Jeff Jackson (D-TikTok) caves to commenters (03-18-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:30] Hello, my name is Patrick, I'm a critic representative Jeff, baby Jesus Jackson.

[00:00:36] Struck a breezy tone. As he talked about the state of the union speech while sitting

[00:00:40] in the kitchen where he films several of his TikTok videos. By the way it's one of the

[00:00:47] things you don't ever say you're breezy. I mean I guess this writer Shania Shelton from

[00:00:55] CNN, she calls him breezy. He's just so adorable like baby Jesus. Casualness and relatability

[00:01:09] that Jackson has is resonated with TikTok users and led to the congressman gaining a significant

[00:01:14] following of more than two million followers over the past nearly three years. Right?

[00:01:19] Well do you remember what first put him on the national radar? Do you remember? Snowstorm.

[00:01:28] He was a state legislator, a backbencher, no power and he was up in Raleigh and they got

[00:01:36] snowed in and he went to the legislative session and he sent out a tweet storm back in

[00:01:44] the days. I'm not trying to dead name Twitter here, but they used to call them tweet storms

[00:01:50] now they call them threads or something. But he went on this multi-tweet thread making

[00:02:01] up stuff. Remember? He's like oh because I'm here in the legislative chamber alone

[00:02:08] I'm going to do this and you know Medicaid for everybody Medicare for all and now we're

[00:02:13] going to fund all the schools and now we're going to give all the teachers raises. I mean

[00:02:17] just like it was just one tweet after the other of like this laundry list of leftist ideas

[00:02:25] and everybody was stuck at home during a snowstorm and they start reading these tweets

[00:02:31] and all of the lefties are like oh my gosh this is so amazing. And then that launched

[00:02:38] him and then he got on to the TikTok and he's doing the little videos and stuff. And

[00:02:44] then things kind of went sideways for baby Jesus by the way they call him that his democratic

[00:02:49] colleagues gave him that name because he's like touted as the second coming or as the

[00:02:57] first coming I guess it would be but he's touted as like the son of God but he hasn't

[00:03:00] actually done anything at that point because he's just the baby Jesus right he's just that's

[00:03:04] all he's just kind of arrived you know in fulfillment of the scriptures but he hasn't

[00:03:09] he hasn't done anything yet. He hasn't done any of the miracles yet right he just can't

[00:03:14] he right he just happened to fulfill the prophecies of anyway. The the congressman was among

[00:03:23] the 352 members who voted in favor of legislation that would or could lead to a nationwide ban

[00:03:31] of TikTok which as you might imagine has gotten a lot of progressives on TikTok very upset

[00:03:37] with their TikTok savior. So he has a mast 36 million likes on this app I guess that's

[00:03:45] a total I don't know I do not use TikTok because I figure why would I want to get on the radar

[00:03:50] of the communist Chinese party but that just me. I mean your mileage may vary on that if you

[00:03:56] would like to identify yourself to the commies and give them a whole bunch of personal information

[00:04:01] that they can use against you. Totally your call not mine so anyway I guess they count

[00:04:08] up all of your likes total on the TikTok and so he has like 36 million likes since the

[00:04:14] passage of the bill in the house TikTok users though have flooded the comments section

[00:04:19] in his recent video. They are not happy okay so here let me play this audio this is the

[00:04:25] first audio so when he voted for the bill okay which is not a ban on TikTok per se it is a

[00:04:33] it is saying that bite dance the parent company of TikTok has to divest it has to spin off it has

[00:04:44] to sell off TikTok because it's a communist party company right. So like you're in your you're

[00:04:52] connected to the government of a foreign adversary you're collecting all of this data you are

[00:04:57] manipulating the the algorithms right. You're you're pushing information you're withholding certain

[00:05:04] information your propaganda platform for a foreign adversary much like we would not allow the Soviet

[00:05:12] Union to be running you know a network new station in the 80s right. So that was the argument for it

