It's OK to say stay-at-home moms can be fulfilled (05-17-2024--Hour2)

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[00:00:29] It's okay for somebody to occasionally give voice to a perspective with which you disagree.

[00:00:37] That's okay.

[00:00:38] Now, I'm allowed to argue against it.

[00:00:41] Oh, sure you are.

[00:00:42] You absolutely are.

[00:00:43] But that doesn't make the person who said it a hater, a misogynist or anything like

[00:00:49] that.

[00:00:51] The wheel of outrage has spun around and it has landed on Harrison Butker, the kicker

[00:00:57] for the Kansas City Chiefs.

[00:01:01] Because I've been calling it this for 20 years, the Salem witchification of America has to

[00:01:06] do with cancel culture, which write all of the accusations that you lob at people in

[00:01:10] order to excommunicate.

[00:01:14] And of course, when we did the interview with Bill O'Reilly a couple of months back about

[00:01:18] his book, Killing the Witches, that documented the horrors of the Salem witch trials.

[00:01:25] And it's not just in Salem, it was all over that area of the New England state, Connecticut

[00:01:31] and Rhode Island and whatnot.

[00:01:34] The horrors.

[00:01:36] And also spread by a bunch of lying little girls.

[00:01:42] That's where all that came from.

[00:01:44] That derived power by accusing others.

[00:01:49] This sociopathic, antisocial behavior has manifested in these young women, these young

[00:01:59] girls.

[00:02:02] For a modern day example, have you seen the video out of Congress?

[00:02:05] I'm not going to play the video of Marjorie Taylor Greene and AOC and Crockett, I don't

[00:02:13] know, Yvette or Yvonne, I forget her first name.

[00:02:19] I was having a go on the mornings up in Raleigh and Greensboro, I talked with KCO Days, the

[00:02:25] morning guy up there on Fridays, and we were talking about this thing.

[00:02:29] You've heard me say it before here, which is they're members of Congress and they really

[00:02:33] are our representatives.

[00:02:35] They truly are.

[00:02:36] That is how adult people behave in society at large as well.

[00:02:42] And if you don't believe me, go check out an HOA meeting.

[00:02:47] I kid, I kid.

[00:02:48] Well, okay.

[00:02:49] But seriously, this is how people behave all the time.

[00:02:55] But they should be better than us.

[00:02:57] Really?

[00:02:58] Should they?

[00:02:59] Do we deserve that?

[00:03:03] So Harrison Butger, the kicker for the Chiefs, delivering a commencement address at a Catholic

[00:03:11] school, a Catholic college.

[00:03:13] He is a traditionalist Catholic, a trad cat.

[00:03:18] He is one of the more conservative types of Catholics you will find.

[00:03:22] Big believer in the Latin mass, told the kids go find the Latin mass, spent a good chunk

[00:03:28] of the speech on how awesome the Latin mass is.

[00:03:33] I don't know if that is a very popular strain of thought inside Catholicism.

[00:03:37] I do not.

[00:03:38] But there are enough people that they're obviously doing the Latin mass at different churches

[00:03:42] around the country.

[00:03:43] So obviously there is a bit of a demand for it.

[00:03:47] I got a message here.

[00:03:50] Melissa said that her parents left the Catholic church after Vatican II, pulled my siblings

[00:03:58] out of their Catholic high school when the Latin mass came back in certain areas, they

[00:04:03] went back.

[00:04:04] It's beautiful.

[00:04:05] I love it, she says.

[00:04:08] So here is Harrison Butger.

[00:04:13] I keep wanting to say Butkus or Butner, Butker.

[00:04:21] Here is what he said about women.

[00:04:25] He was speaking to the women.

[00:04:28] Now keep in mind, he divided the women in the audience, the females from the males,

[00:04:35] which is, by the way, just as an aside, I do find it quite illustrative and instructive

[00:04:41] here that all of a sudden Democrats and media, but I repeat myself, now know what women are.

[00:04:47] Because for a long time, it seemed like they were a bit unsure.

[00:04:50] So now they apparently do know what women are and they are telling all of the women

[00:04:56] that they need to be offended because this guy who kicks footballs for a living, this

[00:05:02] guy says that all you women need to be barefoot and pregnant in the house and have no job,

[00:05:09] which of course he doesn't say.

