goes by, but, uh, yeah, look forward to it.
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[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, Bob says, uh, Gwen Walls kept window, kept her windows open until it became inconvenient
[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_05]: to do so.
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_05]: The fact she smells tire smoke is enough.
[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Don't ask that's virtuous breathing that the great unwashed cannot do.
[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, uh, Dennis says when Walls, his wife said she wanted to leave her windows open to be
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_05]: able to smell the burning rubber from the cars during a riot.
[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_05]: It reminds me of Robert Duvall's statement in the movie Apocalypse Now, whereby he declares,
[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I just love the smell of napalm in the morning.
[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't care who you are, Pete.
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_05]: That's weird.
[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, Stan says, oh, that's it, Pete.
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_05]: It's the freak in you that makes your show good.
[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Although some would just call that weird.
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, that's fair.
[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, let me see here.
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Ron has a, oh yes, Ron, I will get to that.
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, the, uh, uh, the legislation on the sexual orientation that was passed in Minnesota.
[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_05]: We're learning a lot about Minnesota state law.
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Basically think about all of the worst laws that Roy Cooper, my good friend Ray here in
[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_05]: North Carolina did or attempted to do.
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what happened in Minnesota.
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, John says, uh, you know what else is weird about, uh, well, so people are calling Tim
[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Walls.
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_05]: They're calling him tampon Tim.
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I prefer Timpon that I prefer that because he put tampons in all of the, uh, school boys
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_05]: restrooms starting at grade four, all the way through grade 12 in the boys rooms, which
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_05]: is weird.
[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know what else is weird about him abandoning his unit when they needed it?
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, when they needed it, his leadership, the most, when they needed his leadership the most
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_05]: as they shipped off to war.
[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Right?
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_05]: So this is the other thing he's going to have a problem with.
[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he's got a lot of, he's going to have a lot of problems.
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Tim walls.
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, which may, it's just kind of mind boggling as to why the Harris vetters pick this
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_05]: guy because there is so much wrong with him, but keep this in mind.
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I thought this was a really good point.
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, this is Sagar and Jetty.
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_05]: He is the cohost of breaking points with, uh, Crystal and Sagar at the realignment podcast.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_05]: So he's a host.
[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_05]: He's got like half a million followers.
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, he said, Tim walls, his job is not to activate blue collar voters.
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_05]: That's not the point.
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_05]: It is to activate affluent white suburban liberals who feel like he could appeal to blue collar
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_05]: voters.
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you get the difference?
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not to appeal to actual blue collar voters and fly over country.
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_05]: It's to appeal to the rich white suburban voters, the liberals in the suburbs who are like, oh,
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I think he would totally appeal to the farmers.
[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_05]: That's who they're trying to activate with this pick.
[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_05]: He says, this is not a dunk.
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a huge strength.
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_05]: It's literally a white liberal dream to vote for a black woman with a blue collar, quote
[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_05]: unquote, seeming governor that spent the entire campaign talking about being pro choice.
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what this is.
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_05]: This is what they love.
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_05]: This is what gets the left fired up.
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_05]: You've got a woman of color and you've got this, you know, white progressive.
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, let's be clear.
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, the guy is espousing all sorts of communist crap as governor of Minnesota.
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I've got the clips.
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_05]: You're going to start seeing this stuff.
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you better start seeing this stuff if the Trump campaign is worth its salt.
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_05]: You're going to see this stuff all over the place.
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_05]: But one of the big problems I think he's going to have is the fact that he's been touting his military experience.
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And he was in the National Guard for what, 27 years, 28 years, something like that.
[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And then they got deployed to Iraq and he quit.
[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_05]: He he retired rather than go lead his unit into war.
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_05]: He walked away.
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And for people in the military, that's a really big deal.
[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_05]: They really don't like that.
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's it's like on it's on par with stolen valor.
[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And then there is the.
[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, here's another one.
[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_05]: He was on Joy Reid show.
[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_05]: That crazy person on MSNBC.
[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_05]: This is what he said about free speech.
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we need to push back on this.
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or or hate speech and especially around our democracy.
[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_05]: There's no right to free speech if the government, I guess, decides it's misinformation.
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Yet he's up there spreading lies about J.D. Vance at his speech last night.
[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Because the rules never apply to the party leaders, of course.
[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_05]: When you're in the Politburo, you could do whatever you want.
