Democrats promise to crush souls and maybe overthrow the government | Hour 2

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So as an aside, that's not realistic because like for example, in North Carolina, there are actually rules on how to draw the districts. There's law there and things like you cannot break up counties or you should not Splitting counties can only be done as like a last resort. They have to be compact, they have to be contiguous. They should follow like geographical boundaries and stuff like that, like natural boundaries, and a lot of states have similar types of rules. And then there are groupings where certain counties share similarities and so those should be grouped together. And this has been settled throughout the decades over redistricting fights going back I don't know one hundred years. I mean, some of the stuff is in the state constitution as well, So you can't draw districts that are not going well. I may say it this way. If you were to draw districts to try to create parody, they're going to look like jerry manders. They're going to look all squiggly and weird and everything else, because you're going to have to like and this is what Democrats have been doing in the states they control, and they did in Virginia. Right, you had five of the eleven members of Congress under their proposed map, five of those members of Congress would all be from northern Virginia. Would they all live within twenty minutes of each other, And then they would draw the district like to scoop up a part of northern Virginia and then fan out across all the Republican territory. Right, So you would you draw it like if you're looking at Charlotte, for example, Like our population in the city of Charlotte is now approaching a million people, and the congressional districts are about eight hundred and fifty thousand people. So Charlotte could be its own district and that's it. Like you could draw one district for Charlotte, boom done, But then that means everything else around Charlotte is Republican, right, Or you could scoop up some of Charlotte included in a Republican geography, and then that would make that a Republican district. Still, but you're now carving up Charlotte in order to put enough Democrats in the Republican district, but not enough where they could actually win. And Democrats would do this in the reverse, they would scoop up enough of the population of Charlotte in order to make that a blue district. Makes sense, right, So it's to achieve parity in every district is not realistic. And Russ recognizes that. Now the other side of this is that if you draw districts like in South Carolina, they've got six total and right now, I think. Or maybe seven. I think it's a six to one map, and if you draw every district as basically only winnable by a Republican, there is a theory here that it will force the Democrat Party in that state to moderate, because in order to go to a general election and have a chance at beating a Republican, they're going to have to not be crazy, you know, they're going to have to take some positions and then vote that way. They're going to have to take some positions that are not in lockstep with the national party platform, because the national Democrat Party platform is so at odds with what the majority voter in South Carolina believes in. Right if most of the voters in South Carolina are Republicans, they don't agree with all of this stuff that the Democrats at the national level are pushing. And so if you make Democrats run in districts that are Republican but are winnable, it will force that party to moderate. And I have said many times here that the Democrat Party does not have any natural immunity against the kind of Marxist ideology infiltration that we have seen. They can't do it, and so this may actually force the party to moderate somewhat in states where the national message does not resonate. Rather than carving out a district where you could be as crazy moonbat leftist as you want to be and still win in a state like South Carolina, maybe it would be better for the party to actually get some more blue dog Democrats in their ranks. Right Russ goes on to say one side wants to play by the rules. The other wants their opponents to vanish or be destroyed. Thus the right has to push back. What I hate about it is that I don't think we have any Cincinnatus or George Washington who, once having the power necessary to win, would lay it down and go back home. Yeah. That's that's a rare person. That's why we can only really think of two throughout all of human history. You know, people who came in one power and then gave it up and went back home to their farm. Here's House Minority leader Hakim Jeffries. He said, quote, we will beat the far right extremists. We're going to win in November, and then we're going to crush their souls as it relates to the extremism that they are trying to unleash on the American people. So toning down the rhetoric obviously right, It's a marked reversal from years of high minded Democratic rhetoric that included advocating for independent redistricting commissions, campaign finance curbs, and more, even as Republicans used the courts and their control of state governments to consolidate and enhance their own parties power. So the framing here is obviously Republicans bad, Democrats good, and Democrats are just being reluctantly