JD Hayworth Fills in for Pete Kaliner (07/05/2024 Hour 3)

[00:00:00] Continuing to see what's happening today, I don't know if it's your priority, but those of us who monitor politics, well it's often occupationally related, we're going to see what kind of interview shows up tonight on ABC News with ABC News Senior Anchor George Stephanopoulos.

[00:00:25] Old George, you know, if you have any doubts about just how far to the left the networks lurch, let's just take the case of old George.

[00:00:39] There was George, one of the confidants of Bill Clinton, initially going to be the press secretary, but they moved him up and gave a lady the job, Dede Meyers.

[00:00:55] And then old George, showing that he had the skills of his boss. When I got to Congress there was a big stink about the Clintons and whitewater and favorable treatment on land deals.

[00:01:13] So George was brought down to a congressional committee and asked, Mr. Stephanopoulos, are you keeping a diary of your days in the White House? I know, Congressman, I'm not. Well, old George leaves government service and he puts together a book based on day-to-day recollections.

[00:01:37] But he had learned well from old Bill Clinton. Yeah, what he did was, he couldn't quite get Bill's voice. But he went and said, I did not have a diary. I testified truthfully to the congressional committee.

[00:01:53] But each night I would return home and recount for a third party what had transpired that day. So I wasn't keeping a diary. A friend was chronicling my daily impressions of what had gone on. Yes, those kinds of machinations are always very interesting when they happen in politics.

[00:02:21] And Bill Clinton and Clintonese, the art of the lawyerly evasion. I lamented it earlier in talking about motor voter. Here is what you need to know about the efforts to have non-citizens vote.

[00:02:45] Prior to the pandemic of a few years ago, the standard mindset in the American left was espoused. You can still find this on the website NBCNews.com. Because an interesting group of left-leaning folks, the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism at Arizona State University.

[00:03:21] And it's worth remembering that at least out here, ASU is USA spelled backwards. Not talking about the fine folks in Boone. My old buddy Howard Coble who represented the 6th District of North Carolina said, you know, I don't go to the beach.

[00:03:38] I like to go to the mountains. Like the cool country. Howard said, I was up in Boone and I went at breakfast. There was a little gal up there waiting at the table.

[00:03:49] She had a shirt on that said ASU. And so I think I'm going to be a smart aleck. So I say to her, how are things out there in Tempe? And she said, well, you know, I just moved here from Arizona. So I think they're still pretty hot.

[00:04:06] Oh, by the way, for the records, as all of Metrolina is enveloped in temperatures in the high 90s, tickling triple digits. Out here today in the Southwest, in the Sonoran Desert, we may be looking at about 116. Ah yes, central air conditioning. Glad we got it.

[00:04:33] And I've heard from my pals back home in North Carolina, they tell me that it's like the early summer. You went straight from like the end of May to August like weather. And that's the way it is too out here in the desert.

[00:04:54] Typically June you have triple digits. Yes, but you have single digit humidity. Oh, Bob Effish from down there in Lillington was in Congress with me. And one day he asked me, he says, I just dry heat out there, JD.

[00:05:08] And I explained it to him. He said, oh, OK, yeah, well, I guess my oven's got dry heat, but I don't stick my head in it. And I said, Bob, we can come to a bipartisan agreement.

[00:05:22] I agree with the assessment of the former Democratic member of Congress from down there in Lillington, down east. Ah, so yeah, things are heating up and they're heating up. The with apologies to the 1970s dramedy that appeared on ABC, Teresa Graves starring in Get Out.

[00:05:49] Teresa Graves starring in Get Christy Love. There is now a reality series, Get Joe Biden. And I mentioned George Stephanopoulos a couple of minutes ago.

[00:06:01] Now, senior anchor of ABC News, he went and got the title when that when that pretty boy, David Manure Muir got the gig as the anchor on World News Tonight. So George goes in and huffs and puffs in his age.

[00:06:15] Oh, you're sure, George, you're your ABC News senior anchor. The talk I'm hearing from some of my Dem friends is that it is going to fall to George in this recorded interview to gently, when possible, show its show to Joe Biden and America.

[00:06:39] It's time for Joe to go. Well, a couple of things about George doing that. Number one, the interview is going to be recorded rather than live. And number two, what happened last week was pretty darn bad.

