Eco-wackos are now coming for... DOGS?! (04-15-2025--Hour3)

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[00:00:28] Bad news for man's best friend. We're going to have to get rid of all of the dogs, apparently. They're villains! Environmental villains, apparently. They are bad for Gaia Earth. Dogs are bad for the planet. The headline from MotherJones.com, leftist reg. Bad news for man's best friend. Dogs are environmental villains. Sorry. There you go.

[00:00:59] Okay, now the story was originally published by The Guardian. Mother Jones was just republishing it. But regardless, this is the... There are studies. There's research now. Uh-huh. That dogs have extensive and multifarious... Never heard of that word before. Multifarious? Would that be like nefarious?

[00:01:31] In many ways? Wouldn't that still just be nefarious? But whatever. Extensive and multifarious... I'm going to try to work that into more sentences. I'm just going to be dropping multifarious here and there. Extensive and multifarious environmental impacts. Dogs do. They disturb wildlife. They pollute waterways. Okay? Oh, you know what? Oh, now it makes sense.

[00:02:05] The other day... The other day... I saw a cocker spaniel dumping a whole bunch of plastic straws in the stream. And I was like, what is... Why is that dog doing that? That's so weird. Now it makes sense. Polluting the waterways.

[00:02:20] And like harming the sea turtles, obviously. Also, they apparently contribute to carbon emissions. Dogs do. So, it's science. An Australian review. That is not a dog breed, by the way. That is a review out of Australia. Of existing studies. So, they didn't even do their own studies. They looked at all of these other studies. So, it's sort of a meta-analysis, if you will.

[00:02:48] A study of studies, a review of the studies, has argued that the environmental impact of owned dogs is far greater, more insidious, and more concerning than is generally recognized.

[00:03:33] Okay. All right. So, what about... What about if we were all to just, like, release the dogs from captivity? Right? You are no longer allowed to own a dog. And so, now, all of the dogs... Well, I mean, those that don't just, like, keep hanging around the house, you know... They're going to come back to the house because they love you and they want to sleep on the bed and all of that. But I'm... Like, if you just, like, kick them out of the house, you can't live here anymore. All the dogs are out. No more owned dogs.

[00:04:00] Owned dogs are now not good for the planet, so they are out. So, they're on the street. And do you think, then, that they may be disturbing more wildlife when they're out on the street? I think they do.

[00:04:18] So, just all things being equal, I'm thinking a dog out on the street is probably going to be eating way more squirrels than a dog that only gets to be out in the backyard for a couple hours a day. I just think they got a lot more, you know, opportunity. They have way more opportunity. They're going to, you know, have more interactions with squirrels at first. At first. Because then, eventually, yes, they kill all the squirrels. And then there are no more squirrels.

[00:04:46] Then they're going to have to move up to bigger game. And eventually, they will have depleted that source. Then they'll have to move up to another game. And then they will finally come for us. Which I kind of feel like is what these environmentalists are always angling for. Because that is really the only way to preserve the planet in its pristine state, which is completely untamed, unmanaged, and wild. Right? That's what Mother Nature is. That's what the environment is.

[00:05:13] The only way to preserve that is to eliminate all of the billions of people on the planet. That's it. Which I think is their, I think that's the end goal here for a lot of these people. So, apparently, the environmental impact of cats is very well known. Because by cats, man, cats, you want to talk about murder and some stuff? Cats are murderous. And for no reason either.

[00:05:43] They're like the only animal that hunts just for kicks. Like, no, they're not hunting for shoes. No, I'm saying they go out and they just take pleasure in the hunt. They just do it because it's fun to do. And that's apparently also, by the way, why they get on you at like, you know, 5 a.m., 5.30 a.m. That's why they jump on the bed and start like messing with you before you got to wake up. Because that's prime hunting time. And they're like, dude, let's go hunting.