dragged into this. They didn't want this fight. They weren't doing any of the gerrymandering. No, they didn't want to do this. This fight was brought to them, and so they're doing it to sound familiar, Right, both parties are making the same arguments. They're both saying the same things that the other side started it, and so we're going to keep doing it. And this is the state of affairs that we find ourselves in. Right, as conservatives, we deal with the world as it is, with reality. Several Democratic states, including New York, have been hindered by their adoption of independent redistricting commissions and other processes meant to take partisan considerations out of the drawing of congressional lines. Now Democrat leaders are openly discussing overriding those safeguards. Yes, because they want to segregate by race. The party's anger this again, Politico. The party's anger also translates to a growing appetite to remake the Supreme Court, which many House Democrats say is ushering in an era of Jim Crow two point zero, which is obviously silly because that was a Democrat policy. But note note what the Democrats are saying here, what Politico is giving them the permission structure to do. It's not just over the redrawing of lines, no, no, no, it's the redrawing of lines. And we're going to. Have to we're going to have to pack the Supreme Court, and we're going to have to start throwing judges out of office and then packing those courts. Representative Johnny Olzuski, Democrat from Maryland, has introduced legislation to term limit the Supreme Court justices. Representative Sean Caston said there are tools to quote kneecap the Supreme Court that Congress has never used. Such as stripping their power to review lower court rulings. Just blow up the whole thing. Just blow it all up. Everything that we've been doing for two hundred and fifty years is blow it all up. Because Democrats are worried about being able to maintain power, Jeffreys and Democrat leaders laid out an ambitious plan this week. I talked about this earlier in the week, where states like New York, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon, and Washington would redistrict before twenty twenty eight. This is not a war we started, but as Democrats, it's important we also get aggressive in that fight, says elan Omar. Recognize where we are. You know, stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life and our stories are to through images and videos, preserve your stories with Creative Video. Started in nineteen ninety seven in Minhill, North Carolina. It was the first company to provide this valuable service, converting images, photos and videos into high quality produced slide shows, videos and albums. The trusted, talented and dedicated team at Creative Video will go over all of the details with you to create a perfect project. Satisfaction guaranteed. 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The focus on twenty twenty eight comes as opportunities to redistrict in twenty twenty six right now are running dry, except for a potential last ditch pickup in Maryland, where Democrats want the legislature to eliminate Republican representative Andy Harris's district. There's only one. There's only one Republican district in Maryland. And so while they're complaining about South Carolina, which is probably now not going to eliminate one of the districts, the one district that a Democrat holds in Maryland, they're like, we're totally doing this. However, the state's primary is two weeks away and mail in ballots have already gone out. Again, my standard would be if people are already voting, you don't get to redraw the maps because people are already voting and some have already voted, right, So that's the standard that I am using here. So if South Carolina has already sent out like absentee ballots and military ballots, then they probably should not redistrict because people have already been submitting their votes. We'll see if Maryland moves ahead on this now. Other House Democrats are calling for new investments in state level races to support lawmakers who will commit to redistricting efforts ahead of twenty eight and as well as the twenty thirty census. Redraw Democrats are going to be moving to do what Republicans did fifteen years ago, and that is to focus on state legislatures, said Congressman Kuwas and Boome, Democrat from Maryland. The smartest thing to do would be to control the process, right. Slight problem for Democrats. Your states are hemorrhaging people. People are leaving your states, right, They are voting with their feet, and they are moving to Republican led places. So the Republican states are growing more populated, and that means they will have more districts, and your states are going to be losing seats. So you're going to get to a point where you can redistrict every single state you control, but you won't have enough electoral College votes, which is why they're trying to blow up the electoral college. By the way, with the Interstate Compact right where states are agreeing that screw the electoral college votes. That won't matter what. We'll just ignore the will of our own voters. If our voters vote for Trump, but the popular vote, the national popular vote, is going to Kamala Harris, then we're going to throw our electoral votes to Kamala Harris. So we're basically going to