I know it's false... I just want to hear him deny it (09-04-2024--Hour2)

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[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to welcome back to the program as we normally do at one o'clock on Wednesdays

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_00]: To check in with our pal Mark Starling out in western North Carolina and Asheville morning guy at WWNC radio

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome Mark. How are you?

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing well Pete. I was just recently composing my latest work

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Song about pornography and Josh Stein. Oh really?

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, right that's good. I'm led to believe you don't have to have any sort of like credible facts or anything like that

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You can just go with the word of you know any Tom Dick or Harry off the street. Whoa, that's what I did

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, you know just so I know you are you are musically inclined

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I am you have participated in band activities

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Over the years and such you have a crew that you play with so is it possible that you all could

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: to spit out a hit here and put it up onto the YouTube and

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Then maybe shop the story around because I understand the assembly

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Is is always interested to find out the porn habits of I'm assuming every politician so

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's it's unfortunately

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I know this is gonna be hard for you to believe but in a very Tim Waltz fashion

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I've already won a Grammy and the song isn't even finished yet. Oh my gosh

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Congratulations to you sir. It's it is it's been really quite a day

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: This all transpired in the last like seven minutes, too

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I mean really been a busy day here in Western North Carolina. Well, sometimes the muse just speaks through you, you know

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You're a powerless to deny its ways

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Who am I to deny the people of what they asked for right?

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So and so like I'll ask you because you're a newsman as well

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And one of the questions I was taught to always ask about, you know

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Any story that you're fixing to do is what is the news value?

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Why should people care? Why is it news?

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and I am at a loss to understand aside from the obvious which is to influence

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_00]: conservative or evangelical voters not to express support or vote for

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Mark Robinson aside from that I am I am

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Unclear as to what the news value is particularly to warrant an eight-page

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Report by apparently like four different people involved

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Why so what is the news value in your estimation?

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I honestly, I don't think there is a news value to be to be frank with you. I really don't

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I you know, I'm old enough to remember

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Where I was told that it's none of my business what people do behind closed doors. Oh, that's right. I remember that or that was

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was like the Clinton administration wasn't it well and I thought I just heard it a little bit more recently

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh tim wall's who's a liar

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he got on stage during the dnc and he said mind your own damn business

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean honestly there is no news value

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, if if we have not as a society figured out yet

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That humans on the most basic level are flawed individuals

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And and we're not willing to

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we're not willing to accept the fact that listen over time people can change

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I don't know where we are

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I don't know if he I don't know if he had a porn habit or not

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll be honest with you. I'm not sure that it really affects him being governor

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Now if he's if he was governor and he was failing at his duties of governor

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we've got some things just some questions to ask

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or if he downloaded a virus off of one of those websites at the governor's mansion

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Right like that might be like, you know, you might want to set up some safeguards or whatever there, but

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't see the news value in it and and you know, I think I heard you say that

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, this story like these people that wrote this story and these people that are in this story

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: They would have known this story back when he was running for lieutenant governor. So

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Why now

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, I guess that's the biggest question. Why now right?

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they're yeah, they I don't know that there's an answer besides oh, well, we just don't want him

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: to win the election

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I think that for the reporters, that's the that that's the key here. That's their motivation

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that the motivation of the the guy who is you know front and center in this story making the allegations

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think he's he's trying to get clicks on his youtube video. He wants sure. Yeah, he's trying to promote his band

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Now if we went with a fair and equal application of the standards, which I know that you are a fan of big time

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Um racist

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He's racist

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean that's got to be the most simple answer, right?

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine so because I think the guy who's making the allegation as well as the reporters on the story are all white

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean if we have to go

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: With what is the most likely

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, when we look back at the track record of the last eight to ten years racist

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah structural racism. Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, that's all we can come to. Yeah and sex shaming

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: They're seeing him right so this is the other thing I said this last hour too

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about mark robinson this uh this hit piece on robinson and the at the assembly

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: NC.com the website

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, well first of all I wasn't aware that they had merged in with indy week

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like the the guys that wrote at indy week. They were all over at the assembly now

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So I was not aware of that but it makes total sense with this story indy's that really left-wing rag, right?

