I am now an expert on tech, national security, and Chinese honeypots | Hour 1

Just want to make sure everybody is still alive after the great Microsoft outage of 2026. You know, all of a sudden, working from home. Yeah, kind of got exposed there to a little bit of a vulnerability. Right? Plus also it's, you know, Friday the 13th. And we had the ouster of the, or ousting of the NVIDIA guy. So.... I mean, it did seem like that was three of the four horsemen of the apocalypse coming. I think awfuls are the fourth. Look, I have watched a couple of TikTok videos helpfully provided on the Chinese communist propaganda platform. I've also read a couple of articles about Jensen Huang or Huang, Huang, Huang. Not really sure. I've heard it both ways. I think it's Huang, but I don't know. And Huang is funnier to say. It's more fun to say, you know, slight problem. The, uh, alleged Chinese communist spy that he was having the affair with that may or may not have now implicated national security interest, uh, She's also. Named Huang or Huang. So do I go with the Huang Huang affair or do I go with the Huang Huang affair? And yeah, yeah. Like one of those just sounds more funny. It's kind of like because we had the Fang Fang affair, right, with Eric Swalwell. Whatever happened to that guy? Is he in prison? Is he in prison yet? Anyway, we had the Fang Fang, and now we could have the Huang Huang. See what I mean? It's just, just from a branding standpoint, I feel like, or you know what I could do? I could mix it up. I could go Huang Huang. I could do that. And this way you would know which person I'm talking about. Maybe I should do that. Maybe I should forego the chuckles and and use two different pronunciations. Just for clarity's sake on the radio, because it's more. Difficult, you know, to. If I'm saying Huang, which Huang am I talking about? Right? You don't know. If I say Huang this, Huang that, and you're not going to know which this or that is the Huang from NVIDIA or the Huang from the Communist Party. So I think I'm going to refer to Jensen Huang as Huang. And I'm going to refer... to the honeypot, alleged honeypot, as Huang. And I have her name here someplace, her first name. It'll pop up here at some point. Because as I said, now that I have watched a couple of the TikTok videos and I've read a few articles, I am now a certified expert in AI, Chinese technology sectors. international foreign relations, espionage, and a couple of other, you know, related fields. Look, what I know about. NVIDIA, what I have known about NVIDIA for a very, very, very long time as a Gen Xer who grew up gaming, well, not really grew up, gaming was really like, I mean, yes, we had like Atari, Nintendo, and that sort of thing as kids. Actually, I didn't. We got our Nintendo when I was in high school. But when you do the PC gaming and you're building, you know, personal computers and stuff, NVIDIA was always, to me, they were the graphics card people. They were the graphics guys. So that was, but yeah, so somewhere along the way, this guy Jensen Huang turned the company into this, like, very, very successful, like the most profitable company or highest value company, whatever it is, on the face of the earth by doing the supercomputing chips. So just by way of background, what I have been able to ascertain on this is that these chips are very important. Okay? So just, you got to keep that in mind. The chips that NVIDIA makes are very important. For a lot of reasons. I won't bore you with all of the reasons why they are very, very important, but they are very important. There are various applications that they can be useful in. I won't bore you with all of those useful applications, but rest assured, they are very important and useful applications, okay? And so China really, really wants them. Because they're trying to catch up to us in the AI race. Okay? Which is why they're spending lots of money on building data centers. And it's why they're setting up a whole bunch of front companies to buy the chips that they're not allowed to buy from NVIDIA. And that's what Wang... had set up, apparently, was a front company to buy the chips from NVIDIA. And you know what? If you can seduce the CEO, and then maybe while you're staying overnight at his place, maybe get a peek at his laptop or something, I don't know. But the Tricoms could learn a lot, but also they could get the chips because they really, really need the chips because the chips are, right, very important. China is not allowed to buy the best chips. This has been a bipartisan thing under Trump, under Biden, right? They said no, no good chips or no best chips to China, not allowed to have the best chips because of China gets the best chips. First off, they can put them into their data centers. They can use them for their super compute applications, which are, as I mentioned, very useful. Okay. So we don't want them to have these chips. But again, We did allow, the government did allow NVIDIA to sell some of their lower tiered chips. Okay, so you got like a good, better, best model. You can