[00:05:22] I went over all of this we did this topic last week so he voted for it he voted to force the company

[00:05:29] to divest of TikTok and that got his users very upset and here is how we explained himself to his

[00:05:36] users after his vote. I don't think TikTok is going to be banned there was a bill to ban TikTok

[00:05:42] last year but it did it pass it didn't even get a vote TikTok may be sold to another company

[00:05:48] but it'll continue to operate the bill that just passed the house was about telling TikTok they have

[00:05:53] to sell to another company it hasn't passed the Senate and I don't know if it will if it does

[00:05:58] TikTok will be sold for billions of dollars and we'll continue to operate okay but why why tell

[00:06:04] them they have to sell the bottom line is there's a series concerned that the Chinese government can

[00:06:08] influence what you see on your for you page. They can tweak the algorithm in ways that may be helpful

[00:06:14] to them and harmful to us no it looks like they've done this around certain political subjects and

[00:06:19] they have the potential to do much more there is also a concern about them having access to your data

[00:06:24] but frankly that applies to all social media companies they are all sucking up your data but with

[00:06:29] those other social media companies don't have is an adversarial government that can influence

[00:06:34] the algorithm to manipulate the content you're shown in ways that will help them politically.

[00:06:39] And my adversarial government it means like a foreign government not the US government that might

[00:06:44] be adversarial to you and your positions on horsepaste for example but if it's a foreign entity

[00:06:54] that has identical positions then that's the problem. That's a difference and it's a big one. TikTok is

[00:07:00] owned by a company based in China and China has a national security law that gives its intelligence

[00:07:04] services a lot of power so if those services show up with the door of TikTok and say hey you have to

[00:07:11] change the algorithm for American users in these specific ways TikTok has to comply the effect could

[00:07:16] be subtle but persistent we got a big example of how that power could be used last week and it wasn't

[00:07:23] a huge pop-up notification validated everyone's concerns. It didn't mention anything about the actual

[00:07:28] intent of the bill which is to force a sale and allow TikTok to continue operating it just mischaracterized

[00:07:34] the bill and then told everyone to take political action based on that mischaracterization.

[00:07:40] Right so in case you weren't aware TikTok put a message up on their app that when you opened up

[00:07:47] the app and it said Congress is trying to ban us take action now so they gave misinformation

[00:07:54] and then inspired and did a call to action to their audience to their users based on the misinformation

[00:08:03] so if you had an as Jackson is saying and he is absolutely correct here that if you thought

[00:08:09] that TikTok would not engage in this kind of behavior you were wrong because they absolutely did

[00:08:17] during the debate about engaging in this behavior. I'm amazed someone thought this was a good idea

[00:08:23] but it proved the concern isn't hypothetical it's real right they will misinformed people on a huge

[00:08:29] scale and then used that to manipulate political behavior right letting that power stay in the hands

[00:08:34] of an adversarial government which China definitely is is inviting them to use that power. I know a

[00:08:41] lot of you have seen some members of Congress be deeply uninformed about this because they don't use

[00:08:46] TikTok and they don't care but I do use it and I think we can solve this problem and keep marching

[00:08:51] on and the way we're going to solve it there's the same way we solved it last time because we've

[00:08:55] confronted this issue before so that's the latest and I'll keep you posted. Right make them sell

[00:09:01] so TikTok users not happy with Jeff Jackson over this over his support for the legislation

[00:09:10] they then flooded his video criticizing him for the vote they said they were going to unfollow him

[00:09:17] and he did he lost followers his numbers have gone down I saw one estimate somewhere around 200,000

[00:09:24] people have ceased to follow him and then of course in the comments section the most popular

[00:09:29] comments are blaming AI pack American Israeli political action committee A pack the Jews

[00:09:40] they're saying he's bought off by the Jews because he's talking to who who's his audience

[00:09:47] he's a Democrat congressman so to his base anything that they don't like