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Correct. Yeah, indy week. It's sort of like the um

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Mountain express was up there and and creative loafing was here in charlotte. Yeah

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And so the um

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: The thing is that these guys don't care

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The the reporters and even the guy in the the main accuser

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Louis money lewis money

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Even he doesn't have any problem with pornography. So that's not the point here, right?

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Because otherwise if they're saying that there is a problem with somebody frequenting those shops then

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: That would make them hypocrites, right?

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But no, they don't have a problem. They want you to have a problem with it

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: They want other people to have a problem with it

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I think that exposes the motive here for the reporters in doing the story

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And they know that it's going to get them a lot of clicks too because the lefties are super obsessed

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: With sex and who's having it where they're having it everything else

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And they you know, they make everything about sex

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And so every single tweet now that anybody puts out is going to have a bunch of references about mark robinson

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh and and uh going to porn stores and stuff

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And so like there's a it's the gift that keeps giving to the assembly guys and it got picked up nationally

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Of course it does and now everybody is going to be forced to play defender disavow

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: This should and look a consistent application of the standard requires the um

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: The reporters here the journalismers to go ask all candidates about their own porn habits

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: right

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Because if it's disqualifying it must be

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. That's absolutely 100 correct

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're going to ask him

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: What when am I going to see this question popped up at stein in the middle of a press conference, right?

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I want to know if listen, I think the only way that this story

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: is actually a story

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Is if the pornography type was child pornography then you've got a story

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But you don't have that story. What you have are consenting adults who are paid large sums of money

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: To engage in activities to be videoed. That's not a crime

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you have a store that provides this entertainment for the viewing by the general public

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Under regulation and law

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a crime

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And you have a consenting adult if he went in and did this and I just

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. I just have a hard time believing and I'll be honest with you. I'm not a mark robinson fan

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a fan of the of the bombacity

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that a word bombacity?

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But just I just don't feel like this is him

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Um

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I don't know maybe I maybe I'm off here. Maybe I'm a bad judge of character

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But and if it does turn out to be him and it turns out that he lied about it

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, then you've got a story but the there is no story about mark robinson's porn habit

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So this is right. So you know what I'm reminded of um the old line from lbj

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: He was in one of his uh one of the biographies on him where he was running for his uh

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a congressional district

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe at the time and he told his campaign manager to go out and start a whisper campaign accusing

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: uh his opponent of

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: fornicating with farm animals

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And right um his manager was like we can't do that. You know, that's not true and he says well, I know it's not true

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to hear him deny it

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what that's what this smacks of that's what this smacks of I just want to hear him deny it

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is this is the this is the ammunition

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: For a a 30 second commercial from a super PAC which is probably what it's going to be turned into

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually shocked. We haven't heard it already

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's as far as it goes. I honestly don't think

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody that is voting for mark robinson right now

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Is going to read that story and look at it go. You know what? That's the deal breaker. I'm done

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the because the your other choice

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: is josh stein

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Right everything everything josh stein stands for is diametrically opposed to what mark robinson stands for

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So you're it's not what you're going to make you you're going to change your mind and vote for stein because

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Mark robinson may or may not have a porn addiction

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, it's a it's I view it more along the lines of a suppressive effort

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it's to demoralize and to keep people from uh publicly supporting robinson or

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe uh, you know getting them to stay home, uh on election day

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we will find out the truth

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: On election day

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And the day after when we start to get exit polling on exactly how many people ended up pulling the levers for who when they said that they would

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think people are going to be honest about things until we get past election day

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Because at that point it's just a kid. It's kind of moot right? It doesn't really matter

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But I I think I think he uh, I think the exit polls are going to tell a big story this year

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Mark starling morning guy ww nc radio up in ashville appreciate your time. We'll talk with you next week buddy

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You got it pete have a great week. All right, man. That's mark starling got a tweet here

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a pete tweet from mc delinger who says

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, your true segment

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_00]: On discussion regarding, uh, rop mark robinson was right on target your explanation on accepting jesus and sin is hard to remove

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Is right on after salvation?