have the good ones, but not the best. The best ones we're keeping. Also, this has severely limited China and their ability to build the data centers necessary to do the supercomputing, to do the AI development, to build out this AI industry, which, by the way, they have been interested in doing. I'm not sure if people are aware of this. China has been on the path to building its own AI industry for a little bit, about 10 years. They've been pumping hundreds of billions of dollars into this sector, but they have been limited to by their inability to get the chips, the very important chips, okay? Like to the point where, you remember maybe. About a year ago, and they came out with some big announcement that some Chinese company had created like a large learning model, like ChatGPT or whatever, and they created something, but it used like way less compute power, and everybody was in awe of the way they were able to do it. I look back on that and I think, I wonder if they had to do that because they don't have the cloud capacity. They don't have the compute capacity to actually build out one of these large models. So they had to basically do a small model that acted as if it was a large model. So when you needed it for something, it would activate that area and it would only focus on the one thing that you needed at that one time. So these are the restraints or constraints that China is dealing with. So they really, really want the very important chips to do useful applications. Okay. And Jensen Huang wanted to sell to China. He wanted to sell this stuff to China, apparently. And he said, you know, they're just going to, if we don't sell it to them, then they're going to build it themselves. Which I don't know if they I don't know if they can, but if you give them a bunch of chips, they're definitely going to be able to like reverse engineer it because that's kind of what China does, right? They don't invent stuff a lot. They just, they rip it off. See, this is engineered because that's kind of what China does, right? They don't invent stuff a lot. They just, they rip it off. See, this is what a crash course in all of these areas on TikTok. This is the expertise. The holidays will be here before you know it, and. So now is the time to create precious and priceless family heirlooms that will last for generations. Take your old. Photos, slides, films, and tapes to Create-A-Video in Mint Hill. There, they'll turn those memories into the story of your lives, memories from past family events captured forever to pass down to future generations. 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I mean, it's totally a blown-out proportion. And everybody sends their products. Like, every iPhone and everything that Apple makes is made by the Chinese Communist government. We give them the processor information. They manufacture the iPhones. And they make a couple to keep for themselves to give out to people, you know, that can have phones over there. But, you know, I've never understood that. I mean, if you turn on your Apple phone, it's going to say Made in China on the back. So, you know, I think they're overkilling this thing, especially since you can go. What do you mean over? Who is they? What do you mean by overkilling? And what is this thing? The whole United States government. I mean, think about it. Okay, the government. Hang on. No, no, hang on. Hang on. I'm trying to get clarity on what it is that you're arguing. So you say, okay, so the they is the U.S. Government. You say the government is overkilling this thing. What is this thing? The processor and the girlfriend and all this other stuff. Because we shouldn't even be taking this business. Okay, so the government is overkilling the processor and the girlfriend. Right, because we probably sent them the processor, the mass factor, and some device. Well, that's what NVIDIA... has been doing, they've been selling to these front companies. But what I'm saying is you're not supposed to be selling some things to China, but correct. China. But see, the thing is, if you're in China right now, when I was over there visiting, I was able to order something off of eBay and have it delivered there and had no problems at all. Get the ship to me. And then it went right to customs. No problem at all. Were you buying the, was it the H 800 chips? I was buying, like, memory and stuff like that. But were you buying the 800 series? No, I didn't need that because that would have overpowered my computer. Yes. Also, that would have been illegal. Well, see, the thing about it is. Were you able to purchase the 800s? No, I didn't try. But they were on eBay for sale. Right. Well, but, I mean, if you're going to eBay and you're trying to buy them and then you want them shipped to China. Right. That would be where that would get blocked. But so many people have sold stuff on eBay and it's been shipped to China and nobody stopped it. Well, I'm talking specifically about the 800, the best of the best line of the chips. So, like, are you saying that people are buying them on eBay? Yes. And