Day 5 - Western NC Helene Update (10-01-2024--Hour2)

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[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I do have a Facebook group as well in the Facebook page

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been trying to push out information about relief efforts underway in Western North Carolina there as well

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: The last two days or so after I got internet service back. I've been just trying to

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Collect as much information and relay as much information as possible

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you never know who's gonna hear it when they're gonna hear it

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and so

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that's you know, that's

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my motivation here and what I'm trying to do

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Also, I'm indebted. I owe the people of Western North Carolina because I I

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: worked up there and

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: when

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The company I worked for the radio station I worked for they did a round of layoffs across the entire

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You know corporate footprint. I think they like fired. Sorry

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Dislocated I think is what the CEO called it employee dislocations like I was just pop that right back in place for you

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like 10% of their workforce or something and so when I was one of those that got dislocated

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Then I launched the podcast

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_01]: it was the people of Western North Carolina that

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: supported my effort to do that and

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Allowed me to pay my rent and to put food on the table

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Keep the lights on

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I owe them

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I do this too

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Bunkham County officials Bunkham County home of Asheville

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Also reported that there has been some restoration of power

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But 90,000 people in Bunkham County still remain without power. This is according to W. L. O. S.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_01]: television

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's some good news water system damage though is described as quote catastrophic

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Throughout the entire county the system is managed by

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: The city of Asheville I mentioned a little bit of this yesterday. There's a long history

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I mean long like decades long like you got to go back into

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: the archives of the state legislature

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: To understand

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: How the water system has been a political football well enough more like a tug-of-war like the rope in a tug-of-war

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The water system has been I mean it goes back decades the Sullivan acts

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Named after a state senator I believe from the area

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of people don't realize sort of the history, you know

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You go to Asheville and you see all of the buildings and they're all old and historic and oh look at this

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It's great that they were able to save all of these historic buildings

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You know unlike Charlotte for example where we you know tear everything down

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Well those those buildings survived

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Because

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_01]: The city went bankrupt in the Great Depression

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: They had

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: overextended themselves to such an extent they were building all sorts of public works projects and taken out all sorts of

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You know loans and everything they owed so much money the city went bankrupt and

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: The had to get had to get bailed out by the state government and I think they finally paid off their debt

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: In like the 80s and they did a ceremony in downtown where they you know burned the note kind of thing

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time there were all of these little water systems that had been built in the surrounding areas and

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Same thing happened with them during the depression. They all started going bankrupt and so the

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: The city came in and they hooked in and they took over and the state came in and bailed them out and all this and then for years the

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: City was trying to charge what's called differential water rates to all of the surrounding areas

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: In other words charge the outlying areas more money to get the water

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what the Sullivan acts did was they said you can't do that you have to charge the same amount

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: For the non Asheville area as you do for the Asheville area

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: customers and

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: The city of Asheville thought that like to the point where we're like when I got there in 2012

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: They were still fighting that fight. They were still trying to get differential water rates applied

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: There's this there's this thought among a lot of the

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: The elected leadership in Asheville

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and a lot of the base voters that put them in power that

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The reason they don't have money is because we haven't taken it from somebody else. That's not us and

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: They they would entertain ideas of

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Commuter taxes anybody that works in Asheville, which is I think four people

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I kid it's just well the joke in Asheville is you know, yes come to Asheville, but bring your own job

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's very it's there are a lot of service industry jobs there

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Tourism is the economic driver. You know what the biggest employers are in

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Asheville

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: government

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: school system

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Well now not the hospital mission hospitals big one

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But they got bought by that private company out of Tennessee health care the health care association whatever HCA

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Local government, you know police sheriff's officers and deputies and stuff

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: so that's the like there's not a lot of industry and

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: The the stuff that is there is all

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Tourism and service industry and there are a lot of people that go there

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And they think that they're going to be able to make a good living there and they don't because

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_01]: There's there just are not a lot of jobs. There used to be some

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Manufacturing facilities a lot of them closed down remember last year. There was the paper mill in Canton that finally closed

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Canton has been devastated over the last two years between the plant closing and

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Now this they used to be a Gerber baby foods

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Facility manufacturing facility there and

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_01]: when I got there in 2012 and this thing closed in the 80s, I want to say

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: But they were still talking about it

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And it been what 30 years and people still talked about the Gerber plant and how

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_01]: The city leadership ran them out of there the water costs was cited as one of the reasons

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: They they could find cheaper water

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Somewhere else and so they moved

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So water and access to the water and this was one of the reasons why Asheville City Limits hasn't been able to grow like others

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Is because all of the fights over their water system?

