Judge who helped a criminal alien escape is NOT having a good trial (12-18-2025--Hour3)

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I've got two of them here because it's taking place over the course of several days here. But as I understand it now, the prosecution has now rested and the let me double check here just to confirm before I say something that yes, the defend of the defense has just four witnesses that it could that it says it plans to call today, so this thing could be done with closing arguments tomorrow and go to the jury. And that's always like I don't predict predict election outcomes and I don't predict jury outcomes. You never know what a jury is going to do. You you know, observers in the courtroom, you think this is an air tight case and the jury comes back hung or not guilty or something, or you know, vice versa. You think, oh, gosh, weak case, and then they come back with, you know, guilty on all accounts, like wow, And then you always got to keep in mind like the time of day, right, this is a week before Christmas. If you get the case, if you're the jury, and you go back to deliberate, and it's a you know, it's like Friday at eleven am. You may you may stick around through lunch, get your last free meal kind of a thing, but then you know, you want to wrap it up in the next five hours so you can go home and not have to come back after a weekend on a Monday, the Monday before Christmas. Right, all of that stuff factors in. That's why I don't predict outcomes on this stuff, but I will say the case does not appear to be going very well for Judge Dugan. So the judge who was with Dugan, there was another judge there and her name is Christella Severa. Okay, so she was with Judge Dugan because Dugan had asked her to come out of her courtroom. I'll get to more own more of the details on that in a minute. So the judge who was with Dugan confronting the arrest team in the hallway took the stand, and her testimony did not help right. Judge Severa testified that the courthouse is a public building and then anybody is allowed in. She said, it's a public building and once they passed through security, technically anybody is free to enter the courthouse for any reason. She then testified that Judge Dugan had summoned her out of her courtroom, which is right next to Dugan's courtroom, and Dugan said, hey, come out into the hallway to check a warrant. Dugan asked her to keep your robe on. Severa said she was uncomfortable with this because us she doesn't like she says, I didn't want to walk in the hallway with my robe on. She said that it conveys authority, and when you're out in the hallway, you're not in your courtroom, and so you don't have any you know, authority out in the hallway. So judges don't wear their robes out in the hallway, but in this case, Dugan said, were your robe. Severa was uncomfortable with it, but apparently she did it. She also confirmed the testimony from earlier that Judge Dugan seemed angry or irritated when she spoke to the arrest team. Judge Severa said that the federal agent was professional, but Dugan could have been more quote diplomatic. Her irritation seemed to progress to anger, said Severa. After Judge Dougan told the members of the arrest team that they had to go to to the Chief Judge's office, Judge Severa walked down the hall to show them where to go. So Dugan was like, show that you got to go to the chief Judge's office. That's down there. Judge Severa, go take them down there. Severa walks them down there, turns around and realizes that Judge Dugan was gone, Dugan didn't follow along. She said she felt abandoned by Dugan when she led the federal officials to the Chief Judge's office and realized Dugan hadn't followed her. She says, I was amazed, I thought she left me. Fast forward later on in the day, Severa starts getting emails and texts and stuff from several public defense attorneys, public defenders, and she's not sure why she's getting all of this these accolades, why people are praising her. Why are all these public defenders celebrating her, And at first she wasn't sure why. And then later she is quote mortified that they thought she was trying to help a criminal defendant escape arrest. So these public defenders thought she was in on the deception, and she was shocked. Maura Gingrich, an attorney who was identified as the woman that was taking photos of the federal agents in the hallways. Maura Gingrich, who's on the witness list, said, we know what you guys are trying to do. That's what Gingrich told the judge Severa, we know what you guys were trying to do. And Severa's like, I wasn't trying to do that. I was just told to come out and then escort these guys down to the chief Judge. Later that day, Dugan tells SERVERA that Dugan is in trouble now with the chief judge because the chief Judge was not in his office, but he did speak on the phone with members of the arrest team. Dugan tells SERVERA that she is quote in the doghouse with the chief judge because she had quote tried to help that guy, so that guy is obviously a Eduardo Flores Ruiz. In other words, Dugan admitted to doing the thing that this trial is all about, the very thing. Judge SERVERA was mortified that the public defenders thought that she played some role in. Next on the stand Sheriff's Office Sergeant David Desmet, a supervisor handling security at the courthouse. He testified federal agents did not need an escort in the courthouse, it's a public building. The arrest team was allowed to be in there, but Dugan said they needed to be escorted. He also said that he had asked them not to arrest Flores Ruiz until after his court hearing so he wouldn't have a failure to appear on his record. That was beyond his control. He also testified that Dugan had told him that it's illegal to make arrests in a courtroom. De Smet testified Dugan told him it's illegal to arrest people in a courtroom based on a Supreme Court decision. He said it surprised him and asked her to cite the case so he could research it and relay information to deputies. But he never got anything about that case law because there isn't any so Dugan lied to him. Judge Servera testified that she allows arrests to take place in her courtroom. In fact, it happened several times a week. Also, the arrest team never tried to make an arrest in Dugan's courtroom, only in the hallway outside, which is the public area. De Smet also testified that there was no require firemen for federal agents to go to the Chief Judge's office either, So Dugan just lied to multiple people in order to effect you eate and escape by a criminal illegal alien from her courtroom. Here's a great idea. 