nullify the Constitution. And by the way, this is what the Civil War was fought over. It was over nullification, and Democrats keep pushing more and more nullification efforts. For example, do. You remember a guy by the name of Mark Elias, the super lawyer, as he is dubbed in the media and among Democrats. I use it in a pejorative sense to quote David Strom at hot air dot com. Mark Elias is a disgusting scumbag. He is the lawyer that Democrats go to in order to whitewash lies, launder money, or push frivolous lawsuits. You may know him as the man who washed the money that paid for the Steele dossier, charging the Clinton campaign the costs of legal expenses. He is so sleazy that the sleazy law firm he worked for fired him. His stench was so bad. Elias, as with all the national Democrats, is absolutely gobsmacked that the scheme to subvert the Virginia Constitution in order to help the Democrats jerrymander their state failed. Elias believes he is the cleverest man in the room in any room he walks into. Actually, as apparently Hakim Jeffries believed he was, and it never occurred to this snake of a man that the law would apply to Democrats. So Mark Elias tweets out a quote from the Virginia Constitution. Whenever any government shall be found inadequate or contrary to these purposes, a majority of the community hath an indubitable, inalienable, and indefeasible right to reform, alter, or abolish it in such manner as shall be judged most conducive to the public. Wheal Parker Thayer from the Capital Research Center points out that Mark Elias has read the stage of Trump derangement syndrome the publicly calling for the abolition of the Virginia State government stage of TDS right, because it's all about protecting the norms very democracy, such rule of law. King Jeffreys in company wanted to convince Virginia Democrats to dismiss the entire Supreme Court and replace the current members with the ones that are more compliant or maybe more blackmailable. Others want Spanberger to simply ignore the Supreme Court ruling and force the ten to one map into law. Elias seems to think, though, that merely subverting the law is not going far enough. If you want to preserve norms and democracy, you need to throw the whole government out and replace it, which seems to me a bit insurrection y. Nullification got a message from Jen who says, you are reading how the Democrats are stating that they have been playing nice and are being forced into actions they find objectionable. How do you keep from choking when you read lies that are that obviously blatant? Well, I get just really drunk beforehand before I do the show, and then I. Just it relaxes. The peristalsis. So from again, this is a David Strom hot air dot Com. Highly recommend the website and David's work. Mark Elias seems to think that failing to adequately serve Virginians, who are split pretty evenly between Democrats and Republicans, will only be possible if over ninety percent of their representatives are Democrats, with half of them living in or around Fairfax County. That's again, that would be a fair map. In Mark Elias's view, that's a fair map where it's ten Democrats one Republican in a state that adopted a redistricting commission and Drew am app that was six' five Democrat republican based on voting patterns and registration data and all of. That that's not fair and so because The Supreme court, said you guys acted in an unconstitutional way to ram this thing, through. Your map is not. Applicable and So Mark elias's response, is, well we need to overthrow the entire state, government which is a, yeah that's a reasonable position to. Take this From Jonathan, turley who is a constitutional law, professor best selling author of a book Called rage and The, Republic elias appears to believe That democrats do not need to stop at simply sacking and packing The Virginia Supreme. COURT i went over that. Idea they had a conference call over the weekend and they were, like let's set a new. Maximum age for All Supreme court. Justices let's set a minimum retirement age at fifty four because all of the judges are at least fifty. Three so this would force every one of the judges to have to, retire and then The democrats could pack it with their own. Appointments and by the, way one of the judges that struck down the unconstitutional process was actually An obama, appointee okay or, sorry in a not An, obama but he was A democrat appointee because it's a state. Legislature so their, idea let's fire everybody and pack The Supreme. Court elias Reminded democrats that they could eliminate the Entire virginia government under the state. Constitution the demand for radical action was prompted by The virginia, justices including one appointed by here We, go Then Democratic Governor Mark, warner who found the democratic effort. Unconstitutional it does not matter that Leading, democrats including the governor THE cia turned to. Go Abigail spanberger also believed that The democrats could be found in violation of the state constitution in pushing forward with the controversial. Effort right she said that before they did, it and then she just signed off on. It the adverse decision has resulted in the same demands for radical institutional changes from some of the same, voices pledging to pack THE Us Supreme court once they retake power to guarantee that they never lose. Again