[00:09:54] must be the Jews

[00:09:58] I put yeah I'm sure this there's not a larger problem inside the Democrat party going on here

[00:10:03] people nothing to be alarmed about at all by the way Jeff Jackson caved

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[00:11:20] so congressman jiff jackson democrat from tiktok has caved to the comment section of his tiktok count

[00:11:30] he came out and posted a video talking about why he voted for the bill to force tiktok to be sold

[00:11:37] off from its parent company because it's run by the chinese communist party basically

[00:11:43] and a lot of people got very mad at him because they believe obviously because tiktok told them

[00:11:48] that this is going to be a ban on tiktok when that's not actually what the bill would do

[00:11:54] and again not going over any of the pros and cons of the bill itself i did that last week but

[00:11:58] the uh... the point here is simply that the the people who were misinformed by tiktok by design

[00:12:06] then lobbied their lawmakers as tiktok told them to do right there by proving the very concern

[00:12:13] that people are being manipulated with misinformation and by the way it is different when the

[00:12:20] well the the communists do it if it's our government doing it

[00:12:25] and it's about like hunter Biden's laptop that's totally different so um

[00:12:31] Jeff Jackson posted the video he starts getting dragged in the comment section

[00:12:36] he then deletes that video off of tiktok but he allows it to stay on twitter i don't know why

[00:12:44] it was still up on twitter i watched it and i recorded it and uh here's the audio

[00:12:49] i apologize oh my god i did not handle this situation well from top to bottom

[00:12:54] and that is why i have been completely roasted on this app over the last 48 hours

[00:12:59] okay i just come on man first off you secondly like

[00:13:08] not to quote you know the philosopher crusty the clown but show some dignity hey hey

[00:13:15] right i mean oh i mean come on wait

[00:13:22] i apologize uh i mean like really like i have this image of him you know kneeling down he's got

[00:13:29] like the whip you know and he's like self-flagilating and he's just smacking his back with the whips

[00:13:37] and then he tries to make this i'm one of you that you know what it reminds me of the steve

[00:13:41] bouchemi clip that then became a meme right where steve bouchemi the actor right who's probably at

[00:13:50] this point in his you know 50s or six but he's always look like he's in his 50s or 60s and

[00:13:54] he's dressed like a high school kid he's got like the cap on backwards and he's got like a uh

[00:14:01] a t-shirt that says like student or something and he walks up to these high schoolers obviously

[00:14:08] you know some middle-aged late-aged narc and he's like greetings fellow students you know

[00:14:13] like that's what i'm getting that's the vibe i'm getting from Jeff Jackson here

[00:14:19] hey that's why i'm getting roasted in the comment section

[00:14:23] har har har har

[00:14:26] i'm waiting on him to pull out like a no cap or sus seriously yeah

[00:14:31] i apologize i did not handle this situation well from top to bottom and that is why i have been

[00:14:38] completely roasted on this app over the last 48 hours and i get it if i were in your shoes

[00:14:44] i would probably feel the same way wait wait wait why why would you feel the same way

[00:14:50] why would i wait you would feel like the Jews have bought you off too

[00:14:55] just because because you took a position on a bill

[00:15:03] and then you would automatically assume that the Jews bought you hmm it's interesting

[00:15:07] because my mind doesn't go there but what do i know someone who used this app to build a following

[00:15:13] and that appears to have voted against it and i would be upset and i would feel like i deserved more

[00:15:19] of an explanation so here goes i like this app i've been able to reach a lot of people and hear

[00:15:24] directly from them and it's been great i'm also in congress and i've been a part of some briefings

[00:15:30] about this app that were genuinely alarming when i was reading the bill the part i agreed with was

[00:15:36] the part that tries to force a sale because i figured this would just be a better app if we didn't

[00:15:41] have to worry about the stuff that comes with it being potentially controlled by an adversarial

[00:15:46] government the part i didn't like was the part that threatens a band half the country is on this app