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She lied to the officers, she lied to her colleague, the other judge servera, she lied to the. Deputy. Just lied all in an effort to help a criminal defendant escape. Even more damning, the chief judge testified that he had asked Judge Dugan to call him, sent her a text message they call me, and then he changed his mind after deciding it might be better for her if he actually did not ask her to explain herself. So after all of this blew up and she got herself arrested for obstructing the officers. She's ranting and raving as she's getting put into the back of the cruiser, and Chief Judge is like, you need to call You need to give me a call. And then he's like, on second thought, no, because whatever, if I start asking you questions, you're going to say stuff that's gonna get used against you. So let's just not have a conversation at all. Anything she texted or said could be incriminating. Then Judge Dugan's clerk took the stand. This guy, Alan Freed, testified that he was outraged that Ice had shown up in the courthouse and he called he called one of the members of the arresting team, called him a fascist. That's what he said. I called him a fascist. And then he said I was upset and a little bit outraged. Oh okay, so that makes it okay. Judge Dougan also Freed also talked about how case this is how long they typically take these off the record cases. He said they're typically heard pretty quickly, but then he admitted that the case of Eduardo Flores Ruiz that his off the record case was actually much quicker than most cases. Dugan, Judge Dugan rushed through the case why to help him get out the back door. Prosecutors then played the audio where from Judge Dougan where she mentions sending them down the stairs, in other words, talking about the defendant and his attorney to send them down the stairs. Freed confirmed that Dugan had said that she would get heat for doing this, so right, that speaks to intent and knowledge that what you are doing is illegal. You are going to get in trouble for doing this because what you are doing is wrong, and you are a judge, so you can't claim ignorance here. This is malice aforethought, if you will. Mercedes Dala Rosa then spoke. She was the defense attorney for Eduardo Flores Ruiz and she says she never heard Judge Dougan telling her to go down the stairs, even when they played the audio from the courtroom where you could hear Judge Dougan telling her that she claims she didn't hear it. Why, she said, well, my brain was spinning. It was good Friday, and I didn't have any food or coffee that day. So apparently if you have not eaten or had a cup of Joe. You go death. I guess it's temporary, so that's good news. But this is news to me. This is a new development. I'm not aware that if if you are on an empty stomach, that you lose the ability to hear. So she's claiming she didn't hear it. But the issue in the trial isn't what the attorney heard. It's what Judge Dugan said, and it's what she intended. John Sexton writing that the audio recording proves her intent was for the defendant and his attorney to go down the stairs, not to go out into the hallway. Go down the stairs, not the hallway. And this brings us to the court reporter. She was called to the stand. Her name is Joan Butz, and she testified she had never before her Judge Dugan tell any attorney to take their client out that non public door. That door is for judges in the court staff. Okay, every now and again, maybe an attorney will go back there, but that door is never for defendants. Butts is the person who offered to show the attorney and the defendant how to exit the hallway by the stairs. She explained there was concern that they might mistakenly take the wrong door, and if you take the wrong door, you're going to run into the Ice agents. See. So that's why it was important tell them to take the stairs. That's why the judge said that not the hallway, the stairs. She said. She asked Dugan, this is Butts. Butts asks Dugan if she needed to show the defense attorney where to go to find the stairs. Because this attorney was a newer attorney, there was concern that she would not know which door to go through. She said, the wrong door was the door that led into the public hallway, and the door to the stairs is the right door. In this instance, the court reporter. Butts testified there was concern about the defendant and the attorney going out the quote wrong door. Butts testified that if the attorney and her client went out the wrong door, they would encounter the ice people. Butts testified there was concern between her and Dugan that they could get in trouble if the defendant and his attorney went out the wrong door. See once again, here's another example of it, like not my plan, like to the jury, I'm telling the jury, like if this plan sounds stupid, we agree, Like as the prosecutor, I would not have come up with this kind of a plan. I would not have done it this way, or I would not have done it at all. But don't hold it against the prosecutor just because the plan was stupid. Right, Like all all of the evidence here, I'm really not sure what kind of a defense they're going to be able to mount to this. They have the audio recording, right, They've got all of this other testimony from all of her colleagues, they got text messages and stuff. It's all very clear what she did and why. But we'll see what happens. The defense has time to put on some witnesses. Don't know if she'll testify herself. 