Dems release three Epstein emails... GOP releases thousands more (11-13-2025--Hour1)

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And that guy Wolf what is with these Dickensian names in these stories? You know, the author, what's his first name, It's like Michael Wolf or something, was basically coaching Epstein on how to take down Donald Trump. So a very big reveal for the Democrats yesterday. Oh my goodness, this changes everything. The Republicans responded by releasing tens of thousands of emails, which undermined the Democrats three selectively edited emails, which then prompted Democrats to be outraged at the release of all of the rest of the documents because they're all about transparency or something. Okay, I'm not really following the strategy on this, but I think the key here is we're not talking about the democrats terrible shut down strategy, and they're folding and caving at the same time as they released all of these Epstein, well the three emails that were selectively edited, because otherwise it would undermine their case that Trump is somehow a pedophile or something. Okay, so let's first start. I've got a lot of stuff on this. So all of you lefties that are where, don't you jug about Epstein. We're doing it. This is your moment to shine. Seven oh four, five, seven oh eleven, ten. If you want to weigh in on the conversation, this is your opportunity. So this is Matt Margolis at PJ Media. Democrats thought they had a winning hand when they released three carefully select did Jeffrey Epstein emails on Wednesday morning. The timing was no accident. With their caucus still reeling from their base turning on them for caving on the government shutdown, they needed a distraction. He's exactly right, by the way, this was obvious to like everybody, even the media. The legacy media outlets could not deny that the timing was. As the kids would say, sus or suspicious to us older people who use full words. And they believe these emails would deliver a distraction, but they may have miscalculated. The so called bombshell consisted of three email exchanges. The crown jewel of their selective leak was a twenty eleven email between Jeffrey Epstein and Gilline Maxwell, in which Epstein described Trump as quote the dog that hasn't barked okay. He noted that a victim had spent hours with Trump at Epstein's house. Democrats redacted the victim's name in their release, but we actually know who they were talking about the emails. The victim was Virginia Jeffrey or Jeffrey or Jeffrey. She is now deceased. The reason for the redaction becomes clear when you learned that Jeffrey was actually has actually said what she's actually said under oath, and what she has said under oath is that she never actually did witness Donald Trump engage in any wrongdoing. So yeah, there's that. So is that why you redacted her name? That seems to be the most obvious explanation. And you know me, I'm an Akham's raiser kind of a guy, despite me having a goateee, I do believe that the most obvious explanation is usually the correct one. And in this case, you know, I hear the hoof beats and I think horses, not zebras, And so I suspect that is why the Democrats redacted her name, because if you had her name out there, everybody would be like, oh, but didn't she testify that she never did witness Trump saying or doing anything illegal or with anybody like that. Yeah, she stated that Trump never acted inappropriately with her, and that she never saw Trump and Jeffrey Epstein together, and that she never saw Trump at any of Epstein's houses, and she actually says that in her memoir as well. So yeah, I would suspect that's why they redacted her name. It wasn't doubt of some sort of you know, we're trying to protect the victims, survivors and all that. Once again, she has already died, so there isn't anything like there's no legal prohibition about using her name or anything like that. So yeah, yeah, it's obviously they're trying to gin up a smear campaign, right with these three emails. Now, this is Look, you can believe that Donald Trump was involved in Epstein's affairs and all of this other stuff and still recognize the play that the Democrats did yesterday on this. Okay, they are exclusive things like you don't have to accept one and therefore the other. You can believe that both of those things are true at the same time. Okay, Democrats redicted her name for political purposes. I think that's pretty clear. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said that quote the Democrats selectively leaked emails to the liberal media to create a fake narrative to smear President Trump. I think that's pretty obvious. The fact remains. She says that President Trump kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of his club mar A Lago decades ago for being a creep to his female employees, including Virginia Giffrey. This is, by the way, from the from PJ media. Republicans on the House Oversight Committee decided to respond by releasing the entire trove of twenty thousand documents they obtained from the estate of Jeffrey Epstein, all of them, every single page. You guys should be happy, right, Democrats should be celebrating. You have gotten the Epstein files right from his estate. You got twenty thousand files. Now pour through them, go find the stuff that the Biden administration obviously could not locate, because had they located them, they surely would have released this stuff to prevent Orange Hitler from once again assuming control of the government. Right, I mean, that's what you would do if you are trying to thwart the murderer of democracy. No, see, to me, this is speaking of dogs that don't bark like this is. This to me is the most obvious counterfactual for the theory that somehow or another, Trump is implicated in all this illegal activity and that's why he's not releasing all of this. Now, look, there is some evidence that, you know, Trump is behaving in a way that does make you scratch your head, and you're like, why wouldn't you just release everything? Where I tend to lean on this and I don't know this. I have no inside knowledge, but just looking from the outside like you are, it seems to me that there may