Despite Democrat opposition, NC moves to cooperate with ICE (06-05-2025--Hour2)

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Right the Senate version passed a while ago, the House has made some changes, so the bill now has to go back to the Senate for a concurrence vote, and then it would go to the Governor's desk for the likely veto. Will they have enough votes to override the veto? Does not appear that they would. In the House unless some Democrats were to break rank or something. Senate Bill one fifty three, according to the Charlotte Observer, comes a year after Republican lawmakers successfully enacted a law that forces county sheriffs to cooperate with ICE. I call it Gary's Law. It is not the only immigration bill this session. Lawmakers are also moving a bill that would require further cooperation with ICE from sheriffs, expanding on the requirements that were already passed last year. Maria Servanna, she is a Democrat from Wake County, and she opposed a portion or a measure in the bill that requires a review or an audit of public benefits to ensure that there are no illegal aliens receiving those benefits who are not eligible to do so. This is Undodocumented people are already ineligible for most public benefits that are under federal and state laws. Okay, so then what's the problem with auditing the roles to find out that that's actually occurring? Right? What's the problem. See, here's here's the problem. When you guys as the resistance, when you find all sorts of ways to obstruct and to help people skirt the law, we kind of don't trust you anymore. We don't believe you when you say, oh, it's already against the law. Yeah, but we don't know if you guys and the bureaucrats are actually following the law. We just saw two judges help illegal aliens avoid deportation, So don't tell me that, oh, it's already against the law. So that's enough. It's not enough. It requires a check to see if anybody, maybe erroneously but maybe intentionally, have been put onto the roles, and if everybody is following the law, we'll get a clean bill from the auditor and everything will be fined. Right. You can say see that we told you that there wasn't any of this going on, and we would say, good thing, we checked. It's good to have the confirmation. But they're arguing that we shouldn't even check, which makes me a little bit suspicious or sus as the kids would say. So that includes they are not eligible for Medicaid, childcare subsidies, mental health crisis services, rental assistance. These doors are already close. So I'm not sure and very can why we included in this bill. So what this bill proposes is not a clarification, it's an escalation and it's inadvertently making our state agencies creating to create fear, confusion and delay of delivering care to people who are eligible to receive their care because the extra burdens that we put on in this bill. This is catastrophisation. Oh my gosh, we can't even look as if we look, then other people are going to die and they're going to be afraid. Oh my gosh, the trauma. If that's the standard, then you can never check for compliance. It's so absurd. See when you take a step back and you hear somebody's argument and they're talking about a specific thing, I always try to take a step back and examine what is the standard or principle that is informing this position, because if you look at the if you look at the principle or the standard, a lot of times it doesn't make any sense. And if you were to apply it to other areas, as you should with a standard or principle, then the dumb assery of the position crumbles. Marcia Morey, Democrat from Durham County another awful. She is a former judge who apparently has a misguided idea of how government works and the system of that government. My issue with this, as my colleagues have very eloquently stated, is a part one. Whereas we the General Assembly, the legislative branch, we are ordering the executive branch what to do. We the legislative branch, are ordering the executive branch of the Department of Adult Correction, the Department of Public Safety, the State Highway Patrol. To do numerous things. And the state SBI. Is Congress passing laws to direct the president an executive. To do things. Yes, is Congress telling President Trump your FBI must. Do these things? Yes? Your Department of Defense, your Bureau of Prisons. Yes, No, it's got separation of powers. No, that's not separation of powers. Congress passes the law and then the executive implements it. That's why Congress and you guys in the legislature, you write bills that say, shall blah blah blah, this agency shall do this, you shall do that. The legislature mandates things through law. The executive branch then implements it carries them out. How do they do that? At the direction of the legislature. They have to follow what the legislature is intending and what they have written down in the law. This woman was a judge for like eighteen years, and she doesn't understand this. I'm assuming she doesn't understand it. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt, right when it's either ignorance or malevolence, I'm not going with the malevolence. Like she knows this isn't true, but she's lying in order to make this argument to her, you know, her base and her donors or something. But that, like, it is shocking to hear somebody in the legislature not understand what the role of the legislature is in relation to the executive branch. Yes, the legislature tells the executive of what to do. Yes. Then there's Abe Jones. Abe Jones is a Democrat from Wake County, also a former judge. He said the federal government needs to do their jobs and that we shouldn't be helping because that's the federal government doing this stuff. They need to do their job, and that Trump killed the bipartisan immigration bill last year. This lie again, he called it. He called this bill stupid and preposterous to mandate highway patrol cooperate with ice, that's stupid and preposterous, he said. He called it horrifically bad and a piece of