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Six people on the Cessna SEE five five zero fifty that crashed while landing at Statesville Regional Airport, about forty five miles north of Charlotte, according to the FAA. You know, obviously all of the investigative agencies are on the scene now try to piece together what exactly happened. And as I read earlier, I guess in the first hour when this news first was breaking that Biffle was a well known NASCAR driver with over five hundred Cups starts, he had nineteen wins. He made headlines outside of the racing world for his incredible efforts to bring help to those who were devastated by Hurricane Helene in twenty twenty four out in the mountains of North Carolina and East Tennessee. The former NASCAR Exfinity and Truck Series champion was also then making plans and had I guess at this point, to help provide relief to Jamaica after Hurricane Melissa made landfall. He is a registered pilot led several expeditions by helicopter into the mountains of western North Carolina and East Tennessee following Helene, aiming to help stranded people and deliver aid to those that were cut off from the rest of the world by the floods. One of the guys, one of his friends, and a guy that had helped do that relief efforts, a guy by the name of Sean Hendrix. We've had him on the show here to talk about what they were doing. He posted up onto Twitter, goodbye Greg Biffle. You made a massive impact on North Carolina and will not be forgotten. I'll make sure of that. You and your wife were amazing people. This was the last time I saw you. He's got a picture of them receiving an award for their service. I think about a couple of weeks ago. He says, could have never dreamed it would be the last time I saw you. Rest in peace, hero. So it's a sad day. Offer up your prayers if you are of the praying kind, to the Biffel family and friends and colleagues and fans too. He was apparently a big fan favorite in NASCAR. It's just an awful story. Don't know obviously what caused it, but does not appear there were any survivors in the crash. Guarding the topic from the second hour, we were talking about a House bill that passed yesterday. It was two sixteen to two eleven vote. Three Democrats crossed over to support the measure, four Republicans crossed over to vote against the measure. It's called the Protect Children's Innocence Act, and it would make it a Class C felony to do these transiing procedures on minors, surgeries, puberty blockers, that sort of thing. If enacted, the bill could imprison doctors who provide such care for up to ten years. And so I got a bunch of messages about this. I wanted to come back and and bring you some of them. This is from a seven oh four number on the text line, thank you for discussing this trans topic. Folks never talk about the parents that have children who think they are a different sex, But it's my hope that many are. Like my wife and me. We have a son who grew up in the church, chased girls, liked dogs and cars. After heading off to college, he met a girl who was nice on the surface, but she convinced him that he was really a woman. How does that happen. He began to take gender drugs, and then after graduation came out that he wanted to change his name and was now a girl. All a shock to us. Apparently he wrote a letter to them. Naturally, we were devastated, as were his siblings. Some friends we spoke to thought it was great. Yeah, there's a whole there's a whole subset here, so many different things going on, like psychologically, but there's this sort of accessorizing aspect to all of this, where it's like, look at me, I've got kids that are trans and so like that reflects well on me among my peers. Like it's sort of a it's a virtue signal, you know, like I get some sort of accessorizing value that this is, like, look what, I'm so open that my child is going down this path. You know, it's like a net positive in their mind, and this is part of the problem going forward. There's a one of the British actually she's Irish, but she's in Britain and is a writer and she's become a big women's rights activist and her name is Helen Joyce and she gave an interview with Peter but Agosian a couple of years ago. I played audio of it at the time, and she gave the analogy of like the Japanese soldiers that were on the islands that didn't know the war was over, you know, and she equated them to parents, because like, if you're a parent and you got on board with this and you helped your child do this, Like if it turns out that all of this was a social contagion, it was actually mental health disorder, and through psychotherapy, you could have avoided this lifelong you know, body modification and the problems and costs associated with all of that. Like, the parents can't ever give up the island. They can't ever admit that because to do so would be to admit that they did this horrible thing to their own child. They can't do it. It's really there's this topic. This makes me alternately sad and mad. 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I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. Going over some of the text messages regarding the passage of the House bill, it's titled Protect Children's Innocence Act. It would criminalize trans procedures on minors. So if doctors were to do this stuff, puberty blockers, surgeries and stuff which we are told they don't do. They don't do that for the children, So then Why would you have a problem with that law anyway? Don Davis from North Carolina Democrat that crossed over to vote with Republicans on that I was reading a text from a parent who has a son who transitioned to a daughter. He said, naturally, we were devastated. Some friends we spoke to thought it was great. We disagreed, and then they quit coming around because they feel we were not supportive of our son and calling us transphobic. Others ignored us, quit inviting us to events, parties, or dinners, and when we did run into them, they would act as as if we did not have another child, only asking about the other two. We stay in contact with our son. We've told him that we never want to see him go hungry or homeless, but can never support him with any money, not that we would have to start with. But he does struggle. He has a PhD in psychology. Now, of course he does. I had a buddy of mine in college who was a psych major. He said, everybody who goes into psychology as a psych major, they do it to try to fix themselves, to figure out themselves. But he lives with a sweet, real attractive girl. Her parents love him, but that in itself makes me question these people's minds. This is not normal. But because of our woke society, we cannot voice our dislike for trans kids or people without fear of being fired. There are a lot of parents struggling with what society is doing. