This episode is presented by Carolina Readiness Supply – POLITICO reports that former Trump administration intel officials are super worried about abuses that Trump might engage in if he wins another term. Plus, one of the bombshell stories from the J6 committee probe falls apart when records are released. Also, polling shows trouble ahead for Democrats in North Carolina.
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[00:00:28] All right, so Joe Biden took the classified documents, lied about it, and then they found
[00:00:36] it, and then he was, then he cooperated, and so they did a big investigation and under the
[00:00:41] senile cooperator theory, a reasonable juror on a jury could reasonably decide that he was
[00:00:52] unaware of the presence of the files in his garage. So the prosecutors like, don't want to risk it,
[00:01:01] won't even bother so no charges. Very similar approach to the Hillary Clinton,
[00:01:08] you know, classified documents decision to not go after her too. Unlike Donald Trump where they
[00:01:14] would go ahead. No, Donald Trump has done a lot of other things to help make the case easier against
[00:01:20] him. And I know people who love Trump don't want to hear that, but he did. He made it easier.
[00:01:26] And if you've got people in the government that are out to get you, when you make it easy for them,
[00:01:32] it makes it easier for them to get you. That's why this story in Politico,
[00:01:41] so it's really his, it is something else. Headline, the prospect of a second Trump presidency has
[00:01:51] the intelligence community on edge. Oh no, what might they do? Right. Holy cow, are you saying that
[00:02:04] the intelligence community might do something? I don't know a little bit beyond the bounds of
[00:02:11] normalcy. No, say it ain't so. Former top officials from Donald Trump's administration are warning
[00:02:20] that he is likely to use a to amazing how many people from Donald Trump's administration come out
[00:02:26] and talk against him. It really is, it is something. Is it not? And you can say it's because he picked
[00:02:32] the wrong people. He got bad advice. He's a terrible hireer or something. I don't know, and at this
[00:02:37] point it doesn't matter to me. It just seems like there's a ton of people that have worked for him
[00:02:44] that now talk trash about him. You know? So former top officials from Donald Trump's administration
[00:02:52] are warning that he is likely to use a second term to overhaul the nation's spy agencies
[00:03:01] in a way that could lead to an unprecedented level of politicization of intelligence.
[00:03:11] Is it really unprecedented? Really? I mean, I guess if that word has no meaning whatsoever,
[00:03:18] it would be unprecedented because like what I've seen so what I've seen in the last eight years.
[00:03:27] I was talking to Christy about this last night that if Trump wins,
[00:03:35] that means for 12 years more than 12 years of my career, I will have been doing this job
[00:03:47] with a Trump either presidency or candidacy. You know? And if he loses and Biden
[00:03:57] wins and he does the four years or Kamala Harris does the four years, whatever. There's nothing to say
[00:04:03] that Trump couldn't come back and try again in another four years from now, right? He could.
[00:04:10] That would be 16 years. 16 years. I would be doing this job with Donald Trump as the candidate or
[00:04:20] the president. Anyway, I thought that was a great point by the way. That was Kelly Armstrong in
[00:04:26] the last hour who was pointing out that there are only been three people who have been
[00:04:33] or who have been president or running for president over the last
[00:04:39] what eight years now and three of them have in all three of them have been
[00:04:46] accused of mishandling classified information and only two of them have escaped charges.
[00:04:50] And it just happens to be the two Democrats. And by the way, for everybody that's mad about Trump
[00:04:58] getting hit with this stuff and not Biden or Clinton, never forget because I haven't
[00:05:05] it was Donald Trump who said, you know what? Elections over will let will let Hillary go now.
[00:05:13] That was his call. That's what he did.
[00:05:17] Everybody was chanting lock her up, lock her up. And then as soon as he won, he was like,
[00:05:22] oh, we'll just let her go. She's a good person, right?
[00:05:28] And for that good deed, what did he get? I mean, if you consider it a good deed, I don't know.
