This episode is presented by Create A Video – Democrats and media (but I repeat myself) are trying a novel campaign tactic by calling the GOP nominee for President Hitler.
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[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I have some breaking news to give you. I'm not sure if you were aware of this or not. But, this is brand new information. Apparently the Republican nominee for President is Hitler. I was not aware of this. This is, which is weird, because I feel like I kind of follow this stuff pretty closely, but maybe not.
[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But apparently, Hitler didn't die. And he has been alive this whole time, looking remarkably good for, I guess what, like 112 or whatever he is. And he dyed his hair blonde, which I think kind of makes sense, what with that whole master race thing going on.
[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: But he dyed his hair blonde and he dyed his skin orange and he shaved the mustache, became a billionaire and now is trying to destroy America and kill all of the Jews, which I think might include his son-in-law and his daughter and his grandkids, too, because they're all Jewish.
[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm unclear as to how that actually would work. But, literally Hitler, everybody, Hitler is running for President again.
[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, this is not something that Democrats and the media, but I repeat myself, throw around just all willy-nilly-like.
[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Never before have they ever called a Republican nominee Hitler.
[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, except for George, yeah, okay, except for George W. Bush for that time, well, actually like several years.
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, the whole term, really.
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, John McCain came along and he was like worse than Bush.
[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Mitt Romney came along, too, though, and I think they called, they said he gave people cancer, which seems kind of Hitler-esque, right?
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you think about it.
[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm. Weird.
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, just figured you should know that they're totally serious, not at all panicking, but they want you to know Donald Trump is Hitler.
[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Or Hitler is Donald Trump.
[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And a fascist, which is weird, too, because Hitler, like, killed a bunch of fascists.
[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: They were fighting all the time about things.
[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So, but regardless, that, this is on the ballot.
[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Hitler is on the ballot, even if his name isn't.
[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, you don't see people naming their kids Adolf.
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You notice that?
[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that name just kind of fell into disuse.
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Unuse.
[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Lack of use.
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Over, yeah.
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is not really fair to the name Adolf.
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't do anything, right?
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It just happened to be given to this, you know, this worst person that ever lived kind of thing.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And, uh.
[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah, Hitler on the ballot.
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, also a fascist.
[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Nazi and a fascist.
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Same.
[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like people who are using these terms might not know what the terms mean.
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just spitballing here, people.
[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm just trying to find the logical thread between these arguments.
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there you go.
[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's the, right.
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's the problem.
[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That's, all right.
[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my bad.
[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That is totally my bad.
[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought there was logic being applied here to some of the, uh, the, uh, analysts and their analysis.
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Analysis.
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Sees.
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: That is, that was my fault.
[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you'll, uh, you may not be aware of this because if you're only getting your news from
[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: my show, um, I didn't get to the audio from yesterday that I said I was going to.
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So my apologies, but, uh, I was out at the Mallard Creek barbecue yesterday and, um, whenever
[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: you're out on site doing a remote like that, really everything just kind of gets blown up.
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_01]: All of the show prep.
[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just all like, well, literally, cause like the wind was blowing everywhere and
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_01]: papers flying around.
[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So everything kind of gets blown up.
[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you're, you know, the, you can prep for stuff, but then it just, you know, it's just
[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: all improv at that point and on the remote.
[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So I never got to the audio.
[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So I apologize.
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I did not get to the Kamala Harris or sorry, Kamala, not a racist Kamala Harris, um, uh,
[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: audio from her, her latest CNN, uh, endeavor.
[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty bad.
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, also, uh, I'm going to give away some tickets.
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Not right now.
[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Not at this.
[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, hang on a second.
[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me do that.
[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: There we go.
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Busy the lines.
[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So now I've, I pressed a button.
[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So now all the phone lines are busy.
[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're trying to call, you're not going to be able to get through cause they're all
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: busy.
[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Because as soon as I say something like that, like, oh, we're going to be giving away tickets.
[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I get people start calling in and that's, so that's not how we're going to, we're going
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: to do again, the who said it game, who said it, I'm going to read a quote.
[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to tell me who said it.