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You know I can Charlotte with the forced annexation involuntary annexation, right?

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why the city of Charlotte with the consolidated

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Utility department Water Department, right they were able to annex in because they would run you the lines

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And then once you run them they would forcibly annex you

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But Asheville was never allowed to do that and so they got they got stifled like in their ability to go and

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Forcibly annex a lot of their surrounding areas and the areas that they would do it to

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_01]: They would be very very selective in only taking

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: high tax value properties

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_01]: so

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean part of this is just the culmination of

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: mismanagement of their water system the massive failure and like I'm watching to see

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: These other systems that are that do exist in the area if they're coming online

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're getting water service restored more quickly than the Asheville system. I start to wonder is that an Asheville?

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: problem, you know

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Did they have they because when I was there

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: There were accusations about them using the water fund as a slush fund

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They were taken it's not even I mean they knew this the state legislature did a report on it and and found that they had over

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Decades had been taking money out of the water fund to pay for general operations to keep their taxes lower

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: While they did all these different things

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But meanwhile not funding

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Upgrades and improvements and maintenance on the water system and so

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: To the neighboring towns that are constantly threatened with increased water rates that rub them the wrong way

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And then there was an effort to create a regional water authority

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And the city of Asheville sued to prevent that from happening because they did not want to can they did not want to

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Give up control over the water system

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Because that meant they would give up control over their development

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[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_01]: An organization called hearts with hands. They are based in swan Inoa, North Carolina

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_01]: swan in the town of swan Inoa

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Virtually wiped off the map

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_01]: we talked to

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: One of the officials with the organization yesterday their warehouse was spared

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: amazingly enough

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: you can go to hearts with hands org and

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Make a donation, which is what she said they really

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Can use right now is the monetary donation because they they have all of their stuff

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they are they are a rapid response disaster relief organization

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And so they already had stuff ready to go now

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They're they're gonna need to replenish and obviously they are still taking those types of supplies

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But they have they've been doing this so long that they have all sorts of connections

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: with

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You know retailers and wholesalers and manufacturers and stuff and so they can get the supplies very very cheap

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: All they need is the funding and then they can make an order and then now their road was cleared

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I think yesterday and so they can get the trucks now in and out so they can make the purchase and

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Get more supplies than what you might be able to purchase and put on a truck and send up

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not so I'm not telling you which one to do you can do whatever one you want

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not advocating that you choose this organization, but if you are in search of one

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a good one to do you can also go to WBT.com

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: We've got all of the lists and contacts there

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: For a whole host of them and people want to know well, which one should I donate to whatever one you want?

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Which ever one you want if you want to do your own research on some that's fine, you know go to

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Was a charity navigator look them up and you know see what their program costs are versus administrative overhead

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think am vets was doing a run up there from Charlotte

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Salvation Army

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like a hundred percent

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Go to the the program

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Hearts with hands

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The stuff that they are always looking for

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: food non-perishable items cleaning supplies

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Stuff like bleach disinfectant

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Mops buckets rubber gloves plastic gloves sponges brooms trash cans or bags rather trash bags

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like for the kitchen, but also the large heavy-duty thick ones also

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Baby supplies like wipes and formula baby food, but no glass. Don't don't send glass

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Diapers all sizes

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Bedding and linens is a big one

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_01]: sleeping bags pillows blankets sheets towels washcloths

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Cots even

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: clothing

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: New

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_01]: underwear and socks

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_01]: People don't think about that stuff