[00:05:11] He divides the female audience into those who are prioritizing careers and those who

[00:05:16] are prioritizing family and being a homemaker, which by the way, it's a home maker, the

[00:05:24] maker of the home, which is the building block upon which this society is founded.

[00:05:29] Just in case people aren't aware, it is the home.

[00:05:32] It's the family.

[00:05:33] Okay, so here is what he says to the ladies.

[00:05:36] Okay.

[00:05:37] For the ladies present today, congratulations on an amazing accomplishment.

[00:05:43] You should be proud of all that you have achieved to this point in your young lives.

[00:05:47] I want to speak directly to you briefly because I think it is you, the women who have had

[00:05:52] the most diabolical lies told to you.

[00:05:54] How many of you are sitting here now about to cross this stage and are thinking about

[00:05:58] all the promotions and titles you are going to get in your career?

[00:06:02] Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess

[00:06:06] that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will

[00:06:10] bring into this world.

[00:06:12] I can tell you that my beautiful wife, Isabel, would be the first to say that her life truly

[00:06:17] started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

[00:06:22] I'm on this stage today and able to be the man I am because I have a wife who leans into

[00:06:27] her vocation.

[00:06:29] I'm beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me, but it cannot be overstated

[00:06:35] that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met in band class back in middle

[00:06:40] school would convert to the faith, become my wife, and embrace one of the most important

[00:06:49] titles of all, homemaker.

[00:06:52] What a misogynist!

[00:06:58] Oh my gosh!

[00:07:01] How dare you?

[00:07:05] Wow, they really hated that line, huh?

[00:07:12] She's the primary educator to our children.

[00:07:14] She's the one who ensures I never let football or my business become a distraction from that

[00:07:19] of a husband and father.

[00:07:21] She's the person that knows me best at my core, and it is through our marriage that,

[00:07:25] Lord willing, we will both attain salvation.

[00:07:29] I say all of this to you because I have seen it firsthand how much happier someone can

[00:07:33] be when they disregard the outside noise and move closer and closer to God's will

[00:07:38] in their life.

[00:07:39] Isabel's dream of having a career might not have come true, but if you asked her today

[00:07:44] if she has any regrets on her decision, she would laugh out loud without hesitation and

[00:07:49] say, heck no.

[00:07:53] That is a perfectly acceptable thing to say.

[00:07:58] It is.

[00:07:59] That doesn't mean you have to agree with it.

[00:08:03] You can think that he's completely misled or he's trying to mislead others, but I get

[00:08:10] the sense he believes it.

[00:08:11] I don't think you get as emotional as he does if the sense of humility is not present.

[00:08:21] He has humbled himself before his wife.

[00:08:24] That's what he's saying there, that she's the one that keeps him on track and he couldn't

[00:08:31] do what he's doing but for her.

[00:08:36] So who really has the power in that relationship?

[00:08:38] Yeah, Russ says, oh wow, you could just hear the hate and disdain he has for women.

[00:08:44] Such toxic masculinity!

[00:08:46] That's right.

[00:08:48] Talking about Harrison Butker's speech that he gave to a Catholic college.

[00:08:53] He is a Catholic.

[00:08:55] People are shocked to learn that a Catholic man has Catholic views and espoused them at

[00:08:59] a Catholic church to fellow Catholics.

[00:09:02] Here is his advice that he gives to the dudes.

[00:09:09] And he gets into, talks a little bit about birth control here and IVF.

[00:09:13] I'm hopeful that these words will be seen as those from a man not much older than you

[00:09:18] who feels it is imperative that this class, this generation, in this time in our society

[00:09:23] must stop pretending that the things we see around us are normal.

[00:09:28] Heterodox ideas abound even within Catholic circles.

[00:09:31] Let's be honest, there is nothing good about playing God with having children.

[00:09:35] Whether that be your ideal number or the perfect time to conceive.

[00:09:38] No matter how you spin it, there is nothing natural about Catholic birth control.

[00:09:43] It is only in the past few years that I have grown encouraged to speak more boldly and

[00:09:46] directly because as I mentioned earlier, I have leaned into my vocation as a husband and

[00:09:51] father and as a man.

[00:09:54] To the gentlemen here today, part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been

[00:09:57] told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities.

[00:10:02] As men, we set the tone of the culture and when that is absent, disorder, dysfunction

[00:10:08] and chaos set in.

