If only Biden had THESE moderators! (09-11-2024--Hour2)

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[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, thank you so much for your support last night the presidential debate. I thought this was interesting that

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Harris kept saying that

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_00]: There has to be an end to the

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_00]: War in Gaza there has to be an end to the war. They got to end the war they got to end the fighting

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: but when Trump said

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We got to end the war in Ukraine and

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_00]: He would make that happen by bringing you know by talking to Putin and talking to Zelensky

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like oh no can't do that. No, no, no can't do that, but we can do that for the

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: For the Israeli conflict

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Well as we do on Wednesdays, we talk with Mark Starling from WWNC out in Asheville, Western North Carolina

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Mark welcome sir. How are you?

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Hello mark. Hey. Oh, yeah. Hello

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness we can't hear you

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Hang on. Oh hang on

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You're in a bad cell I think we got

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you're in a bad cell

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We got you. I got you

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we'll sorry about that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think we're gonna be able to let's uh

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna go ahead and put you on hold and we'll see if we can get into a better spot or a better cell or something

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't mean a terrorist cell

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Mark gave up that that kind of lifelong ago

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me jump over here and get all right, let me talk to Mike real quick. Hello Mike

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, how you doing? Hey, I'm good. What's up?

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_04]: the comment that the caller made of

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_04]: you calls back about the

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_04]: assassination attempt being faked and the cats and the dogs I

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Think that comment about the AR-15 blowing his ear off was probably the most idiotic comment

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I've ever heard come out of anybody's mouth

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, this is the problem with this country. These are the people that are voting an

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_04]: AR round is about the diameter of a pencil. It's not a hand grenade

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And if it nicks something it nicks something

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm, I could shoot you in the hand with an AR-15 and put a hole in your hand

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not blowing your hand off which is absolutely ridiculous and as far as the Haitian thing goes

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Have you ever been to Haiti?

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Me no put it past

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Anybody living there eating a cat or dog or anything that they get their hands on well

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So here's the thing well, all right

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So here's the thing and that Mike I appreciate the call like I here's the thing about the Haitian story is that there are reports of them

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Collecting ducks and geese

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: That's confirmed police reports confirm that

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the cats and dogs part, but this is the part that like oh, I can't believe Trump said that kind of thing

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like man. Are we back in 2015?

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_00]: This was the reaction when Trump said all sorts of stuff and everybody was like oh my gosh, you know

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And Gary points out that people think that the this

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know Haitians may be eating ducks and geese and cats

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: They think it's dumb, but all it takes is that story blowing up on tiktok and it shifts the election

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_00]: People want it to be policy that impacts elections

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But this is probably more what it takes nowadays is this kind of stupidity

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It is the memes

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let me see if we got mark back here mark starling. Can you hear me mark starling? I can hear you loud and clear

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all right. That's a much better connection now. Okay, so

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk a little bit about what's going out going on out in Asheville real quick because as I understand it

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: There's what an update on the the ethnic intimidation story that occurred out there

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we got us we have a contestant number three that has warrants now issued for her

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_06]: arrest and

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_06]: So it feel kind of interesting with her. She is apparently a very rabid vegan. Hmm like a militant vegan

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_06]: She is also

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_06]: She was also picked up on charges just outside of it alone

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Outside of I don't know where this is phone dropped out again. All right. I think we're gonna

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna have to bail on that

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Just a terrible area where you are whoever your provider is

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Strongly worded letter to follow mark write them a strongly worded letter

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I want to know who the person was now. I felt like he was building up to something

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, let me go over and get Bradford on hello Bradford welcome to the show

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Pete. Hey, what's up? Let me show you thank you, sir

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I've told your screener on

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: After the debate, I don't think Trump did his best by far but when they polled

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The people after the debate not people but they did polls from one on the economy by like 20 points

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: On immigration by 20 points and who could be commander-in-chief?

