Election forecasts are just predictions (11-05-2024--Hour2)

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[00:00:28] On this election day, 2024, the day democracy dies. One way or the other. That's my understanding is that either way, right? Yeah, because you've got Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. These are the seven swing states that everybody is watching today. And so I'm trying to figure out a good acronym.

[00:00:57] I might have to actually add in like the first letter of each or sorry, the second letter along with the first letter of each state because otherwise I end up with like, pawn or something and it just it doesn't flow. So because I only have one is only Arizona and that that's the only vowel that I'm working with. It's very difficult here.

[00:01:22] Like these are the things that you don't even realize like I have to do as part of show prep and I just this I can't figure this one out. But see, the problem is if I add the second letter in like WI for Wisconsin and PE for Pennsylvania, then now I've got twice as many letters. I got 14 letters. That's going to be a crazy act. I'm going to you know what? Hang on a second. There's got to be some AI here.

[00:01:47] There has got to be an acronym program or something online. There's got to be some sort of a free thing. I'm going to try that. OK.

[00:01:59] All eyes are on these seven swing states and I do have hang on. Where is it? Yeah, here it is. Decision Desk HQ, which is actually a very good firm. Decision Desk HQ.

[00:02:12] I remember when they were launched years ago, they've probably been around now for over a decade and like their deal was.

[00:02:23] Exit polling and I think they've now expanded into pre-election data.

[00:02:30] And assessments and analysis, but they originally started this actually came from the conservative blog Ace of Spades.

[00:02:38] And they had their decision desk HQ that was part of that operation.

[00:02:45] And they were so accurate in their exit polling and when they would call races and such that they've now been folded into some other.

[00:02:55] They they broke off from Ace of Spades. I think they spun it off as a separate entity.

[00:02:59] And now I think that they've partnered up with like a major news organization, which I forget which one.

[00:03:08] But Decision Desk HQ, they did their presidential forecast and they are not calling this.

[00:03:16] And that's one of the things I like about Decision Desk also is that they they don't make calls based on where everybody else is going.

[00:03:25] But their calls are almost always correct. I mean, like virtually 100 percent correct.

[00:03:32] So first off, their electoral college forecast right now.

[00:03:40] Harris at 226 electoral votes, Trump at 219.

[00:03:46] So Harris is up by seven electoral college votes in the forecast.

[00:03:50] But but but but but but but 93 are toss ups still.

[00:03:56] Right. So this is this is why everything is still unpredictable.

[00:04:03] You have 93 electoral college votes that are up for grabs.

[00:04:08] These are toss ups.

[00:04:10] What are the probability?

[00:04:13] What are the probabilities that Trump wins, Harris wins based on polling and that sort of thing?

[00:04:22] So to.

[00:04:24] Find that number out.

[00:04:26] You got to go into the toss up states and look at the internal polling in these states.

[00:04:36] And.

[00:04:38] They then create a probability based on the polls.

[00:04:42] They create a probability for each of the states.

[00:04:46] And of these states, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina.

[00:04:53] And for some reason, they've got New Hampshire in there as well, which that would be crazy if New Hampshire is actually.

[00:04:58] In the mix for Trump.

[00:05:00] But they predicted going to Harris and they predict Michigan going for Harris.

[00:05:05] Yes.

[00:05:06] But every other state they predict going for Trump.

[00:05:10] But.

[00:05:12] The probability that that happens is still very low.

[00:05:16] So, for example, Wisconsin.

[00:05:19] Yes, their forecast is that Trump is likely to carry that.

[00:05:24] But it's only a 51 percent.

[00:05:27] So it's just so it's a toss up.

[00:05:29] Right.

[00:05:30] Pennsylvania, 53 percent Trump.

[00:05:32] Nevada, 53 percent Trump.

[00:05:36] Arizona, 61 percent Trump.

[00:05:38] Georgia, 65 percent Trump.

[00:05:40] North Carolina, 65 percent Trump.

[00:05:43] So then if you.

[00:05:46] Take those toss ups and you take that data that I just gave you and you plug it into their electoral vote projection.

[00:05:54] You now end up with Trump at 275.