[00:06:13] You're going to miss out on the hunt. That's why they do that. So, we apparently have done lots of research on the cats. And so, now the cats are fighting back. They probably funded this research against the dogs. The review was published, believe it or not, in a publication called Pacific Conservation Biology.

[00:06:35] And it highlighted the impacts of the world's commonest large carnivore in killing and disturbing native wildlife, particularly shorebirds. Shorebirds. As opposed to the unsure birds. They're not very confident in much.

[00:06:55] In Australia, attacks by unrestrained dogs on little penguins in Tasmania may contribute to colony collapse, according to computer modeling. And that's never steered us wrong before. A study of animals taken to the Australian Zoo Wildlife Hospital found that mortality was highest after dog attacks, which was the second most common reason for admission to the hospital.

[00:07:24] You know what the number one reason? Why these cute little Tasmanian penguins and others, I guess. Number one reason they end up in the hospital? They get hit by cars. Look, if you're a wild animal and your number one predator is a Chevy and your number two is a dog that broke its leash or something,

[00:07:53] I think you're doing okay out in the wild. Seriously. Seriously. Like, the wild is a pretty tough place. And if those are your biggest predators that you have to worry about, I'm thinking, you know, do like the crows do. They've learned, and pigeons too. They have learned how not to get hit by cars all the time, and they live in the city. So maybe, I don't know, like, eventually they, these penguins will learn.

[00:08:20] And if they can't learn, I don't know, put up a fence along the road. Trying to save these guys. But then, of course, then the car strikes as the leading cause of death. That'll go down. And then the dogs will go up because the dogs can probably jump the fences or something. And then they will, you know, they'll be labeled as, like, the number one reason why the animals get attacked or come into the hospital. And then, like, then the pressure campaign will really ramp up against the dogs.

[00:08:49] And this is, you know what this is like? It's like a monkey with a calculator. That's what this reminds me of. It's like, we have all this data, and we could do all of this stuff with the data, but they don't know what they're looking at. They don't understand. They're, like, drawing conclusions. Well, we looked at the number of wildlife that have been taken into a particular hospital. And while most of them were hit by cars, the number two reason was dogs.

[00:09:18] So, therefore, dogs are terrible for the environment. Dude, dogs are the equivalent of the penguin that it attacked. They're both animals. They're on the same level. If the person wasn't putting a roof over that dog's head, that dog would be out on that shoreline way more, killing way more penguins. What are you guys even doing down there, down under, in Australia? What are you even, why are you doing this?

[00:09:46] Do you want people to hate you? I think so. All right, if you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events. And I know you do, too. And you've probably heard me say, get your news from multiple sources. Why? Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed with Ground News. It's an app, and it's a website, and it combines news from around the world in one place, so you can compare coverage and verify information.

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[00:10:49] This podcast, and then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. Susan says, as a dog owner of many dogs for many years, the government or some kind of crazy organization can get my dog when they pry her leash out of my, well, you know, the rest. Yeah, well, that's the thing too about dogs, is if they do show up to take your dogs and you resist them, the dogs sense that, right?

[00:11:16] They're going to key off of your emotion and they're going to aid in your fight. But downside, we already have a registry of the dogs. So they're going to know exactly who is the dog owner, you know, in like cities like Charlotte where you have to register your dogs. And so now they're going to have a list to come confiscate your dog. The review of these other studies was done,

[00:11:47] published rather in Pacific Conservation Biology. And so they looked at a lot of the stuff in these studies that were done in Australia. And I did see somebody ask a question here. Jonathan said, wait a minute, this is Australia. Is it owned dogs or dingoes causing the problem? That is a very good question, Jonathan. I don't even know the difference between a dingo and a dog.

[00:12:15] I think dingoes are basically dogs that haven't been domesticated, right? They look very similar, I think. And so is it, are the dogs, are the dogs being blamed for the sins of the dingoes? That's not cool. Like the cats blaming the dogs for all of the stuff, you know, that goes wrong in the house. Like that's not cool either.