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And it is related to the, uh, Kamala Harris appearance on CNN for the town hall, which was
[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_01]: actually more like a real town hall in the fact that they let people, townspeople, I
[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_01]: guess, um, they let the townsfolk, uh, ask questions of, uh, the queen.
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And which is nice because the last town hall that Kamala Harris did that was billed as
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: a town hall, the townsfolk were not allowed to ask questions.
[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Only the court jester was allowed to ask the question.
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So now, uh, at least we have an example of, uh, how she doesn't answer questions when,
[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: uh, presented to her by, uh, regular people.
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So let me start with, um, let me start with this clip.
[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Harris was asked, well, I don't have this soundbite.
[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, uh, I'm going to start with this other one first was that along the lines of
[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: how I started the, uh, the show, uh, she was asked point blank, does she think Donald Trump's
[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: a fascist?
[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And she said, yes.
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And so now everybody's all super excited about, uh, the fact that she called Donald Trump a
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: fascist because this is really all the left wants at this point.
[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_01]: They're just, it's just about calling people names.
[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, if you want to see this in action, um, if you can stomach it, Ben Shapiro, uh, sat
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_01]: down for, uh, I think it's called surrounded is the name of this, uh, YouTube channel.
[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah.
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm unclear as to the real value in these things, but people are doing them.
[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And so they're, you know, I, I mean, I I'm in the process cause it's like an hour and a half
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and they put like, in this case, it's Ben Shapiro.
[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They put him at a table in the middle of the room and then they surround him with 25 Kamala Harris
[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: voters.
[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they give them all these red flags.
[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So they all have one red flag and he will make a claim.
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: He reads a claim that he is like a position he is taking.
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they do a three, two, one beep countdown deal.
[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the 25 people jump out of their chairs to run over, to try to sit in the one chair that
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: is at the table with Shapiro.
[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not just Ben Shapiro.
[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I've seen, they've been doing this for a little while now.
[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And so they, it's kind of comical the way people race to get to the chair and they, you know,
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: barrel over people and, you know, some of their tactics are, are kind of comical.
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But whoever gets to the chair first gets to sit down and engage in a debate with Shapiro
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: at least until a majority of the 25 people with the flags sitting around them raise their
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: flags.
[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So when 14 people raise the flags, then that person has to, has to leave the table and then
[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: they do another three, two, one, and everybody races.
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you think the guy at the table isn't doing a good job arguing with Shapiro, then
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_01]: you raise your flag and get them out of there.
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And so what happens is it's actually hamstringing the, um, the people who are trying to engage
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_01]: in the debate because they feel all of the 25 people think that they could make much better
[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: arguments and spoiler alert, they can't.
[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to see what the left cheers for, watch this video.
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the things that get the most amount of support and applause is the Harris supporters
[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_01]: name calling Ben Shapiro.
[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: There is not an interest in actually engaging in good faith, rational, calm, dispassionate
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: debate.
[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That is not what is of value because honestly, whatever you think of Ben Shapiro, you can have,
[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: because I've seen him for years.
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He can engage in an honest debate with people in a dispassionate way without name calling.
[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He can do that.
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I can do that.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of people don't want to do that.
[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to stereotype or anything, and I'm not trying to minimize, but a lot of the
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: argument is just simply emotion.
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So when Harris was asked if she thinks Trump is a fascist and she says, yes, he's a fascist,
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: then that is what the left cheers for.
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: They just want, and I'm not saying that Trump doing the same thing or Republicans doing the
[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: same thing doesn't get cheers.
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I'm not saying that at all.
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But in this setting, you see it in its pure distilled form.
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And when Harris says it, this is the thing.
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: This is what is driving the most animated and activated base of the Democrat Party.
[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the question is, is it going to generate enough support for them going to the polls?
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And so far, it does not appear to be working.
[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It does not appear that the strategy of employing the Lincoln Project smears and attacks and
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: nastiness and that sort of those tactics, it does not appear that that is a winning strategy
[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_01]: to convince the mushy middle people, if you will, the undecideds.
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I just saw Mark Halperin.
[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He did a focus group with a bunch of undecideds.
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he could only find like six of them left in America, but he found them and he's
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: asking them about these kinds of attacks, calling Trump Hitler and all this.
[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're just like, it's absurd.
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: We're so over this.