[00:15:52] it has become a force for good in the lives of millions of people so i weighed those two things and

[00:15:57] the reason i voted forward was because i genuinely believe the chance of a band is practically zero

[00:16:04] for a lot of reasons financial political geopolitical i just don't think there's any real

[00:16:11] chance of a band see so what is he what is that a what is this argument a response to

[00:16:16] it's a response to tiktok posting that message telling everybody that this is a ban and now go lobby

[00:16:23] your lawmakers and they went after Jeff Jackson part of the problem with having such a large

[00:16:28] following on tiktok is that when it's weaponized against you everybody knows exactly who to go to right

[00:16:33] i still believe that but maybe i got that balance rock on the one hand i have information about

[00:16:39] this app that isn't public on the other the language of the bill was going to upset millions of

[00:16:46] people my thinking was i could reconcile those two things by just making a video that said hey

[00:16:51] here's the situation and that was a total disaster i really overestimated my ability to do that

[00:16:59] in a really hot moment when millions of people were laser focused on this some of you have said

[00:17:05] i must have been blocked by somebody yeah well that is exactly why i don't take any corporate pack

[00:17:10] money not from tiktok not from meta not from any corporation that doesn't change the fact that i

[00:17:16] screwed this up i did i apologize how and i will keep you posted that was it so how how do you screw

[00:17:25] up by simply stating why you were voting for the bill you said it very clearly i don't think this is

[00:17:30] a ban they're doing some some crazy stuff with your data commie party blah blah blah like i don't

[00:17:41] apologizing you have nothing to apologize for he has nothing to apologize for

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[00:18:31] the lights go out let me see here i just saw some yeah okay because i just saw we were talking about this

[00:18:38] tiktok bin and i just saw right up in the video clip and i have not i just saw it so i have not

[00:18:47] yeah i don't know if it's uh

[00:18:52] yeah i'm not sure on how awesome of a sound bite it's going to be but this is

[00:18:56] uh representative galagher so i guess that's what my galagher i think is his name um

[00:19:02] um and he was on face the nation and he is describing the malign influence that tiktok wields over its users

[00:19:12] and he says look at the pop up notification that it forced on millions of users which resulted in kids

[00:19:21] calling lawmakers to tell them don't don't ban my tiktok that's what happened

[00:19:30] last week or whenever was that's what happened that's what whipped up the outrage mob against

[00:19:36] Jeff Jackson and that's what got him to cave as well all of the backlash that tiktok aka

[00:19:44] the communist party of china was able to unleash on american lawmakers

[00:19:51] here's congressman galagher and tiktok's own behavior in the last month look at the pop up notification

[00:19:57] they forced on millions of users that resulted in kids calling with school bells in the background

[00:20:03] saying you know if you don't if you don't rescind this bill i'm going to kill myself that's just a

[00:20:08] taste of how this app could be weaponized imagine a more consequential about going forward about

[00:20:12] an authorizing force to defend tywan or altering permanent normal trade relation status with china

[00:20:17] that's the risk we're trying to guard against so think about that now

[00:20:23] you've got kids now whether or not those kids are actually suicidal or not right i don't know i

[00:20:29] probably believe that's the case they probably just said it because kids exaggerate kids lie

[00:20:35] they know you know these are the things that you can say to make adults you know snap too and do what you want

[00:20:44] but what you have now is a real world example in real time of

[00:20:52] of beijing having a certain uh as sonny rite calls it a certain preferred policy and when that

[00:21:01] was threatened tiktok then unleashes hordes of american children to threaten to kill themselves if

[00:21:10] beijing doesn't get its way what do you think happens if trump confronts china on trade

[00:21:22] i think this is the problem this is the problem though the weaponization of these platforms in the

[00:21:30] hands of a foreign adversary that has uh interests that are in direct conflict with american

[00:21:37] interests so jeff jackson congressman from north carolina by the way here's my concern

