This episode is presented by Create A Video – Iran reportedly hacked the Trump campaign and leaked the pilfered files to media to hurt Trump's chances at re-election. Also, the show ends with NO published story about Mark Robinson despite rumors swirling for hours.
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[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, thank you so much for your support. We're gonna keep an eye on the CNN because the
[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Rumor Mill has been churning full bore today
[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_00]: started about
[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_00]: 12 noon
[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_00]: a little bit after
[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Rumors swirling about Mark Robinson the lieutenant governor of North Carolina
[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_00]: That there's some big story. It's about to drop and so now the leftist are all
[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, get a Lee talking about what it could be and that's really the fun here is the speculation
[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_00]: about what it might be and it really is a window into their
[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Into their mind
[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_00]: things that they
[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: come up with like wow
[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Your thoughts are pretty perverse, but anyway, we're gonna find out whatever the
[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever the rumors are if they are true because
[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_00]: The latest rumor was that CNN is gonna drop their story today sometime at two and we got it on in the studio
[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't actually see anything about it. So we're gonna keep an eye out
[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_00]: This is rumor watch 2020, 24 we kind of should probably come up with a better
[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Better branding
[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Robinson rumor watch
[00:01:43] No
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I do feel like it has to be like rumor has to be in the
[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Rumors and watch
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll work on it
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_00]: The Associated Press reports
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Iranian hackers sought to interest President Joe Biden's campaign in
[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Information stolen from Donald Trump's campaign
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: They sent unsolicited emails to people associated with the then Democrat candidate
[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and his campaign
[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_00]: In an effort to interfere in the 2024 election
[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Why that almost sounds like collusion to me
[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the standard right that was the standard for Trump that we had there were Russians
[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: They wanted to
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Send a bunch of
[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Hacked stuff we got information we couldn't give to you and all this
[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_00]: See if they had just if they just you know handed it off
[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_00]: through like mark Elias
[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_00]: To the media outlets right then no problem
[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no indication that any of the recipients responded according to these
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: FBI and federal agencies
[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Several media organizations have said they also were approached with stolen material but they did not publish it
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Come see well here's the thing but you read it you know what's in it
[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Which then informs your coverage so even if the stuff never makes it to print as this
[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You know like one of them was the the the vetting
[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Oppo research and stuff on JD events
[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Once you have it now you can pursue the stories on your own and say well we never published what they gave us no but you used it
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: As story generation right story leads
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway Kamala Harris's presidential campaign called the emails from Iran quote unwelcome and unacceptable malicious activity
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That we're totally gonna use I'm just kidding. She didn't say that last part um that we're received
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_00]: By only a few people who regarded them as spam or fishing attempts
[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: The emails were received before the hack of the Trump campaign was publicly acknowledged
[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's no evidence that the recipients of the emails knew their origin
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So they didn't come from you know Iran dot gov or something like that
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: This is called a hack and leak campaign
[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: US officials in recent months have used criminal charges sanctions and public advisories to detail actions taken by
[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Foreign adversaries to try to influence our election including an indictment targeting a covert Russian effort
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: To spread pro Russia content to US audiences this was through the podcasting platforms right
[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Covered that a couple of weeks ago
[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_00]: AP reports it's a stark turn about from the government's response in 2016 when Obama administration officials were criticized for not being forthcoming
[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: About the Russian interference that they were seeing on Trump's behalf as he ran against Democrat Hillary Clinton
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Because did anybody
[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Because wasn't at the first time around oh and also didn't she attempt to with to do a bit of election interference there too
[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't the whole Russian narrative concocked by the Hillary camp?
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's why they didn't divulge it. Hmm, what do you think?
[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think maybe if the Obama administration knew about what was going on in their own DOJ and their own FBI
[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, they knew about the fraudulent steel dossier
[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They knew that it came from the Hillary Clinton campaign
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, they knew it was getting wandered through the the law enforcement agencies in order to help Hillary and hurt Trump
[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They knew all of that and so when you become aware of Russian attempts at interference
[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Then
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you're like oh well, let's not divulge this because
[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We're kind of doing some of the same stuff here and it's Russia and adjacent, you know
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just spit ballin the agencies have said that the Trump campaign hack and an attempted breach of the Biden Harris campaign
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Our part of an effort to undermine voter's faith in the election and to stoke discord. That is correct
[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That is correct
[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter to me at all who Vladimir Putin prefers
[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Wins our election. It doesn't matter to me if it's Trump or Harris. It doesn't matter you know why
[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't care with the guy things. I don't I don't I have no trust in whatever whatever
[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He says what's the first rule of communist everybody together they lie
[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, they lie so why would I care what he has to say like I make light of the fact that he endorsed
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala Harris do I think he actually wants her to win?