you have direct knowledge of this? You can buy them anywhere. I mean, you can go on their website. I'm talking about buying them specifically, though, in China. Because if you're trying to buy them in China off of eBay, then the law would prohibit those shipments from occurring. Well, they're supposed to, but believe it or not, 90% of them probably, it depends on your carrier. It really does. It depends on the carrier. If you're using FredEx, DHL, or one of these. But who you're buying from. I mean, the key is who are you buying them from? Because whoever's selling them, whether it's on eBay or direct-to-consumer, whatever, whoever is selling you those chips into China, they're violating the law. Well, see, that's just it. They're saying they're enforcing stuff, but when it comes down to reality, it depends on your shipping company. It's like Tuma or Tuma, whatever you call it. They ship stuff by these two or three shipping companies I've never heard of. Their stuff's never scanned, never checked or anything. It comes straight over here. Again, that's the shipping company. What NVIDIA has been doing is, and the Tricoms have set up these little fake businesses to buy the chips. And so it's acting as like a cutout to buy the chips, and then the chips get smuggled into China. Right. Well, the biggest thing, I bet you when we do some digging, we'll find out that actually some of those chips are probably already manufactured in China. Because that's who manufactures them. No, they're manufactured in Taiwan, I believe. Yeah, but I'm going to tell you somewhere, somebody in China has massacred them. No, they can't. That's the problem that the tricoms have, is they cannot manufacture a duplicate chip. So here's the thing, too, is that the manufacturing process is so advanced, and there are only, I think there's like two companies on the face of the planet that make the equipment to make these types of chips. And they're not allowed to sell that equipment to the Chinese. That's why they're buying the chips is because they can't manufacture. They don't know how to manufacture the chips themselves. But they want the compute power, and so that's why they're buying up the chips. Yes, that's when you take, right, some people that belong, I mean, some hardcore Chinese people. You put them, get them employed in there, and then you start running technology, everything. You get them in as maintenance employees, janitorial, security, anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be the type of corporate espionage that the CHICOMs are alleged to have done against NVIDIA with the CEO, Jensen Huang. Or Huang. Sorry. I guess he should be Huang. Basically, anything we manufacture or have You know, they can get a hold of it. Don't let them fool you. Right, but again, nobody is denying the Chinese trying to get the stuff. I don't think anybody is fooled that the tricoms successfully do get their hands on chips. That's not, nobody's. I don't disagree with that. I mean, that's at the heart of this very case, right? The issue is, do you allow for the Tricoms to buy them, or do you force them to do these types of things in order to get their hands on the chips because they're not allowed to buy them? Well, the biggest thing I see the problem is, until we crack down on some of these little independent shipping companies, there's no way to stop them. Well... Because everything going in and out of customs, only 1% of it checked. Right, yeah. So, yeah. I mean, that is a problem. But again, if you're not making the sale, then there is no shipment to occur. So the idea has been, and the legislation has been, to prohibit the sale. Yeah, but see, once you buy the item from them... Basically, it's your item. So if you turn around and resell it on eBay, and you don't. I understand all that, but again, you keep going to the shipping, and I'm saying it's starting upstream from that, right? Right. So you're not allowed. Right, so that's why they have these prohibited lists of companies that are not allowed to make purchases. Well, the problem is they just changed the company name. I agree. I agree, but that's at the heart of this thing. So, okay, I think we're kind of talking in circles. I appreciate the call, Jim. I don't know what the. All right, real quick. Every government number gets revised, right? Every projection gets walked back. Gold does not file corrections like GovCo. Revelation Gold Group helps families hold physical gold and silver, including in a tax-advantaged gold IRA. It's real. It's in your name. And 10 minutes tells you if your retirement account qualifies. If you want to learn more, go to Calendarmetals.com. That's Calendarmetals.com. There is a link in the podcast description. Or if you want to talk to somebody, you can call 888-465-3049. Yeah, I don't. Know. I feel like I was– I feel like Jim and I, we were talking past each other. I'm not sure we were talking about the same thing there. I don't– and I just– I did not understand. That's on me. I'm the professor. communicator here. So, that's on me. I did mention the 800 