[00:21:46] is it jeff jackson he's he's not going to be in congress much longer okay

[00:21:50] they did the redistricting maps and as he said i'm toast so he's out he's not going to win his seats

[00:21:56] knowing he's not going to win his seat based on the drawing of the lines he ran for and won the

[00:22:03] democrat nomination for north carolina attorney general he is running against dan bishops by the way

[00:22:09] dan bishops voted against this bill is dan bishops view on this bill is concern it is rooted in a

[00:22:17] concern that it's going to be used by democrats by bureaucrats by the quote deep state in order to

[00:22:24] de platform americans so basically he's got a similar position regarding the american government

[00:22:33] misusing it and the chinese government misusing it the the the the platform or the law

[00:22:39] so he doesn't want to give the american government let alone a single president more control over

[00:22:44] censorship of social media platforms and determining what is fake news and what is not because as

[00:22:50] we are like today the supreme court heard these arguments on this very matter as to whether

[00:22:55] the social media platforms got pressured by the bina administration in an unconstitutional manner

[00:23:02] to throttle and censor stories which of course they did the underbinding laptop is the

[00:23:08] the prime example of it of course they did we have the evidence that they did

[00:23:13] right it was that from uh what matt taebi and michael shellenberger and berry wise uh... the twitter

[00:23:21] files that did not mean to completely terrify the producer who was not aware it's john well because

[00:23:32] john john more has not been doing the uh the show when the when the original release of the twitter

[00:23:38] files occur

[00:23:43] that's good though let you know your heart still works is to get the

[00:23:47] whoo and if you think if you don't if you don't work in radio or tv probably but definitely radio

[00:23:54] if you don't work radio you don't know what that feeling is like unless you live it which is where

[00:24:02] you think all as well you're just kind of drifting along on the you know just the calm seas

[00:24:09] and then somebody says something like the twitter files

[00:24:14] and that freaks you out

[00:24:17] you're like oh my god what is this music firing because he didn't know right because he wasn't

[00:24:22] here with the original launch of the branding campaign for the twitter files

[00:24:31] i never did anything with it either i feel like it was a kind of a wasted campaign

[00:24:36] yeah oh well uh gary says it sounds like congressman jef jackson is saying tiktok acts like the

[00:24:43] democrat party and just spreads misinformation uh on things like voter id or anything else

[00:24:49] well yeah that's a and that's kind of the problem i've got here is it

[00:24:52] jef jackson wants to be the attorney general the top cop in north carolina

[00:24:57] and he just caved to commenters on tiktok

[00:25:06] this guy does not need to be in charge of prosecutorial decisions if this is how you're going

[00:25:12] to behave right when you when you come out and you're like this is my view on the bill

[00:25:18] and by the way it doesn't sound like he changed his view on the bill all he's do all he did in that

[00:25:23] second video was to say that he apologized because basically i didn't read the room right please

[00:25:33] if you didn't understand that you're talking like to a bunch of self-absorbed narcissists on tiktok

[00:25:39] that are like 14 years old and about to run the world i don't know what to tell you man

[00:25:43] like that's the platform and the communist sorry also the communist but still you caved

[00:25:49] and they and they started accusing you of doing it because you you were you got sold out

[00:25:55] to the Jewish people to israel this is the mental derangement and you caved so no that this is

[00:26:03] disqualifying disqualifying to be north carolina attorney general maybe some other position

[00:26:09] that's out there you could do like go back to state lawmaker status or something like you could be one

[00:26:14] of you know a body of a hundred and that's fine but no you don't get to be the top cop

[00:26:20] you don't get to be you know focusing on the law enforcement of the state of north carolina i don't

[00:26:26] think if this is the way you're going to behave when a bunch of uh uh you know rowdy preteens

[00:26:31] comachi in the comments section come on man to quote Joe Biden all right so i mentioned this one