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Paper supplies like paper plates bowls cups paper towels toilet paper

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: pre-wrapped flatware

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like utensils and plastic bags like the ziploc storage bags stuff like that pet supplies

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: dry food canned food

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_01]: also

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: hygiene kits

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like razors shaving cream the travel size shaving like travel sizes are great

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: To donate because it's you know, they're smaller so you can get them to more people

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: body wash

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Bars of soap

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Shampoo toothbrushes toothpaste mouthwash hand sanitizer hand soap deodorant feminine products

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Medical supplies like non-prescription drugs I mean think about if you've lost

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: your house and

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You're doing all the work and clean up and all this other stuff. You're probably exhausted and you're tired

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You've been fighting, you know floodwaters. You might need some a leave

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: right or some Tylenol

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Band-Aids medical tape ointments disinfectant sprays or wipes eye drops chapstick sunscreen bug spray

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You can go to their website hearts with hands org

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_01]: They have a whole list

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So even if you don't send anything to them if you're just looking to like what should I go and buy?

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Print out the list and you'll have all of this stuff that I've just run through and more

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[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Got another email from Susan who said Pete

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I am not as worried now about the election when I hear and see how our nation of civilians responds to an emergency

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Well government bodies can help a little there's nothing like Americans commitment to their neighbors and

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Unknown people far away. How can we lose?

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of people I learned this

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_01]: After Hurricane Katrina

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And I started calling it back then that was 2005

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I started calling it the libertarian prophecy

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That the government cannot help you in times of a catastrophe

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_01]: They can help after right some of your

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Your particularly I'm talking the federal government right

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The federal government with FEMA like people were making all of these demands

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That FEMA do something that FEMA go in and rescue people and FEMA doesn't do that its emergency management

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It's after

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You are the first line of defense we all are

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: After that it's your neighbors after that it's local

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Government local law enforcement fire rescue right EMTs your local hospital

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: it's your community and

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You know people I guess need to be reminded of this

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Even today after all of the examples that we keep seeing and this is one of the reasons why I think Florida's

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Emergency response has improved to such an extent is that after

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Storm after storm after storm and you keep having to face the same lesson over and over and over again

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You finally realize

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Like no one's coming to save us

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Where we got to save ourselves right now

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the issue right now solve this issue fix this issue and then go to the next one

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And I see people you know and they on social media and like oh my gosh

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: How will we rebuild on that like that's not even on my radar at this point?

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even think about that

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Because there's no there's no sense in wasting my time and energy

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Thinking about how to rebuild in another six months right now

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The focus is on getting people water so they don't die today

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, that's the immediate

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Need

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the issue. How do I get people off the side of a mountain when everything around them has washed away?

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: How do we dig people out of a home that's filled with mud?

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And they are literally trapped inside of a house that has slid down a mountain site

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: How do we save that person right?

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: How do we get supplies to an elderly couple that's living on the side of a mountain in a home that has been there for a

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_01]: 150 years and

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They're on a net one of them is on an oxygen tank or they need insulin. How do we get them supplies?

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_01]: How do we get them off the mountain?

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Those are the immediate

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Issues that need to be fixed and what we are seeing is what Alexis de Tocqueville talked about

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Was that America is great because Americans are good and

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_01]: People rise to the occasion and they see a problem. They organize and they fix it

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_01]: they they try to help and

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: de Tocqueville was talking about this was the French

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Guy who came to America in like the 1800s and you know toured around the country

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_01]: He talked about civic organizations and I've talked about some of his observations back then and how the civic organizations

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Would be created by you know local

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Communities and neighbors in order to fix some sort of an issue and you see

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Some of them still are in existence the Rotary Club for example

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: like these are organizations that have been around for a very long time and

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: They set themselves up for a purpose and they keep plugging away at that purpose and

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: They never solved the problem right, but they helped to mitigate it and

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That same sort of spirit is what you see

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: right now

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Got another message here and I'm gonna get into the doc worker strike thing in a second here

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But I got another message from or a different message rather from mark

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Who says I went to three grocery stores yesterday and Home Depot today?