junk, and mean, these. Are people, they got children for God's sake, their ways. I'm not fully legal immigration frankly speaking, I thought we ought to have If we're going to have a boorder, have it protected. If you have the round, people have to send them home. May have to do it, but there's a. Way to do it, and the federal government should be about his. Business and do it. It is. But when we stick our nose into something we don't have to, we have to do it in a humane and humanitarian way. And this is an. End so on this issue of you know, these are people that have kids. You know who else has kids? Murderers? Not all murders hashtag not all murderers, but. A lot of people who murder other people, or you commit violent acts against other people and get sent away to prison. They have kids. Do we not punish them because we don't want to break up their family? Right? These are the consequences of choices that individuals make. The federal government is doing immigration enforcement. And I know that maybe you don't understand what this looks like because you haven't seen it in so long, but this is what it looks like. That's what they're doing. The State is not sticking its nose into it. The state is offering to assist the FEDS. That's all. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville is your connection. 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Call her text eight two eight three six seven seventy sixty eight or check out all there is to offer at Cabinsofashville dot com and make memories that'll last a lifetime. Let's talk to Mary. Hello, Mary, welcome to the program. How are you hi, Date. I love your show, Thank you, I appreciate it. So, my friend's daughter who had gotten her master's in Spanish et cetera perfectly respectable young woman, and she was working as an all pair in Spain and would they went to Disney euro Disney. When they came back into the country, they checked her papers and said, you don't have the correct kind of visa. You know, you can't be working, and you have like twenty four to forty eight hours to get out of the country, as in, you will leave here, you will go straight back to where you were, pack your bags and we will be monitoring you get out of the country. And why she wasn't allowed to stay there her visa? Was she there on a tourist spiel. I think she had a work visa, so if she was working as an all pair, she was not allowed to earn any money. She had no idea and yeah, and that. Was it out Yeah when out Yeah, when you look at the immigration rules that every other country uses, we are the outlier in America. It is absolutely Yeah. The abuses that we allowed to occur are there's no other explanation except it's intentional. Right, right, And I'm from the West Coast, although I try to keep that on the downlow, but I've been here a long time, but I knew illegals out there, and you know, wonderful, wonderful people. But it kind of goes back to that thing of like we have a border or we don't. And here's the thing. The wonderful illegals now are are flying under the radar just like they always have. You know, they're going after these troublemakers. Well, and that's the first that's the first wave. So like the idea is that eventually they're going to start going after others, and I think at that point it becomes way less politically appealing, right when they start rounding up people that are you know, law abiding except for the obviously the illegal alien part. Then I think you're going to get a lot more pushback. But the fact that they are already pushing back when they're going after the worst of the worst, is indicative of their general, you know, posture, which is, anybody who gets in should be allowed to stay, no matter their criminal history or their behavior once they arrive. And it's not a winning issue for them. I don't know why they've taken it except for their incentive to do so. That's it. Yeah, it's true. And I mean I have a super good One of my dear friends is here from Kenya. It took her twenty two years to get to get her citizenship, to get a great I can't remember how many years. Probably took twenty years to even get her green card. She was doing everything right. They came here on student visas. They kept having to pay these out of stators fees and all this, and finally I asked her, you know, like, what is the deal, Like, we have all these illegals that are coming here from south of the border. This was you know, a million years ago, And I said, they're getting their citizenship. What is the deal? And she said, it's much easier if you come here illegally than if you come and try to do it the right way. Well, yeah, they're not getting citizenship, they're getting authorizations, and then because the system is so overloaded and backlogged again by design, that they're never removed. And so that's why I like the guy that was just you know, that was just arrested for attempting to torch a bunch of Jewish people to death. You know, he had overstayed his visa, and this is a very common thing. Come in and then they don't leave, and then there's no way to go about rounding them up and getting them out because we've we've brought in so many people the system can't handle it all. So right, right, and what a horrifying situation that was, Yeah, absolutely it is. Yeah, Yeah, Mary, I appreciate the call. Good to talk with you, you. Too, all right, take care. Next audio clip here is Julia Greenfield, Democrat from right here in Mecklenburg County. She called this legislation a harmful, despicable bill that sends a hurtful message to our immigrant friends that that's not her, that's Abe Jones, this is Julia Greenfield. It's upsetting. We are sending a message that these hard working people who have left untenable circumstances in their own home country, not all of them. That they are not welcome here. They can't have an opportunity to work and to raise their children safely, to educate their children. And as we have seen, as certain states have deported immigrants, what's happened. The crops are not being paid. Oh my