[00:05:58] Remember, you need 270 to win.

[00:06:01] You're at Trump, 275.

[00:06:04] Harris, 263.

[00:06:05] Trump wins.

[00:06:07] And the probability that that happens.

[00:06:10] Republicans they're saying is 53 percent.

[00:06:15] Again, these are all predictions.

[00:06:18] It doesn't mean that this is the way it's going to go.

[00:06:22] Then you've also got the U.S.

[00:06:24] House up for grabs right now.

[00:06:27] You've got 220 Republicans, 212 Democrats.

[00:06:30] You need 218 for majority control.

[00:06:33] So Republicans have this to vote majority control margin right now.

[00:06:41] And according to the polling outfit, 538.

[00:06:46] Republicans win control in their simulations.

[00:06:50] They ran 100 simulations of this election and Republicans win control of the House in 52 of the 100.

[00:06:59] Democrats win control, 48 of the 100.

[00:07:04] If this election turns out to be.

[00:07:08] Like not even close one way or the other.

[00:07:12] This is going to be.

[00:07:16] Another in a what now three or four cycle series of embarrassments for the polling industry.

[00:07:26] Let me go over to Frank.

[00:07:28] Hello, Frank.

[00:07:29] Welcome to the show.

[00:07:30] Hey, Pete.

[00:07:31] How are you?

[00:07:31] I love your show.

[00:07:32] Thanks, sir.

[00:07:33] What's going on?

[00:07:34] Could you please explain?

[00:07:36] I never understood the electoral college.

[00:07:39] I was always under the impression if you win the populist vote of all the people, you win.

[00:07:44] No.

[00:07:45] But all of a sudden you could be a million votes ahead of the popular vote and then all of a sudden lose by an electoral.

[00:07:51] Right.

[00:07:52] How does that work?

[00:07:52] So the first thing to keep in mind on this is that the electoral college system was created as part of a compromise between the existing states that were self-governing and autonomous.

[00:08:07] Right.

[00:08:07] That they entered into a compact with the other states to create the United States.

[00:08:13] Right.

[00:08:13] So they were not like a small.

[00:08:15] So if you had a big state with a lot of people and you had a small state with not a lot of people, that small state was not interested in joining into a national popular vote.

[00:08:22] So what they created was this electoral college system.

[00:08:25] And so we do not have a national election.

[00:08:28] Today is not a national election.

[00:08:30] It is 50 state elections all on the same day.

[00:08:35] Think of it in those terms.

[00:08:36] All of the states are having this election on the same day.

[00:08:39] But we are all running our own elections.

[00:08:41] And so what they created was this formula that said however many members of Congress you have is however many votes you get in the electoral college.

[00:08:52] So every state is automatically guaranteed to have two U.S. senators.

[00:08:57] Right.

[00:08:57] So that means you get two of those votes and then you get one electoral vote for every member of the House.

[00:09:05] So in really small states, they only have one House member.

[00:09:08] And so they're going to get every state's going to get a minimum of three electoral college votes.

[00:09:14] North Carolina has 14 congressional districts.

[00:09:17] And so we have 14 House members.

[00:09:20] So we get 14 electoral votes.

[00:09:22] And then we have two Senate votes.

[00:09:24] Tack them on.

[00:09:25] So that's a total of 16 electoral college votes.

[00:09:28] That's how you get to the number.

[00:09:30] And the House of Representatives is based on population, based on the census count in 2020.

[00:09:38] Does that make sense?

[00:09:40] It kind of does.

[00:09:42] But I think I love I am an old timer and I just like to go to any kind of, you know, you belong to an organization.

[00:09:52] If you win all the votes, win.

[00:09:54] Right.

[00:09:55] Right.

[00:09:55] But that's not what we have.

[00:09:56] I know.

[00:09:57] I know.

[00:09:58] We have a pop.

[00:09:59] I mean, there is a popular vote for president in North Carolina.

[00:10:02] And then once you get a direction on, you know, when, say, Trump wins North Carolina, then he would get all of those electoral college votes.

[00:10:13] And those electoral college votes are based on the total population of that state.