[00:05:34] I do not. I do not. I felt like it undermined the rule of law. But what do I know?
[00:05:41] Donald Trump who already tried to revamp intelligence agencies during his first term is
[00:05:46] likely to re up those plans and push even harder to replace people perceived as hostile to his
[00:05:53] political agenda with inexperienced loyalists. Oh my gosh, well, we can't have that. We cannot have
[00:05:59] loyalists to the president in the intelligence agencies. We must have people that hate his guts
[00:06:05] and leak all the time to undermine him. That's what you have to have. No.
[00:06:11] What does he think he's a Democrat still? Come on.
[00:06:14] By the way, this is all according to interviews that Politico did with more than a dozen people
[00:06:21] who worked in Trump's administration. 18. Apparently, 18 former officials who worked in Trump's
[00:06:32] administration like who? Well, here's one. Do you remember this name? Fiona Hill.
[00:06:39] Wait a minute. Wait, hang on a second. You're going to Fiona Hill?
[00:06:45] No wait, who else? I'm sure Vindman is in there, right? He's got to be in there. Dan Coates is
[00:06:52] in there who became an outspoken critic of Trump after he left the administration in 2019.
[00:06:59] Also, John Bolton, who's also now a critic of the former president, right?
[00:07:05] Fiona Hill, who has regularly criticized his policies. These are the people. These are the former
[00:07:10] Trump officials that left or refired that hate Donald Trump that have criticized him.
[00:07:15] And now they're coming like, hey, I just want to give you a completely objective, unbiased warning
[00:07:21] that Trump could destroy the intelligence community if you let him into the office again
[00:07:27] because he could politicize it unlike Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton.
[00:07:34] Barack Obama and all the Democrats and no, no, no, Peter Struck telling Lisa Page,
[00:07:39] we won't let them. Don't worry. We won't let them. And when asked, what does that mean?
[00:07:44] We won't let them. We won't let Trump become the president. What does that mean? Oh, I just meant
[00:07:50] we the people in the election. That's what I totally meant. Yeah, that's what I meant. No, it wasn't
[00:07:55] your investigation. You're crossfire hurricane that you were doing with Lisa Page. Now,
[00:08:01] America spy agencies are never completely divorced from politics says political, but an overhaul
[00:08:10] of the type that Trump is expected to. This is what if you were to take this with Michael
[00:08:15] Crite and talked about like 25 years ago, Michael Crite, he of Jurassic Park authorship, right?
[00:08:21] Michael Crite and talked about how so much of this of reporting of journalism has become
[00:08:28] just predictive. And as such, it has virtually zero relevance. It has zero importance and relevance
[00:08:39] because it's just a prediction. And if you are wrong, you don't lose your job. So all you do is predict
[00:08:47] and then what is the incentive is to predict the most horrible thing to juice your readership,
[00:08:54] right? To get more eyeballs, to watch your news programs or read your paper so that the incentive
[00:09:01] is built in to make wilder and wilder predictions. That's why you like if you listen to my show,
[00:09:08] I do not do a lot of predictions because if I'm wrong, like what's the upside? The upside is I
[00:09:15] get to say I was right. What did I tell you? You need to listen to me because I'll predict everything
[00:09:19] right in the future. Well, that's not possible. Nobody can predict everything right in the future.
[00:09:23] So what happens if I'm wrong? Well now I lose credibility. So what's the, like what's the overall
[00:09:29] benefit there for me and why would anybody rely on me to be able to tell the future? Look,
[00:09:34] if I could tell the future, I'm not coming to work tomorrow because I've won the lottery tonight.
[00:09:40] By the way, you don't have to play because I've won the lottery tonight.
[00:09:43] Washington Examiner headline, Cassidy Hutchinson's sensational story about Trump
[00:09:51] undercut by House GOP January 6th report. You remember Cassidy Hutchinson? Do you remember her?
[00:10:00] She was Mark Meadows' assistant to well-marked menos.