[00:12:38] Jonathan also points out that I have ignored the dog's disgusting habit of gambling illegally. There are infamous, there's an infamous painting of them in the act. That's true. That's true. I forgot about that. We have, we have, you know, visual evidence. And they're smoking. That's an environmental no-no too.

[00:13:07] In the United States, studies have found that deer, foxes, and bobcats were less active in or avoid wilderness areas where dogs were allowed. Okay, so I'm failing to see the problem here. So if I've got a dog, I'm less likely to have deer, foxes, and bobcats? Okay, I'm not sure that's true.

[00:13:36] Okay, because in my neighborhood, there are people posting all the time on the Facebook group about their dogs have gone missing. And people spotting foxes and coyotes and stuff in the area. And it seems like they're being, it seems like the dogs are getting targeted, you know? So I'm not so sure about that, but also I don't think I want a bobcat around my property. Oh yeah, yeah, I know, coexist and all of that.

[00:14:06] But they don't recognize property lines, you know? And my HOA doesn't allow me to put up a fence except one of those ones with the slots in it, or the slats rather, and so they can just walk right through them. That's not much protection at all. I don't want bobcats at my back door. That's me. I don't want a rabid fox, you know, under my car. No. Guys, priorities here. Other research shows that in, oh get this one, this was amazing to me.

[00:14:37] I had no idea. You probably have not either. Research shows that insecticides, I know you're thinking like, how does this tie in with dogs? Insecticides from flea and tick medications kill aquatic invertebrates when they wash off into waterways. Well, how are you even tracking that first off?

[00:15:05] How are you tracking a, like what, a flea collar? That's what we're talking about here. The drops go on their necks and then it absorbs into the body. So what, are they peeing it out and they're peeing it into the waterway or something? How many dogs peeing into waterways are we talking about here? Most dogs I see and have had, they pee on grass. They don't go into the water to pee. They pee on the grass. So then it filters through the grass. In which case then I got questions for the grass.

[00:15:34] What are you, what are you even doing over there, grass? You're just laying there. Your main job, besides looking good, is, well, and also to, you know, foment the growth of weeds. Your job is to filter the rainwater that hits you before it gets to the waterways. That's why we pay all of the taxes here. If you try to pave over the grass, then you got to pay more taxes because grass is better. But if grass isn't even doing its job enough to filter out urine from all of the dogs,

[00:16:03] I don't even understand how you would track that, let alone, I don't believe the results. I do not believe these results. Somebody actually said, hey, let's find out how much flea and tick collar meds are getting into the waterways. And then they devised a method to determine that? I don't buy it. I'm just not buying it. I think they probably got the same kind of medications and they just dumped a bunch of it into some waterway and it killed a bunch of stuff. And they're like, oh yeah, look at that.

[00:16:32] It can kill them. Well, yes, it probably could kill them. It's like the, what was it, the famous study where they gave the rats all of the sweet and low or something. Like, look at that, killed the rats, you know. Well, yeah, you gave them like 17 billion times the lifetime dosage in a single hit. I'm pretty sure anything in that amount is going to kill somebody. And what's more, dog poop.

[00:16:58] It can leave scent traces and affect soil chemistry and plant growth. I guess in a bad way because I always thought the poop would help with the growth of the, like the lawns and stuff. Pee, no, no. Pee will kill the lawns. But poop, I understood poop is a good thing.

[00:17:22] Didn't the indigenous peoples put the poo in the crops and make them grow and then taught the stupid pilgrims how to farm with the poop technique? Didn't they do that? This is so confusing. And don't even get me started now on the pet food. Oh my gosh. That really increases the carbon paw print here. Here's a great idea.

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[00:18:59] I kind of feel like the left has jumped the shark because they keep trying to take the most unpopular positions on stuff recently. Have you noticed this? Like, we're going to take your kids. Dogs are bad. Like, what are you guys doing? The lefties can never go too far. And this is the result of it.