[00:10:10] This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around

[00:10:14] the nation.

[00:10:15] Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in

[00:10:19] the US and a correlation could be made in their drastically lower violence rates as well.

[00:10:25] Be unapologetic in your masculinity.

[00:10:28] Fighting against the cultural emasculation of men.

[00:10:30] Do hard things.

[00:10:32] Never settle for what is easy.

[00:10:34] You might have a talent that you do not necessarily enjoy, but if it glorifies God, maybe you

[00:10:38] should lean into that over something that you might think suits you better.

[00:10:42] I speak from experience as an introvert who now finds myself as an amateur public speaker

[00:10:47] and an entrepreneur.

[00:10:49] Something I never thought I would be when I received my industrial engineering degree.

[00:10:54] Yeah, that's definitely not an introvert's degree track.

[00:10:57] Just it reminds me like how can you of the old the old truism that you can tell an extrovert

[00:11:07] accountant because they look at your shoes when they're talking.

[00:11:15] I kid I kid.

[00:11:19] Rich Lowry at National Review responding to this portion of the speech and that's the

[00:11:23] last clip I'll play from it.

[00:11:26] The advice that he had for men was to tell them to be unapologetic in your masculinity

[00:11:31] and to never settle for what is easy to do hard things.

[00:11:36] And he asked is a great question.

[00:11:38] What exactly is the counter to that argument?

[00:11:43] Why would why would people be upset?

[00:11:45] What's the alternative?

[00:11:46] What's the counter that men should be defensive about their masculinity?

[00:11:52] That you should always take the easy way out.

[00:11:54] Don't do anything hard.

[00:11:56] Like what's the counter argument?

[00:11:57] Why are people mad at him for saying that or is it that you don't want to actually articulate

[00:12:02] those things?

[00:12:03] You're just hoping everybody gets that message when you attack somebody for saying be unapologetic

[00:12:10] in your masculinity as men.

[00:12:15] He said we set the tone of the culture that got a lot of people upset too.

[00:12:18] We set the tone of the culture and when that is absent disorder dysfunction and chaos set

[00:12:23] in.

[00:12:24] The absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around

[00:12:28] the nation.

[00:12:30] This this got people upset because oh you don't set the tone of the culture.

[00:12:37] I thought that was the problem though wasn't it?

[00:12:38] Is that the patriarchy?

[00:12:43] So which is it?

[00:12:44] Is it that men set the tone for all of this stuff men are in control of all of this stuff

[00:12:48] or is it that we don't?

[00:12:50] I mean like I don't personally set the tone of the culture.

[00:12:54] I set the tone of my show.

[00:12:58] I don't think you can have that both ways but his point is about the broken homes and

[00:13:03] fatherlessness in the homes and what he's saying is that this is associated with child

[00:13:08] poverty and the studies all show this reduced educational attainment, increased idleness,

[00:13:14] more jail time, greater violence among young men.

[00:13:16] All of the stats are not in your favor and when you have a society that glorifies that

[00:13:22] instead of the alternative then you have a recipe for what he calls disorder, dysfunction

[00:13:31] and chaos.

[00:13:34] Have you looked around recently?

[00:13:39] This is not even a particularly newsworthy statement.

[00:13:45] This has been known for I dare say millennia but also it's been covered in reports like

[00:13:52] the Moynihan report from what the 60s right?

[00:13:56] I referenced this also the Brookings Institute says the same thing, a liberal think tank.

[00:14:01] They come to these same conclusions and here's the thing government can't really fix that.

[00:14:06] They can't.

[00:14:07] It's got to come from where?

[00:14:09] The home.

[00:14:12] And who's going to demand that their men behave in these ways?

[00:14:17] The women.

[00:14:18] So once again, who has the power here?

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[00:15:08] All right, a message here from the Hellion who says this deal with the kicker and the

[00:15:18] teacher that got fired.

[00:15:20] That story we did the other day he had, yesterday I guess it was, he won his lawsuit against

[00:15:27] the Governor's School here in North Carolina when he had done a, it was an elective summer

[00:15:34] seminar on critical race theory in opposition to critical race theory.

[00:15:42] And for that he was fired and he just won a lawsuit against the Governor's School for

[00:15:46] that firing.

[00:15:47] So yes, it is of the same thing.