gosh. The hotels do not have anyone providing the service. So it's best that we just keep employing people for low wages. Right to keep an indentured servant class. That's the idea here. You know how racisty this sounds. Also note the conflation of legal with illegal, and the conflation of criminal versus non criminal. And I was adam beating and someone asked who wants manufacturing brought back to the United States. Everybody raised their hand, and then we asked who wants to work in manufacturing? Not one hand went up. Well, it's a democratic town hall. We are shooting ourselves in the foot for no reason. Immigrants are not the boogeyman. Nobody say they help us build this country. Okay, nobody said they're a boogeyman. They're just in violation of the law. And so what you're advocating is that we have laws that should just be ignored because somebody needs to pick my crops. I don't think that. I don't think that sounds the way you think it sounds. 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I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground news as they make the media landscape more transparent. John Blust is a Republican from Guildford County and he spoke in favor of passage of the cenatepill that was debated yesterday in the North Carolina how Centipil won fifty three and he started off with a quick recap. He says of how we got here, which is important, I hear. Due process, rule of law. We got here because the last administration did not enforce the law, refuse to enforce laws on the books, and twelve million people came right across the border and were often aided by our government in being bussed to different places around the country. Some flown in the dead of night so that they could be resettled. It was a purposeful, purposeful policy, and I've wondered why. I keep thinking, why. Are they choosing this hill to die on? Why did they refuse to enforce the law. And then I read a few weeks ago that because they count illegal aliens in the census, the Republican majority would be twenty seven seats in the Congress instead of three. It's a majority. So these are people not here under law, but being counted and getting represented in the Congress. And I would say, right here in this chamber. Yeah, makes sense. Otherwise, why would you why would you do this? Why would you open the border up to twelve million illegal aliens in four years? Why would you do that? Why would you rip away all of the controls, be opposed to a border wall and opposed to these these audits of the roles to clear them out and get people off of them that are ineligible, thereby saving money for those who are eligible. Right, Why else. Would you do all of these things? Let me go over and talk to Richard real quick. Hey, Richard, welcome to the show. Hey, how are you doing. I'm all right? What's up? Me and my wife? Sorry, me and my wife have been together eighteen years, been married sixteen and we paid a lot our money for her legal She hates the fact that people come over illegally from Mexico. So how come we can't give our money back? That's a fair question. Yeah, yeah, no, it's a fair question. And the people who are most insulted and defended by the illegal immigration problem are the legal ones, like Richard just outlined. I appreciate the call, Richard, Yeah, it's an insult. You spend thousands, if not tens of thousands of dollars to do it the right way to become a citizen, to go through the courses, the background checks, right, all of that stuff, and then you see other people just jumping the line and enjoying the benefits of being here without any of the costs. Bluss then addressed the lie that a new that bipartisan bill in Congress, that that's what was needed in order to fix the broken immigration system. We have seen in a couple of months the border closed under current law. By just following current law, that is a humanitarian thing to do. No longer are there trains of people coming through dangerous areas across Guatemalo, Mexico, subject to the cartels and their wrath. They are now staying home and not being abused like they were for four years while the border was wide open. That's humanitarian. Yeah, this is why I see no moral ground to the left on this issue. This idea that it's moral to encourage people to make that trek and suffer the abuses, be murdered, raped, sold into human trafficking. That is not the humanitarian position to take. You should not be encouraging people to do that. I have documented over years the various abuses that occur because of our system. And so no, you do not occupy the moral high ground in this argument because well, they got here, you should let them stay. No, they everybody should not be encouraged to come in the first place. And the way you do that is to not incentivize that after four years of no due process, no adhering to the rule of law, now all of a sudden Democrats are crying for it. There is a vast difference, Blust said, between legal and illegal immigration. There is a specific due process for those who come across. The border in violation of immigration laws. These are Article two proceedings within the Justice Department. They're not a full fledged court proceeding like in a criminal. Trial, right, which is what Democrats are arguing for. This is a conflation because they obviously well they're either ignorant of the process or they are counting on you being ignorant of the process. That they are different This is not the same as somebody violating a state statute being arrested by local police being put on trial, right because that's the state versus pete calender. It's not an administrative civil proceeding. The due process rules are laid out already, they are codified, and that's what ICE is enforcing. So this idea that there isn't due process, it's a red herring. It's a red herring. And again it's predicated on either you being ignorant or the person making the argument being ignorant. All right, so spring is here a time of renewal and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries and the special days for mom and dad. Your family's making memories that are going to last a lifetime. But let me ask you, are all of those treasured moments from days gone by? Are they hidden away on old VCR tapes, eight millimeter films, photos slides? Are they preserved? Because over time, these precious memories can fade and deteriorate, losing the magic of yesterday. At Creative Video, they help you protect what matters most. Their expert team digitizes your cherished family moments and transfers them onto a USB drive, freezing them in time so they can be enjoyed for generations to come. 