[00:19:27] A story published at The Guardian, reproduced at MotherJones.com as part of the Climate Desk collaboration. I mean, just think about this. Somebody, not only did somebody have to do the research and then submit this paper to the Pacific Conservation Biology magazine or whatever, somebody then had to review it and say, yeah, let's publish that.

[00:19:55] They publish it. And then you've got The Guardian reporter and editors who see this study and say, yeah, let's do a story on that. And then Mother Jones follows suit. And that's how, and then I'm downstream of them. Except they're reporting it as if like, oh, you know, it's just very bad for the earth.

[00:20:20] All of these domesticated dogs just pooping and peeing everywhere and chasing birds down. And then you realize they eat. It's true. Dogs eat. The carbon footprint of pets is significant. A 2020 study found, again, here's another one. Someone did a study on this.

[00:20:48] Found that the dry pet food industry had an environmental footprint of around twice the land area of the UK. Which makes sense because I think that they've basically de-industrialized by this point. So there really isn't a whole lot of emissions going on over there, I think. It's also not very big anymore. I mean, it used to be very big. Right? Had a whole empire going. But not anymore.

[00:21:14] But the entire dry pet food industry has an environmental footprint of twice the land area of the UK. So what we're converting emissions into land mass? That does not seem to me to be a one-for-one, I don't know, a conversion.

[00:21:39] You know, like that's, or you're saying that all of the UK's footprint doubled is the size of all of the footprint of however many pet food producers there are, I guess, in the world? Okay? Now do a factory farm. Now do some factory farm. Oh my gosh, I just realized dogs do eat, they eat meat too. Oh! Dang it.

[00:22:08] That's probably what drives their score up. Or down, depending on what's the negative there. Jay says, Pete, I have not registered my dogs the 30 years I have lived in Charlotte. Oh! Sorry, I should not have said that on the air. One of my dogs was killed by a buck during the rut on Thanksgiving 2012. I'm sorry to hear that. So here's one of the things, though, and I don't want to get too graphic about it, but I'll tell you the story.

[00:22:35] A couple of months back, well, I guess about a year ago, we had somebody in the neighborhood. And they had a deer die on their fence because the deer tried to jump over the fence. And the fence had those little spiky things on the top, you know, to prevent or kill teenagers from jumping over the fence. But a deer jumped over and landed on it, impaled itself, and died.

[00:23:06] Side story there is very few organizations and agencies will come out and remove that carcass. Yeah, it was a whole thing on the Facebook group, too. Also, no more spikes on the fences. So that HOA rules went into effect there. Just the flat top fences. So if the deer does misjudge and they land on it, they won't die. One more reason, then, to put a dog in the yard and the deer won't try to jump through your fence. Right?

[00:23:35] Seems like that would be, like, are we giving enough credit? Like, you've got to look at both sides of the ledger here. Right? If a dog's mere presence in your yard is going to keep the deer away and you're like, oh, my gosh, that's a negative environmental impact. Yeah, but maybe the dog's presence kept the deer away from, you know, the murderous fence. And so that's a net positive for the deer. Right?

[00:24:01] Now, there are some other benefits that the researchers do point to, like, you know, the effect on the owner's mental and physical health. Right? People will probably go out and, like, they love their dogs, emotional support dogs, and all dogs. Like, they love their dogs. They enjoy having them around. They bring them joy and laughter and stuff.

[00:24:27] Not to mention, I mean, there's a whole, like, TikTok genre of dog videos and stuff. I mean, you'd just be putting all those people out of work. People will probably go out and really enjoy the environment around them, too. Right? So you go walking with your dog. If you don't have a dog, you're probably not walking as much as you're walking with the dog. Right? You know. No, no, no. You're like, oh, I totally would walk by a dog. No. You have a fenced-in yard. You're opening the door. You're letting the dog go outside, and you're closing the door, and you're going back to the game.