be some other people's names in some of these files, and he wants to protect them that And I don't know what those names are in the files for right, Like they could just be email correspondents. They could be you know, meetings or lunches, or they could be you know, trips on the Lolita expressed, you know, like Bill Clinton took multiple times that the Democrats don't ever seem to care about asking him about. But you know, like because they could do that, they could say, Hey, Bill, were you ever on these flights with other people who were on the flights with you? Oh, actually, we do have the flight logs. We've had those for years. So I suspect that that might be part of the reason why. So you would expect Democrats to be very, very very happy at the release of the twenty thousand documents. According to the New York Times, though Democrats are not actually happy about this. They are quote livid, the very upset. They claim the sheer volume of the release was intended to distract attention from their distraction I mean, sorry, from their revelations about Trump's actions. So you don't want all the documents, you know. Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us says the meaning of life and art. Stories are told through images and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video started in nineteen ninety seven and Minhill, North Carolina. 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They released the three emails. The Republicans respond by releasing the entire trove of twenty thousand documents they obtained from the estate of Jeffrey Epstein, and according to The New York Times, Democrats are mad about this, saying that's too much. You release too many documents. Yeah, So, as Matt Margolis says at PJ Media, Democrats cherry picked three emails to manufacture a narrative scandal, and when Republicans counter by releasing everything, that's the problem. That's the problem. Also, one of the emails literally states that Donald Trump demanded Gilain Maxwell to stop what they were doing regarding quote the girls. So that's not exactly I don't think that's a smoking gun. And remember Trump has said that Epstein was he kept hiring away mar A Lago staff, and he was coming into the club and he was like recruiting these girls away from mar A Lago, and that was one of the reasons why he was why they had a falling out. Also the land deal where Trump outbit him on some property and Epstein got mad about it. So there's that. There's more because other outlets are going through some of the thousands of emails and documents from the estate and they're finding some other stuff that and I have some of their reports about it. But first, let's go over and talk to Jackie. Hello, Jackie, how are you. I haven't heard from you in a while. Hey, buddy, how you doing. I'm doing fine. How are you? I'm good, I'm good. Hey. I just want to say, man, I think there's I've always thought that this this Epstein thing, maybe Trump's watergate. Uh. I don't know if he participated in this, in these things, but I am fairly confident that he knew what was going on. He knew why Epstein was recruiting these young ladies away from uh from marl Igo. I also think, you know, when you look at those emails that that Epstein said where he mentioned Trump, there's all that can it can only be one of two things he could be. I'm going to tell you right away. When you tell me that I only have two choices, my radar goes up because that's usually a false choice inbound. No, I'm working on that. No. What I'm saying is he can He's either telling the truth or he's telling a lie. Right, it can only be one of two things. I mean about what about about Trump knowing you know is involvment in it, and he mentioned something about Trump that something had to landed. I forget the Za quote yesterday, but I just think there's there's more to this than then Trump is letting on. I don't know. Again, I don't know if he participated in it, but I believe he knows what was going on. And then we hang on a second. Everybody now knows. Everybody knows, now, right, Your your accusation is that he knew at the time and or participated. Right, Yes, Okay. Right, And so there is no evidence. There is no evidence of that, and so let me come back to the let me come back. So hang on, but let me let me come back to the one. Let me come back to the one. Uh counterfactual. I mentioned this in the last segment. If there's evidence in the files in the you know, in the emails or anywhere. If there is evidence that ties Trump to Epstein in the way that you allege, why wasn't the Biden d o J able to to leak or release that that proof. Why didn't they do that? I believe there's a cover. Up by the by the bid in d o J. Bye, Yeah, by by the by the by both administrations. But specifically the specifically the Biden d o J. You're you're you're making another accusation, then that the Biden d o J with Merrick Garland that went after Trump in all of the various ways they went after Trump for the better part of eight years. This was this was something that they did not want to go after him on. Oh, absolutely absolutely, because because my my opinion is it's like a I don't know if there's a good analogy, but it's like like somebody gets caught with a big bag of drugs and you have to determine if he was trafficking the drugs or if they were for for for personal consumption. I don't believe that all these women that uh that that Epstein was was was was was dealing with and trafficking that it was all for personal consumption. It was there were other people involved in this. I really believe that, So I'm open to that possibility. I've i've i've suggested as a theory that he was a middleman, a cutout for or a bag man for foreign governments, for the for the US government to do things that they didn't want on the books, and so they would they would use him a compromised financier with you know, access to a lot of money that would then he would be able to uh, you know, to essentially launder it or hide it from prying eyes. Yeah, that that's possibility. A honeypot operation is another possibility. But there there hasn't been a lot of well hang on, but there hasn't been a lot of There