series chips. And again, this is the kind of knowledge you pick up when you do. The two-hour crash course on this topic. So. The 800 series, there's the A800 and the H800. And these are modified versions of the A100 and H100 chips. So they made them 800. They added 700 onto the 100. And so these were engineered with reduced interconnect bandwidth. to meet U.S. government export controls while remaining viable for large-scale AI training and inference. Okay? So these were the chips that NVIDIA was doing because the 100s, we did not want the Chinese to get the 100s. But then the 800s, These were being used by the Chinese tech giants like Alibaba and Baidu and Tencent. Tencent, by the way, bought up a bunch of video game properties. That's a video game developer. What's the other one they own? Do they own TikTok? No, that's ByteDance. Okay. And so I remember this was a problem about 10 years ago because there was a video game that I played that was developed by American developers, and their company got bought by Tencent. And all of a sudden, you had all of these players from China that were joining in on the games, and they were. Wreaking havoc, and it was just craziness. U.S. Regulations have since tightened, leading to the ban— on the export of both the H800 and the A800, okay? So the chips are necessary for more demanding workloads. The 800 model provides up to 30 times inference speedup for large language models compared to previous generations, utilizing 14,592 CUDA cores and 456 tensor cores in some configurations. Okay, I'm just reading that part. I have no idea what any of that means. I'm just letting you know. In case you know what that means, now that's what that means. Okay. Let me see here. The Hellions. Says China would probably still not be able to get a rocket off the ground had they not stolen the know-how after we moved oversight from the State Department to Commerce or vice versa. That was the whole Los Alamos thing under the Clinton administration, I remember. Also, it's my understanding, the graphics card coding is very close to the coding that's needed for AI, so it's hardware and a lot of know-how in Taiwan. Spencer the Astro Nerd says... there are only about 10 machines in the world that can do the extreme ultraviolet etching for the chips that are up to 2 billion transistors per chip. Have you seen the size of a chip? They're pretty small. Like chips are pretty small. Like this is actually a sign of intelligence, um, across the board. Um, the more intelligent, the more complex systems can be reduced to smaller footprints. This is the whole intelligent design argument. Remember that from about 15 years ago and that about, you know, the existence of God, when you look at DNA, like how do you look at something that complex and that tiny, right? That's the sign of intelligence that can do something like that. All right. So back to Spencer's text, he says, The wavelength of the laser is the key to this process. The extreme ultraviolet light is very difficult to produce and control when etching these silicon chips. It's so difficult to control the extreme ultraviolet laser light that instead of the laser moving back and forth on the chip, the chip moves back and forth in front of the laser to produce the transistors needed in that density. There you go. That makes sense. Right? Like the laser is so powerful that you don't want to be like, and maybe you can't. It's so hard to control. You can't make it move in this tiny, tiny, tiny intricate pattern necessary. So it's easier to just like lock in the chip to the movable grips or whatever and have the chips move around in front of the laser. Maybe that was their their breakthrough at NVIDIA. John says, wait, are you getting your Chinese tutorial from Chinese government-controlled TikTok? Yes, but of course. I mean, why not go right to the source? Hello? All right, okay, you got me, John. I don't, I do not use TikTok at all. Don't have an account. I don't do anything over there. Nothing. I want nothing to do with those chai comms. I always said, Pete, you can make any interesting topic. However, there's a big butt coming. Yes, I could smell the butt coming. Even the sex can't make this story sexy. Joe says, Pete, you got to watch the chips from China. They say they are made with avocado oil, but they are not. Uh, have you, have you considered this is a Democrat PSYOP? Uh, hello. I've been saying the commies all this time. What do you think I'm talking about? 704 number says the timing of this story is too perfect now. Okay. To be fair, the New York times actually first did the first story on this like a year ago. So this has been out there apparently. Um, the Trump administration was told about this. In fact, here, hang on. I have a, uh, I have an audio clip. Um, and that is what, what's happening with Jensen Wong, uh, and NVIDIA. There've been reports, Scott Besant that on CNBC. Between you and secretary Lutnick about why, um, uh, mega speed was not placed on the entity list. And I, I'm just wondering about the interagency coordination. Could treasury have done that? Was it, Was it only— Commerce.