[00:24:57] Like, that's what's happening there. But if you don't have a fence, you've got to walk that dog. And if you don't have a dog at all, right, you're not going for those walks. And they say, like, look, if you're going out into nature and you're walking around with a dog, maybe you become more protective of the environment. See, so there are some benefits. Also, companionship of the dog. In some people's cases, it's literally the only reason they have to get out of bed in the morning.

[00:25:26] They got something that's depending on them, and they love it. And so that's, otherwise, they would just be like, too depressed, PTSD, whatever. They're like, I'm not doing it. In this review, the researchers attributed the extent of the environmental impacts to the sheer number of dogs globally, as well as the, quote, lax or uninformed behavior of dog owners. Okay, I'm on board with this now. That is true. Okay, this part is true.

[00:25:55] This is what the dog whisperer, if you've never seen an episode, I'm going to tell you every single episode, it ends the same way. Okay? It's the owner's fault every single time. If your dog is misbehaving, it's your fault. Okay? The dog owners are the problem. The dogs are just pack animals. They're going to do whatever you tell them to do and want them to do because you're the pack leader. But if you don't assume the role as pack leader, they're going to try to be pack leader. And they don't know how to lead a pack of humans. We don't know how to lead packs of humans.

[00:26:25] Why do you think the dog is going to know that? So that's always the end result, that the dog owner stinks. Okay? So if you want to attribute all of this to the uninformed behavior of dog owners, I am with you there. Because the biggest problem I have with dogs is their owners. Really. It really is. A simple way to mitigate against the worst impacts was to keep dogs leashed in areas where restrictions apply and to maintain a buffer distance from nesting or roosting shorebirds.

[00:26:54] And they say maybe some dog exclusion zones may be more suitable for some areas. Sustainable dog food production maybe. If nothing else, they say pick up your own dog poop. Yes. Please. For the love of me. Pick up your dog poop.

[00:27:17] I am tired of seeing the nasty comments and the pictures of people's dog poop on the sidewalks in my HOA Facebook group. I don't understand why people take these pictures. I do not. But they do. And they pose. Look at what I saw. Pick up after your dog. Like just stop it. I don't want to see dog poop on my Facebook feed. Ugh. Owners, man. All right. So spring is here. A time of renewal and celebrations.

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[00:28:39] Get all the details at createavideo.com. A couple of messages. This is from Jan who says, You don't want to see dog poop on your Facebook feed, but you avidly follow politics. There is a disconnect here I don't quite get. That's more of a visual thing, I think. Um, and, uh, I got some, uh, tweets here. These are Pete tweets.

[00:29:09] At Pete Callender. Melissa says, Get up and open the door to let the dog out? Please. The dog opens the door anytime he likes with an electronic collar and a high-tech automatic pet door. Get up. You're funny. And then she's got a picture here of, That's pretty cool. See that, the problem we had, we had, uh, uh, Christy and I bought our house years ago, and it had a dog door in the back door. But we didn't have any dogs. We did have cats.

[00:29:37] And they loved it after they figured it out, which occurred after they, like, weren't terrified of it anymore. But once they got through it, and they realized how to get through it, they loved it. And they went in and out all the time. And they would bring us all sorts of presents, lots of shrews, voles, a bird. Well, to be fair, we never got the bird. We just saw the blood and feathers all around the dining room one time, and that was it. I don't know what happened. We never found the bird.

[00:30:07] I don't know. By the way, shrews? Nasty. Oh, gosh. Those things are nasty. One time, one of the cats brought in a vole. Yeah, a big, no, sorry, a mole. An actual mole. Those things are hideous. Oh, my gosh. Especially in the middle of the night when you're bleary-eyed and you're like, what's that running across the top of my head? That's, that is a terrifying experience.