in, fact on a, SECOND i did get a message. Here, yeah here's the cackling One Kamala. Harris. Oh hang on a, Second hang on a, SECOND i forgot to plug my computer back in during the, breaks and NOW i have to start, say, look. This is a moment where there are. No bad, Ideas no bad idea brainstorm is What i'd like to call. It, Whoa, oh do you mean no bad idea is under the cone of? Creativity maybe that's what it sounds. Like, well what are some of these no bad ideas she's. Got let's take a. Listen it's going to sound a lot Like James carville's recommendation from a few weeks. Ago, say, look this is a moment where there are no bad. Ideas no bad idea brainstorm is What i'd like to call. It and in that no bad ideas, brainstorm we talk about what we need to do and think about doing around the Electoral. College we talk. About the idea Of Supreme court, reform which includes expanding The Supreme court. Packing we invite a conversation about multi members. Districts what we talk, About. Look, well multi member, districts so you want Two congress people from a single. District well that's just. Stupid that if. We win The, senate which we should and we, will then The Senate Judiciary committee should have rules that they put in place so when these people come before as nominees to The Supreme court and, lie that they are held to account and consequence not just that somebody goes on cabled news and says they, lie but that there are rules in place to actually penalize people for lying to A Senate judiciary. Committee so is this about starry? Decisives which is that's what that's the the, like if you have a, precedent you should just follow the, President Like supreme courts should never go back and revisit rules or rulings rather because there's a, precedent and we should follow, precedent even if the precedent was wrong in the eyes Of. Democrats so what what she's what she's actually talking about there Is democrats holding a veto essentially over The Supreme. Court so the way if Any Supreme. Court nominee comes before them and, says, YES i follow starry. Decisives, Sure, however if the previous president was incorrectly arrived at Dred, scott anybody, right if you've got bad rulings that have come down from The Supreme court from like a hundred years, ago why would you continue to follow? That see what The democrats are seeing here again is the dismantling of this infrastructure that they have erected over. Decades and they're watching one pillar after another come down because they never were lawful in the first, place they were never constitutional in the first. Place and that's what this Conservative Supreme court has been doing in dismantling all of these like The chevron, ruling all of that, Stuff chevron, deference like all of these different things that have come down over eighty years since the progressive. ERA i guess it's now probably almost one hundred Since Woodrow, wilson worst president ever since the progressive, era and The Supreme court, saying, no that's not in the, law that's not what the law. Says this was. Misinterpreted and so when cases get brought before it to challenge the constitutionality of a, ruling right, like that's what this. Is this is what conservatives And republicans have been engaged in for. Decades classic, example best example Is roe. V, Waight, Right what what what did conservatives And, republicans pro, lifers what did they do After roe. V waight or. Cacv Planned Parentog what did they? Do did they ignore the? Law they did. Not they began filing lawsuits and they have fought For they fought for fifty years to overturn the misapplication of law in order to. Rational. Lies roe. V wade AND kcv planned. Parenthood they used the. System democrats don't want to do. That they don't want to have to find cases and bring them through and wait decades in order to get their. Victory, no they're just going to turn over the whole. Table just flip the, table kick out a bunch of, people pack the. Courts this is what they're promising to. Do there's more here that. We agree that it is right to have ethics rules For Supreme court, justices and let's put those in. Place let's talk about state looked For Puerto rico AND. Dc there you. Go these are the THINGS i think that we've got to. Do we've got to neutralize these red states from, cheating including blue, states expanding their maps and all of, THIS i think, Is, look we gotta fight fire with. Fire these folks are planning to. Win, yeah we're Not. Democrats, well we don't do any of this. Stuff The republicans are, cheating they're. Cheating. Yeah the only states that have had their maps tossed by the courts for cheating basically have been blue. STATES a couple of messages here from the text, LINE i do not. KNOW i got a couple of. THESE i don't know why she sounds. DRUNK i think she always sounds. Drunk this is FROM i think It's. Rick. Yeah at what point does this kind of stuff spark a Second Civil? War, well The Fourth. Turning we've talked about this book. BEFORE i think his name Is Steve, howe one of the authors of The the original book was from like the. Nineties he's done another updated one as co author passed away years. Ago but it talks about sort of the seasons they call them, turnings and how each season lasts about twenty years or, so and we are due for the Fourth. Turning and they made all these predictions based on