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: By like six points. So I don't think

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Seeing bad as always as bad as what people say I think he did better than what people are giving him credit for

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So I saw this too. I saw CNN they asked questions of

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: of

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: People before and then after and so who would better handle the economy and before the debate

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump is up 53 percent to 37 percent and then after the debate

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: They moved more towards Trump

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_00]: 55 to 35 20 so a 20 per 20 point spread on

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Who would better handle the economy and I just saw Margo Cleveland

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: from the Federalist she pointed out that

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Trump came across angry. But what was he? What was his anger directed at and it was at

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: The ruin of the country

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's what people pick up on and they and that's what resonates with them

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think his closing argument was great at the end and I think

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That well, I

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He don't have to debate her again. He can if he wants but I don't think he really needs to

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I got you Bradford. I appreciate the call. Yeah, no, it's here's the thing. I said this in the last hour

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: People who watch politics closely and if you're listening to this show

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Then you are one of those people congratulations, right?

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You may not think that you follow politics closely

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're listening to this show you are following politics more closely than the vast majority of americans

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's just how it is because we talk about politics and ideas and philosophy current events

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And religion and cat videos. We talk about it all but

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: but mainly politics because

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It is the thing like that

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe right politics

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Is how you ward off

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: violence

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: in our society and any society right if you cannot engage in this exchange of ideas

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And the discussion of current events and the discussion of policy and philosophy if you can't do that

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Then you end up with people, you know

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Taking up arms against one another because they're trying to

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: exert their will on others through force and

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: that's why

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Engaging in political discourse is so key

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And so when I watch a debate and when you watch a debate, you're probably looking for many of the same things

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I am

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and I just point out here because I too have had to kind of

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: reframe my thinking on this as it pertains to donald trump which is

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: The things that I expect and I perceive to be in a successful debate performance

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: trump does not exhibit

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't seem to matter to people

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: The people that don't like him

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to see it and they're going to be repulsed

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But for people who are still at this date undecided which to me it's like mind-blowing

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're still not decided you're unsure who to vote for now

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: According to the focus groups after that debate last night was that

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: People moved more to him

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I cannot explain that

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Except that the people who are telling us what we should have taken away from that debate and these things that we prefer

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: To see in a debate performance

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_00]: These things are not shared by the undecideds that are still left

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So just kind of keep that

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_00]: in mind

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that was the cnn poll there from uh from last night. Let me go back here real quick

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: They kept calling abc

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why they did this these just little points that I picked up on

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I jotted down notes that they kept calling it this historic presidential debate historic historic historic so annoying

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why they did that

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Branding I guess I don't know

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I said this last night

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_00]: as I'm watching

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: if this

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: team of quote moderators

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: If david moeer and lindsay davis if these two were the moderators

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_00]: In the first debate with joe biden

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I have no doubt joe biden would still be the nominee

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_00]: because

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: They assisted the democrat kamala harris so much and so often

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And the stacking of the questions the framing of the questions at one point for example

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: He uh moeer asked

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Moeer was asking donald trump about something that he said and trump said he just he said it sarcastically

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_00]: In other words, like he was joking. It was just a joke. Why are you asking me about this?

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_00]: About this this thing that I said it was a joke and

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Then moeer responds to him and says something like

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I did not detect any sarcasm

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm sorry. Are you the sarcasm detector?

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I like I wasn't aware that this is one of the

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: qualifications needed to anchor abc world news tonight or something

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And frankly just in the way he he presents himself

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if this guy would would be able to identify sarcasm if explicitly presented to him

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He just he doesn't like that's not the image he projects me

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I am fluent in sarcasm. I am very very fluent in it

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_00]: This guy no he comes across so it's very stiff and stale

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I would not I did not detect any sarcasm in it but here like

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not for you to say

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Whether or not you thought it was sarcastic or not doesn't matter

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You're just there to ask questions, dude

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Ask the questions read your card

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Shut up

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like it's your ass got him about jokes and you're like I didn't get the joke. So

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a p-tweet Eric says

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump did a mediocre job, but relatively well considering it was very obviously three on one

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Every time something inconvenient for harris came up the moderators just had to move on to a new topic

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_00]: For trump they would ask follow-ups. There was no fact checking of harris

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_00]: The republicans need to stop agreeing to debates moderated by democrats. Yeah, this is something

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Something to mention here too democrats never agree to debates on fox news with fox news. You notice that?

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_00]: They will never do debates for fox

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So why are republicans doing debates on any of these other stations?

