Democrats' new Joe Rogan?! (07-17-2025--Hour3)

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How he wanted to complain about warning systems or something in Texas but whatever, and so Mark has called in with reply, Hello, Mark, welcome to the show. What's going on? I couldn't couldn't help, but I want to make fun of Mark. I mean, sorry, make fun of Brian. There, he didn't he couldn't tell his hand from his ass there. Oh my god, Oh yeah, he's a primiple of what of how roles are I? Can't you mark? Your signal is dropping in and out? It sounds like you're are you walking someplace? Are you driving? Can you uh not trying to give you a Verizon commercial book? Can you hear me now? Right now? It's clear okay, Yeah, they've got this checklist to where when they hear something, they have to look at their checklist to see if it's something that they believe in, and the and and and the right column how to respond to it as opposed to I mean, it's clear as day he wouldn't let you think the way you wanted to think. If you want to be a little bit liberal here, a little bit Republican there, he's trying to say that that's not a good thing. You have to go by one column whatever that column says. And those are the kind of morons that hold us back. Yeah, no, I agree. And that's the very thing that they accuse Trump supporters of doing. And I look, I recognize that that makes it difficult for people like Brian when trying to argue with me that they can't put me in a box. It makes it difficult for them. I am sympathetic to that, but that's not going to prompt me to now abandon principles or opinions and say I have to now align with this political party or this political leader. I have to agree with everything they say. I've never thought that way, and I think that's a problem, and it's a problem in the Democrat Party. They're saying this themselves party leadership, saying these purity tests are killing us in the Democrat Party. Yeah, that's comical how they how they don't they don't hear themselves speak when they speak. They can't tell the content of what they're of what they're saying. They can't analyze of how stupid they sound when they're saying whatever they're saying, especially Brian there. I mean, I wish I had more jokes. I wish I was a comedian to really lay it to him, but well I can't. Yeah, I mean I think we all we all hear how Brian operates. He calls enough shows and we hear his pattern. It's a familiar pattern. So yeah, Mark, I appreciate the call. It's like I just I give him chances, you know, to see if he can engage in the issue. And I'm hopeful that one day he will to just engage in the issue rather than throw the barbs make it personal, you know, oh your present, like those little those little slings that he has, Like they don't work on me. I don't think they work on any host here. They don't work on you know, anybody trying to engage in a good faith conversation. And he comes across as petty and unprepared, you know. But if you if he ever wants to have just a discussion about an issue, a topic, like I can do that. I talked about this the other day. I had an hour long conversation with a niece of mine who was on the left, and we talked about all sorts of topics and it never got personal because it was all done in good faith. It was done like, oh, why do you think the way you think? Oh that's interesting, what do you think about this? How did you come to that opinion? You know, stuff like that. You can engage in that kind of discourse. But if you're coming in looking to score points or uh, you know, embarrass the host, you or whoever, Like if you're if you're going into it to try to destroy the per that you're having a conversation with, at some point they're going to figure it out. And with Brian, I already know that's how he approaches these conversations, and so you're not going to get a good faith conversation. But I suspect that's not what he wants. That's my suspicion. I do have a bunch of messages here on the Liberty Buick GMC text line. Here on the PBS and NPR cuts. This is from a nine to eight OHO number. This is long overdue, Pete. Many more government cuts to go, though. Robert in Charlotte says, NPR has so many listeners, why weren't they bringing in revenue for the federal government. Private radio stations are profitable, so why was NPR costing us money? Pete? You should check out the ground News app. Actually, I'm an affiliate of theirs, so yes, you can. I use ground News all the time because they ground News does this thing where it's and I get no money for this, by the way, I pay for my subscriptions, So this is not illegal to tell you that ground News does a. They do a media bias, and so you can see where stories are moving and what outlets they're moving on, and then the outlets they are. They have ratings compiled by these different sources and stuff, so it'll show you, like stories that are getting reported heavily by the right or by the left, or you know, in the middle whatever, So you could see your own blind spots. That's why. It's one of the reasons why when people say, you know, oh, what about this story? That's why I go. When people like Brian call in and they want to raise the question about the floods down in Texas and the warning systems, that's all being reported