[00:10:19] Right.

[00:10:20] Now, there are some states.

[00:10:21] There are some.

[00:10:22] Well, there are some states that are now starting to carve up their electoral college votes and and doing them in a proportionate fashion.

[00:10:33] So if Trump were to win, you know, 60 percent of the vote, he would get 60 percent of the electoral college votes.

[00:10:39] And to do it that way.

[00:10:40] So there are a couple of states that do it that way.

[00:10:42] And now there's this other push to have states a portion or to dedicate their electoral votes based on the popular vote outcome.

[00:10:53] Now, the problem with doing it as a popular vote means that you're only going to be seeing campaigns for for president in California and New York, Texas and Florida.

[00:11:06] Those will be the only states because they will determine the the president of the United States.

[00:11:14] And that's why the founders set up the electoral system.

[00:11:18] The way they did was because they did not want that to be the way that the president is picked.

[00:11:25] They want the president to be an executive that sort of manages the federal government.

[00:11:29] And they are not it's not supposed to be like you elect the House members.

[00:11:34] And that's why those people are directly elected to represent the people every two years.

[00:11:40] That's why they set that system up for the House.

[00:11:42] The Senate was supposed to be appointed by the state legislature.

[00:11:46] So they represent the state governments.

[00:11:47] And then the executive was supposed to be named.

[00:11:50] The president was supposed to be picked by this electoral vote system.

[00:11:55] Right.

[00:11:55] And that's a that's just that's a federalist model.

[00:12:00] It's a way to tamp down the the fleeting anger of the people.

[00:12:08] It's to it's to help to to, you know, give people a voice in the House, the people's House.

[00:12:13] Right. That's to give them the voice there.

[00:12:15] The states were to have their voice represented in the U.S. Senate.

[00:12:19] But thanks to Woodrow Wilson and the progressives, they obliterated that system and made that all popularly elected.

[00:12:24] Now, as well, which now means you just have, you know, U.S. senators that are elected statewide instead of appointed by their state legislatures.

[00:12:33] So we've gotten far away from, you know, the original intent.

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[00:13:41] He says a simple explanation on how and why the Electoral College works.

[00:13:45] Look, I tried to explain it.

[00:13:47] I think I thought I did a I tried to make it succinct.

[00:13:50] I knew I was running out of time.

[00:13:52] And the easiest way to understand it is that it is a federalism model.

[00:13:57] It's not a national election that we hold today.

[00:14:01] It's not a national election.

[00:14:04] This is the president is not elected by popular vote.

[00:14:08] And once you understand that, then it's like, OK, well, then what are what are the other mechanisms in place to pick a president?

[00:14:17] And that's where you then find out about the Electoral College and the apportionment.

[00:14:21] And basically just think of it as.

[00:14:24] Every state.

[00:14:26] Picking a presidential candidate on the same day, we are running 50 different elections today.

[00:14:35] Every state's running its own election today.

[00:14:38] It's why there isn't, you know, a federal government that comes in and runs our elections for us.

[00:14:44] These are state boards of election, state elections offices, because the states were the seminal power.

[00:14:52] They were the creators of the federal government.

[00:14:55] And the states never would have signed on to the U.S. Constitution.

[00:15:00] They never would have banded together with all of the other states because all of the states, right, they were colonies.

[00:15:06] They viewed themselves as nations.

[00:15:10] They basically viewed themselves, you know, states like a nation state.

[00:15:15] They viewed themselves as colonies that broke away, but they had organized their own governments and such.

[00:15:22] They viewed themselves as their own entities.

[00:15:23] They were not interested in signing on to a national government after they had just fought a revolution to throw off the yoke of a faraway governing system.

[00:15:37] And so a state like Georgia was not interested in giving power to New York, which was where a lot of the power was.

[00:15:48] New York, Massachusetts, right?

[00:15:51] Virginia.

[00:15:51] Virginia.

[00:15:51] So they didn't want to give away their power that they had just bled and died for.

[00:15:57] And so they come up with this idea.

[00:16:00] And there were a whole bunch of different ideas that were kicked around about how to elect a president and how many presidents there would be.