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: This could be the last debate we ever see

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Right if republicans quit doing debates with these kinds of moderators, although like look for the cnn

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The debate with biden

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they didn't do anything and that's why they got dragged jake tapper dana bash

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00]: They asked the question and then the mics got muted and they moved on

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was up to the candidates to fact check each other and to debate each other

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And to use their time to respond to each other's false assertions last night both of them

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Had things to be attacked on

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: but the the abc hosts

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Only felt the need to fact check and press one of the candidates

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's a problem if you're gonna fact check in real time then you got to do it for both

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And after the cnn debate, what was the response from the democrats and the rest of the media world?

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: But i repeat myself. What was the what was the response was worse moderators ever

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: They let trump say whatever he wanted to say blah blah blah, but this was what they were most upset about

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Message received by the democrats at abc

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And so anytime they asked trump a question and trump tried to pivot not answer the question

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_00]: They would constantly go the question was very simple as yes or no

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me bring you back to the question. Let me bring you back to the question

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But when kamala harris gets asked a question

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And says well, it's a good question. Let me talk about something completely different. They never dragged her back

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a problem if you're trying to actually be an impartial moderator in my opinion

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, let me go over to what we got here chris. Hello chris. Welcome to the program

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you, sir. How are you doing today? I'm good. What's going on?

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_07]: I just listened into the show enjoying it

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_07]: um

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think it's a historical

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_07]: They keep calling it historical because they know it's the last one. They're ever gonna almost

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I just I can't imagine

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, it was so like you said three on one trump

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Trump was a trump and I thought he did pretty dang well considering the situation and

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_07]: um

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_07]: These people like to laugh the people call up talking about oh, i'm gonna vote for kamala now

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, it's like that's a fight. That's also a fake phony new vote

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_07]: This is fake and it's disingenuous is half the things that she said in practice all those lies that we know her lies

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_07]: She knows their lies their listeners know their lies are at least a majority of them do and they just no raw and

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_00]: No chris, here's the thing people inside

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the the media bubble um, and that includes their audience

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't know this stuff

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Like when when they still believe charlotte's bill. Oh, yeah, right

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why she can and that and that's why she knows she can say it because not only does she not get fact checked on it

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_00]: But knows that by not being fact checked

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Then the people who watch it will come away thinking. Oh, well, that's true

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_07]: And so even frosted that one. I agree

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_00]: We know I have the audio clip. I can play it. It's right here on the laptop

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I can play at any time because it is it is so often used and it is incorrect

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_07]: It is false. Yeah, it is so and get such a lie and like that everybody wants to talk about the cat and the

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_07]: No, but no pushback on the venezuelan gangs taking over people's homes. We're gonna gloss over that

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_07]: But we're gonna talk about the cat thing. It's like we're missing the big picture man

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, but this is and I appreciate the call chris. This is the the binders of women and uh

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know kill big bird like this is

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_00]: This is why trump's lack of focus in mentioning the cats and dogs thing

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It drags attention away from what would otherwise remain which is the story about immigration that he hammered all night long

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Every single answer had it seemed like had some some mention of immigration

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But nobody's talking about that today because it's about the cats and dogs

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But maybe he's maybe he knows something that we don't

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[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I do have a bunch of emails in fact, here's one from

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, paul who says it was so obvious that she took

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_00]: A not too public speaking class last week the hands give it away

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Well and look i've heard also people are like oh she had an earring that was uh remote control not remote control

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But uh like an ifb like the tv anchors wear and i've worn those things

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I have in my tv experience in the past and

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Talking with those things in your ear and having somebody talk to you while you're talking is difficult

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe that she had somebody in her ear telling her what to say

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I think she was just prepped and she's been running around for the last what you know 40 days

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Giving the same stump speech and that's what we heard last night

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't anything that she was talking about in that in her answers last night

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_00]: They weren't even answers to the questions

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: She would just pivot to something that was part of her stump speech

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And when you give the same speech for 40 straight days you retain that stuff

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Because one of the knocks on her has been that she doesn't do her homework much like donald trump

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't read all the briefings and stuff and that's why she would end up in these word salad situations when she would go and

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Visit people or go to some event and she would just start talking and not know what she's talking about

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: because she didn't do the homework

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're giving the same stump speech for 40 days

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you get on a stage and you just kind of tap into the different things that you've been saying already

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It comes way more way more naturally. You remember that stuff way easier

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me go over to travis hello travis welcome to the show

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I've watched that debate. I just felt like tom was entire approach which is

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Admission and discrimination without any substance the perfect example was when

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, she would talk about strength we need strength

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_03]: We come across a week and tom said well you went to russia to demonstrate strength of three days later they

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I thought that was one of the that was one of the

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_03]: An altar

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you were bad children. She was talking to I just wanted to scream. What about the three days? What about the failure?