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Grocery stores were picked clean in Gastonia

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So I asked people and the clerks why

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The frozen section the frozen foods and the fridge foods dumped by grocery stores

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Shoppers replenishing their frozen fridge foods

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Water and other food supplies being purchased by volunteers family and friends of people to help those up in the mountains

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Even Home Depot shoppers buying a lot of water and again, they were helpers

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to make it clear

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It's to the

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Aspects above as to why most shelves are emptied not anything to do with the dock workers strike yet

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Just thought that the listeners should be aware not to buy more than they need

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Far as as far as items helpers may need to transport to the mountains

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Right so and that is to be expected that you know the the closer you get to the devastation

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_01]: The the more those stores are going to be emptied and so the

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Grocery stores are you know dumping the frozen stuff that would have otherwise gone up to the mountains

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_01]: They're they're keeping them more local because they can't keep them

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't keep them frozen. You know what are you going to do with all this ice cream?

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and we learned this during the

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_01]: The the supply chain disruptions due to covet right where

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Our system our distribution and supply system

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Is a just-in-time system

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_01]: the logistical

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Miracle really that our nation

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Has in getting stuff to the shelves from the ships

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_01]: There's like very little waste you know because if you can if you can ensure that

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: The stuff gets unloaded at the docks gets on the truck arrives at the store and goes in your cart

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Goes home with you and you can do that in as short a time frame as possible

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And you can keep the stock rotated and only buying what you know is going to get purchased

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You can cut down on the waste. It really is an amazing

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: logistical achievement the downside is any hiccup in that

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: That chain

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Breaks it

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we saw and I suspect with these dock workers

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Going on strike

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to see that too. We're going to see it again

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And the people of western north carolina are going to suffer even more for it

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Blue collar guys hurting blue collar guys. It's a good. Yeah, it's a good look. It's a really good look

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So when I was a kid my grandpa died with alzheimer's and before he died my mom and my dad and all of us really helped take care of them as he got progressively worse

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: 40 years ago there were no treatments and not much support for caregivers and family

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Things are different today because of the work of so many people including the alzheimer's association of western north carolina

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great organization with awesome people. They've got huge hearts

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been a supporter for like 25 years. This cause means a lot to me

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I participate in the annual walk to and alzheimer's and I am leading a charlotte team this year

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's called pete's pack you can sign up and join the team and walk with me

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It's on october 19th at truest field in uptown sign up at alz.org

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Slash walk and then just look for my team pete's pack and there's also a link in the podcast description here

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Also, I'm going to be emceeing the gastonia walk on october 5th

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So make a team and join us or make a donation to help me hit my goal. I would really appreciate it

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: There are a bunch of other walks around the carolinas and you can go to alz.org for all of the dates and locations

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_01]: We are closer than ever to stopping alzheimer's

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you can help us get there, we would really appreciate it

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Will you come walk with me for a different future for families for more time for treatments?

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: This is why I walk

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me see. I got a couple of messages. This one is from

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm a twitter user named bound by duty. Oh, I'll follow you back

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I try to follow people back. I do

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a pete tweet. I finally heard from my brother in swannanoa

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no power. No phone. No gas. No transportation

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_01]: He and others spent the last three days clearing trees to the road that leads to the warehouse for hearts with hands

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I walked or he walked to uh hearts with hands

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Filling box and yeah, so he walked there

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Help to fill the boxes proud of the locals

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's that's what his brother did. Um

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_01]: There's another message here from david

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, who says uh, as usual, I'll listen to your podcast later

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a bit of an aviation nut here is a link to a website that tracks aircraft based in

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I don't click the links. Oh, he says I know you don't click links

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: okay, it's uh

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's 143 and I just counted 20 helicopters flying around western north carolina

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I'm sure are part of the relief effort on a normal day

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I doubt there would be more than one or two

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Several of the choppers seem to be privately owned

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like greg biffles bird. I saw penski had one up earlier today. Yeah, there were actually a couple of uh

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, he's got him add andy petrie former nascar guy joe gibbs up now hms hendrick