[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: The correct answer is I don't care. It doesn't matter to me and it shouldn't matter to anybody else
[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said he and other foreign actors
[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_00]: They do have an interest in making us hate each other
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And if he can say
[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Things like I want Kamala to win and he knows then that that's going to breed
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Distrust and animosity among Americans against Democrats because oh she must be in bed with Putin
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Ew but like that then tells me
[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_00]: That that's the play
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That was the play back with Trump that was the play in the last election cycle. It is always the play
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You cannot trust him they lie
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_00]: The FBI informed Trump's AIDS within the last 48 hours that information hacked by Iran had been sent to the Biden campaign
[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So I am curious because it doesn't say in the article from the associated press what did the what did the Biden campaign do with that
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And did they tell the FBI immediately? They don't
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't say that
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_00]: At least three different news outlets political the New York Times and the Washington Post were leaked
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Confidential material from inside the Trump campaign so far each has refused to reveal any details about what it received
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So they say yes, we got some stuff. No, we're not going to tell you what we got for transparency say obviously
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump campaign national press secretary Caroline Levitt
[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Called the effort to dangle stolen information to the Biden campaign quote further proof
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: The Iranians are actively interfering in the election to help Harris
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Intelligence officials have said that Iran opposed a pose as Donald Trump's reelection because Iran
[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_00]: sees him as more likely to increase tension between Washington and Tehran
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump's administration ended that nuclear deal with Iran
[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: They reimposed sanctions on Iran and Trump ordered the killing of the Iranian general
[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Cussem Solamani and act that prompted Iran's leaders to Valhra venge, which is why they keep trying to assassinate
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Donald Trump too
[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Iran does I not the guy at the golf course and the kid on the roof
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I have not seen any connections to Iran yet, but
[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Iran wants to eliminate Donald Trump
[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We like that is known
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they want revenge on him because he took out Solamani
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So them trying to give stuff to Kamala Harris makes sense
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But again, they're trying to foment
[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Discord and dissension among us
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_00]: The most perilous time I think this is from Microsoft's president Microsoft because like a bunch of these
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_00]: tech companies
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: They went before the Senate Intelligence Committee and they were talking about you know
[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_00]: What they're doing to safeguard the election and the president of Microsoft Brad Smith said quote
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The most perilous time I think will come 48 hours before the election
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And he was talking about their efforts to safeguard the election from foreign disinformation and from cyber attacks
[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So the two days before the election
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I
[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't know if that means the election day or like the 17 months of early voting. I'm not sure
[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But so it may it could be all right we could already be in the 48 hour window
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[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep spreading rumors everybody
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep spreading the rumors mark watch
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_00]: 2020.4
[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that's I thought that sounded better in my mind
[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Mark Robin watch
[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Robinson watch anyway
[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_00]: CNN supposedly the story
[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Was about to was about to run on CNN at two o'clock whatever the story is don't know what the story is
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But there's some story and it's gonna
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna force Mark Roberts and another race even those campaigns like he's not getting out of the race
[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I know what you're talking about
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever it is he's denying it
[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: CNN
[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It's now
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: 224 and
[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_00]: CNN has done all sorts of other stories
[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Over the last 24 minutes now they're talking about
[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Is really defense minister comments on his balla?
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So whatever the whatever the earth's shattering
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Game changing news was supposed to be that was supposed to be a two o'clock
[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You may want to sit down for this the rumors have not born out
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I know if you can't trust well, how speculation on the internet. I mean what is this world coming to?