their, theory and many of them came to. Pass and he has predicted that the Fourth, turning that we are in the fourth, turning which is crisis or, winter and just like everything, else you, know from the, winter then comes spring and you, know, regrowth rebirth into something. Else what that is may not be, better but something comes along. After and with the Fourth, turning he said it would be ignited by a nullification, crisis and he predicted it would have to do with the border with. Immigration he thought it would Be republican states rebelling against a federal government that refuses to enforce the. Border but as we have seen it seems like it might have been the. Opposite you Have democrat states offering sanctuary and that's prompting. Nullification and now it's not just, immigration they're now Becoming and, LOOK i, mean this is in The DEMOCRATS. Dna the nullification argument is in THEIR. Dna if they don't get what they, want they're, like, well, Leave we're gonna throw everything. Out we're gonna make these rules just, irrelevant and we're gonna do whatever we want to do because we want. Power it's in THEIR. Dna but, no you're not the only. One in, Fact CHARLES. C. W cook At National review he talked about this yesterday in a piece Called i'm beginning to think the court packers have not thought this. Through he says he agrees With Abraham lincoln that, quote reverence for the laws ought to be the political religion of the. Nation as our founders, understood The constitution does not come a la. Carte if the government becomes, destructive it can indeed be, abolished but that comes at a. Cost As Thomas paine, wrote the world must be started. OVER i mention all of this because he, Says i've been wondering over the last week or so what the Outraged democrats who are currently vowing to pack The Supreme court think would happen next if they were to get their, way, Right, like let's game this out a little. Bit you, win you, win you in The, house you win The, senate and then in twenty eight you win the. Presidency you have the. Trifecta let's and or maybe you have majority proof or you have veto proof majorities in The house And. Senate, whatever either, way you have the power to do these things that you're saying that we should do or you should do that you're going to pack The Supreme. Court do you. Imagine having wrapped yourselves in the finery of the institution's prior, reputation that you'll be able to proceed. As if nothing has. Changed. Right this was the famous tweet From Iowa hawk Blog David, berg who described, This you know the, pattern which is The left identify as an institution that has, credibility they kill, it they gut, it skin, it and then wear the skin suit around and demand everybody respect you wearing the skin suit as if you did something to earn all that credibility that the institution, had and that's not going to. Happen he, says we can either have A Supreme court whose decisions are, final or we can have a bipartite system in which the executive and the legislature are the only games in. Town there is no middle ground. Here even when The court is objectively wrong in its, Determinations AS i, mentioned pro lifers conservatives worked for fifty years to Overturn roe. V. Wade democrats just want to blow up the. Court that is a fundamental difference in how people approach the rule of. Law, if in an attempt to rig its decisions to their, politics The democrats were to add for justices to The, court the court would instantly cease to be because when they're describing packing the, court what they're talking about is destroying. It because after you pack, it nothing that The court says going forward is going to matter in the slightest and by, extension any attempts to enforce its prior rulings would be rendered impotent. Too in an instant the entire history Of american jurisprudence would be wiped, out and with it The. Constitution people are not going to salute that. Flag you know half of the country if you were to do. This you're going to add a couple new states so you get a majority in THE Us, senate and so you get to rule over the rest of the country in. Perpetuity. Right you're going to what make sure codify that the census so all always counts to legal. Immigrants you're going to open the borders to allow more INDs so you can always maintain A house. Majority you're going to blow up The Electoral college so you can never lose. The. Presidency and you're going to pack THE Us Supreme court so you only get rulings that favor your particular ideology at any given. Moment and you expect half the country's going to go along with this. Peaceably judging by their, rhetoric The democrats seem earnestly to believe that by taking this step they would gain control of The Supreme court in the same manner as they have gained control of Say harvard or The American Medical association or THE. Oscars but they would not they would gain the right to preside at its, funeral and after that the. Void you pack the court in an obviously nakedly partisan. Manner in order to achieve political, ends the court ceases to exist in its current. Form it will no longer be adhered To states will no longer be bound to their. Decisions this is another form of a nullification. Crisis all, right that'll do it for this. Episode thank you so much for. 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