[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Michael says, Pete, leaving your windows open when there is toxic smoke from burning tires coming into your home is stupid.
[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And to brag about it.
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's even stupider.
[00:23:11] Right.
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_05]: The Hellion says after some more viewing and reading of Tim Walls, I'm starting to wonder if he was a money pick for Kamala.
[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_05]: He will say what needs to be said to keep the money flowing where a moderate, quote unquote, would not.
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I figured there would be no way they would pick Ray, our good friend Ray, Governor Cooper.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I think these were fake nobility nods to white folks and Jews, meaning Josh Shapiro.
[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_05]: That's possible.
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's see.
[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Russ says, or the Harris vetters picked him because of his problems.
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_05]: What we see as moonbat crazy in their silo, they see as positive.
[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I waffle between Kamala being picked as VP as an insurance policy for Joe or because she was exactly the kind of radical that the Obama wing wanted to be the future of their party and our country.
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Look, I went over this a couple of weeks ago, too.
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_05]: It seems like every 40 years or so we have to kind of confront this this radical progressive Marxism in our in our politics ever since, you know, that that crazy man first penned his manifesto.
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And so far, voters tend to reject it right when when Democrats go too far crazy leftist.
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_05]: They get just demolished in the polls.
[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_05]: But they keep trying.
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_05]: The long march never ends.
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_05]: That's why their slogan is always forward.
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_05]: You never arrive.
[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_05]: The work is always to be done.
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_05]: It sets you free.
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_05]: That's literally what they put at the concentration camps.
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's what the the North Koreans espouse as a philosophy, because that's one of the hallmarks of Marxism.
[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_05]: So this idea that that, oh, if we just beat them, then, you know, the party will change the Democrat Party.
[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_05]: My view of them is that the party's lost.
[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think there is enough people left to take back the or the Democrat Party.
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I've been saying this for the last, I don't know, six years that the parties are realigning.
[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you're seeing a lot of that in this election, because the choice now is pretty clear to me that we have on the Democrat side, a very radical leftist ticket.
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_05]: And on the right, we have a nationalist kind of economic policy option.
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And neither one of these speak to me.
[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I understand what people believe about, quote unquote, America first.
[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_05]: But when you look at the economic policies, they're oftentimes protectionist.
[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm a free trader.
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm a free market guy.
[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And so that stuff doesn't resonate.
[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_05]: But what scares the hell out of me are communists trying to take control.
[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And and that's what I think is represented now in this ticket.
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Her choice tells me everything I need to know about how she intends to govern.
[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And that is, you know, at a.
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's just it's a terrifying prospect.
[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Let me see here.
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Matt says regarding Tim Walls's speech, weird walls.
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I wonder which one works harder, Tim Walls's dad joke speechwriter or that button on his jacket.
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a good question.
[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Seth says he reminds me of a not at all funny version of Don Rickles.
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Seriously, he could be his humorless twin.
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_05]: That's he does look like Don Rickles.
[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_05]: He really does.
[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Jan says that that caller Jack was a plant to make you look better.
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Wasn't he?
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_05]: That kind of babbling ignorance was a bit over the top, Pete.
[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_05]: He was either a plant to make you look better or he's an example of why we should just leave this to the professionals.
[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, not a lot of.
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, not a lot of people were impressed with Jack's performance last hour in his phone call.
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Alan said Jack is a bit off.
[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_05]: And Chip says Tim Walls is not the first, quote, happier happy warrior from Minnesota.
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_05]: That guy who calls to vent should thank the baby Jesus that you're around.
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Otherwise, he would only have the clouds at which to scream.
[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_05]: That's fair.
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Look, I I enjoy having the discussions with people that I don't agree with.
[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_05]: So Jack is always welcome to call.
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I just don't like the thing that the thing that I that I bristle at is is the condescension.
[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, that's the thing that kind of gets under my skin a little bit is this this approach like I am so much.
[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm so much more informed and wiser and I have this great point to make and I'm going to make it in such a way that you won't even have an a response to.
[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And well, first off, I found that not to be the case.
[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I usually have a response to all of that stuff because I read I read the left.
[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I read them.
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I watched their clips and such.
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_05]: So I know what they're going to say.
[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I know their arguments.
[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_05]: So it doesn't always work so well, but I enjoy the conversations.
[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_05]: All right. That'll do it for this episode.
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