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry. I cut you off. Yeah, no, I'm sorry your your connection is very bad travis

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it sounds like you're like talking through a muffler or something

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But um, no, I thought that line about the ukrainian war was a very good one

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And he could have hammered her repeatedly like you went over to negotiate

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_00]: To keep putin from invading and three days later

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_00]: He invaded because he knew you and biden are weak. I thought it was a fantastic point he made

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, all right, let me go to ed hello ed welcome to the program. How are you?

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, pete how are you doing good when you when you started off your failure?

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_02]: You made a comment as to how she sounded nervous

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when she began to talk the thing that struck me

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Was how clear her words were she always sounds like she's on her second or third bottle of wine

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: When when I'm when I'm listening to her speak

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_02]: But she was incredibly articulate. She reminded me of uh

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_02]: When she was in the uh the 2020 run it against bod and she found it more like that

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But did you pick up on that? Yeah, well like I said, she was way more prepped and polished than the the word salad stuff

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you're looking you're listening for her words and I was uh when I was commenting about her

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Her shakiness her nerves that came through not in the words that she was speaking

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But in how she was delivering them like the the vocal chord action going on like you can I could hear it

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: where the

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_00]: the squeakiness and the

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the almost like a dry mouth kind of a thing going on where

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: She's breaking it at weird points in her sentences in order to kind of

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, uh lip smack or you know put the tongue up against the top of the roof of the mouth kind of thing

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Those little things like I saw at the very beginning that indicate to me that she was very nervous

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But she got way more comfortable

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But I agree her delivery on this stuff and that's what that's what the democrats wanted from biden

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And they were so mad and that's why they say he couldn't beat trump in that debate

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_00]: They wanted somebody to take it to trump and she did and that's all they want

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, one more one more comment if anybody wants to know if that was a fair debate

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Probably the best person you could ask would be bernie sanders because

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_02]: ABC I think people have short memories but george steffen office. Well, he was head of what bill clinton staff

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and then you got donna brazil. She's now associated with abc. She was the one that said

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, hilly clinton all those questions. So yeah, I mean

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Trump should have known what he was was walking into i I think all in all he did pretty good

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I think if you hadn't listened to either one of or you didn't know anything about the fact

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd probably give that to come. I think she

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Did an outstanding job compared to what she's done in the past. So yeah, no, there was no word salads

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Were very few right? There wasn't so that that kind of meandering

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Stuff that she does like she she did not have that and she did not do the uncontrollable

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Cackling either so I think those were really the big things

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But she did kind of come across as condescending and smug to me

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, absolutely

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But and that's all with the split screen when you could see her

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Reacting to what trump is saying whereas trump didn't react like at all. He just stared straight ahead

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: The whole time and maybe some people didn't like that. I don't know

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I was I was disappointed when she started attacking him on afghanistan and uh talking to the taliban

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, who else would you be negotiating with yeah in afghanistan other than the taliban? Yeah

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't I think he missed some good opportunities there, but I mean it wasn't a total knockout. It wasn't a total

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I agree. Yeah, and I appreciate the call

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and this is the thing when when trump does all of his rallies

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And he speaks of the things that he wants to speak about and he riffs as he likes to riff

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That's all fine and good for rallies

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But that stuff doesn't translate always to the debate stage whereas when you watch her

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_00]: uh rally speeches

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The stuff that she was saying to me it seems like they have been writing her speeches

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: In order to make her do the homework to ingrain these

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Sentences in her head. So when she gets on a debate stage, she then just

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Spits them out and that's why she was able to avoid the word salads. That's what it seems like to me

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[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_00]: As he got progressively worse 40 years ago

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[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: icky foo. It's a pete tweet. She says

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, camilla harris did not sound or look like joe biden

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_00]: So instant win she definitely cackled once and she sounded like a nag when she was telling him how everybody hates him

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she did kind of come across as a bit of a nag

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: this is from

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_00]: King jaffy jaffer

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't make these names. He says it was more than that pete off script

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: This woman can't put two coherent sentences together without it turning into a word salad

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's not that's not entirely accurate. She can in fact put two sentences together

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, yet last night every response she had was clear coherent and thoughtful

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'd go that far either. Um, you won't convince me that they didn't have the debate script in advance

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Look, you don't need a script in advance. You know what the topics are going to be right?