[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like the overuse of any kind of a slur or an attack.
[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You use it too many times, you rob the word of its meaning.
[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The famous example is the term racist.
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You call everybody a racist, you call everybody a fascist, then the word doesn't have any
[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: meaning anymore and people just kind of tune you out.
[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So you've destroyed the value of that word because you don't know how to use it correctly.
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You just use it for everybody you disagree with.
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[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Kamala Harris gave the CNN a town hall.
[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It was hosted by Anderson Cooper.
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And she was asked.
[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember if this.
[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Anderson Cooper that asked her this question.
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Whether she had made any mistakes recently that she had learned from.
[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was a pretty good question.
[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a similar question, you'll recall, that Donald Trump was asked about seven years
[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: ago or so.
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Whether or not he had ever asked forgiveness for anything.
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And he said he couldn't remember.
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And I said, that's concerning.
[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you think that you've never made a mistake.
[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You've never had to ask forgiveness.
[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It was at a church or something.
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And so it was, you know, it was in that vein of asking God for forgiveness.
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm sure he thought, like, I don't want to say what I asked forgiveness for because
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to then get the follow-up, which is what was it for?
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So it leaves the impression that he thinks he's never made a mistake.
[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe he hasn't.
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So Kamala Harris has asked more of a secularized version of the question.
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Have you made any mistakes recently that you had learned from?
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Is there something you can point to in your life, political life or in your life in the
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_00]: last four years that you think is a mistake that you have learned from?
[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I've made many mistakes.
[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And they range from, you know, if you've ever parented a child, you know, you make lots
[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_03]: of mistakes, too.
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_03]: In my role as vice president, I mean, I've probably worked very hard at making sure that
[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I am well versed on issues.
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that is very important.
[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a mistake not to be well versed on an issue and feel compelled to answer a question.
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, wait.
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So are you saying that you've made the mistake of not being well versed on issues and then
[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_01]: answered the question?
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Is she saying that she made that mistake?
[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it didn't sound like that's what she says.
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_01]: She's worked very hard at making sure that I am well versed on issues.
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, one of the consistent criticisms of her from like all of the staffers that quit
[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: like 90 plus percent turnover attrition in her office in the first four years as vice president
[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: is that she does not actually read the briefing materials.
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_01]: She's not actually well versed on the issues.
[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe she's trying to tell us that she actually is now.
[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Also, she didn't raise any kids.
[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what she was talking about with the parenting part there either.
[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But there you go.
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me get to some messages here.
[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I got some more audio to get through as well.
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So Good Wahoo says on Twitter in a in a direct message, Mussolini was a socialist.
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So was Hitler.
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Nazi is the abbreviation for National Socialist German Workers Party.
[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Fascism is an ideology of the left.
[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_01]: The co-opting.
[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true, by the way.
[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And a better way of thinking of this is, first off, do you know why we call it left and right?
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It comes from the French Parliament, which why are we still doing anything if it came from France?
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my first objection.
[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So but a better a better scale is total government and zero government.
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Left and right.
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Left is total government control and right is zero government control.
[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Or anarchy.
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Anarchy is no government.
[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Tyranny is total government.
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And so what you want is to be someplace, in my opinion, and also an opinion shared by the founders,
[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: you want to be somewhere closer to the anarchy side of that scale.
[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my opinion and the founders, but that we wanted, you know, government at a specifically national level,
[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: but also local and state.
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But they were working on the national level.
[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And they wanted there to be as little government as possible that would control the states.
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was how they constructed the United States of America.
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a better scale, in my opinion.
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, back to the message from Good Wahoo, because, yes, fascism, socialism, communism, Marxism is all on that left side of the tyranny scale.
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That is more towards GovCo.
[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So, fascism is an ideology of the left, the co-opting of private industry by the state to advance the state goals.
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So instead of, say, communism, where the state owns the production, the means of production,
[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: then you have fascism, where you have this sort of facade of private ownership.
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But all of the ways that you operate are strictly governed by the state, by the government.
[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, you technically own the means of production.
[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You just don't get to decide how to operate those means of production.
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Both Hitler and Mussolini use this ideology in their rise to power and to secure their power,
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_01]: similar to what the left has been doing with companies such as Legacy Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.