[00:15:50] It is another example of essentially what is dubbed cancel culture, right?

[00:15:56] It is I'm going to shout you down, I'm going to damage your reputation, I'm going to try

[00:16:01] to harm you in a mean girls matriarchal sort of way, right?

[00:16:06] Because this is how antisocial behavior is on display among women.

[00:16:13] When it's antisocial behavior among men to the most extreme, it is violence.

[00:16:19] We incarcerate them.

[00:16:20] I've talked about this before.

[00:16:23] This is Jordan Peterson's observation that society has determined that no, you don't,

[00:16:28] when men behave in an antisocial way that the far end of that spectrum is violence against

[00:16:33] other people and so we incarcerate you.

[00:16:35] You don't get to behave that way.

[00:16:37] I'm not saying that we incarcerate people for mean girl behavior.

[00:16:40] I'm saying antisocial behavior among women is a different kind of thing and the reputational

[00:16:46] destruction, the slander, like that's part of that side of the antisocial scale.

[00:16:53] So that's what we are witnessing writ large in this society is this, you know, the rising

[00:16:59] up of and the weaponization of like cancellation to destroy people and sometimes for no other

[00:17:06] reason than a perceived view of them, right?

[00:17:12] Or as I mentioned earlier with the Salem witch trials, it could just be that it's fun for

[00:17:18] some people.

[00:17:19] And it's antisocial behavior.

[00:17:21] You know, they're narcissists, they're sociopaths.

[00:17:25] It could be that too.

[00:17:26] Okay.

[00:17:27] I want to get to this audio clip too.

[00:17:30] This is from CNN.

[00:17:32] It looks like well, it's commencement.

[00:17:37] That's Katie Turrer and she has a couple of guys with her at the desk.

[00:17:43] I'll identify them when they speak, but you've now heard the context and the full clips of

[00:17:50] what Buckner or a Butker has said.

[00:17:54] I keep wanting to call them all these different names, but I'm just going to call him Harry.

[00:17:59] What Harry has said or Harrison.

[00:18:01] So you heard the context.

[00:18:02] Now listen to the montage of clips and I'll try to identify when the edits come.

[00:18:08] So you'll hear them.

[00:18:10] This is what they they roll before they then comment on how absolutely terrible this guy's

[00:18:16] comments were.

[00:18:17] It's commencement speech season, and that is, of course, usually an opportunity for

[00:18:22] community leaders to I mean, some of them, let's be honest, some people have lots of

[00:18:26] cliches, but they're usually very heartwarming, you know, shooting for the stars, never give up.

[00:18:31] By the way, she's reading all of this off of a teleprompter and not very well.

[00:18:35] But then there was this one Harrison Bucker, the kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs took

[00:18:39] a different route.

[00:18:40] The three time Super Bowl champ is facing backlash for a speech that he gave at Benedictine

[00:18:45] College over the weekend.

[00:18:46] Watch some of this.

[00:18:48] I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you.

[00:18:53] How many of you are sitting here now about to cross the stage and are thinking about

[00:18:57] all the promotions and titles you're going to get in your career?

[00:19:01] Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess

[00:19:05] that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you

[00:19:09] will bring into this world.

[00:19:11] I'm on the stage today.

[00:19:12] There was an edit right there and able to be the man I am because I have a wife who

[00:19:17] leans into her vocation.

[00:19:20] There was another edit, right?

[00:19:22] They cut out the part where he's getting choked up, talks about how like he.

[00:19:28] He couldn't do anything he does without her, that this is like her calling her vocation

[00:19:32] and that's OK.

[00:19:33] She embraced one of the most important titles of all, homemaker.

[00:19:37] Part of what plagues our.

[00:19:39] So they let that part in that she embraces the most important title of all, homemaker,

[00:19:45] but they robbed it of the context.

[00:19:48] So now it just sounds like he's saying, stay in the home, homemaker woman.

[00:19:52] Our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home

[00:19:57] or in our communities.

[00:19:59] As men, we set the tone of the culture.

[00:20:02] Be unapologetic.

[00:20:03] There was another edit.

[00:20:05] After Tony, you said the tone of the culture.

[00:20:09] Edit in your masculinity, fighting against the cultural emasculation of men.

[00:20:14] And that's it.