[00:16:07] Like they talked about having multiple presidents at the same time.

[00:16:11] Have a couple of them.

[00:16:13] Right.

[00:16:13] Right.

[00:16:14] So they toyed around with a bunch of different ideas.

[00:16:17] But it was a compromise.

[00:16:19] It was a way to get all of the original 13 states to sign on to this pact.

[00:16:28] And this was what they came up with.

[00:16:30] And you've got the House.

[00:16:32] You've got the Senate.

[00:16:33] And they each represented different interests.

[00:16:37] Right.

[00:16:37] The House represented the people.

[00:16:38] The Senate represented the states.

[00:16:41] And then the executive was just somebody that was put in there to administer what was supposed to be a very limited federal government.

[00:16:52] And thanks to the progressive movement of 100 plus years ago, all of that got blown up.

[00:16:58] Well, not all of it.

[00:16:59] We still do the direct election of our House members.

[00:17:02] But that's why the census is so important.

[00:17:05] And they take the total population of America.

[00:17:07] They divide it out.

[00:17:09] So every district is roughly the same population.

[00:17:12] Like pretty close to exactly the same population.

[00:17:15] I think it's like 850,000 is about the number.

[00:17:19] Every district has 850,000 roughly people in it.

[00:17:22] And then that's why, like, North Carolina keeps getting more people.

[00:17:26] And so we keep getting more House seats.

[00:17:28] And that means we keep getting more electoral college votes.

[00:17:32] California lost one.

[00:17:33] New York lost one in the last census.

[00:17:36] Let's head over and talk with Tom.

[00:17:38] Hello, Tom.

[00:17:39] Welcome to the program.

[00:17:40] Hey, Pete.

[00:17:41] How are you doing?

[00:17:42] Hey, my man.

[00:17:42] I'm good.

[00:17:43] What's going on?

[00:17:44] Okay.

[00:17:45] I'm over here in Gasson County.

[00:17:46] And I was listening to you talking about polls.

[00:17:49] And one poll that really interests me and probably the nation was Iowa.

[00:17:56] And Iowa has been pretty good at picking things and people.

[00:18:00] And in Iowa, Kamala Harris was up by at least 0.5 percent over Donald Trump.

[00:18:08] And I thought that was really interesting.

[00:18:10] And I remember when Obama ran, he was one at our poll, you know, for the Democrats.

[00:18:15] And I think Kamala's going to be okay.

[00:18:19] But my main reason for calling you is this.

[00:18:24] We worked the polls this morning in Gasson County, and we had a tent right beside the Republicans.

[00:18:31] And the good thing about it is, regardless of who wins, these Republicans and Democrats were at my poll precinct that I was working.

[00:18:41] They said, hey, let's just take a picture together.

[00:18:44] I didn't do it, of course.

[00:18:45] But they say everything was really good because I didn't want to, you know.

[00:18:50] Well, and that's the norm, Tom.

[00:18:52] Like, that's right.

[00:18:52] I mean, think about how many polling stations there are across America where people are set up outside.

[00:18:59] And the norm is that everybody gets along, even though they're, you know, fighting for victory over each other.

[00:19:08] There are very few problems at the polling places.

[00:19:12] You are so right.

[00:19:13] And that's what makes me feel confident and proud that we are Americans,

[00:19:20] that no matter who wins, whether it's Trump or Harris, either one of them,

[00:19:28] that we will do like we do at the precincts, just like you said, at the polling place across the nation,

[00:19:34] just come together as Americans.

[00:19:36] And that made me feel really good.

[00:19:38] I experienced it first this morning, and I'm really proud to say that on your station.

[00:19:44] Yeah, Tom, no, I appreciate that.

[00:19:45] Thanks for calling.

[00:19:46] And thanks for working at a polling place.

[00:19:48] I appreciate that, too.

[00:19:50] All right, take care.

[00:19:52] There was a photo that I saw today.

[00:19:57] I don't know who she is.

[00:19:59] She's running for some office, I guess Congress or something.

[00:20:02] And I think she's a Republican.

[00:20:04] And she posted a photo of her with her Democrat tracker.