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even want to live on Twitter if that's the way it's gonna be
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_00]: um
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_00]: All right so
[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_00]: We're monitoring it
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see if anything
[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see if anything comes of it because here's another thing there may not actually be anything to this story
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is all just manufactured
[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That the story isn't even like
[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not even a believable story
[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not even a big deal nobody cares whatever it is they think is some huge thing it actually isn't because when you have the media frenzy
[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That is helping Democrats they feed each other
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So they're just it's like this. They're just working themselves up into a ladder. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I did not sorry
[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not that was not my intent my apologies
[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The FBI and cybersecurity infrastructure security agency did you know this thing existed the cisa or cissa
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: C-i-s-a
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: They put out a press release
[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Regarding the
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Malicious the eronian malicious cyber actors
[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Foreign actors are increasing their election influence activities as we approach November in particular
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Russia
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: China and Iran
[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_00]: They're trying by some measure to exacerbate divisions in US society for their own benefit
[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And they see election periods as moments of vulnerability
[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_00]: The FBI and C-i-s-a
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_00]: cissa
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Encourage campaigns and election infrastructure stakeholders to report information concerning suspicious or criminal activity to their local election crimes coordinators
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: via the FBI field office
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever whatever your local field offices we have one here in Charlotte. So
[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So this was happening right around the same time I guess there was a little bit of an overlap here with
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Robert Malley
[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Robert Malley
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_00]: the State Department's
[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Iran on-voie
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Rob Malley
[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Remember this guy? He had his clearance for
[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You know secret information classified information. He had his clearance suspended
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a slight problem
[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody knew
[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: When they did this
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody knew that it was suspended
[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So they kind of kept talking to him about stuff that was classified and he never told them apparently
[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_00]: His bosses didn't know they were his bosses. That's interesting
[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the inspector general's report has come out on
[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_00]: The State Department's
[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Handling of his clearance suspension and as former State Department advisor on Iran Gabriel Narona
[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Posted on Twitter in a series of
[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Tweets and screenshots from the IG report
[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_00]: He called it mind-boggling
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm reminded of my good friend Brett Winterbill from you can hear him on WBT3 to 7 here
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_00]: He has a line for this which is the system failed
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And as always the excuse when individuals escape accountability
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: For their failures they say it was the systemic failure that the system failed somehow
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[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, root room mark
[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a rumor about mark Robinson room mark
[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Watch all right
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So Brian Anderson formerly of the AP and then of WRAL and now he does a sub stack and he has lifted the paywall
[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_00]: On this story
[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Because there is so much
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Interest in the story and he may be the first one to get something along the lines of a report on it, but it is all based on apparently one source
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's what he writes at his sub stack Anderson alerts dot sub stack dot com
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: North Carolina Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson cancel two campaign events on Thursday scheduled for vans and Warren counties
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_00]: The move came in it. It's actually well
[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It actually would have been yesterday was the anyway, it doesn't matter. Um, oh no, I'm sorry not JD vans
[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But vans county okay, so he had two events but he canceled them and he did not appear with JD vans yesterday
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But we were told that he had COVID
[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_00]: The move came in anticipation of a forthcoming CNN story according to sources familiar with the matter
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't I'd have never known what that means I find it to be a worthless
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_00]: um
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Citation
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Cuz then there's another right after that a source familiar with the matter
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Said the revelations about like they just say a source and just say an anonymous source
[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Why do you even have to say familiar with the matter because I could that could be anything that could be any level of knowledge?
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I- sorry, I just I hate
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Remember this started with with the WMD reporting. That's where all this stuff started
[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Where they started giving you a somebody who's you know
[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_00]: A familiar with the matter a source that's close to it, but not like they give you all these descriptions that don't tell you really anything
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just more words to say it's an anonymous source
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So an anonymous source
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_00]: said the revelations about Robinson include him saying things in online forums
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I
[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't know when I think this would have been
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like 20 years ago
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_00]: about liking
[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Transgender porn
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: peeping inside women's locker rooms while he was a student at in at North Carolina anti-state university
[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and
[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_00]: verbalizing wanting to own slaves and a
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Source familiar with the matter a
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Porter for CNN allegedly working on the story did not respond to a request for comment from
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Ryan Anderson or Brian Anderson, right?
[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Robinson's closest advisors and Robinson himself did not respond to requests for comment
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: No sources were willing to be named
[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: to describe the nature of the story
[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And I've already given you the quote from a spokesman Mike Lonergan from Robinson's campaign who said it's absurd nonsense that he's dropping out
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_00]: There is a part here about the ballot situation the candidates have until 1159 p.m. two night
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: To submit a written notice of withdrawal
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_00]: The state party of the withdrawn candidate so the Republicans could then select a replacement
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But whether that new candidate could get on the ballot isn't open question he says
[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a quote here from Patrick Ganon a spokesman for the state board of elections who says quote
[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: If the party selects a replacement and certifies that name to the state board and ballots have been printed
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Then it would need to be determined whether it is practical to reprint the ballots with the replacement nominees name
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's up in the air and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The state board of elections being controlled by Democrats right now. I don't think they're going to take marks name off the ballot if he even with draws
[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_00]: If the story is even true if this is even an accurate account of what the story might be seeing and still hasn't done their story
[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody sitting around waiting for CNN to do this story
[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't even have confirmation that CNN has a story in the works
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_00]: They may they may not be working on something nobody's identified the reporters so
[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so back to the the nature of the allegation
[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So a source familiar with the matter
[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Say he said things in online forums, okay? What forums?
[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Also I would point out Mark Robinson has a pretty common name that's a pretty common name
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, sure it's the right mark Robinson
[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Just throwing that out there. I would like you know again. I have no idea so he likes so he says in the forum
[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And we are to believe in a serious way not a mocking way right
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: That he likes transgender porn which would make him a hypocrite about the trans issues, right?
