Human trafficking in the Queen City (11-18-2025--Hour2)

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They were seeing like half a million crossings a year under Biden, and they're down to like twenty five hundred in the Darien Gap. And that's a good thing. See, if you actually care about the safety of the people that are making that trek, then the safest thing is to not make that trek where they will be abused, They'll be robbed, they'll be raped, they'll be kidnapped, trafficked. Right, that's what happens along the human smuggling routes. And to you know, to defend this kind of a system and this open border philosophy, Democrat like to me, the mask is off now for Democrats like this. What they want is amnesty for everybody that's here. And I've gone over before in the last hour. You know, the impact on electric elections. There are many reasons and that's what's got the magitated about the enforcement actions. All Right, a lot of people laying in on this. I got a bunch of messages to get to and I'll circle back Pasaki style to the human trafficking story. First, let me start with the phones, and this is Corey. Welcome to the show. Hello Corey, how are you. Hey, sir? Thank you so much for taking my carl. Sure, just as someone sitting in the middle of the Democrat Republican debacle, I'm wondering, how are these people able to just point out someone and say, yes, they're illegal, wound them up. Then when they get them downtown, they may not be they may maybe it's like a fishing expedition that both parties are just coming up with verbs to allow this type of behavior to go on in the name of politics. All right, so I'll ask you exactly what the question I want to see the governor address, which is, what is your evidence to support this claim? Here's here's what my evidence would be. Well, when you grab that certain person, you can't even tell me if they're illegal or illegal? You don't, no, no, no, what's your evidence to support your claim that Border patrol does not know who it is that they're picking up. Because when I go to ask you after you pick them up, are they illegal or illegal? You can't answer it. Are you saying me or are you talking about Border Patrol? Border patrol? Border patrol of these cases? Right? Border Patrol has said they have compiled lists of the people that they are going after, and they will that's who they're prioritizing. But if other people get in their way, if other. People are wrong, that's wrong for them to get in a. Way, right, get in the way, or if they are there or if they are on like if they like you know, you're you're walking down on the street and they're targeting you, and I'm walking with you, and I'm also illegal. We're both illegal, but you're on the list. I'm not. And they show up to take you, They're going to ask me. And if I'm not legal, then I have no proof that I should be here. If I am legal, then I should be by law carrying my my identification papers and my permits to be here. True, that's the simplistic thinking. But how did they contract this list if they don't even have the documentation. Of arrest records? Arrest records, so. Now they're going off the arrest records and usual identification when they jump out right. So really like how they misconstrued the guys hanging up Christmas lights just misidentification? Well sure, that's what I know. I mean seriously, like if they if they are looking for somebody and they know Like for example, a lot of people came in with the asylum program that Joe Biden illegally, unconstitutionally implemented and mass Acienn everybody. Well, part of that asylum program was the CBP app. This was a phone app, so people applied for asylum and gave up their information to the federal government. So they just took that database and went around looking for those people in the database. It seems logical to me, right, if you know that you've got if you're going to cross reference people who went through the asylum. I'd been making so many mistakes of picking up people who were. Not Ee, how many mistakes have they made so far in Charlotte? It's too much? How many? You don't know, Corey? But Corey, you don't know of any We don't have any information that anybody was actually picked up that's not an illegal alien. So I don't know so far. No, I don't know. I'm telling you we don't know. No, Corey, I asked you not make a mistakes. I don't know if they're making mistakes, and you don't either. That was the point of me asking you, because you made an assertion. I asked for your evidence. You know, I'm actually in opinion about this because you're just guessing to stay in. The logic, right, you don't understand what. You're getting this information. How are you able to determine someone is illegal without documentation in your possession? Right? So, as I said, these are people that were arrested on charges, many of whom then went through our jail and were released by our sheriff because he does not cooperate with ICE. So that is, like you no, why he didn't cooperate too. Because he ran on a platform of not cooperating with ICE. Back in twenty eighteen, he said elect me Democrat. Was something in the policy that he didn't like. I just might be not. No, he's just a post He's opposed to working with ICE on immigration stuff. That's why he ran on a promise of scrapping the two eighty seven G program and that's what got him through the Democrat primary and got him into office. So the program needs to be looked into. See why he didn't want to go along. With No, there's nothing about the program that makes him not want to go along with it. It's he didn't want to go along. With it the program. Yes, he's a sociopathic, narcissistic, stubborn guy. Absolutely. Yes, I've covered it in great detail over the years. That's why I call him Gary not my fault McFadden, because nothing is ever his fault. Yeah, he ran on the platform. He did so to win the Democrat primary because that's where the incentive lies for that voter base. We do have a lot of psychological politicians out here on both sides of the feat. Oh sure, oh yeah, yeah, Well, it definitely takes a certain