[00:26:37] earlier so i got to pay it off rich lowery at national review headline fanny willis is the resistance

[00:26:45] we have seen her like before we should know fanny willis by now in her desperately flawed case

[00:26:52] against donald trump in her sense of umbridge when caught engaging and flagrantly unprofessional conduct

[00:27:01] in her dishonesty and in her willingness to smear her critics the district attorney of

[00:27:07] fulton county georgia is a perfect representative of the resistance

[00:27:13] we have seen similar figures come and go across the past eight years of warfare over donald trump

[00:27:20] they are typically current or former law enforcement or intelligence officials

[00:27:26] that is true right there's like uh there's like an archetype law enforcement or intelligence officials

[00:27:41] and they've got this belief that they are so right and so righteous right i'm doing this thing to

[00:27:47] save the democracy or as peter struck said no we won't let it happen we won't let that happen

[00:27:55] and then when caught and asked about the text message with leesa page that he was

[00:28:02] stupin having an illegal affair well it was against their code it's not really illegal but it was

[00:28:10] against you know like the rules inside the FBI anyway um and when she's like oh my gosh i'm so

[00:28:15] afraid donald trump is going to win we won't let that happen and when asked about what did you mean by

[00:28:22] we won't let that happen could it be the whole russian collusion hoax the steel dossier all of

[00:28:27] that stuff could have been related to that all that all those lies you were pushing no no no

[00:28:34] that's not the insurance policy he was talking about the insurance policy he was talking about was what

[00:28:39] what did he say the voters

[00:28:42] oops

[00:28:46] nah no that is not what he was talking about

[00:28:51] only a moron would believe that all right back to fanny willis um they often end up

[00:28:57] disgracing themselves in the process although not usually as spectacularly as fanny has

[00:29:03] um her case against trump is a classic resistance operation with the same dna as almost all

[00:29:10] the investigations and indictments running through the russia hoax to the j6 case the common thread

[00:29:16] is the stretching of investigative and prosecutorial powers to the breaking point or beyond

[00:29:24] the breaking point all on the assumption that whatever the facts whatever the rules whatever

[00:29:31] the law trump is guilty or at the very least he deserves what he gets even if you can't show

[00:29:40] that he's guilty we just know it and even if he really isn't guilty he is innocent of the thing

[00:29:44] we're accusing of it doesn't matter because he freaking deserves it anyway right willis used

[00:29:51] Georgia's rico statute

[00:29:55] to portray trump and his supporters as some sort of a criminal enterprise but

[00:30:02] his post election pressure campaign was not actually a crime

[00:30:08] they there's no crime that they that they violated now you could say it was shameful he should have

[00:30:13] done it it was blowing up standards and norms and all of that you can make all of those arguments if

[00:30:18] you would like that does not mean it violated the law at the hearing when she took the stand remember

[00:30:26] she was angry and she was angry because she got caught she exposed herself

[00:30:32] and I agree with this assessment as a thoroughly unimpressive hack who should not be anywhere near

[00:30:40] public power and when she was pressed on the consequential question of when her relationship with Nathan

[00:30:49] Wade began because that was the key in the case when did the relationship begin she simply lied

[00:30:57] that was it and then right her first instinct when the affair became public was first to play

[00:31:02] the race card right she went to the church she said anybody that's criticizing her and Nathan

[00:31:10] Wade that they're doing it because their white and she's black and Nathan Wade is black they're

[00:31:14] coming after us because we're black that was the first thing she did then on the stand she lies

[00:31:19] about when it started everybody in that courtroom knew everybody knew when the when the relationship

[00:31:24] started that witnesses that said it oh but you couldn't prove it why because oh she paid

[00:31:29] everything back in cash hmm convenient almost as if she was trying to hide the crime see the standards

[00:31:38] don't apply to the people who insist they are applying the standards that's the only standard

[00:31:44] here that the standards don't apply to the people who insist that they're applying the standards

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