on the left, not so much on the right. And I know that because Ground News. So there you go, and that's not a paid endorsement. Okay. I don't know if Pat McCrory is on the PBS stations. I don't know that. And I don't know if Brian is Tony or not. People keep asking if they are the same people, and Sean as well, how many aliases? This is another one. How many aliases does he have? I don't know. But when Porch oh, it was so who is this from Hendersonville? You have apparently mellowed out since Brian C. I don't know who Brian C is. I think you stopped halfway through your tweet here or your text message. Mister Hendersonville, you let nutjob Tony carry on and just heard loco Brian venting. But when poor Chernobyl Bob called in, you would cut him off, don't you, miss old Bob? No, I don't. Chernobyl Bob was a guy who when I went to Ashville, one of the first callers I got was a caller named Bob, and the previous host would allow this caller to just rant, and they gave him this nickname Chernobyl Bob because he starts off really calm and then he blows up like Chernobyl, right. And so when I first started engaging with this guy, it didn't take long before much like caller Winston, who I have also blocked from my show, but I hear them call other shows. Every host can do what they want, but I don't take Winston's calls because after you start engaging with them a little bit and ask them why they think certain things, and ask them for, you know, evidence for their opinions and that sort of stuff, all of a sudden, it turns into the Jews. It's the Jews. And at that point it's like, okay, I'm done. I I have no patience for it. And the guy starts screaming and yelling and going off the deep end and he can curse and you know, jeopardize the FCC license. So now that's why like the callers that I allow on to the program, and to be sure I allow them on. I don't have to put them on, but I choose to put them on. But whatever you think of Brian or Tony or whatever names they're using, they're not dropping F bombs. They're not cursing, right, And as long as people stay within the FCC guidelines and stuff, I'm I'm fine with that. And you know, or it's like you want to you want to blame everything on Jewish people, like, either way, yeah, that'll get your banned and usually. I mean I warned Bob too, and then I let him back on. I gave him a warning again, and then he blew it again, and then I banned him again. So that's how that went down up in Ashville. Oh the trip down memorily, here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina, just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Ashville is your connection. Whether you're celebrating an anniversary, a honeymoon, maybe you want to plan a memorable proposal, or get family and friends together for a big old reunion, Cabins of Asheville has the ideal spot for you where you can reconnect with your loved ones and the things that truly matter. Nestled within the breath taking fourteen thousand acres of the Pisga National Forest, their cabins offer a serene escape in the heart of the Blue Ridge Mountains. 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So I mentioned earlier this appeal by the NPR supporters and PBS supporters that say we have to keep the taxpayer funding or else these rural communities will no longer have NPR, and that can be life or death in times of emergency, as if there are no other radio stations or TV stations for that matter. I mean, I don't know who goes to the PBS station in times of an emergency. Have you ever done that? Like, oh my gosh, there's a tornado coming, we need to turn on doctor who Like, No, you don't turn on You don't turn on your PBS station for that. You turn on your local news station for that. And those are commercial broadcasts. You turn on your local radio station, right because that's local commercial and they've got people there versus like these NPR affiliates where there's virtually ever, if ever people in the building. You know, a lot of it's just automated, a lot of so a lot of them are just automated. That's not to say that the EAS alert doesn't go out on the NPR stations. They do, but they go out on every station, right so, and they go out on your phones. But that's that line of argument about the rural Americans needing this, and those Republicans are targeting rural Americans. See. I started thinking as I was seeing this obviously coordinated narrative take hold yesterday, because everybody was saying it, like everybody fell in line, Democrats and the CEO of NPR, they were all out there making the rounds, and they were all saying the same talking point about rural Americains. And it. Made me think, huh, are you guys saying this for some other reason? Because look, you surely must know that you got you know, Murkowski, you got Susan Collins of Maine, because of course you did. You got Mitch McConnell. But it's still passed, it's still got the votes in the Senate, so who are you making this argument for. Is this to actually prevent the cuts? Which, don't get me wrong, I fully believe they want the cuts to not happen. But if you know that, you don't control the House and the Senate and the presidency. And now it's past the House, or sorry, now it passed the Senate. So is there some other reason you're making