type of personality to get into that line of work, no doubt about that. You're absolutely right. Yeah, all right, Corey. I appreciate the call, buddy, Yes, all right, take care. Yeah, there's nothing wrong specifically with the program two eighty seven G. Every sheriff in North Caro virtually every sheriff in North Carolina still uses two eighty seven G. And the worst part of it was that the two eity seven G program we were Mecklimber County was like the second county in America. We were like right at the front of the line because our sheriff at the time, a Democrat, gym Penograph, heard about the program that was implemented out in Texas somewhere at some conference. He got information about it, and then he implemented it here. And all it is is a way to screen the people that are coming into the jail through the ICE database. That's it, so you know if they've got criminal records back in their home countries and they're here illegally. But no, no, no, we can't do that because if we'd see if we don't identify them when they come into the jail as illegal aliens, if we don't, if we blind ourselves to that information, now we don't have to do anything. We can just turn them loose. And that's how you end up releasing violent criminals back out onto the street and repeat, repeat, repeat, dui offenders. You know, stories are powerful. 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If they claim that they're a citizen of the United Kingdom, Canada, Mexico, Hondoras, whatever, then you ask for their immigration documents if they say they're a US citizen what state wereborn in? And people don't understand too. The Border Oftroll has the immigration checkpoints along the Southwest border on roads that every vehicle has to come into and me as a border trail agent, and when I entered them, when I was off and stuff like that, I was asked the exact same question, what country or. Your citizen of? Right? And it starts there. It's very simple. So do you think that the do you think, well, what do you make of these accusations that the border patrol agents that are rolling through Charlotte, that they're driving around just scooping up people off of the street racially profiling. I don't buy that at all. I don't buy that at all. I think they, like you said earlier were talking to. Corey, they have a list they've cross referenced with other federal databases, public record arrest records, and they're looking for certain people. When they encounter other people, basimply. Ask them what country you're citizen of? Right now? You gotta be careful too. You can't claim to be US citizen and not be US citisen that's actually a fellow me really, Yes, false clim of the USC. I did not know that claiming to be a US citizen when you are not, I assume when talking with a federal law enforcement official. Anytime you can't vote in a federal election. Oh that's true. Yeah, No, that's true. Yeah, I I guess I had never Yeah, I never thought about that. Oh that's interesting, right, So what do you make then of Well, I'll say it this way the way I know one of the pieces of evidence that I rely on when I'm looking at all of these videos on social media that people are posting against the accusation that they're just scooping people up. If they were, they would have scooped up a whole bunch of the people that were protesting, right, Like, if they're just going around picking up anybody, American citizens, everybody, right, just scooping up people based on racial profiling, Why wouldn't they just scoop up a bunch of people that show up at wherever they're doing their enforcement action, and you get an extra thirty people there, why wouldn't you just start scooping them up if you didn't care, right, if you're just willing nearly doing it, it seems like that would be the thing to do so, but they're not doing that. Yes, the Border Patrol is a very well organized, professionally run law enforcement agency and it's just like any other law enforcements, no different intwork police department. It has policies to go by, law to go by, and they are very professional. Now where they made mistakes, everybody makes mistakes, Every profession makes mistakes. Right in large, they're a great agency and they do a great job. Well, JJ, I appreciate the insight. Thanks so much. Thanks for service too, I appreciate it. Yes, Repete, all right, take care, Yes. Sir, Yeah, it's uh. I'm not going to claim, as JJ just said. I'm not going to claim that Border Patrol is going to make every decision correctly. I'm not going to defend everything that they may possibly do. No, I take things on a case by case basis. But here's the thing. You know, you can go over to their website and you can log in and you can put the people's names in. If you know their full actual name and their country of origin, you could find them in the system. So, like I'm thinking, if you know of somebody that's an American citizen that got detained and taken up in this operation. You should know if they're in the system or not. You would know, But we haven't seen any reports yet. I haven't seen any reports of American citizens that have been scooped up. I haven't seen any reports of people that were non violent, had no criminal record. I haven't seen anything like that. All I'm getting right now are these little short videos of people getting cuffed and put into vehicles, and that does not tell me anything other than what is on the video at that moment. I know nothing about what happened prior, and you don't either. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Ashville is your connection. Whether you're celebrating an anniversary, a honeymoon, maybe you want to plan a memorable proposal, or get family and friends together for a big old reunion. Cabins of Asheville has the ideal spot for you where you can reconnect with your loved ones and the things that truly matter. 