[00:20:10] You know what the trackers are?

[00:20:13] These are the people that follow candidates around,

[00:20:16] trying to catch them saying something that will then get them defeated.

[00:20:21] Right?

[00:20:23] Trackers.

[00:20:23] They just walk around and film you at all of your campaign stops.

[00:20:28] All right?

[00:20:29] You go in a...

[00:20:29] You stop at a gas station to fill up the tour bus or whatever.

[00:20:32] Like, they're just tracking you the whole time.

[00:20:35] Videotaping you in order to try to catch you in a clip so then it can go viral and you can lose.

[00:20:42] And obviously the tracker did not get any evidence on this candidate.

[00:20:47] And she's like some 65-year-old grandma kind of a character looking, you know, candidate.

[00:20:54] And so she goes up and she's like, oh, I just took a picture.

[00:20:57] And she's got this picture with her tracker.

[00:21:00] So I guess this is it.

[00:21:01] You know, he's got...

[00:21:02] Because the election's over today.

[00:21:03] So I guess, you know, one of the guys who's been with us at every campaign stop that we've been on.

[00:21:11] So, yeah, it's a story.

[00:21:12] I like stories like that.

[00:21:15] And this is also why I'm not a catastrophist.

[00:21:19] I'm not one of these people that thinks, this is the last election ever.

[00:21:24] I don't believe that.

[00:21:25] I believe that the American people and the system that we have has survived for as long as it has because of the people we've got.

[00:21:33] And I think most people are not interested in completely, you know, flipping over the table.

[00:21:46] So, and maybe I'm naive on that.

[00:21:48] That's completely possible.

[00:21:53] Hang on.

[00:21:54] And I have a suggestion here from Moral Compass.

[00:21:58] It's a Pete tweet.

[00:22:00] Moral Compass says,

[00:22:02] Pete, chat GPT has you covered for an acronym for the seven swing states.

[00:22:10] Mag win pan.

[00:22:17] It actually works out.

[00:22:19] M is for Michigan.

[00:22:21] A is for Arizona.

[00:22:23] G is for Georgia.

[00:22:25] WI is for Wisconsin.

[00:22:27] N is for Nevada and North Carolina.

[00:22:30] Okay.

[00:22:30] Well, that's kind of cheating on that one.

[00:22:31] And then Pennsylvania.

[00:22:35] Oh, okay.

[00:22:36] Well, no.

[00:22:36] All right.

[00:22:36] So mag win pan.

[00:22:37] So N could be.

[00:22:38] So there are two N's.

[00:22:39] All right.

[00:22:40] So, okay.

[00:22:40] So that's fair then.

[00:22:41] All right.

[00:22:41] So PA is Pennsylvania.

[00:22:43] So mag win pan.

[00:22:44] I came up.

[00:22:45] No, I did not.

[00:22:46] I tried to use some AI generator tool and a couple of them and none of them really worked well.

[00:22:51] So I did not try chat GPT, but so I just did it the old school way with a pencil in my brain.

[00:22:57] And I came up with win car payment, which does not.

[00:23:05] Yeah, that's it doesn't flow very well.

[00:23:08] But WI is Wisconsin and NC, North Carolina.

[00:23:13] AR Arizona.

[00:23:15] PE Pennsylvania.

[00:23:16] MI Michigan.

[00:23:18] And then N for Nevada and G for Georgia.

[00:23:21] Win car payment.

[00:23:23] Win car payment.

[00:23:25] I was hoping to get DM in there.

[00:23:27] That would be like if you could make it do carpe diem, like that would be awesome.

[00:23:31] But there's no Delaware is not in the mix.

[00:23:33] So here we are.

[00:23:36] Bill, here you are.

[00:23:37] Welcome to the program.

[00:23:38] Hello, Bill.

[00:23:39] Hey, Pete.

[00:23:40] How are you?

[00:23:40] Hey, I'm good.

[00:23:41] What's up?

[00:23:42] Man, I just I've been listening to you for a while.

[00:23:44] Enjoy your show.

[00:23:45] I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you on this voter fraud thing.