this particular argument. And then I remembered our very breezy Anderson Clayton, the chair of the North Carolina Democrat Party. She likes to curse, and she's from Person County, and so she says y'all a lot, and that's the way she intends to help win back these conservative, blue dog rural American Trump loving voters because she curses and she says y'all, y'all. And they've been doing a listening tour. Remember I've talked about this, pointing out that like they're trying to okay, not win these rural areas, but to just not lose as badly. And on the flip side of that, Republicans are in the urban areas, they're trying not to lose as badly too. Okay, So that's the listening tour in the rural areas of North Carolina. And then I was like, ah, now it makes sense. That's why these senators were cursing. They were dropping h bombs and d bombs like hades and darn right, So they were pepper their speeches and their tweets and stuff with the curse words. Why would they do that. Well, it's Breezy Andres and Clayton. I call her that because she's Her Twitter handle is a Breezy Clayton. So anyway, and she's breezy. From what I understand, this is part of their outreach effort to rural North Carolinians and rural Americans. I suspect, just like they do with the quote healthcare topic, and they're using Medicaid for this very same purpose. Right, the cuts to Medicaid, it's gonna hurt the rural hospitals, it's gonna hurt the rural people. It's gonna hurt rural America. Where for you? Where for you? That's part of this strategy. One of the other parts of their strategy find the liberal Joe Rogan. Democrats need to have a Joe Rogan, which is funny because they had Joe Rogan and then they Deep sixth Bernie Sanders' presidential aspirations twice, and that kind of hacked off Joe Rogan. And then they went so far to the left on the social stuff that even Joe Rogan was like, this is nuts. So they had Joe and then they went so far to the left they lost Joe. So now they need to find another Joe Rogan. So they have been talking about finding themselves a Joe Rogan and not you, Harry Sissons. Sit down, they're not talking about you. So who could be the next Joe Rogan? Well, I am pleased to tell you that. According to David Weigel at semaphore dot com, the search for a liberal Joe Rogan has led Democrats to Jamie Harrison. Yeah, you don't know who that guy is, Okay, Jamie Harrison is the former chairman of the National Democratic Party. That's who they He's gonna he's going to be able to speak to the to the young dudes, that's yeah. Jamie Harrison. He is going to launch a podcast called at Our Table. I don't even want to listen to this now. At our Table it's an interview show that he has been recording from his home in South Carolina, as well as from the Road, where he frequently spends time with the parties Once and Future Stars, and he sat for an interview with David Weigel just before he had an interview lined up with Kentucky Governor Andy Basheer. Okay, he's already recorded a couple of episodes, because you want to have some in the can as they say, you want to have some ready to go when you launch, and so he's got a couple of them all racked up, ready to go. Oh. The first episodes will include such luminaries as Tim Walls Man. Oh, that's gonna be some podcast gold right there. Not sure how long these episodes are going to run, because that's one of the things about these long form podcasts. And when I say long form, I mean like Roganesque three hours, Sean Ryan he just did one, or he does them and his are like three to four hours. He just did one with Governor Gavin Newsome. It did not go well because here's the thing. When you sit for a long period of time beyond sound bites, your arguments have to stand up because as you have the conversations with somebody about a particular issue, if you do not have well formulated arguments or thoughts on a topic. It gets laid bare, it gets exposed over the time, and politicians are terrible at being able to maintain sort of the dance that they have to dance when they're doing just sound bites. You know, they can last five or ten minutes, but you keep them going for an hour with no commercials, two hours no commercials, it gets tougher. I don't know what kind of format Jamie is doing, but man, I'm looking forward to the full what hour two, three, four five with Tim Walls or Governor Wes Moore of Maryland, or James Clyburn from South Carolina, or Hunter Biden, that's one of the guests. I actually probably will watch that one because I'm just curious to know what Hunter Biden says. All right, if you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, And you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why, Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and it's a website, and it combines news from around the world one place, so you can compare coverage and verify information. You can check it out at check dot ground, dot news slash pete. I put the link in the podcast description too. 