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Hello John, Hey, hey, you were talking about what the process and procedures at ICE is employing my Bob Gun. I'm in construction of my manager. He was born in this country. He's twenty seven, well actually just turned twenty eight. He was called up in what he just called it as a sweep with guys just coming in indiscriminately entertaining people into asking fried ds, and he was one of them. So it is not a surgical procedure at all. Well that at least that well, that instance wasn't surgical, although it. Was no, but that's that's the m I don't think that they were just this this one instance happened, so I can't help but think that this is the general means of operating and it's it's pretty disturbing and pretty bad. And it shook him up bad. So why why did it shake him up badly? Because he's like, I didn't do anything wrong, right, and I'm now detained? What does that mean he was detained? He was taking someplace. No, but but the point is that he's a citizen, right, and he voted for Trump, right, and he's he's shaken to the core, like, you know, this is just this is an absolute violation. What why was Why is it a violation? You just heard from JJ who said that the first question they asked, are you a citizen of the United States? And he says he didn't. Well that's what JJ, the border patrol guys. Okay, but right, so that's the first question, Wait a minute. They don't need well, they don't need probable cause to ask you that question because it's because how you answer the question. If you say, yeah, I'm a US citizen, then it's like, okay, do you have you know? Driver? Where do you have a driver's license? Were you born where? What state were you born in? He said, like they've got a they've got like a set list of questions that they run. Through, right, but what's the probable calls for? You're saying they don't need probable calls for even asking that question. No law enforcement can ask you a question. I don't know. I think you need to check on that. It's it's like, uh, just take let's just take a. Probable cause to make a to make a traffic stop. But if a cop is walking down the street and I'm walking down the street and he says I that's a cop is not a good example because they're not border patrol. They got different powers. But the border patrol is empowered to ask those questions of everybody, Like, for example, as JJ said, when you're coming across the border, everybody gets asked the same question. Well, as smart as you are, I'm surprised that you can't make the distinction of what the Constitution. I don't think the Constitution is when it was written, was well, except in the case of border patrol or immigration questions, we can violate the Fourth Amendment. I guess it's the fourth Amendment. I see. And I don't believe that the probable cause test applies because you're not you're not making an arrest. No, you're might not rigging in arrest. But that's you remember when cops you set up roadblocks on Moehead or Sure whatever, and that that got stopped because of the violation of the presumption of guilt one people that had no signs of being guilty. And that was a violation of our constitutional rights. And I'm what scares me are the optics of this. Democrats always make Hey, hell they make hay out of nothing. Well they're really going to make hay out of this. And and I'm afraid what I you know, I'm in construction. I see it said, my god, no one's working right, legal or illegal, and it's it's I mean, our our jobs are for a halt. And and what scares me is is and I can't help but think the heavy handedness of the sweets. I'm going to use his words, but he was there and experienced it, not me. Is going to read down very negatively. Ultimately, you know, the Hispanic were in roads that were made and fifty four percent of Hispanic mails voting for Trump. I can't help but think that it's going to get eroded some because of. It's already going to happen. See my view want this like mag is already starting to splinter, that fight's already occurring. Donald Trump is already starting to hobble into his lane duck period. So whatever they got to get done, they have a short time period to get it done in And like fifty five percent of the polling shows Americans want illegal aliens deported, not just criminal aliens, illegally right and that and because of the because of the lack of enforcement, particularly in these sanctuary communities like Charlotte. Because of that, this is now what we have to go through in order to get people out. Maybe what other. Way is there, what other way is there that that that will allow for the kind of that will allow what I'm going to give you parameters because it has to be done within the next year or two, because when Trump is gone If Republicans don't win, then all of this goes away and open borders returns, and there. Be legislation at the federal level that says UH immigrations in the cases of immigration where local law enforcement UH comes into contact and determines or has reagionable calls to be known to them that this person is illegal, that was in the conduct of a crime and was to take right. So what you're doing is you're John You're constructing. You're constructing the scaffolding for amnesty, and I'm not for abuser. Sure, well, I think most people for amnesty. People have been here for twenty forty years. Nope, I think they are. I think why why then do fifty five percent say can deport all the illegal aliens? Don't? I don't believe correct what Trumps. They believed what Trump said when he said the worst first and he actually said we'll see and Trump offered amnesty. Do you remember back what was at twenty seventeen, you know, let me build the wall, I'll give you amnesty to the Democratic. Yeah, I'm not advocating that. So you can argue with Trump about what he thinks on that stuff. Right, I don't trust Democrats on immigration enforcement because every time they try to swap them out, So this is enforcement first, and you know it's gonna look messy, and it's gonna look messy because people who have been angling for amnesty for the last thirty years don't want to give up that ghost. So I appreciate the call. All right, if you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, And you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and it's a website and it combines news from around the world in one place so you can compare coverage and verify information. You can check it out at check dot ground, dot news slash Pete. I put the link in the podcast description too. I started using ground News a few months to go, and more recently chose to work with them as an affiliate because it lets me see clearly how stories get covered and by whom. The blind spot feature shows you which stories get ignored by the left and the right. See for yourself. Check dot ground dot news slash Pete. Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. Let me get Michael on here. I think he's got something relevant to add to the previous caller. Hey Michael, welcome to the show. Hey Pete, how's it going? Hey good Man, what's up? So I'm going to retire Maryland State trooper and we can stop people and ask them for IDs and stuff. I've dealt with all kinds of people up in that area, legal, illegal, diplomatic immunity. You don't have to have problem calls to stop some eye and ask. Them for ID. And basically that's what they're doing. It's no difference to ND licensed. Would you pull up and they ask you for your ID. There's no probable calls to stop you and ask for it. So you know your first caller or the caller before you, he was was a little wrong on that issue. Right, So Border patrol showing up at the work site asking an American citizen who is the site manager or whoever the work crew he fa, the chief guy asking him the first question that JJ talked about border patrol asking are uh yeah, are you a what citizen? Are you a country? Or what country you're a citizen of? I think was the first question he said. They're allowed to ask that question. Yeah, it's just yeah, you can. You can say that because you know that they're there doing that anyway, and they have the right to ask the question. Now if you don't respond, you don't necessarily have to respond, but then you know that that leads to other things. But yeah, you law enforcement has the right to identify who you are. Right, And that's why right, And that's why these you know, these uh how to you know, how to behave and what to do if you get stopped by ice, these these uh flyers that they're handing out and the you know, the the posts and stuff on social media's telling it's advising them of their quote rights. And what they're telling them is don't say anything. That's what they're they're advising people not to say. These immigration attorneys and stuff, they're saying, don't tell them anything. Just don't speak. So when they come up to you and they ask you the question, you refuse to answer. Well, now like they're going to start trying to figure out who you are, and now you may end up getting detained. So it's like it's still going to lead to if you're an illegal alien, it's probably still going to lead to the same result that you're going to get taken away. Possible. Yeah, because if I ask you like who are you and you don't speak to me and you keep walking, there's a point where you have to it crosses a threshold. But if you don't speak, then you don't necessarily have the right to detain up that point because really they'll not be entertained. It's like stopping frisk You roll up on somebody, or let's say you got like a call for a burglary or something, or a suspicious person. You pull up in a neighborhood and you see this person wearing all black. You get out and say, hey, who are you? You have the right to do that. Now, whether they respond or not, I mean, that's up to you. But there are different avenues that you can go down to do different things. But as far as I'm walking up asking who you are, and that's not an attainment that is just a stop it it's basically stop and frisk policy. So now, and if you you just not say, you know, I'm a US citizen whatever if you are, because if you don't, that's that's another. That's a felony. I learned today. It's a felony to say that you're a citizen when you're not. Oh yeah, so you know, I dealt with people like with diplomatic community and stuff that we're here. You know they wouldn't they were here legally, some un legally. So you know, there's just different avenues. You ask certain questions so that you know which direction to go down, right, Basically. Yeah, no, I got you, Michael. I appreciate the insight. Thanks so much. Thanks for your service too. Well, thank you all. Right, take care. Yeah, that's what I don't agree with John, the previous caller there, John, about his assessment that that's a Fourth Amendment violation. I don't believe that to be the case. They're allowed to ask you those questions. Now, how you respond, that's a different story. Let me do this real quick because I only have a minute left here before the newscast, and I have a bunch of people online. I got a ton of messages also, but I do want to finish. This story came from Fox News about human trafficking, identifying North Carolina as number nine in the nation. Charlotte's the worst in the state due to its interstate highway system, it's high demand for inexpensive labor, and increased amount of gang activity. That's why North Carolina is now ranked number nine. And part of the reason why Charlotte is a trafficking hub is because of the highway system and because of where we are located along that system. Right we are along the eastern seaboard, and we are between DC and Atlanta and Florida, and so any of those trafficking networks are going to roll through here, and so we are essentially a pit stop for human traffickers. The number of Charlotte residents falling victim to trafficking could partially be attributed to the prevalence of gang activity within the city, with criminal organizations maintaining a firm grip on the area's network, primarily the Bloods. They have a huge stronghold in human trafficking. According to the experts quoted in the piece, they're one of the primary organized crime groups responsible for trafficking in Charlotte. Yeah, who said we weren't world class? All right? That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to the Pete Calenders show dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.