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: We still sin knowingly or unknowingly

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, whether that's through uh omission gluttony, etc. Uh, we must repent daily

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: um, and this is I think one of the uh problems that

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_00]: People who are of the leftist persuasion. I don't mean all democrats hashtag not all democrats. Um, but leftists

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: This is the thing they don't understand about Christianity specifically

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And it it it bubbles up in a lot of these stories in these attack pieces

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_00]: is that

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Redemption is a very big part repentance is a very big part

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Of anyone's journey

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: with Jesus christ

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: So you think this is an attack ad you think that this is you know, gonna gain traction and it's gonna shame conservatives or christians

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't because it just actually reinforces what the belief system already is

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Um john says

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, let me see here. This will be a campaign of a thousand cuts by tomorrow

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: They won't even be talking about this one. They'll drop another

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Allegation true or not the goal is to keep mark robinson on defense and off topic

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Joseph says it's a peat mail

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: That's an email. Okay, uh, the only time democrats advocate forgiveness is when they get caught lying

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Trying to push their agenda and then demand you forgive them because of your religion

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But when a person like robinson says he has changed and tries to let people know

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: That uh, what he did was immoral. They just accuse accuse accuse

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_00]: You know like satan

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and here's the thing this is this is going to be the problem for the robinson campaign if

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It turns out that the story was true and i've said from the beginning

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if the story is true or not. I am not inclined to believe it

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Based on the the problems with it that I raised in the first hour

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, the sourcing is not reliable

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_00]: they have

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Personal financial interests

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, they are self promoting

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't trust the the guys that did the story at all

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't see even if it is true. I don't understand the news value except in what I just

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Outlined and I know that like

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_00]: The the the point is not that porn is bad. They're not making that argument

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Their argument is you think porn is bad. So you should not like him

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: That's that that's the extent of it

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Um the problem for the campaign is going to be if it turns out to be true

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And they have denied it

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But in the past when the story about his abortion came to light which by the way

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: He told

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: He told that story. He said it himself on his facebook page

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_00]: He talked about that now think about that

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Does mark robinson if if the guy is willing to talk about that on his facebook page

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Why wouldn't he have ever mentioned

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: His visits to the porn shop. Is that worse?

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Does that carry a greater social stigma?

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, if so, why and is that what the the reporters are trying to tap into?

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But the last time that this story came out, what did the robinson campaign do what did mark robinson do? He said

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my wife and I it was the biggest mistake we ever made. We we did that

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: So if this is true and they've now denied it and it turns out that they can somehow confirm it which they have not

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But if they can somehow confirm that he's lying that's going to be a bigger problem because it's rarely the cover-up

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It's or sorry. It's rarely the scandal. It's always the cover-up, you know that gets you into so much trouble

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I am curious though. Um

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Could you not go around and ask um

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and ask democrats

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: How they're responding to the allegations

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, shouldn't you be warning them not to not to overreach because that's usually what you do when the scandal involves a democrat

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You always run around to the republicans and warn them like don't overreach on this scandal, right?

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I know it's different when democrats do it always

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[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_00]: one other nugget i left out of the uh the coverage, uh so far of the uh

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: The latest hit piece from the assembly and then of course the pylon coming from w r a l

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_00]: on uh lieutenant governor mark robinson

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it wouldn't be a catastrophizing

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Existential threat type of a journalisming piece

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: If there wasn't a reference to

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_00]: project 2025

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Five

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's how the this is hang on a second from the assembly. Yeah, this is the assembly's version of it

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: quote

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: porn has no claim to first amendment protection and should be outlawed declared project 2025

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: oh

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_00]: That's okay

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: So the right it's the heritage foundation's blueprint for a second trump administration

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Quote the people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned trump has tried to distance himself from project 2025

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Though many of its architects worked for him

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_00]: They're still doing this

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's w r a l following the same template

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Pornography has been a target of influential conservatives who are hoping to shape national policy a group of former trump advisors and other

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_00]: GOP insiders

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Has put together a plan called project 2025 which they hope

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, all right

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And so they hope that it will be a guide for trump if he returns to office trump's campaign has tried to distance itself from the proposal

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Democrats have sought to tie the manifesto directly to trump

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_00]: The manifesto it's now a manifesto

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Which honestly no come on if it was a manifesto

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't publish it just like the covenant school shooters, right like that