hasn't been a lot of confirmation or prove to support these theories, and so I don't I don't launch them as accusations. But we've already seen the connection with the Prince in Great Britain. With the press, with the press in Great Britain, the press. Oh well yeah, yeah, Prince Andrew. We've already seen We've already seen that connection. Right, That's a connection that doesn't but that doesn't prove that he was he was like an eye operator or cut out for the C. I A. Again, I'm open to the possibility that that is the case, but that would also indicate them about the CIA. But I think that shows that there are other prominent people involved in US. Yeah. Well, the guy moved in prominent circles. Yeah, he moved in prominent circles, and. The press happened to be one of them. Have you seen that video when that Epstein and Trump are apparently at a party and they're women dancing. I don't think so. Yeah, there's a video where Trump is at a social event and there's some there he and he and Epstein are standing beside each other, you can easily find it, and they're women dance and they're looking out into the to the crowd of the women, and then Epstein and Trump are having a private conversation. Oh my gosh, that means he's a child rapist. You totally got it. You salved the case, Jackie. No, no, no, I didn't say that. No, I said, but it's obvious that they're they're they're googling at the women. Oh my gosh, they're now you proved it. Sorry, Yeah, I mean you have jumped the gun. That doesn't prove anything. What I'm saying is there's obviously a very personal relationship between there was a person, there. Was we already knew that though. Yeah, but we already knew that. But we already knew that and nobody And that's the thing is all of that predated, all of that predated any of the charges. Look, Epstein was this high flying guy who lived down in the same town as like a mile or something from mar A Lago. They they knew each other. They would go to events together. He was a member of mar A Lago, but they had a falling out. Trump kicked him out of the club. They so like all of that was no. But when you have a personal relationship with someone, you know what's. Going on, and no you don't. No, that's not true. Trump knew about the thing. You I know, I know you want to believe that. Hang on, Jackie and I got a run. I appreciate the call. I know you want to believe that. I require the proof because we already knew that they knew each other, they moved in the same circles and everything. But again, I keep coming back to this idea that if the people who spent almost a decade trying to destroy Donald Trump, his business, and his family, and they had this information that was the smoking gun. I find it completely implausible that they would not have produced the evidence leaked it out somehow in order to save the democracy. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville is your connection. Whether you're celebrating an anniversary, a honeymoon, maybe you want to plan a memorable proposal, or get family and friends together for a big old reunion. Cabins of Asheville has the ideal spot for you where you can reconnect with your loved ones and the things that truly matter. Nestled within the breath taking fourteen thousand acres of the Pizga National Forest, their cabins offer a serene escape in the heart of the Blue Ridge Mountains. 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It's a very so teek kind of rule. But yes, unanimous consent requires every member of the House to agree unanimously. Okay. So this procedural move would have fast tracked the release of all of the remaining Epstein files. Burchett said that he requested the UC or unanimous consent in an attempt to cut out all of this nonsense. So this is what the Democrats wanted. They want unanimous or they wanted the release of the Epstein files. Right, They've been talking about it over and over. In fact, hang on a second, I have here in the old inbox from the North Carolina Democrat Party attacking Michael Wattley. Michael Wattley complicit in covering up the Epstein files. That's their press release from this morning. Am. Carolinians deserve to know what does former RNC chair Wattley know and how long has he known it? I feel like this deserves a gosh, he's obviously guilty. Right, So obviously the Democrats would be in favor of the unanimous consent, and then you just got to get those you know, pedophile loving and covering Republicans on board for unanimous consent. And so Burchette, he introduces the UC. He requests the UC to cut out all of this nonsense. And it failed. It was blocked by Democrats. Why see, here's one of the things. Let me let me jump on over to. This is the from the American Prospect American Prospect dot calm or Prospect dot org, sorry, Prospect dot or by Ryan Cooper, How on earth are we just now hearing about Trump's hours with an Epstein victim? And then he lays out a timeline here where, of course he omits that Trump kicked Epstein out of mar A Lago, out of the club, so we banned him from coming back. That's not in his handy little timeline. But he's asking, like, why are we only hearing about these emails now? He points out that Democrats were in control of the Oversight Committee for several years. They could have subpoenaed this stuff. Epstein was long dead. Why didn't they do anything? And what about Merrick Garland? And so this is the narrative that Democrats are telling themselves, is that Garland's behavior is chalked up to this gentlemanly agreement that you don't go after your political opponents. That's so, that's why he's just stodgy, you know, he's just a stodgy old man from a bygone era and all of this. It's unsporting not to give your high profile political opponents every possible benefit of the legal doubt to the point where they can get away with grotesque violations of legal procedure and skate on many crimes. So that's that's what they're telling themselves as to why the Democrats under the Biden doj Why Merrick Garland didn't go after Trump with this stuff, didn't leak it, Why Democrats in the House, you know, didn't go after Trump on this stuff, didn't release or leak this stuff. It's because you