[00:20:16] They left out the whole part about fatherlessness and what happens to a society that celebrates

[00:20:21] that a.k.a. disorder chaos.

[00:20:26] So that's how CNN chopped up this audio in order to now get the reaction from the panelists.

[00:20:37] And so she's staring at the camera, furrowed brow in this like, oh, I can't believe it.

[00:20:42] Almost like she's constipated or something just like, oh, I don't know what to make of

[00:20:47] this.

[00:20:48] Oh, my gosh.

[00:20:49] So the NFL put out a statement.

[00:20:51] They said this quote, Harrison Butker gave his speech in his personal capacity.

[00:20:55] His views are not that of an NFL, of the NFL as an organization.

[00:20:59] The NFL is steadfast in our commitment to inclusion, which only makes our league stronger.

[00:21:05] I realize I'm the only woman at this table for the record.

[00:21:08] I don't think any of you are unnecessary.

[00:21:11] Oh, I sighed.

[00:21:15] It has done split open.

[00:21:17] All right.

[00:21:18] So why do you even need a comment from the NFL on this?

[00:21:21] Of course, he's making this speech in his personal capacity.

[00:21:24] Why would the why would you go to his boss and say, well, what do you think about what

[00:21:28] he said?

[00:21:29] Why does it matter what they think, what the organization made up of hundreds, thousands

[00:21:33] of people?

[00:21:34] Right.

[00:21:35] Why would they need to respond to what he said is something that did he say something

[00:21:39] that's, I don't know, wrong.

[00:21:45] Or are you offended that he's speaking to a portion of the population that, oh, by the

[00:21:49] way, just so happens to be a majority of women.

[00:21:54] Very weird, right?

[00:21:55] You don't think we set the tone for culture either?

[00:21:58] Don't ask my wife that question.

[00:21:59] A lot of dudes.

[00:22:00] You know, the thing that's so stunning to me about this is it just feels like such a huge

[00:22:05] step backwards.

[00:22:08] This is Mark McKinnon, former advisor to George W. Bush and John McCain in our culture.

[00:22:14] And I interviewed John Bolton one time and he said something that really struck me, which

[00:22:17] is he said, Mark, there is no arc to history.

[00:22:21] Progress is not guaranteed.

[00:22:23] That's that's what strikes me.

[00:22:24] But, you know, I keep thinking we're so past this and yet here we are again, like in the

[00:22:29] back in the 50s.

[00:22:30] What are you talking about?

[00:22:32] You're a moron.

[00:22:33] Holy cow.

[00:22:34] No wonder McCain lost.

[00:22:35] What are you what are you even saying?

[00:22:37] We're back in the 50s.

[00:22:39] How absurd.

[00:22:40] If we were back in the 50s, we wouldn't have all the fatherless households.

[00:22:44] Duh.

[00:22:45] Let me resume this audio here from CNN.

[00:22:50] Backlash to Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker's speech.

[00:22:54] So you just heard Mark McKinnon's comments like, oh, we're back in the 50s.

[00:22:59] OK, Boomer, take a seat now.

[00:23:03] And then here is a guy named Elliott something.

[00:23:04] Here is why there are people who hold those views in America and no comment.

[00:23:11] Here's a line that also struck me.

[00:23:13] Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[00:23:15] No comment.

[00:23:16] Sir, what the hell do we have you sitting up there for?

[00:23:21] It's literally what you are being paid right now to do.

[00:23:25] It is to comment on this video.

[00:23:28] Right.

[00:23:29] They've got you at the set.

[00:23:30] You're sitting in the chair.

[00:23:32] You got a laptop.

[00:23:33] You got a cup of coffee.

[00:23:34] You got notes and you're like, oh, I'm not even going to comment on that.

[00:23:37] Why wouldn't you comment on it?

[00:23:38] It's obvious you have an opinion about it.

[00:23:40] You're like, oh, like like he's freaking out, like he's having some sort of a seizure

[00:23:45] or something that he he just all locked up.

[00:23:48] Like you could tell he's like viscerally repulsed by anybody who would have this idea

[00:23:53] that women may may feel fulfilled in being a mom.

[00:23:58] Instead of going out and trading their life to work inside a cubicle, making money for

[00:24:04] a bunch of dudes in a corporate boardroom.

[00:24:07] Right.

[00:24:08] How dare you object to that?