[00:06:57] If if that's not our road map to replacement, well, I don't know what is. Chris checks in via email.

[00:07:06] And I will share that with you right now as I grab Jan computer and do the things I need to do to open this a little, a little more completely for the old boy to share. J.D., if Biden drops out, what will it take to replace him?

[00:07:24] What is the process and is it possible? For the Dems to replace Biden? Chris, dear Chris, you ask a question that I will answer incisively, if not encyclopedically in mere moments.

[00:07:46] But right now, the guy that we really haven't heard a lot from since the debate, Donald Johnson, is going to be replaced. By a guy named Don Trump.

[00:08:02] The advice in politics is when when you know your your opponent is making a mess for himself or those on his team are making a mess for him, you just try to stay out of the way. And by and large, Donald Trump had followed that advice.

[00:08:20] But he loves to play golf. And from the looks of the video on a surreptitiously recorded cell phone video thing, President Trump was out with his youngest and tallest boy, who's now what, six, eight? The guy just finished high school. Anyway, they were out.

[00:08:44] President Trump and young six, eight baron were out and he encounters some guys. I guess he was maybe involved in the skins game and somebody kind of comes up and I guess they get that phone out and they they get it recording.

[00:09:00] And so the president engages in conversation. I guess you could say President Trump offers an unvarnished assessment of the situation in which the Dems find themselves. And it has been now something that the lefties have railed about. But, well, this is Trump being Trump.

[00:09:24] And let's listen together to clip eight. How did I do with the debate the other night? You know, broken down. Yeah, it's a bad guy. He just quit. You know, he's quitting the rest. Is that right? Yep.

[00:09:37] I got him out of the way. And that means we have Kamala. I think she's going to be better. She's so bad. So pathetic. So there is the unvarnished assessment. And from pathetic to prophetic is is there. Look, Kamala has faced some challenges.

[00:10:00] Word salad among the things like, well, in Charlotte, what was that a couple of weeks ago? There's supposed to be a big conference for black entrepreneurs and Kamala makes it about and she gets that voice and she talks about, yes, there are monies available.

[00:10:23] But a lot of black businessmen don't want to don't want to apply for the fear of rejection. What are you talking about, Madam Vice President? If you are an entrepreneur, I don't care. White, black, yellow, red. It's about the green.

[00:10:48] It's about money. Also, it's about if you're an entrepreneur and you're going into business, what is it, Brother John, since we're in radio, the great guys in sales, what do they always tell us? Well, no, is the first response on the way to yes.

[00:11:09] That's right. You got to have persistence. Another little note. And you may recall me sharing it with you when I was in Congress and part of leadership and we were part of we called ourselves immodestly the majority makers, the first Republican majority in 40 years.

[00:11:29] Longer than I had been alive at that point because I was elected at age 36. Anyway, Thursdays, we'd have lunch with Newt. And Newt, in addition to being a smart politician, was one heck of a historian. So we sit and one day we're talking.

[00:11:43] And I say, Mr. Speaker, what made Reagan, Reagan? He said, you know, J.D., in retrospect, it's cheerful persistence. And Reagan had cheerful persistence. He stayed at it.

[00:12:02] And I think a whole lot of people far away from the roar of the grease paint and the smell of the crowd, if you're in business. And you've got a dream and you're an entrepreneur again, wherever you're from, whatever your ethnic or racial background.

[00:12:20] You got a chance to get a low interest loan. You there's no impediment. You're not going to call out of fear or rejection. Heck, if you're in business, rejection is part of it.

[00:12:33] And that's a polite story for the stuff that Kamala puts out most of the time, which is just weird word salad. Now to the note, the request from Chris that came to us in that email. So what do the Dems do? Yeah, the news is now coming out.

[00:12:56] It's not a surprise to me, but everybody thought that Michelle Obama would step in here. Her staff is again saying no. Well, why the heck should she? All the dough in the world. I look up and there is as I'm watching television coverage. There's the smiling cobra.

[00:13:17] California Governor Gruesome Grant Newsom. And of course, he was in Michigan yesterday. He's in Pennsylvania today. But the bottom line is the most direct way to get this done is with invoking the 25th Amendment. Because Joe has trouble right now. I mean, let's be honest about it.