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Project 2025 is a collection of white papers from think tankers

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It is not the trump campaigns

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that you've got people that are supposedly

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Hired and paid to inform people about what is true and what is not that they don't understand this or they think

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: you don't

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Is a is an embarrassment it is an embarrassment to the reporters and to their outlets

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Donald trump has not tried to distance himself. He has flat out said that's not my work because it's not it's the heritage foundations

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_00]: collection of white papers from think tankers who by the way

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_00]: This is what think tankers do they write white papers

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why they're white papers. I don't know why they call them white

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming they are on white paper, but maybe it's racism. I don't know

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_00]: But they this is what they do they write stuff

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_00]: They're like hey, here's a policy that I think should totally be in place and they write like 6 000 words on it and nobody reads them

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: project 2025 is a thousand pages long

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody has read this

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's the template

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That both of these outlets follow and then of course

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: their their coverage

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: will

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_00]: be

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Will be abbreviated. They'll you know, they'll do a ripped from the headlines kind of

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Advertisement like the democrat and left-wing super PACs and stuff

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: They will they will do the little you know like the images of the headline

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_00]: With you know like torn out of the newspaper

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_00]: As if anybody reads those things anymore the dead tree copies at least and so they'll take the the headline and they'll put it up on the screen

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And they know this the the journalismers know this

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, they are providing ammunition to one political candidate. They understand this

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_00]: There's what I say anybody that tells you if they're a reporter or a journalist and they say, you know

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a participant in politics first off. That's not true because as I said

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I pulled the voter cards for all the guys involved and they are regular voters

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: They vote in they are a voters

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They vote in all the primaries democrat primaries, of course and all the general elections. They are

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_00]: participants in the arena

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm not involved. I'm just documenting for the historical record

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Right because history needs to know if somebody watched porn. That's that's what you're telling me

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_00]: How about this? Why don't we assume everybody has how about that?

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, just assume every single candidate running for office has watched porn. Is that disqualifying for them?

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Do we need to find people who have never watched it? Is that the idea?

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the idea you can never if you want to run for an elective office

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna have to check a box that says you've never watched porn. Is that what we're going? Oh, no

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You see you don't care. You don't actually care if somebody watched it

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You only care

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_00]: If that person

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That person that's opposed to me and as I said earlier

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_00]: They're making this connection between you know, mark robinson criticizing the books that are on the library shelves

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Calling them pornography and they shouldn't be in the school libraries and they should not be in the school libraries

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You could be the biggest pro porn activist and still say these books should not be on the shelves in a

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_00]: In a public school library

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Where kids can see them

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Those two positions

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Are are exclusive of each other

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But even so somebody who has a history of you know watching porn

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I would think that he would be actually well qualified to make that determination

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a piece by keila barch

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: At national review called so long social conservatives question mark

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And this came out

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_00]: After jd vance was announced as trumps running me

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_00]: and

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a uh, a deluge of both glowing reviews and fierce critiques

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Flowing from journals of opinion

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Undoubtedly and ironically mainstream media will continue to skewer vance for being a christian nationalist

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Although he's a catholic convert vance's social policy positions have moved to match trumps

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Which are not actually particularly christian or conservative

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: The family values quote-unquote that have here to for define social conservative

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Conservatism being pro-life

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Pro-traditional marriage right they've been traded out of the current g.o.p platform in exchange for a short term jolt of populist power

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Once again

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: these journalismers

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't seem to understand

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That this argument doesn't matter anymore

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_00]: They really really want to highlight look at the hypocrisy. He's not really a christian

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_00]: In the hopes to sway that voting block

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But the republican party is way ahead of you on that

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_00]: All right

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[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That's pete at the pete callinershow.com. Let's head over to the phones and talk with chris. Hello chris. Welcome to the program

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Always good to talk to you. I do have a question about project 2025. I don't know how much

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You read of it. You got the basis like I do

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: What i'm seeing it packaged as is that

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_02]: at least from less intelligent people it's like

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Trump gets into office

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And instantly all this stuff is it's true. It's it's what is so in project 2025. Is this stuff

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, must this stuff i'm assuming has to run through congress and everything do to become law

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, yeah, obviously. I mean they're talking about about what it is is the wish list