[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So the left is literally engaged in projection.
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But what else is new?
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Russ says, I watched some of the clips of that Shapiro speed debating thing.
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone that I watched got into the chair and proceeded to verbally vomit canned talking points
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and didn't even pause when Ben knocked them down.
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: There are several callers, including attorneys, who should know better, who use a similar tactic on your show.
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I never participated in formal debate.
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But is this something that is being taught as effective?
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think it is.
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It's sort of the West Wingification of our discourse.
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe for a little bit more of a contemporary, although not exactly contemporary example,
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: the Daily Showification, the John Stewartification of our discourse,
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_01]: where you play the soundbite, you roll the clip, and then you're like,
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: oh my God, you're an idiot.
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Ah, ha, ha.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And everybody claps like barking seals.
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not actually an engagement in the argument.
[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But it makes people feel good, like a sugar high in that moment.
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the important thing.
[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's all emotion driven.
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Because people, you know, they attempt to engage in a debate and they are unprepared.
[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And they become insecure.
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: They become nervous, anxious, embarrassed.
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: When they start, because look, I get it.
[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you hear it too.
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I recognize this.
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: People call in and sometimes people are nervous.
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Being on the radio, you know, talking to a hilariously informed person like myself.
[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I understand that sometimes people get nervous.
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I try to, you know, calm their nerves a little bit so we can have a chat.
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think some of that goes on.
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And when you're, you know, you race to get into this chair and you sit down and now you're there and all the eyes are on you and the cameras are rolling and there's a clock running on the debate timer and people get nervous.
[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And they forget if they ever knew how to formulate an argument.
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if this is actually being taught by like, like teachers in a classroom.
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: God, I hope not.
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But I've seen some of the videos.
[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Brett Winterbull on his show has talked about some of this because Brett actually was trained in like formal debate and the rules of that.
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And these debate societies have devolved thanks to CRT infused indoctrination.
[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And they get up there like there was one winner recently, like last year, I want to say some team that won the collegiate debate society or whatever it's called.
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And their winning argument was that we shouldn't have to argue because systemic racism.
[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So they didn't even they didn't even make a counter argument to the actual claim that was being debated.
[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They just simply said that they shouldn't have to do that because systemic racist and all the institutions are racist.
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And so we shouldn't even be having this debate about this topic because racism.
[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And they won.
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, maybe it is being taught.
[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Kamala not running to the middle in the general election.
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Either she won't or they won't let her or both, says the hellion.
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the hell.
[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a Twitter handle.
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't pick other people's.
[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I just read them, people.
[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I think if you look at the strategies being employed over the last two weeks by the Harris campaign, the shift in that strategy indicates to me there is concern that she is not winning.
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it tells me.
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't make predictions on elections anymore.
[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_01]: 2016 disabused me of that.
[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not making a prediction as to who's going to win.
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: All I'm saying is I noticed there's been a shift in strategy and I don't think campaigns do that for no reason.
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So here is the quote.
[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Talking about.
[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So this is I'm going to give you a hint.
[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a CNN panelist.
[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody on one of the talking head panels.
[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_01]: After the CNN town hall with Kamala Harris.
[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is what the panelist said.
[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Quote.
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: When she doesn't want to answer a question, her habit is to kind of go to word salad city.
[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_01]: When she doesn't want to answer a question, her habit is to kind of go to word salad city.
[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Where I hear the grass is green and the girls are pretty, but I don't know that for sure.
[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I added that last part.
[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not the full quote.
[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So the CNN panelist said when Kamala doesn't want to answer a question, her habit is to kind of go to word salad city.
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So let's start off with John.
[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, John.
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_01]: What's your guess?
[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Gloria Vanderbilt's boy, Anderson Cooper.
[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it Anderson Cooper?
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, not Anderson Cooper, but a good guess nonetheless, John.
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Who's up next here?
[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike.
[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike, welcome to the show.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike, who said it?
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Pete, I'm sorry.
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I missed the question.
[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you repeat it?
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: The quote is when she doesn't want to answer a question.
[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that.
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Her habit is to kind of go to word salad city.
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, Pete.
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I have no idea.
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's honest.