[00:13:43] Now look, do we want to see a President Harris? I don't because number one, she has the powers of incumbency. Number two, she will coax back a lot of women who may not admit it, but kind of have a ya-ya sisterhood thing going.

[00:14:00] What Hillary was counting on that did not come to pass. So a lot of it is going to come back to her. So a lot of independent women voters. But the core constituency of today's Democrat Party is women of color. Listen to Attorney Areva Martin.

[00:14:17] She was on with Stephen A. Smith. I guess he's got a non-sports thing going that he's getting paid for. And she flat out says, don't you even think that you're going to get a woman of color.

[00:14:31] She says, don't you even think Democrats and especially white men, beta male Dems. Don't you even think about anybody else but Kamala. Cut nine. You pick a white man over Kamala Harris, black women, I can tell you this, we're going to walk away.

[00:14:53] We're going to blow the party up. If you pick the black woman. What are you going to walk away to Areva? You're going to walk away to Trump. You're going to pick somebody over Kamala Harris.

[00:15:03] So where are we getting agreement from on who this ideal Democratic candidate should be? Tell me that. Yeah, well you're not getting that. What we are finding and Kamala's people such as they are, those who've kept their jobs for two successive months.

[00:15:21] Man, she goes through staffers like, how to say this politely for a family show. Like patootle through a goose recovering United States Congressman J.D. Hayworth of Arizona in real life. An old boy from High Point honored to be back here on News Talk 1110 99 3 WBT.

[00:15:42] And you've been waiting patiently on the phones about time to check out who's there. 704-570-1110 1-800-928-1110 from over in Fort Mill. Ron, welcome to the broadcast. Hey, how you doing? Hey, I'm fine. Ron. What's on your mind? I was curious, you know, I'm 54 years old.

[00:16:07] Was there a thing back in the day when Carter wasn't doing well where they were going to replace him at all? Because they knew he was going to lose. Well, no, they actually didn't. Let me just take polite exception because I was a politicized, sentient being in 1980.

[00:16:31] Confession time as an upwardly mobile Republican. One of my professors of political science at NC State knew John Anderson, who at the time was running for the Republican nomination. And I, I, John Anderson reached out to me.

[00:16:49] I ended up being his statewide coordinator for media and actually supported Anderson because he asked me. Now, I was back in the Republican column with President Reagan. There was no question after his performance in office that he was the guy who belonged there.

[00:17:08] But I can recall the way the networks played stuff. The polling the networks were using prior to election night on 19 and 1980 had this thing as a horse race. But understand polling and also pulling numbers, ratings, you know, the whole idea is to have a cliffhanger.

[00:17:33] Carter, in retrospect, we see him losing because of stagflation and everything else that was going on there. But the polling, Jody Powell, his press secretary admitted it in a later book, their internal polling showed the night before the election, Jimmy Carter was going to lose decisively.

[00:17:58] So what adds to your memory of the inevitability of Carter losing that election was to the great consternation of his fellow Democrats.

[00:18:10] He conceded at, I think, prior to 8 p.m. Eastern time, which meant that all the guys out West who were trying to hang on to their seats, a lot of Democrats lost the incentive to vote.

[00:18:27] Which may have helped Republicans. I think of Steve Sims winning in Idaho, beating a longtime liberal Frank Church. Heck, I think even in Iowa when Chuck Grassley won that seat and Chuck is still there, he's running for re-election.

[00:18:44] So a lot of that went on. But I will tell you that the pressure on these guys now has developed because there is such a coziness between the media and the Democrat Party.

[00:19:01] In fact, many of us believe White House reporters for most news organizations are pretty much stenographers for a Democrat president. So that's what I think is going on. And I think the media has to play a role and take a blame in this stuff.

[00:19:19] But your perceptions, if you want to correct the record from your viewpoint, I'm happy to hear it. I don't know this for a fact, so I want you to tell me. How many states did Reagan win against Carter? And did he win 49 against Mondale?

[00:19:41] He won 49 against Mondale. Electorally, and the key thing for Anderson was to get his 7% for matching federal funds with his independent race. But Reagan won what we would call an electoral landslide. It was not as convincing. 1984 was just the standard.

[00:20:07] I cannot remember the exact vote total, but it was a landslide victory for Reagan. Republicans were swept into a majority status in the Senate, which they lost in 1986 and did not regain until 1994, when finally we were able to win the House.