[00:23:50] And I know what you said.

[00:23:51] And I kind of agree with what you said.

[00:23:53] If you don't see any evidence in the courts and there is no proof.

[00:23:57] But the last go around with Joe Biden, Pete, you've got to admit, Trump was virtually called

[00:24:04] the winner at about two in the morning.

[00:24:06] They stopped to count in six key areas.

[00:24:08] Those six key areas.

[00:24:10] Magically, he wins the next day by the thinnest of margins.

[00:24:14] And so now you're seeing cheating everywhere.

[00:24:17] You see it in Georgia this morning.

[00:24:19] Eight counties.

[00:24:20] They wouldn't allow poll watchers in there.

[00:24:22] Right now, my friends are in Maricopa County.

[00:24:24] They're already having mysterious power failures with the Dominion voting machines.

[00:24:29] It's everywhere.

[00:24:30] We're seeing it everywhere.

[00:24:32] And the only difference is now.

[00:24:33] Did you vote?

[00:24:33] Last time we had zero people watching.

[00:24:36] Did you vote?

[00:24:37] Nobody on the ground.

[00:24:38] Now we have people everywhere on the ground.

[00:24:41] We're good.

[00:24:41] I hope you guys are.

[00:24:42] I hope you are collecting all of the evidence and then you can get it in front of lawyers

[00:24:50] who will then be able to make these cases and prove it.

[00:24:55] I understand that.

[00:24:57] Right, because in order to prove cheating, Bill, in order to prove the cheating occurs, right,

[00:25:01] you've got to satisfy certain rules of evidence, right?

[00:25:07] Certain standards have to be met.

[00:25:09] Right, right.

[00:25:09] And that's what I require.

[00:25:10] Yeah, because video evidence of somebody rolling in a suitcase in Atlanta because a toilet is overflowing,

[00:25:19] that's not proof.

[00:25:20] Yeah, have you ever listened to Eric Erickson's takedown on all of this stuff?

[00:25:25] I don't have to.

[00:25:26] I live in the big calendar.

[00:25:27] No, you do have to.

[00:25:28] Well, Eric Erickson went through all of this stuff in 2020.

[00:25:31] Eric Erickson is a Republican host.

[00:25:34] He's also a party guy.

[00:25:37] And he went through all of the Georgia fraud accusations.

[00:25:42] I wasn't on the air here at WBT back in 2020, so you would not have heard me cover any of that stuff at the time.

[00:25:48] Eric Erickson, he knows, like, on the ground what he's talking about.

[00:25:53] I think he's actually also a lawyer, so he understands standards of evidence as well.

[00:25:58] And he blew up all of that, all of the stuff about the suitcase.

[00:26:03] Well, I mean, anybody with one eye and a half can.

[00:26:05] But none of this matters.

[00:26:06] But, Bill, see, here's the thing, Bill.

[00:26:08] There's no point in me arguing with you about this, for starters, about 2020, because it was four years ago.

[00:26:14] There's an election literally today, right?

[00:26:16] I understand that.

[00:26:17] Okay, so that's number one.

[00:26:18] Bill, Bill.

[00:26:19] You've got to understand, for four years we've been listening to the media.

[00:26:24] Everything that the media discusses, you never hear them say, going forward, this poll, that poll, you never hear them say,

[00:26:32] well, we're not taking into consideration the cheating that's going to happen.

[00:26:36] They are cheating everywhere they can cheat.

[00:26:38] And they've been getting caught and getting caught and getting caught.

[00:26:41] And when you go to bed at night and Trump is presumed the winner, practically announced to be the winner, when Vegas says, yeah, Vegas is calling it, Trump's going to win, boom.

[00:26:51] Six key areas.

[00:26:52] The vote is literally canceled.

[00:26:55] Yeah, I don't.

[00:26:55] And then all of a sudden in the morning, he wins.

[00:26:56] Bill, okay, Bill, now you're just filibustering.

[00:26:59] And I know that those arguments work with people that are predisposed to believe you, but they don't persuade me.

[00:27:05] And you act like I've not heard this argument for the last four years.

[00:27:10] You just restating it in a loud voice doesn't make me believe it.