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't even want to try a guess.
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't even want to guess at it.
[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Tim, what is your guess as to who said it?
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, Tim.
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Turn down your radio, sir.
[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You are live on the air, Tim.
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Got you.
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: How about Serpent Head?
[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Show me Serpent Head.
[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: James Carville.
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Also a good guess.
[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about a CNN panelist, so that was a good guess.
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Terry.
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the show.
[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, Terry.
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi.
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey.
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it J.D. Vance?
[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it J.D. Vance?
[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It is not J.D. Vance.
[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Richard.
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, Richard.
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome.
[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_01]: What is your guess?
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Would it be David Axelrod?
[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it David Axelrod?
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It is, in fact, David Axelrod.
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You are correct, sir.
[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Very nicely done, Richard.
[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to put you on hold there.
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And Steve is going to get some information from you so you can get your tickets to the News and Brews.
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That is going to be on Thursday.
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you didn't win, I believe there may be some other tickets floating around out there from some other hosts.
[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But I can't make any promises.
[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So you just go to WBT.com and get yourself some tickets.
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the actual quote.
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_04]: The things that would concern me is when she doesn't want to answer a question, her habit is to kind of go to Word Salad City.
[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And she did that on a couple of answers.
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_04]: One was on Israel.
[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Anderson asked a direct question.
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Would you be stronger on Israel than Trump?
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And there was a seven-minute answer, but none of it related to the question he was asking.
[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, on certain questions like that.
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_04]: On immigration, I thought she missed an opportunity because she would acknowledge no concerns about any of the administration's policies.
[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's a mistake.
[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes you have to concede things.
[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And she didn't concede much.
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'll tell you something.
[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_04]: John King mentioned Bill Clinton.
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_04]: No one's going to be Bill Clinton.
[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_04]: But you do want to relate to the people in front of you.
[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_04]: She didn't do a lot of that.
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_04]: She didn't ask them questions.
[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_04]: She didn't address them particularly.
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_04]: So she was giving set pieces too much.
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Word Salad City, where they serve a lot of Word Salad, as I understand it.
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I've read in the reviews, actually.
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Harris was asked, this is one of the immigration questions, whether she was wrong to oppose construction of a border wall.
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Under Donald Trump, you criticized the wall more than 50 times.
[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You called it stupid, useless, and a medieval vanity project.
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Is a border wall stupid?
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's talk about Donald Trump and that border wall.
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my gosh.
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Why?
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_03]: So, remember, Donald Trump said Mexico would pay for it?
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Come on.
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_03]: They didn't.
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So, remember, the question was, should you have said it?
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Is a border wall stupid?
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the question.
[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Is a border wall stupid?
[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And her immediate response is, let's talk about Donald Trump.
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's all they're focusing on is Trump bad, orange man bad.
[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_03]: How much of that wall did he build?
[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I think the last number I saw was about 2%.
[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And then when it came time for him to do a photo op, you know where he did it?
[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_03]: In the part of the wall that President Obama built.
[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But you're agreeing to a bill that would earmark $650 million to continue building that wall.
[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I pledge that I am going to bring forward that bipartisan bill to further strengthen and secure our border.
[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I am.
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm going to work across the aisle to pass a comprehensive bill that deals with a broken immigration system.
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Jackson's question, part of it, was to acknowledge that America has always had migration, but there needs to be a legal process for it.
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_03]: People have to earn it.
[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the point that I think is the most important point that can be made, which is we need a president who is grounded in common sense and practical outcomes.
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, let's just fix this thing.
[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's just fix it.
[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_03]: With a wall?
[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Why is there any ideological perspective on it?
[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's just fix the problem.
[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_00]: To fix the problem, you're doing this compromise bill.
[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It does call for $650 million that was earmarked under Trump to actually still go to build the wall.
[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not afraid of good ideas where they occurred.
[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So you don't think it's stupid anymore?
[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I think what he did and how he did it did not make much sense because he actually didn't do much of anything.
[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I just talked about that wall, right?
[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_03]: We just talked about it.
[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't actually do much of anything.
[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But you do want to build some wall?
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to strengthen our border.
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: There it goes.
[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't even answer the question.
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: That'll do it for this episode.
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