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: uh

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hendrick motorsports

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Right look for the helpers david is exactly right. I saw greg biffle had posted on twitter that uh

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_01]: That they were

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That he had gotten word from a whole bunch of his nascar buddies that they were going to be running

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: They're running relief drops and stuff because they can do that, you know, they just take a chopper up

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Part of the problem is landing the choppers

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: uh

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the terrain is so

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You know sloped and

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_01]: covered in trees

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned this yesterday the things that make the mountains so beautiful also make them so dangerous

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_01]: um, so trying to get you know, uh, I think

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Corey mills the congressman who's been doing these relief flights also

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He said they need like a hundred by 100

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Flat area a hundred foot by hundred foot

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I think or maybe a hundred yards, but they need a big area to be able to land a chopper

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And so if you can't land you just got to lower stuff or drop them out and um, so they can do that obviously but the planes

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But the planes cannot

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But they are running there are flights that are running

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: To the area they're they're driving trucks up

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And so the relief effort is mobilized it just it takes it takes time

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And so like I know there are a lot of people that are

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know wondering where fill in the blank is

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's why I said earlier like this stuff takes time you are the first line of defense

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I've heard somebody's heard a female screaming out in the hallway. I thought there was

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Something going on you never know you just don't ever know what a radio station. All right, Fred

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the program Fred

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, how's it going? All right

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it too early for a sharding point unless

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it too early for shodden Freud?

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah for the uh situation up there in the mountain while you want to make fun of people that are dying

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you want to do? No, no. All right. So what is it you want to do?

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, here. Well, if you let me say I don't know if I want to Fred

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It's fossil fuels that are going to save these same people that issue

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: The uh fossil fuels all for a lot of any idea fred fred. Who do you think lives in the mountains fred?

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think lives in the mountains?

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Bunch of lip charts. You're an idiot fred

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You are an absolute idiot

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you're an idiot fred if you think that's who lives in the mountains

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you have you ever lived in the met fred? Do you have you ever lived up there?

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I lived there for a while. I know how long's a while fred. How long is a while?

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: How long is a while as rush?

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: How long is a while fred?

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Six years this adult and what hit the infest and where in ashville proper out of there in ashville proper

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_01]: In ashville, that's not why I got out of there fred in ashville proper

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that where you lived in in the city of ashville?

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right up. Sorry. We're right outside the city of ashville. Yeah, we're about

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh look at what do you want my address? No, just give me the area

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Um right over there by uh the son of the soccer park. Yeah by the golf the disc golf place. That's ashville

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right. So you're talking one sit so sorry fred so you're identifying friends there now friends there now that are

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Fred

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I do too in their phones in their cars. Yeah, are they are are they leftists?

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Are they leftists fred? Are they leftists? Uh your friends up there? Are they leftist?

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he is he is he is a leftist. Okay, so I like him very much

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But we don't have so your conversations

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But I do know that fossil fuels are going to save them and get him out of there

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_00]: The who someone else feels electric helicopters. That's shodden Freud. I'm talking about so you so you're

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You're no better fred fred. You are no better. You're no better than david hog

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You're no better than the mom's demand action

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no fred fred

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm done with you and I would prefer that you never listen to my show again and never call me again

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I have no interest in talking to you ever again

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You're no better than david david hog or the mom's demand action who use tragedy

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: To advance a political agenda

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And you can do that on other shows

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You can do that on other stations. You could do that in facebook or twitter, but you can't do it on my show

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I have zero tolerance for people that use the deaths of other people

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Before they've even dug out the bodies and you're going to use it to try to bash your political opponents

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_01]: There'll be lots of time for that

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_01]: There'll be lots of time to talk about the you know the efforts and what happened and how did it happen and failures and why

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh things weren't done better

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But you're talking about an entire

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: 16 county region a third of the state and you think that everybody that lives up there in ashville

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Represents everybody that lives

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_01]: In a third of the state. You're an idiot

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: You know nothing

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You should have gotten outside the city limits while you were living there for a little bit maybe

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening

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