[00:20:31] And I can say we because my name was on the ballot and I won along with Lindsey Graham and some other guys. So that was the circumstance. It was a decisive vote. And really, in retrospect, it came down to Reagan in the debate.

[00:20:49] Are you better off today than you were four years ago? If you are, well, you have your choice there. And he nodded at Carter. But for so many people, things are not better.

[00:21:01] And that clinched it. That and President Carter trying to reinforce the whole notion that Reagan was going to be some sort of nuclear warmonger.

[00:21:15] The stuff they used on Barry Goldwater in 64, they tried to use. I can remember just even though I was working for Anderson, it made my blood boil.

[00:21:27] I remember Steve Martin one night on Saturday Night Live. You have to understand that Ronald Reagan will be a nuclear gunslinger and all this stuff. But it didn't happen that way. And people were persuaded to vote for Reagan.

[00:21:44] What Carter said that he was talking to his young daughter, Amy, who I think by that time had started junior high and asked what was on her mind.

[00:21:53] And her greatest concern was the outbreak of thermonuclear war. It didn't work for Jimmy Carter the way that one daisy spot worked on NBC Monday Night at the Movies for LBJ against Barry Goldwater.

[00:22:13] Couldn't pull it again because things were too bad. And that's the comparison, really, Ron, when you think about it. Today's economy is so bad. When you got the Biden guys bragging about gas prices coming down by a penny.

[00:22:29] When anybody who checks understands they have been raiding the strategic petroleum reserve to try and alleviate shortages brought on. And when you take a look at what happens both with government spending and when you increase the costs for available energy, you guarantee an economic slowdown.

[00:22:55] And I guess the question is going to be in the minds of independent voters. And when you're a Republican, you always hear, hey, you got it. You got to watch it.

[00:23:05] You know, you get that gender gap. The women will go another direction. So you got to watch out for those soccer moms. But I do not believe maybe I'm wrong, but I think conditions at home and higher prices.

[00:23:20] And where we are in the world and all the trouble with the erasure of the southern border, things are bad.

[00:23:30] And I just don't believe that the Democrats gambit that they're going to pin it all on abortion when every state, the new court ruling from a couple of years ago was states will decide.

[00:23:44] I can't believe that's going to turn the election, but that's about the only horse the Dems have to ride. Hey, thanks for calling, Ron. I appreciate that.

[00:23:54] J.D. here for the rest of Pete Callender's show. And to be fair to Chris, who emailed me, JD at MoneyRadio.com. JD, if Biden drops out, what will it take to replace him? What is the process and is it possible for the Dems to replace him?

[00:24:13] Last question first. Yes, it is possible. It is not easy. And one of the problems, if they decide to do this completely as a political operation, it's going to be pretty tough. Because as the laws are written, at least four of the swing states,

[00:24:36] if Biden is essentially forced out, as I understand it, his name cannot appear on the ballot. That's some of the early reporting on that. But there is a constitutional way, the 25th Amendment.

[00:24:54] Now, last night you saw Kamala right there, she and the second gentleman, Doug Emhoff, up there with Joe and Dr. Jill, looking at the fireworks and one big happy family. But the Dems are panicking. They want to get rid of Joe.

[00:25:13] And I will tell you, the irony of having a party named Democrat or Democratic, very rarely does it deal with democracy. In New Jersey, when Bob Torricelli had that Senate seat and he had some trouble. And hey, look, I date Bianca Jagger. I got some showbiz cachet.

[00:25:34] They said, no, we got to get him out because the Republicans about to win. So Bob Torricelli had to walk the plank and they brought back Frank Lautenberg to go in place.

[00:25:47] They do that in 72. Tom Eagleton, the senator from Missouri, the colonist Jack Anderson, revealed back in the year 72 that Tom Eagleton had undergone shock treatments for mental illness, for depression. He was done. The Democrats called emergency meetings and George McGovern picked Sergeant Shriver.

[00:26:17] Didn't work out too well. Nixon won more popular votes than anybody else in history that year, but he lost Massachusetts and also the District of Columbia.

[00:26:33] The question is, and Republican Congressman Chip Roy brought it up, he wants to bring up Kamala on charges of lying because these people have abandoned what it is they're supposed to do.