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_00]: All of the rumors swirling
[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Are that he has denied any of this. This is all not true. He says and I am always reminded in these situations
[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And I remind others
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Lyndon Baines Johnson when he told his campaign manager to accuse his opponent of sleeping with farm animals
[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And his campaign manager said
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_00]: We can't say that. That's not true and
[00:23:41] his
[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Linda Baines Johnson told his campaign manager
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I know it's not true. I just want to see him deny it
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So when I was a kid my grandpa died with Alzheimer's and before he died my mom and my dad and all of us really
[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Help take care of them as he got progressively worse
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_00]: 40 years ago there were no treatments and not much support for caregivers and family
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Things are different today because of the work are so many people including the Alzheimer's association of Western North Carolina
[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a great organization with awesome people. They've got huge hearts. I've been a supporter for like 25 years
[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_00]: This cause means a lot to me
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I participate in the annual walk to end Alzheimer's and I am leading a Charlotte team this year
[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's called Pete's Pack
[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You can sign up and join the team and walk with me. It's on October 19th at truest field in uptown
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Sign up at alz.org slash walk and then just look for my team
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Pete's Pack and there's also a link in the podcast description here also
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna be emceeing the Gastonia walk on October 5th
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So make a team and join us or make a donation to help me hit my goal
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I would really appreciate it. There are a bunch of other walks around the Carolinas
[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And you can go to alz.org for all of the dates and locations
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_00]: We are closer than ever to stopping Alzheimer's
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you can help us get there we would really appreciate it. Will you come walk with me for a different future for families from more time
[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_00]: For treatments. This is why I walk
[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me jump over and get David on here. Hello David welcome to the program
[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Hello sir. Hey, how are you? Thank you. Great. How you are? Yes, sir
[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I was listening to you on the piece about Mark Robinson
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And of course like you I think I think this is what how you feel as well
[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: This is opicoc because nobody can associate any facts of any kind with it at this point correct
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_02]: So in my view
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Mark Robinson is innocent of all charges
[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And I just wanted to say that everybody who hears this trash
[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Octave with his trash because that's what it is
[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Right if there's no if there's no payout here from CNN or
[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Whoever else is working on the story and stuff like if this turns out to be
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: not reported then because there's nothing to report then
[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Then this came from the Stein campaign
[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: We've gone over that apparently the opal research came from the Stein camp like they should be they should be held accountable
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: for that will they I don't I don't think they will
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I know that this is hard to hold in accountable, but the the way that you mentioned Lyndon Johnson and the lie he told
[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Is a mindset and it has perpetuated all the way through from the time he was doing maybe even before
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And what what we are challenged with is trying to separate
[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Truth and fiction
[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess one one metric for that is this business about a source that's unidentified and
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_02]: No proof anything that they said actually have right and there used to be some some rules
[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I was taught that
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: One named source somebody who goes on the record is something that you as a reporter as a journalist
[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You could you could cite because they're named right?
[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't have named sources then if you're gonna go if you're gonna go to press
[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to have
[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_00]: unrelated
[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Source says that confirm and corroborate each other and they cannot have any knowledge of what the other one has said
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You got to have independent sourcing
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That confirms the information and even then you have to weigh whether or not the story is worth reporting
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to weigh the damage that is done if it's wrong if these people have rolled you as the reporter and it doesn't seem like these
[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Calculations are made anymore. It's just one anonymous source tell somebody something and then you run with it
[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course the social media situation doesn't help us at all with that
[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But I just wanted to
[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Support mark
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_02]: To tell people don't listen to this crap and thank you for
[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Bringing it all out and showing people how to look at it right well this is great service. Well, thanks David
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate it now all of this is subject to change if there is in fact some story that has actual
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Information that can be confirmed or or refuted right that's gonna be
[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: The proof that's where that's where the proof is gonna be like produce the story
[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And then we can all decide David I appreciate the call
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at I'm gonna just saw CNN it's got something as breaking news
[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's about Israel so all of this time
[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody has been focused on CNN that there's something going on there gonna be breaking some big news and
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing
[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_00]: For the last hour nothing
[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I understand the business so I get it deadline slip you're working to confirm stuff
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: The first report was that they were gonna try to get Mark Robinson on CNN where he was going to
[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Denye all of the allegations so maybe that's part of it. I don't know
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know right now
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of benefit
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: being provided to the Democrats
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_00]: With the swirl
[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: That has just completely
[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Overwhelmed all of the political media in this state and outside the state this is getting national attention to you got people that are weighing in from all over the country
[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So and nobody has any information
[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody knows the truth on any of this stuff
[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't even know what the accusation is
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't heard from his camp they haven't denied anything
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's going on the record
[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like so what are we even talking about but I feel like you need to know it and my approach to this is
[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not true until I see some information that that lays out some evidence like number one first thing
[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: What's the allegation
[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody make the allegation make the assertion what is it?
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_00]: They're not we don't even have that maybe we will and then we can ask for evidence and then we can weigh the evidence
[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And weigh people's interest in advancing the story right now
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing to make of it because it's just people
[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Spreading rumors all right that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening
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