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's going to be abortion, you know, there's going to be ukraine israel

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_00]: economy

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: fracking guns

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: abortion did I already say that

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Abortion right, you know that these are going to be the topics you got about a dozen of these topics

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're already woven into her speeches and so they just keep having or deliver the same speech

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And yes, that's why it's she didn't need their script. She had her own script

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: She's been reading her own script for 40 days on the campaign trail

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_00]: That's why she's not doing media interviews

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Right because on a debate stage

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And look, you can you can you know how you can tell this is this is the case

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: is that

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: When she was asked a question about something that she didn't have an answer to

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: She would just pivot to some other scripted line that she had memorized

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That's it

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And and then the moderators would never follow up with her

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: There was no follow-up with her when they said do you like one of the questions was do you support any restriction on abortion?

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But they didn't say abortion on any restrictions on women's rights to an abortion

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you any restriction? Do you support any restriction?

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And she just blew right through it didn't even answer it

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So if the moderators not going to hold her accountable for not answering

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Then she's allowed to just give her scripted response

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Which again, she's been saying on the campaign trail, but look i'm not trying to convince you of that

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I think is going on you could think

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you could think something else

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't matter to me. Um, let me go and get another call here. This is from phil. He's been waiting a while. Hello phil

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, how are you?

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm good. I'm good. I appreciate you taking my call this is our first time to call in

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome aboard. I just wanted to make I wouldn't make three quick points

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_05]: The first question are you do are we doing better today than four years ago?

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_05]: She didn't answer the question

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_05]: She really couldn't answer the question because everybody knows we are it's only been four years since trump's tax cuts

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Put more money in everybody's pocket jen at yellen back in the day. She even confirmed that she said everybody's got more money

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_05]: People that voted or did not vote for trump remember this and and also in in last year in the last year of trump's four years

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_05]: My church pastor told me he didn't vote for trump

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And and he and and shared with me a few of the reasons why he didn't vote for trump

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_05]: However, he told me he was very pleased with the increases. He was realizing his 401k

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I said well pastor if you felt that way

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, and you didn't vote for trump

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd give the money back

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_05]: His response was his response was to shea

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_05]: But I believe that non voters non voters from trump will remember that

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_05]: That and they shouldn't move more to vote for trump in november second thing

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_05]: The huge illegal immigration problem we're uh continuing to have as many many states

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Become border states now with the democrats and illegal across the country

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Also voters know that and I think they'll remember kamala did nothing about it

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think we're going to see more

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Votes and and these votes are not showing up. I don't think in the polls

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_05]: But these people that are dealing with this just like up in ohio and out in colorado

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_05]: But there's many more states is dealing with the same problem. Okay, the last thing

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I believe kamala when it comes to foreign policy

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_05]: She's an empty suit trump has demonstrated

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_05]: It demonstrated he can negotiate with world leaders and he's leveraged america's power

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Economic benefits and military might peace through strength to accomplish good for america and for the world

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_05]: trump brought israel and two other or three two or three other countries in the middle east together through the

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Abraham accords. I think it'll do more of the same

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh at the end of war and not be afraid to show his and our country's full support for israel and their leaders

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Those are the three points. I wanted to make the tax. Yes, sir. Thank you phil appreciate the call

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think and people saying that you know, she baited him and he took the bait um to some degree that is true

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Particularly on the rally size as soon as she said it. I was like oh here we go like the only reason

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That she would bring up the rally sizes is to get him to talk about the sizes of his rallies

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And did and then he did and he wasted like two answers

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: talking about his rallies

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's trump

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: you're not there there's

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing there's nothing that's going to stop him from doing that

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00]: so

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But and they know that

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: They the democrats know that and they plan for it and he should know that too

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Just like he should know that those moderators are not on your side. All right, that'll do it for this episode

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