[00:26:49] And short term, it's what the Democrats and the press, but I repeat myself, were saying should have gone on with Trump. And he went and he took his cognitive test and there was no trouble. Section four of the 25th Amendment.

[00:27:04] Whenever the vice president and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide transmit to the president pro tem of the Senate and Speaker of the House,

[00:27:19] their written declaration that the president is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the vice president shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as acting president.

[00:27:34] Thereafter, when the president transmits to the president pro tem of the Senate and Speaker of the House in a written delegation that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the vice president, a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide.

[00:27:58] Transmit within four days to the president pro tem of the Senate and Speaker of the House, their written declaration that the president is unable to discharge the powers of his office. Thereupon, Congress shall decide the issue assembling within 48 hours for that purpose, if not in session.

[00:28:17] If the Congress within 21 days after receipt of the latter declaration or if Congress is not in session within 21 days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two thirds vote of both houses that the president is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.

[00:28:35] The vice president shall continue to discharge the same as acting president. Otherwise, the president shall resume the powers and duties of his office. So that's a lot there. The simplest thing is for the party leaders to say, hey, Joe, you had a good run and we'll canonize you.

[00:28:57] We will lionize you. You got rid of Trump. You can continue to bad mouth him. But we got to move on. And the simplest way to handle it.

[00:29:07] And we've heard Jim Clyburn, the gentleman from South Carolina, kind of the kingmaker there in South Carolina for black Democrat voters saying, you know. Camilla's got it would have to be the candidate and we should have like a mini primary for vice president at the convention.

[00:29:25] Which leads us to a situation where if Joe Biden were to resign and Camilla was to become president, what happens there? What's that dog food over there at Walmart? Oh, Roy. Call to Roy Cooper. I think electoral politics.

[00:29:46] I thought they might go with with the young governor of Kentucky, Bashir. But North Carolina is a swing state. If Camilla were to become president, I got to tell you, it doesn't bring me joy. But Elfin Roy, people don't remember evil Roy Slade.

[00:30:06] That's why I call Cooper that name. The John Astin character, one of the great comic villains of unsuccessful sitcom TV. So Elfin Roy Cooper is probably gearing up for the spot is number two. That's why there is a spring in his step.

[00:30:26] Now, the press that stayed away from this thing suddenly is is talking about what they've seen and what they've done. The the young Turk literally, Jink Uyghur. He does a video blog. He talks about the column by Olivia Nuzzi in the Intelligencer, Intelligencer portion of New York magazine.

[00:30:52] Take a listen to this cut. So Olivia Nuzzi has a amazing article on the intelligence service. She's talking about all these interactions with Biden donors, reporters, etc. They did a guessing game by the end of the one of the interactions. What percentage dead is he?

[00:31:09] Oh, and they landed on a consensus of 40 percent dead. Now that's the press and big donors and the Democrats. But I repeat myself, their parlor game is saying based on body temperature, handshake and whatever else, Joe's 40 percent gone. Now understand those are not mean old conservatives.

[00:31:32] They are card carrying members. Well, maybe not card carrying, but they're part members in good standing of the lefty media, dim, glitter, rotty and money folks. They're the ones saying this. The fact is, the fourth estate is going to want to claim the fifth and blame somebody else.

[00:31:53] Let me take you back before we go. This is what, three weeks ago, like June 18th. One of the White House reporters feeding Kareem Jean-Pierre Biden's press flack, the attack line for fake, fake pictures. Take a listen to Cut Eleven.

[00:32:12] There seems to be a sort of rash of videos that have been exited to make the president appear especially frail or mentally confused. I'm wondering if the White House is especially worried about the fact that this appears to be a pattern that we're seeing more of.

[00:32:28] Yeah, and I think you all have called this the cheap fakes video. And that's exactly what they are. They are cheap fakes video. They are done in bad faith.

[00:32:37] And some of your news organization have been very clear, have stressed that these right wing, the white wing critics of the president have a credibility problem. Because of the fact checkers have repeatedly caught them pushing misinformation, disinformation.

[00:32:53] That's what they say. When they disagree with something, it's misinformation, it's disinformation. The Wall Street Journal, editorially they've been open border pimps through the years. But in terms of reporting, they put this out, what a month ago and they were vilified. Old Joe is probably going to go.

[00:33:11] And I am for now. Stay brave, stay free. Stay tuned and thanks for listening.