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a I mean, I mean, what do transgender people call it when you use their given names? They call it dead naming, right, and they it's all about them and their feelings. You're dead naming me, right, But all of their loved ones they are experiencing sort of a death as well, right, the person that they knew. I mean, you're using the term dead naming. There's real grief that is associated among the loved ones. Let me see, let me get to some more messages here before the end of the show. That's already read that one. Here's one from another seven oh four number. A few years ago, the Democrat Party forced North Carolina under the threat of removal of DOJ funding, to raise the age of adult criminal accountability from sixteen to eighteen. The primary argument was that the brain of a sixteen or seventeen year old is so underdeveloped at those ages it inhibits their ability to reason and make decisions that are rational and appropriate. Some liberal states extend that age of adult culpability to twenty six, Yet these same people now vigorously advocate that children much younger than sixteen have the cognitive and emotional maturity to make permanent, life altering decisions like removing body parts and ingesting hormones that will literally change who they are. So will liberals admit they were wrong? No? No, that it's one of the democrat privileges. You never have to admit you were wrong about anything, even though you're wrong about a lot. Will they admit they were wrong about raising the age of criminal culpability or are they wrong about gender mutilation? I mean, they could be wrong about both. I choose You know it can be both. It's worth pointing out the UK already recently banned hormone and puberty blockers, as well as surgery for those under eighteen, and it is very restrictive in Finland and Sweden as well. This is not radical, Susie. You are absolutely correct. These European countries that were way ahead of us going down the transgender experimental path, they realized within the last two years or so that like these are not producing better outcomes, and they are now they've gone to the psychotherapy first model for kids. See, and that's the thing too, Like if you're an adult and you want to spend all of your own money doing this stuff, you know, because I see people make really bad decisions, you know, face tattoos for example. It's your body, you know. But there's a reason why things require parental consent for minors is because they don't understand the long term ramifications. I just saw somebody post it up, somebody who they're like, oh, I just got my let me see if I have it here. Yeah, it's like I just got my top surgery. So this is a person that is either getting implants or or got there. I think it's a female that had her breasts removed and she posted her bill. Total fees thirty three thousand, one hundred thirty nine dollars twenty one cents, So thirty three thousand dollars for the top surgery, hospital fees, thirty grand, physician fees twenty eight hundred, insurance covers thirty two thousand, So out of pocket for her is one thousand five dollars. So you're offloading these costs onto everybody else. Right. This is why RFK Jr. In his comments today when announcing these rule changes, like this has been a windfall, a boon for the medical practices for hospitals. And this isn't new. We saw the undercover video that leaked out of I think it was Vanderbilt Hospital System of the you know, the the chief of whatever, and she's like, we're making patients for life. Right. They have a financial incentive to push people down this pathway because the hospital makes a ton of money in perpetuity. Let me see here. Oh gosh, this text scroll. It's like the matrix seth. I can't read them. I can't read that. It's too small seth right, gender rejecting mutilation. Uh, you just said half of it right after I texted, right, mm hmm. Sorry. See when people have I gotta I'm gonna have to adjust some of these people's names in this thing because when when when we enter the names, if you enter the name is too long, then it creates like this, this matrix kind of stuttering effect. You might want to announce Independence has traffic lights down due to a garbage truck hitting it blocked in both directions Sartist Road North. Uh, you should send that to the the text line or sorry to the the traffic tip line. And I already packed up my stuff to clear the studio, so I don't have the number in front of me. You know that I don't either. Yeah, I need to give that out more the traffic tip. By the way, a new report out of England and Wales, women and girls are being targeted by sexual predators where in mixed gender changing rooms across England and Wales. Who would have ever thought that would happen. When you open up safe spaces for women to allow men to enter, and you normalize that, predators take advantage. This was one of my biggest arguments about the HB two bill and all of that fight about opening up all of the bathrooms and changing rooms and lockers and all of this, is that you normalize the comingling of the sexes and when you do that, you give more hunting grounds to predators and lo and behold, here we are. That's what they found in this report taking place across all of England. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.