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: from hundreds of different

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: conservative

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: think tank people

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a it's a wish list and it would need to run through the legislature and it would obviously get

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know some of it would get challenged in court by leftist organizations

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I am sure right but that's the that's the idea

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's no there's no indication that trump goes along with this or that congress goes along with the various proposals. These are

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the the republican national convention also they they post

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of there nothing most of that is irrelevant to project 2025

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_02]: But I guess my point is kind of like

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of how it's packaged and it's thrown out there as it's instead and that's what makes it kind of dangerous

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But they do have i'm not saying it's true, but they have about supposedly there's several

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_02]: prompt people that went on into

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, what's their name? I forget the name of the organization that did it

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_02]: They they they were former employers of

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Trump and now went into this think think tank

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So there's there's that there but but it's kind of packaged like I said is all of a sudden this

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like these people missed schoolhouse rock

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just a bill they like totally missed that idea and this stuff has to become law before any of it

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be hashed out, but it bothers me

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So I mentioned before and I'm a stickler for this because I've I started to kind of take it in my own with dunning kruger

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Dunning kruger kind of the idea on

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_02]: ignorant and

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_02]: People don't know what they don't move and it kind of goes into human stupidity

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And like I said, I don't argue to call anybody stupid, but we should recognize stupid people

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_02]: That in relation to politics

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_02]: They like my friend laura. She posts this stuff about project 2025 as if and she doesn't even know what to think about it

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_02]: She can't no remember a lot of stuff

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: My question in relation to say dunning kruger

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Um as time goes by in our government and in our way of life

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I get the feeling that ignorance and stupidity increases and we you know, we'll talk about the

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_02]: government school system and the dumbing down a society

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And that kind of doesn't bode well for us and those of us that are reading up and understanding this stuff

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And that bothers me. That's why it's a stickler. So for me

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I wake up every single morning

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: With the express statement

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And what I mean by that is I don't know a whole bunch of things

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And I sat out through my day and i'm a truck driver

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So I've got to listen to a whole bunch of stuff, but I kind of out verify my stuff and everything

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, but no it's

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It's important chris to always be learning and if you approach it from the perspective that you're approaching it from

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you're better suited for it. Um that you don't know what you don't know

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So find out stuff learn stuff and then you'll realize. Oh, I don't know way more than I actually thought I did

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and that's the and that comes with wisdom in age. I do agree

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but no this if you want to see like we are we are in the prequel to idiocracy the documentary

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Idiocracy we're in its prequel and I appreciate the call chris

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_00]: The that mankind gets stupider at an alarming rate

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what we are living through. I am firmly convinced of it

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: We are becoming dumber

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: We have all the information in the world everything that humans have ever learned

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Ever good stuff bad stuff right wrong

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You know facts fiction all of it you've got it all in the palm of your hand

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And when you're not looking at cute cat videos, right?

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You're spreading a bunch of junk

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And you and we're getting stupider in that amazing. We have all of this information and people are getting dumber

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It's what it seems like

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_00]: They're lacking in the ability to critically think about things. It's just become, you know teams

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm on this team. You're on that team. So therefore if you're for it. I'm against it

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just it's just dumb. It is just dumb

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Um and on the project 2025 stuff

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, people don't know their civics

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And there are a lot of people

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That want and it's not there are a lot of leftists that want a president to just do a bunch of stuff

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, there are also a lot of people on the right too that want the president to do a lot of stuff

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I do not

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I do not I don't want a king. I don't want a daddy figure running the government

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You shouldn't either nobody should

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So these people who are like, oh my gosh. Yo, it's you know, it's project 2025 and they're gonna

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, they're gonna do all of this stuff to us Trump's gonna get in there and he's gonna do this stuff

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't he didn't write any of this stuff. And what about trump makes you think

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That he ever would read project 20-20. Why do you think he would even you think he's the kind of guy?

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean people who hate donald trump

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think he's the kind of guy that's going to sit down and read a thousand pages of think tankers on policy?

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Really

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Really

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And yes, some of the people that worked for him went to work at heritage foundation

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You know why because that's what these types of people go and do

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_00]: They go from

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Foundations and think tanks into government and then back out and they do it on the left as well

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