[00:10:08] Hutchinson, Cassidy Hutchinson. House Republicans released their initial report yesterday on their
[00:10:14] investigation into the Democratic-led Senate Select Committee on the January 6th Capitol riot.
[00:10:21] You got to say it like that, like Capitol, you know? Like Teddy Roosevelt.
[00:10:26] Bully, bully, Capitol. Anyway, that's the latest step in the House GOP's look into the riots
[00:10:31] at the U.S. Capitol following the 2020 election. Among the findings in the House administration
[00:10:38] committees, oversight subcommittee report, were claims that Cassidy Hutchinson's account of former
[00:10:44] President Donald Trump's actions on January 6th was not corroborated by other White House
[00:10:52] employees. Well, what did Cassidy say? Well, she was the assistant to former Chief of Staff Mark
[00:11:00] Meadows during the Trump administration. She was one of the key witnesses in the Democrats investigation
[00:11:07] into January 6th. Republicans have long sought to discredit Hutchinson and the overall findings
[00:11:13] of the Select Committee challenging the committee's work since the GOP took the House majority in 2022
[00:11:19] and by the way, I will always blame Nancy Pelosi for this because she could have had an actual
[00:11:27] bipartisan Select Committee, you know, a format where you've got an adversarial process that unfolds
[00:11:38] so you can test claims. You can argue and impeach and impune. Right? Well, not impune. You shouldn't
[00:11:45] do that. But like you can, you can argue against them the various testimonies and eyewitness accounts
[00:11:52] and that sort of thing. In other words, a trial. And this is the problem that the J6 committee
[00:11:57] was I think from its outset, it's original sin was that it put two never trumpers on there to
[00:12:03] Republicans and there were never there was never any pushback. There was never an adversarial
[00:12:09] process that was allowed to unfold. And as such, it's all poison fruit from that tree. So
[00:12:17] yeah, I don't blame Republicans for taking a look at the way this was done. And by the way,
[00:12:23] the more they look at it, the more we realize that the investigation wasn't completely on the up
[00:12:29] and up. And this Cassidy Hutchinson example is just another example. All right. Well,
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[00:13:45] is used under license. Cassidy Hutchinson testified under oath publicly and privately before the
[00:13:53] J6 committee that she had heard Donald Trump lunged for the wheel of the presidential SUV aka
[00:14:02] the beast and got into a physical altercation with his lead secret service agent.
[00:14:09] After Donald Trump was told that he could not go to the rally on J6 to join his supporters.
[00:14:16] Remember this story? That she had heard from a friend who heard it from a friend who
[00:14:24] heard it from another he'd been messing around with the secret service agent driving the beast.
[00:14:29] That's what she testified. Oh, I mean, I'm not don't quote me verbatim here because I'm
[00:14:33] not quoting her verbatim but she testified that people told her oh my gosh Donald Trump was so
[00:14:40] man he was so mad. I mean, he tried to wrestle away the steering wheel.
[00:14:46] Trying to lunge over the seat at the secret service agent driving the car so you could drive over
[00:14:52] so you could steer the beast over to the ellipses ellipses ellipses. Anyway, in the report the
[00:15:03] oversight committee subcommittee led by chairman Barry Louder milk said the White House provided
[00:15:10] Louder milk with four heavily redacted transcribed interviews from the White House employees.
[00:15:16] Right? So the White House gave the new committee for transcribed interviews from other White House
[00:15:26] employees but they were all very heavily redacted. So then they got them unredacted so they could
[00:15:32] read them. The committee found that oh, the descriptions of events from these other employees
[00:15:39] that Hutchinson was apparently quoting did not match what she said.