[00:30:35] But they did save Christy once from a cockroach, which they also brought in, but then released, because that's kind of their jam. I don't know if you're aware of this, about cats, but they, they like to bring it in and then drop it and it's not dead. Oh, and they murdered tons of lizards. But anyway, we had a cat door and they loved going in and out. I have not seen the automatic one. We had the flap, just the plastic flap on it, you know? And

[00:31:04] little known fact about those doors. Other animals can use them to enter as well. So it's not one way. So, and, and one day we ended up with a, with another cat under the bed and it looked like our cat. We thought it was our cat. Turned out not to be our cat. It was some neighbor's cat and it had come into our house. I don't know why and why it made its way up to the bedroom and

[00:31:33] took a nap under our bed, but that's what it did. It's all a distraction tweets. Was this dog article written by the Australian version of Taylor Lorenz? That's a good question. It sounds kind of like it. And Russ, he says, hear me out. What if instead we get rid of the Guardian and Mother Jones folks and anybody else who supports this idea we'd get the reduction in environmental impact plus the world is a happier place because we still have all the dogs,

[00:32:03] but we don't have these miserable scolds. It's a win-win. I like it, Russ. Yeah, if your species is facing extinction because you can't avoid cars, you're kind of self-selecting and you don't deserve to continue. Well, that's why possums are possums, their lifespan is only like two years in the wild. So I do have some bad news though for these Australian researchers.

[00:32:31] The bad news is there is a biotech startup in San Francisco. It's called Loyal and the company announced that the FDA has certified a daily pill that it has developed. It's called L-O-Y dash O-O-2. So very marketable. Loyal L-O-Y O-O-2. The pill, the FDA says

[00:33:01] the pill has a reasonable expectation of effectiveness in extending the lifespan of senior dogs. The FDA Center for Veterinary Medicine must still confirm the drug safety and the company's ability to manufacture it at scale before veterinarians can prescribe it to eligible dogs. Australian researchers hardest hit. If dogs live longer they're going to have more environmental impact

[00:33:31] and these people are going to go nuts. So this the eligible dogs are 10 years or older and weighing at least 14 pounds. It's more feasible to do longevity testing in animals that have a shorter lifespan than humans of course. This is Henry Miller writing a DC Journal. The problem is the process can still be lengthy and expensive. Trials of drugs or other interventions to promote longevity are notoriously difficult

[00:34:00] as the classic cartoon illustrated. You know, you got two scientists standing in front of a lab bench and one of them says that the liquid in the flask that he is holding he's holding it up and he's like, yeah, it may very well bring about immortality but it's going to take forever to test it. Yeah, that's the okay. So the company is conducting trials with some dogs receiving the actual treatment and others receiving placebo pills. Both beef flavored. A 2023

[00:34:30] Pew Research Center found 49% of American households own at least one dog and they all go out to the same pub and brewery as you do when you do. 97% of pet owners consider their drug I think depends on the human members in your family. No?

[00:35:01] The company Loyal hopes to price their treatment under $100 per month. Loyal previously received a reasonable expectation of effectiveness certification for another longevity drug and that one targets the large breeds like Great Danes. But that treatment requires injections and that's expected to take longer to reach the market.

[00:35:31] Loyal is not alone in pursuing veterinarian longevity solutions. There are other biotech firms that are working on pet weight loss drugs similar to the human drug Ozempic. Okay, I'm drawing the line on this one. Okay, because your dog only eats what you give it. Once again, that's a you problem. If you

[00:36:00] got an obese dog or cat, that's your fault. That's not the dog or cat's fault. That's your fault. You shouldn't be injecting your dog with Ozempic because you can't stop feeding your own dog. That's stupid. But then again, we live in very stupid times. So, I expected that'll probably be on the market ASAP. That one will cost a ton of money. Then you have

[00:36:30] another competitor. You're going to have more competition for these drugs. People who actually need the drugs for diabetes purposes and such, they're now going to that's not cool. Come on, people. We're better than this. All right, that'll

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