— Lutnick that could have— Commerce that could have done that? What about the coordination? Yes. Well, I can tell you there was coordination. Treasury, War, USTR, and State, they were in favor of putting Megaspeed on the entity list for months. But Commerce has the pin. Commerce BIS has the pin. And you will have to ask them about their internal processes. Oh, right under the bus goes Ludnick. So Besson was like, hey, we tried to put this Chinese cutout firm, we tried to put them on the entity list, the ban list. Eric Erickson, the talk show host out of Atlanta, he said he's not sure if this whole Jensen Huang Huang scandal is is as big as some think. He says, but I do, but I know, I do know we should wonder who else China has tried to compromise. Yes. And the Qataris as well. Let's throw them in too. Yes. People that are in the quote unquote elites category, These people have been feasting off of foreign government money for a very long time. And it's all in the universities. Right. The Confucius centers. We've been talking about that thing for years. It's like these people are not they're not serious or they are they're on the take. I don't. I don't know what else to say. Like how, how is it that I can see this stuff? And I'm just, you know, some little old radio host in Charlotte. Like what, what do I know? Except I read these articles and I'm like, huh? Wow. Chai comm seemed pretty intent on, you know, destroying us. We should probably not let that happen. I just, and I'm just spitballing there. Rodney says, Pete, it's Wong Wang. Well, I mean, okay, that is fair. Maybe it should be Jensen Huang and Alice Huang. Maybe he should get the Huang. Right. Reed says, thank you for the correct pronunciation of important. Yes. I do pride myself on my pronunciations. Mike says, loving the extra dose of sarcasm today. What, what sarcasm? What are you talking about? Yeah. SC, who says, thank you for the different pronunciations. It is very helpful so that I don't think you're talking about the Wong Wang. I do not want, yes, I want to make it perfectly clear that I'm speaking about the correct Wang, not the Wong Wang. Danny says, let me get this straight. We have a minimum two fronts on the AI race slash war against China. One front is the computer chips. Yes. The second front is the data centers. Correct. With the latest news in the computer chip front, the Democrats want to investigate Trump for malfeasance in his dealings with NVIDIA. Yeah, because apparently, by the way, Lutnik's kids have like hundreds of millions of dollars of investments in NVIDIA, which I'm sure had nothing to do with any kind of dealings that Lutnik was allowing NVIDIA to do. I don't know. So. Yeah, Jay, I wonder why corruption was such a big issue in the election. Anyway, so yeah, so did they go after Trump? You know, impeachment articles over national security implications, all of that. And then on the other front, you got the data centers. Politicians from both sides of the aisle are engaged in malfeasance by inflating false claims and fallacies. So in this battle slash race, we're getting our tails kicked on both fronts. Yes, that's pretty much it. Yeah. Again, you have the front. We went over this yesterday with that dumbass up in Landover who's celebrated as some hero activist because she blocked a $ 5 billion data center project on literally a vacant lot that's been vacant for 20 years. Can't build a data center. And then you find out, oh, her whole campaign was funded by the party for socialism and liberation, which is funded by Neville Roy Singham, who's based out of Shanghai guys. Like, I don't even want to say connect the dots because like there, it's not even really like a process of, Oh, well look at these dot that dot, this dot, this dot, this dot. And I have to like chart some crazy course. I don't have like Charlie day on the blackboard. I don't have to do all of that. It's basically just two dots and a line between them. Okay. China does not want us to have more compute power. They are lagging. They cannot catch up, keep up. And so they want us to hamstring ourselves. Very simple. Two dots, China, us, that's it. Um, Oh, I forgot to finish this text from the 704 number who said, is this a Democrat PSYOP? Um, Democrat. We know Democrats are anti AI and anti data center. And all of a sudden, because of this story, they're looking to investigate tech deals and supposedly a Trump China connection. This also gives them an excuse to pass business crushing regulations and possibly destroy Nvidia, which is at the center of the AI revolution. Yeah, correct. There are a lot of bad actors that will dare. I say it pounce or seize upon this story and to advance whatever their cause was, which, as we all know, the issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast. So if you'd like, please support them, too, and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to the Pete Kaliner show dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening and don't break anything while I'm gone.