[00:27:16] I'm sorry, I can't agree with you on all of your beliefs, but that's fine.

[00:27:20] We don't have to agree on everything.

[00:27:21] And if there's cheating all over the place, then and it's all on video, then I expect all of these issues from today to be litigated.

[00:27:31] And I expect the army of lawyers that are now in place to bring the lawsuits that will be required to prove the cheating.

[00:27:39] Because I have said over and over again for decades, of course, cheating occurs.

[00:27:46] Of course it does.

[00:27:47] Every single election has fraud, has cheating.

[00:27:50] Of course it does.

[00:27:53] To what extent?

[00:27:54] And what's the evidence for it?

[00:27:56] That has to be presented in a venue where the evidence can be tested, can be rebutted, can be proven or disproven.

[00:28:03] That's what I require.

[00:28:05] Your mileage may vary.

[00:28:06] Got a message here from Seth on the email.

[00:28:12] Eric Erickson is 100% a never-Trumper.

[00:28:15] His family and Nikki Haley's family are good friends.

[00:28:18] Why would he not say Trump lost?

[00:28:21] Eric Erickson endorsed Donald Trump in 2020 and offered to campaign for him.

[00:28:26] So, yeah, he was a never-Trumper and then he flipped.

[00:28:33] So I don't know what to make of that.

[00:28:36] But, yeah, he was a never-Trumper and then he endorsed him.

[00:28:43] Stan says, speaking of getting evidence in court to prove fraud in an election, how many Republican judges do we have in Mecklenburg County?

[00:28:50] I would probably guess zero.

[00:28:54] I would guess zero.

[00:28:55] But I'm not aware of any election challenges that have come through Mecklenburg County.

[00:29:01] And when a challenge does come forward, I would expect then to, you know, if it's in Mecklenburg, I would be looking at the incident.

[00:29:09] And then whenever there's a ruling, I would be looking at, okay, what is the evidence?

[00:29:16] What did the judge say?

[00:29:17] And then did the parties appeal?

[00:29:19] And then do the appeals court, controlled by Republicans, by the way, in North Carolina, what do they rule?

[00:29:24] And then if it gets appealed again, does it go to the state Supreme Court, also controlled by Republicans?

[00:29:32] Like, I don't know what else you want.

[00:29:34] Like, if you want to create a different venue for weighing evidence under standards, then I'm all ears.

[00:29:43] But right now, we have the judicial system.

[00:29:48] That's where this stuff is supposed to be handled.

[00:29:51] That's where evidence is supposed to be presented.

[00:29:53] That's where these decisions are supposed to be made.

[00:29:56] I can have opinions about stuff.

[00:29:58] Yes, in the court of public opinion, sure.

[00:30:00] I can have a difference of opinion than a lawyer with a wardrobe change that sits on a bench.

[00:30:05] Absolutely.

[00:30:07] That doesn't make me right.

[00:30:08] It doesn't make the judge right.

[00:30:10] Either way.

[00:30:11] But there has to be some venue for testing the claims.

[00:30:14] That's all.

[00:30:16] And if you can't win in that venue, then it's a harder sell for me.

[00:30:23] And I'm not going to go investigate every single detail of every single allegation.

[00:30:29] Because I've been doing this long enough to know, like, every single election,

[00:30:35] early voting, end election day, every single year, I get emails, messages, phone calls about people that are, you know,

[00:30:46] I saw this fraud occur.

[00:30:47] I got one the other day.

[00:30:50] And then when you ask them a couple of questions, like, you realize, oh, it's not actually fraud.

[00:30:57] Like, here's the reason, like, I got it.

[00:30:59] Well, this isn't really fraud related, but it was the John Locke Foundation does their vote tracker.

[00:31:04] And there are people that are listed as like, you know, 200 years old.

[00:31:07] Those are clerical mistakes that get made and then sent over into the database.

[00:31:12] But people see that and they're like, that's evidence of fraud.

[00:31:14] It's not evidence of fraud.

[00:31:16] And it is explained.

[00:31:19] But if you want to believe it, again, you are free to do so.

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