don't do this stuff so close to an election, and you don't you know, you don't weaponize the government against your political opponents because you don't want to set that kind of precedent. Yeah, exactly, when you don't understand the conclusions, right, when you have difficulty drawing a logical conclusion, go back and reassess your assumptions. Your assumption is that Trump is guilty, Your assumption is that he's been covering all of this up, and your assumption is that Democrats want to get all of the files out. Those assumptions obviously are not correct, because the conclusion that you're seeing the reality of what you've seen doesn't make any sense based on those primary assumptions. But this is what the Democrats are telling themselves. You heard a little bit of it there from Jackie as well. There's a narrative crafting going on, and they hope that if they say it enough times that it calcifies. And this is why they were upset when the Republicans released the twenty thousand plus documents in response to the selective edited release of three emails by Democrats. You know, their attempt there is to craft a narrative and have it calcify before there can be a response. But by releasing twenty thousand documents, that swamps the release of the selectively edited emails. And that's why Democrats were complaining, because they wanted their narrative to calcify. All Right, if you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, and you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and it's a website and it combines news from around the world in one place so you can compare coverage and verify information. You can check it out at check dot ground dot news slash Pete. 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This was June twenty eighteen, so the first term of Trump email exchange between Epstein and the former Norwegian Prime Minister thorpe Jorn Jaggayan, I think is how he pronounces that, who was then Secretary General of the Council of Europe Epstein claimed to have previously advised a high level Russian diplomat on how to deal with Trump as he pushed for a meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. So here you have Epstein reaching out to the Norwegian Prime minister saying, arrange a meet with me with Lavrov because I've got info that Putin might want. He said, quote, I think you might suggest to Putin that Lavrov can get insight on talking to me. The Tali Cherkin used to talk to me, but he died. That was the Russia's foreign the former ambassador to the UN. So random question here, but why would Russia need insight into Donald Trump in twenty seventeen, if he was a Russian asset or a puppet, Why why would Epstein be offering this information up right? Because Trump's already in the pocket of Putin, He's already compromised, he's already working for the Kremlin. He's got all these connections right, all of this stuff that the Democrats were alleging. Why would Epstein be reaching out prior to all of the crossfire hurricane stuff. Why would he be working with the Russians. It almost sounds like Trump may have been the victim of a Russian disinformation campaign. Oh that's right. He was orchestrated by Hillary Clinton, whose husband was a pal of Jeffrey Epstein. Interesting, Epstein said, Cherkin, who is the dead guy? Now, he was great. He understood Trump after our conversations. It's not complex. He must be seen to get something. It's that simple. So here's Epstein trying to tell the Russians, this is how the mind of Trump works. I'm going to advise the Russians on how to get one over on the president of the United States of America. You guys realize Epstein's a lying pedophile, right, Like? Is that escaping everybody at some point? Like, I feel like people don't internalize that when they're weighing these words. And then there's Michael Wolfe, the journalist quote unquote who was advising Epstein before he was charged and then through and after and trying to figure out a way to take down Trump. He said, there's an opportunity to come forward and talk about Trump in such a way that could garner you great sympathy and help finish him. Interested wolf is acting as a like pr agent for Epstein. Michael Wolfe the guy wrote the book about Trump, and there are all these lies in the book. Although the you know, official Trump administration work with them on the book as they're morons, and they keep wanting this approval from legacy media types. I don't know why. Yeah, like guys, shady operators, all of them. Let me jump over. Well, hang on a second, let me do that, and now let me jump over and get Ernest on. Hello, Ernest, Welcome to the show. I have about a minute, Pete. Thanks for taking my call. The old saying is believe nothing, you hear half of what you see. Bring me some context here. Yesterday I was reading that the victim in the email that Epstein the email at Epstein victim that. She's dead, correct, Guinia Jeffree. She was alive, denied that Trump had had any sexual relationship with her. Correct, And that she had and she had said under she said that under oath, and she also testified under oath that she never even saw him at Marla or at Epstein's house. So the two most two witnesses that would be most important are no longer with us. You can't believe any of these emails due to motivation, So can you put some context as to what we're really looking at here with these releases. Yeah, I said at the beginning of the hour, it's quite clear to me that the release of these three emails were designed to distract and take attention off of the failure of the Democrats in the shutdown, so everybody would talk about these emails. And then that's why they're so angry that the Republicans released then twenty thousand emails out of the House Oversight Committee. I think that it's pretty obvious by their reaction and the fact that when a unanimous consent motion was brought to release all of the Epstein files in the House, that Democrats blocked that as well, so they obviously are not actually interested in getting all the Epstein files released. I appreciate the call ernest. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening. And don't break anything while I'm gone.