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But it's been spoken about, and I've heard about that this for at least a couple of years as to why they were doing it so and it was always delivered. People are like, wow, is Joe bilden Biden failing at the or he's not failing. He's doing exactly what their intent is. And then the other thing is we throw around this word on occasion and it's a it's a powerful word. But isn't this action? Couldn't it be regarded as reason? Which action? I mean, it's an absolute under trying to undermine the principle of this country was founded upon. Which action are you saying will be the. Democrats are doing by flooding this country with illegals. I have heard people make that case that action. I mean, what do you think? Yeah, that's thing. You would have to nail down actual motive, right you, Like you would have to get proof that this was the plan. And I don't know if you would ever be able to do that because they could just say, oh, no, we were just giving asylum to all the people that were fleeing, you know, war torn countries, even though like it's like nine out of ten of them are not actually in any threat, any danger. That's why they were the asylum claims are always rejected. So okay, but yeah, can we speak off the record, then. Well you're on the radio, so. No, it's clear what their motivation was. Right, I mean, I'm assuming that, but I don't know for sure, but I am assuming it based on the report from the Center for Immigration Studies. But also remember for the last twenty five years they've been operating under this This strategy of demographics is destiny, right, the belief that if you can turn America into a more say, well let's say, diverse country. You know, when all the white people die off, then the Democrats will have a permanent majority to rule. And that's what they've been banking on. And that's I mean, so you could say that this is also part of the plan is to get as many people in as possible, then eventually give them amnesty, and then they'll vote Democrat for the rest of their lives, thus ensuring the future of the Democrat Party. And there was also a little bit I would submit racism, and where Democrats thought, well, if we can import brown people from South and Central America, they're going to vote for us because brown people like us better than the Republicans, which is kind of racisty and is also not true as we saw in the last election where you saw Hispanic voters start moving over to Donald Trump. So yeah, so I yeah, I don't know. And I mean, what's the point of calling it treason except for a talking point because you're not going to get trials, right, Who do you go after for treason? Joe Biden? Yeah, that's a good point, But it's just to understand the significance of what was undertaken and why is just it just makes your blood. Boy, Yes, they and justify the means they're willing to do anything anything for political power. It does. That's pretty scary. Yeah, No, it absolutely is. It absolutely is. John. I appreciate the call. Let me get to this one last SoundBite here because I think it's important. This is a Democrat from Cumberland County, Charles Smith. He actually raises issues with the waiver of government immunity that I think should probably get tightened up because I think he is I think he is correct. Here, County or later on, a city shall have waived its immunity from civil libdality and tort if it does not comply with GS. One five three eight. THAT'SH one four or five point five, and an authorized alien commits a crime against a person or property within the corporate limits of the county or later on it would be the city. I made this point in committee yesterday that I think it's important to define commits a crime. I'm not sure exactly what that means. You could argue, as Representative Stevens did, that it's it's at the time someone is charged with the crime. I don't read it that way, and I think there's it's vague for that reason. I think commits a crime to me suggests some type of conviction. And so that's important when you start talking about exposure to civil ibetally, because douse you have to have standing, and until someone has standing, they cannot bring a lawsuit. And if it does require a conviction, as I think you could reasonably interpret, that could take two or three years. And if you're exposing a county or a city to civiliability, there's going to be a sexual limitations to that tortue claim. Uh. And so even if you were a proponent of this provision, there are concerns. As an attorney, and I don't think that we should enact legislation that lends itself to subjective interpretations. I think that's completely fair. I think that is completely fair. Right. If the legislation says somebody you know that you can sue in the jurisdiction where somebody you know commits a crime, what does that mean? It could be mean it could mean that they're charged with a crime, or it could mean convicted of a crime, so that would get litigated. And if it's conviction, then that takes a certain amount of time for that process to run through the courts, and then you may have expired the statute of limitations to sue the local jurisdiction. So it's unclear. So whatever the intent of the legislature is, I think they need to make it clear. Is it being charged with a crime or convicted? All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecallanershow dot com. 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