[00:15:47] Quote none of the White House employees corroborated Hutchinson's sensational story about
[00:15:53] president Trump lunging for the steering wheel of the beast. However, some witnesses did describe
[00:15:59] the president's mood after the speech as I rate. So he was very I rate. Okay, so the select committee
[00:16:11] despite knowing that Hutchinson's testimony, the J6 committee, despite knowing that Cassidy's
[00:16:18] testimony changed substantially over time to become more and more dramatic. They rushed into yet
[00:16:24] another Hollywood hearing even though they were not able to verify the story.
[00:16:30] The White House had originally sent over the interviews heavily redacted with which louder milk and
[00:16:34] allies believe was intentional. Quote, the content of these witness transcripts makes clear why
[00:16:41] the J6 committee chose not to release these transcripts despite releasing almost every other
[00:16:48] witness transcript. These witnesses directly undermine the claims that were made by Cassidy Hutchinson
[00:16:55] and the J6 committee and it underscores that that committee only showed the public what they wanted
[00:17:04] the public to see. Right, so this was not a legitimate investigation and we all knew this obviously.
[00:17:13] We knew it from the moment when they kicked all of the Republicans off the committee except for
[00:17:17] chaining and kinsinger. Right, the fix was in.
[00:17:21] louder milk said in a statement following the report's release that the J6 committee,
[00:17:26] quote, promoted hearsay and then cherry picked information to promote its political goal
[00:17:31] to legislatively prosecute Trump or as Democrats and the folks over at the bullwalk would call it
[00:17:40] in the Lincoln project. These are the norms. The norms being protected. Norms that allow Cassidy
[00:17:46] Hutchinson to make up a story so she can sell a book and they would promote that story. They
[00:17:52] would then redact any other witness testimony that would fly in the face of that testimony and
[00:17:58] then they would put it out there in this Hollywood produced hearing setting, get all of the media
[00:18:03] coverage in order to get Trump even though it wasn't true. These are the norms that must be respected.
[00:18:10] What else? Oh, I got some polling. This came from the North Carolina based conservative think tank
[00:18:17] John Locke Foundation. They contract with a polling firm called Signal which is actually very good
[00:18:26] and they took a look at likely general election voters. So this is North Carolina focus. The
[00:18:34] plus or minus margin of error on this is 3.99%. So 4% so I look at all of these numbers. I'm
[00:18:41] going to give you the numbers, but I look at these all if they're within four points of each other
[00:18:45] then there it's a tie to me that it's a tie because it's all within a margin of error.
[00:18:53] Generally speaking, do you think the US is headed in the right direction or on the wrong track?
[00:18:57] If you just said wrong track, you are with 66% of North Carolinians only 26% say right direction.
[00:19:07] So that's a big enough spread where yeah most people don't think we're going in the right direction.
[00:19:13] Which of the following issues was most important to you when you went and cast your votes
[00:19:18] in the primary. Okay, so this is backwards looking top issue immigration and it's beyond the
[00:19:27] margin of error. It's a 25% picked immigration as the top issue now the other issues some of them
[00:19:34] I would lump together and that would put it over immigration for example number two is the economy
[00:19:40] number four is inflation number five is taxes and spending. And if I add all of those together
[00:19:50] I'm over 25% and I kind of think all of those three things are together but they worry us
[00:19:54] separately and so people pick their top choice number three was abortion by the way
[00:20:01] and that comes in at 12.7%. The economy was number two at 17.8%. So almost 18%.
[00:20:07] How satisfied are you with your choices for the general election? Total satisfied was 59.7% 60%.