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Where did the what was the germ of the ideas? What he asked, and Harrison says he's been thinking about doing it for a while. When I was DNC chair, I had this whole idea about a channel on YouTube called DTV Oh Spicy. I would anchor a podcast, and then we would have a number of other shows with Democrat elected officials and activists. The only thing we ended up doing was my DNC podcast called Welcome to the Party. Like, that's terrible. You're going to have a show with Democrat elected officials and activists. How does that not get turned into campaign ads against you guys, because you know, Republican oppo researchers are just going to sit there and watch it. Because there's the left can never go too far, and so you bring these people on, you get them comfortable, they start talking, and they're gonna say some crazy stuff. Anyway, very quickly, Harrison says, listen to this. He says, our folks said that we don't have the bandwidth to do that, so we abandoned the effort. But as we saw from the twenty twenty four elections, more and more people are getting their news from social media channels. This was something I knew that we needed, but we weren't able to do so. They so, the pooh bahs of the Democrat Party, they wouldn't let Jamie be Jamie. They would just they would not allow him to become an influencer. So they they he says at one point in this interview, that they put restrict plates on him or something like they did to Kamala Harris. Oh yeah, he says that there's he says, there's this hypersensitivity not to mess up in the Democrat Party. I saw this at the DNC sometimes, I would submit that's probably also the case over at the Republican Party as well. Nobody wants to mess up. Okay, he says, but you know he talks about Joe Biden. They didn't want to Joe Biden going out there and making his gaffs and such. Yeah, that was the reason. It was his gaffs. The guy was a gaff machine his entire career. It's not just the gafs. It was his mental decline anyway, he says. But Donald Trump gafs every time he opens his mouth, but he keeps going. It shows that he's real. The part that many of us loved about Joe Biden is that he's real. Joe's real too. Joe's reel too. That's the thing. Joe was a real jerk. Joe was always a jerk. You guys tried to make him into something that he wasn't, which was not a jerk. Okay, he says. But we democrats I love this. This the views that the people in both parties have of themselves versus the other party. They all say the same thing. They're like, oh, we're like herding cats. You know, we can't be governed. We're all over the place. We attack each other. Look at the other guy, the other team, the other party. They all fall in line. They're all in lockstep. Both parties say the same thing. And here's Harrison saying, we Democrats put ourselves in straight jackets and we sanitize every bleeping thing that comes out of our mouths. So what does come of that? So what does come out comes out without any soul. Republicans understand the power of emotion. It could be fear or it could be joy, but it's emotion and they use it. Oh all right, So here's something to keep in mind if Democrats want to win you got to do the more cursing, right, more cursing, more rural outreach, right, and apparently more podcasts and more emotion because when I think Democrats, I think lack of emotion. Right. Oh yeah, Democrats never never appeal to emotion. They need more. According to Harrison, he was asked, is there anybody you blame in the Kamala Harris campaign for her not doing more podcasts? And he said, we had. He says, I don't know who made that ultimate decision, but you know, for the first two weeks when she wasn't doing them, everybody was asking why isn't Kamala doing the interviews. Prior to that, she was knocking interviews out of the box, which, if I'm assuming this is a baseball metaphor, which I think would be true. She was knocking them out of the box. Barely they were, but they were getting out of the box. That would be the batter's box, right. She was knocking them out of the box, which would otherwise be known as a bunt or I guess it could be you know, a pop fly, It could be a ground out, a double play, whatever I think you meant to say. Out of the park, you're knocking them out of the park. Right, that's a home run, which we all know she was not doing, which is why they didn't want her doing the podcast. See here's the problem. This is the problem that Harrison's gonna have. You can't do podcasts or radio shows for that matter, and just gaslight people all the time. You can't. You can't just lie. The audience sniffs it out. And if maybe this is what your audience wants to hear, maybe they want to be gaslight at this point. But you're not going to be a Joe Rogan. You know, stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. 