[00:24:09] How dare you offer women a different path towards fulfillment that they might actually

[00:24:14] enjoy?

[00:24:15] I'm not saying all women have to see.

[00:24:17] This is the thing about being like libertarian is I'm not telling you how to live your life.

[00:24:23] I tell people when I say you later, Pete, hey, have a good one.

[00:24:26] And I'll say, hey, you know, drive safe or don't.

[00:24:29] I'm not telling you how to live your life.

[00:24:31] I literally tell people that it's up to you.

[00:24:35] I'm going to be along all this abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as growing

[00:24:40] support for degenerative cultural.

[00:24:42] OK, his name is Elliot Williams.

[00:24:45] He's a legal analyst for CNN values.

[00:24:49] And there are people, one linking IVF to euthanasia as on par.

[00:24:58] They are Elliott legal analyst.

[00:25:02] Analyze this.

[00:25:03] These are all teachings of the Catholic Church.

[00:25:06] Putting them on a par because of the same thing, although some people may.

[00:25:10] But all he did was list these different things.

[00:25:13] And these are all teachings of the Catholic Church.

[00:25:16] You don't have to agree with it.

[00:25:18] But a lot of people do.

[00:25:20] Not sure you're aware of this.

[00:25:21] Catholicism is pretty large.

[00:25:24] And two, there are people in that audience, I am certain, even at Benedictine University

[00:25:28] who've had abortions, who have had.

[00:25:32] IVF or whatever else.

[00:25:33] And the idea that he's wagging a finger at them is equally troubling.

[00:25:39] It's not troubling, dude.

[00:25:41] And he wasn't wagging a finger at anybody.

[00:25:45] If he cannot espouse and promote and defend Catholic tenants at a Catholic college, where

[00:25:52] exactly do you expect him to do that?

[00:25:55] I could see if he again went to Vassar, went to Columbia Universe.

[00:25:59] Oh, he wouldn't be up there because they didn't have a commencement address this year for some

[00:26:02] reason.

[00:26:03] Right.

[00:26:04] So it's not like he's going and standing out in front of an abortion clinic screaming at

[00:26:08] people for crying out loud.

[00:26:11] He's talking to people that are of the same faith.

[00:26:14] Yeah, look, I mean, it's kind of a smorgasbord thing.

[00:26:18] Here's Jonah Goldberg.

[00:26:19] Right.

[00:26:20] I mean, he also said that, you know, there's some bill in Congress that would ban the biblical

[00:26:24] explanation about who killed Jesus.

[00:26:25] I mean, there's something for everybody in here right now.

[00:26:29] And, you know, I think it's one of these things where there's a certain sort of there's a

[00:26:35] reactionary kind of pushback that comes up, that bubbles up, that is amplified on social

[00:26:39] media in ways that in the old days it would have been much more difficult to do this kind

[00:26:44] of thing in public.

[00:26:45] Well, it would have stayed with the audience that it was intended for, which I mean, it

[00:26:48] was a conservative Catholic audience.

[00:26:51] And I also do want to say I don't think anyone is saying that at this table is saying that

[00:26:55] people who there's an incredible amount of work that goes into running a household.

[00:26:59] And if that is what you end up doing, that is incredibly it is admirable and it is fine.

[00:27:02] I think the disconnect is that he's giving the speech to a bunch of women who are graduated

[00:27:07] from college about to go out in the world with all of these various opportunities and

[00:27:12] to say to any of them if their if their top goal is not what he says he thinks it is,

[00:27:18] which is getting married and having children, that that's not admirable.

[00:27:23] He didn't say that.

[00:27:24] What do you do?

[00:27:25] You did not watch the speech.

[00:27:27] If all you saw was the clips that your producers put together, selectively edited, then maybe

[00:27:32] that's why Katie Turr has this opinion or motivated reasoning.

[00:27:38] Or simple dishonesty, because she knows what her audience wants to hear.

[00:27:43] She's supposed to play the role of the outraged anchor.

[00:27:46] And so she's going to play that role.

[00:27:48] I just my goodness, people like what do the kids say nowadays?

[00:27:53] Go touch grass.

[00:27:56] Get outside.

[00:27:59] Walk barefoot through the grass.

[00:28:01] Get grounded.

[00:28:02] Put your hands in some dirt and soil, you know?

[00:28:05] Log off for like 15 minutes or so.

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