[00:20:18] 30% dissatisfied another 10% were unsure. North Carolina state legislature generic ballot
[00:20:28] do you like the Republicans or Democrats? This is a six point spread it's 49% Republican 43%
[00:20:35] Democrat with another like 9% unsure again that's the state legislature so a six point spread there
[00:20:43] but margin of error and also the unshores that could break either way congressional race similar
[00:20:50] margin 48 to 42% Republican over Democrat what else here with another 9% unsure Biden's job
[00:21:00] approval numbers do you approve disapprove is approval number is 38% disapproval 59% and here's the problem
[00:21:14] form only 3.6% are unsure so like these numbers are probably not going to move a lot unless of course
[00:21:24] something dramatic happens that rallies people around him you don't you don't turn this ship
[00:21:33] with only 3.6% unsure that tells me that like peoples opinions have solidified right
[00:21:41] how about Roy Cooper what you approve of his job that he's doing and his approval number is
[00:21:48] 49% his disapproval number 43% so a six point spread on Cooper's approval most people still
[00:21:57] approve of the job he's done but 8% are unsure but here's the thing it doesn't really matter because
[00:22:02] he's not running for reelection now he could run for us senate he could be trying to angle for a
[00:22:08] vice presidential slot somewhere but that's about it I think I don't know where else he would run
[00:22:15] maybe president all right do the current world events have you wondering whether we are
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[00:23:09] foundation has its latest pulling out on north carolina likely voters likely voters again that's
[00:23:16] the demographic you're looking for because these are people that actually take active measures to go
[00:23:21] vote they have a history of doing so and they intend to do so again um so what is the uh
[00:23:29] presidential ballot looking like right i did the coop approval numbers right i already paid that off
[00:23:34] i think i did yeah 49 to 43 percent right presidential ballot if the election were held today
[00:23:41] who do you vote for Donald Trump 45 percent Joe Biden 40 percent so that's a five point spread
[00:23:54] and again remember the margin of error is four percentage points so even with that trump is still
[00:24:01] ahead of Biden here's the thing someone else is listed at nine percent and undecided
[00:24:10] is at five point five and that my friends that's enough to swing either way right 14 15 percentage points
[00:24:22] um how about mark robinson versus Josh thine versus Wayne Turner versus Mike Ross for the
[00:24:30] gubernatorial race mark robinson at 44 percent so he is trailing Donald Trump but only by one point
[00:24:39] stein is at 39 he's trailing uh Joe Biden by less than a point undecided is about 15 percentage
[00:24:50] points on this and then you've got the green party candidate Wayne Turner he's at point six percent
[00:24:57] we'll see if he we'll see if he catches on if he's he picks up the momentum
[00:25:04] Mike Ross the libertarian is at 1.8 percent moving down the ballot we come to north carolina attorney
[00:25:12] general dan bishop at 41 percent so he's a little bit below robinson uh a little bit below trump as well
[00:25:22] democrat jef jackson is at 39 percent so a two point spread but undecided is clocking in at about
[00:25:29] 21 which means this is anybody's race still again always keep in mind with these polls just a snapshot
[00:25:39] this is just a snapshot of where people are right now after the primary now moving into the general
[00:25:45] election right uh supreme court justice ballot uh this is a 41 to 39 split in favor of the
[00:25:52] republican jeferson griffin over allison rigs but is a very large undecided number there to it
[00:25:58] about 19 percent um for the labor commissioner ballot uh this is luke farly versus braxton
[00:26:07] winston trawlet city councilman former um the republican farly is winning uh or is leading in the
[00:26:15] polls 42 to 35 percent but again another large undecided block of about 23 percent state treasurer
[00:26:23] Brad briner republican 43 Wesley Harris democrat 37 so a six point spread there for the republican
[00:26:32] for state treasurer but again 20 percent undecided next up insurance commissioner by the way all
[00:26:40] of these are the council of state races my cause the incumbent republican at 43 percent
[00:26:46] followed by the democrat challenger nattasha marcus from charlotte um she's clocking in at
[00:26:53] 37 percent so again another six point spread but again another large group of undecided at 20 percent
[00:27:02] superintendant this is very close michelle morrow the republican who just be
[00:27:07] Catherine trut the republican incumbent she's at 41 mo green at 39 20 percent undecided and finally
[00:27:15] last number um registration republicans 32 percent democrats 34 percent unaffiliated 31 percent
[00:27:25] so uh we'll see how it shakes out all right that'll do it for this episode thank you so much for
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