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They are your life told through the eyes of everyone around you and all who came before you, and they will tell others to come who you are. Visit creative video dot com. I think this is from Bob. I think yeah, Bob Wow. A new podcast Leaning Left already Sonny Beach. I don't know what Sunny Beach means, but uh sorry, I'm still trying to get I'm still learning this text line thing to try to bounce between the bounce between the messages from a nine to eight zero number. There are lots of left wing interview podcast al Harrison has demonstrated is his ability to direct DNC funding to himself. Yes, and here's a tweet at Pete Calender. It's funny that the left is choosing the guy that lost to Lindsey Graham to be there. Joe Rogan, Right, Yeah, I'm look, I don't It'll be fine for a smallish podcast. That's gonna be bigger than mine. But still it'll be fine. But it's not gonna be Joe Rogan. And that's the problem is it's like it's like, hey, Pete, we want you to post something on social media that goes viral. You don't. You can't control that stuff, right. Content is king or queen. I don't want to assign gender, but content is king. If you do good content, then people will find it. And if it's really good. You got a lot of people whatever. Joe Rogan built all of that empire over the course of years. So this idea that you're like, I'm gonna be the next Joe Rogan. Anybody who says that it's like giving yourself a nickname. You can't give yourself a nickname. You know, that's it just has to happen organically. I think. Let's see here he did. Dave Weigel did ask Jamie Harrison some of the highlights of the people that he's already spoken with, like Tim Walls and James Clyburn and Hunt Biden. So let me see this is from Hunter. He says, Well, I got a chance to get to know Hunter a lot of the last a lot over the last four years. I don't know if you remember, but back in the day when I was in the South Carolina Democrat Party chairman position, I had this little series called chair Chats. Oh my gosh, this guy these names are terrible. Chair chats where I would sit and talk to a chair in chaerchats. We talked about moving past caricatures, and in many ways, I think Hunter Biden has become a caricature in politics. A lot of people don't know how smart he is, don't know his background, don't know the stuff that he's worked on. They only know what either his allies or his enemies have put out there. And he's been defined by that. No, actually, I think it was defined. I think I think it was the whole laptop thing and all of the stuff that he put on the laptop, and then the book he wrote about it. I think that's really what defined him for a lot of people. He says, I thought it would be really interesting to pull back the curtain so that people got a chance to understand who he is. Okay, so it's a softball interview, right that You're not going to ask him anything about barisma, Right, You're not going to ask him these he's not going to ask him about these tough topics. So when did you start sleeping with your your dead brother's widow? Like, when did you do that start cheating on your wife with your dead brother's widow. You're going to ask him anything about that? Maybe maybe he does. I'm open to being proven wrong, but we shall see. Or well here, I guess because it's a podcast, I don't know if they've got video. So he goes on to say, uh, it's a really really interesting conversation. We had everything from laughter and joy to tears to anger to frustration. He's really selling this, man. I really want to I really want to watch this now. One thing that Hunter Biden said in this interview you may have seen this quote floating around, was that Democrats lost the election because we did not remain loyal to the leader of the party, which was his dad. That's the reason Democrats lost. No loyalty among you people. Okay, Harrison says, you'll hear some of my feedback about that, but I would say this for now, things may have been somewhat different had the loyalty that we saw Republicans have for Donald Trump. When Trump got convicted thirty four times, and you didn't hear a peep from the Republican Party. I would love to see a little more of that from Democrats. What did I just say? Right both parties. People in both parties view the other party as being more coordinated, more ruthless than they are. Like those other guys, they really know how to run a party. Like look at this loyalty for Donald Trump. They all got loyalty for Trump, which I would submit that not outing Hunter's dad as in cognitive decline like that shows a pretty high degree of loyalty, don't you think I do. What else would you attribute that to? He says, Democrats are very quick man to take our knives out and go after our folks at the first sign of any problem. Once again, Republicans say the same thing about themselves. They think Democrats close ranks and never let anybody go. They never stab anybody in the back. He says, I don't think that's always in the best interest of the party. I heard this a lot on the campaign trail. That lack of loyalty, I think is part of the reason why you see some wavering within the base of our party because they don't feel as though the party will stand up for them. Well, what did they do that makes people stab them in the back? Like, are they protecting some invalid that's in the White House? Right? Once again, like all of this might sell in a country that didn't just go through four years of the Biden presidency seeing what we saw, watching people close ranks around the declining president, right, and then to be gaslit by you people telling us that what I saw with my own eyes was not what I was seeing with my own eyes. So maybe these lamentations about lack of loyalty might play better had we not just gone through the last four years. But I could be wrong. What do I know. I'm just a little old radio host. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.