COVID czar's drug-fueled sex parties (09-25-2024--Hour1)
The Pete Kaliner ShowSeptember 25, 202400:27:5725.64 MB

COVID czar's drug-fueled sex parties (09-25-2024--Hour1)

This episode is presented by Create A Video – The man in charge of New York City's COVID response admitted in a secret video recording that he attended orgies and drug-fueled raves during the height of the pandemic.

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[00:00:29] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, no, I know it's lunch time, but I need to start with the drugs and the orgies.

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_00]: That would owe it, oh, I'm not talking about the governor's race again.

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about what was going on during COVID up in New York City.

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember the blaze host named Stephen Crowder, louder with Crowder?

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean he wasn't part of the story up there.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But he got some undercover video a couple of days ago of the guy who was in charge of

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_00]: New York City COVID response.

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: His name is Dr. Jay Varma Varma.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And you've seen this style of video, undercover video before where obviously somebody

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: is posing as a single lady or a single dude and then they go out on some dates with the

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_00]: target and are super interested in their really boring job.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And they get them to spill the beans on all sorts of stuff.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_00]: This was a tactic that was really perfected by James O'Keefe when he was at Project

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Veritas.

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Now doing his own thing with James O'Keefe media, or O'Keefe media group, OMG is what it's called.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, Stephen Crowder has some people.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who it was that was undercover.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It sounded like a female voice so I assume it was a woman.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Just as a heads up, if you are some sort of key player in a government or in a corporation

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: or something or a big time non-profit and you get an attractive person of well

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: whatever, the opposite sex or same sex, whatever.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Because James O'Keefe posed as a gay man in order to get somebody else undercover to admit

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_00]: a whole bunch of stuff that was not very good for their career.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And so they pose as single people looking for a hookup or looking for dates and stuff.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you've got somebody in your match profile list and at the date they're really, really interested

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: in what you have to say about your really boring job then chances are there's a video camera on you.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Just heads up on that.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm surprised nobody else has kind of figured this out yet.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So Dr. J. Varma, he ran New York City's COVID response,

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: imposing some of the most draconian pandemic restrictions in America and he is very proud of it.

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_00]: He's proud of his achievements.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_00]: According to David Straum, he is proud of bullying New Yorkers to comply or rules with his

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_00]: mandates and he is equally proud of breaking his own rules by hosting and attending drug-fueled sex parties.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I did not see in any of the CDC materials.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that was never part of what Mandy Cohen told us during our COVID lockdowns for some reason.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_00]: She was never advocating the drug-fueled sex parties.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I missed it, but I don't think I did because I watched every single

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: media briefing done by the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, maybe he was just kind of freelancing on that stuff.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, maybe he knew some of the science and data that nobody else knew around the country.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Carol Markowitz at the New York Post.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: She said the COVID years should be seen as a flex of power and not an attempt to keep the public safe.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_00]: What's so ever?

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a flex of power.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And I have to admit during the pandemic, I guess I chose not to see it that way because I mean you could

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: make these choices because I could make an argument that some of these people are honestly

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_00]: motivated by trying to save as many lives as possible.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But now, now, now, not so much, especially as more and more of the people

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_00]: that were supposed to be keeping us safe engaged in behavior that they claimed was killing people.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the story that this guy tells when he's on hidden camera is talking about

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: orgy's with 200 people packed into a room and he said it was a way to deal with the stress of

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_00]: ruining people's lives.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't have this getting any say that part.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_00]: He just said it was the way to deal with the stress of saving everybody's lives.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_00]: See, he had to go and break all of the masking rules in a bunch of people in a confined space,

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: probably not socially distancing during the the orgy.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just guessing on that because otherwise, I don't know how that would work.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because that's just a strip club.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_00]: If you got to keep a distance, I think, right? Isn't that just a, yeah.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Varma scoffs at people who don't want to have sex with the unvaccinated because everybody

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_00]: by now has immunity. Did you know? Yeah, in the in the video, he scoffs at people who do not want to

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: have sex with the unvaccinated. So think about who he's talking about there. These are people that

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: are so COVID afraid and this is like during the pandemic, I could see it happening and I talked

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: about it at the time, which was people that were going so far off in one direction or the other.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. There were people who just denied it was a thing at all. They just, it did not even exist.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a cold. It was nothing. It's all a lie. Right. And then you had the other end of it,

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_00]: which was we're all going to die. You know, don't breathe. Don't leave the house.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Wipe down your cardboard boxes, all of that stuff. And so the people who were in that direction,

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: that went so far off into that direction, there were people that would refuse. And I guess they

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: didn't get the invitations to these big parties in New York City, but they didn't want to

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: engage in any of the behaviors with people who, you know, if you had to show your vaccine card

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: to get in, I guess. I guess that was, it's like you had to know the secret knock and then

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_00]: you had to maybe show like the golden ticket or something to get you into the door

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: and then maybe a vaccine card. I could have to show that you were vaccinated.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But he scoffs it people now who have these views because everybody has immunity.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Either through the vaccines, he says or through natural exposure. In other words,

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: vaccine mandates were a scam when it came to most people and then absolute scam

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_00]: when it came to anybody who had already been infected and recovered from the virus. Natural

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_00]: My focus at the beginning of the pandemic was herd immunity. How do we get to herd immunity?

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And this was my argument also on the vaccine, which was you have that so many people that

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: have already gotten it. At that point I had not gotten COVID. I did get COVID after I got the vaccine

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: coincidentally. But the whole idea was to get as many people immunized as possible, whether they

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_00]: had COVID and survived it. And if you were in a group that had like a higher co-morbidity factor,

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: then the vaccines probably made sense for you as they did for me. I was in a higher risk

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: factor at the time. That's since then I've lost a bunch of weight so so now I just go around

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_00]: looking door knobs and stuff. I give it a COVID but at the time no I was probably a greater risk.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I was doing my podcast. I was working from home. I was getting like six months to the gallon

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: of gas. I never left. But Christy was still going to work and so whatever she may pick up,

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_00]: she was going to bring home. And in the early days didn't know what that meant and it could have

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_00]: been more virulence strain. But at some point enough people were going to get it and then

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: be immune because they already had it. That's science and I don't mean Fauci. That's science.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's where I wanted to get to herd immunity and it was treated like this is some

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: weird conspiracy theory. herd immunity, he's saying her dough. That's just nuts.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Wait a minute but that's what we've been operating on for all of this stuff for decades.

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[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So the New York City COVID's are caught on tape telling what he thought was a gullible

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: young lady on the date that he went to illegal orgies during COVID.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Leaving aside the morality of participating in the drug field sex parties and the obvious hypocrisy

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_00]: of Dr. Varma, it is striking David Stromethoddair.com says that any public health official would

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_00]: brag about participating in orgies given the diseases you can get one with think that any

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: name doctor would know better. Now Varma has done very well for himself unsurprisingly.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Again with the decenzying names here, I'm surprised it's not spelled with a pH.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like here's Dr. Farma telling you what to do during COVID and he does all of the opposite stuff.

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But he did begin his career at the CDC and then mayor Bill de Blasio hired him to run the

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: city's COVID response. He crafted the vaccine mandate policies and ensured that schools remained

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: closed as long as possible. And then after he was done with the orgies and locking everybody down,

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: he went on to become a professor because of course at Cornell Medical School he's now

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_00]: the executive vice president and chief medical officer of SIGA Technologies, which just so happens

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: to create antivirals for monkeypox, which may or may not have been running wild during the

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_00]: orgies during COVID. I don't know. That is the virus that the World Health Organization just

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_00]: declared a public health emergency of international concern or a PHE, IC, or a FIIC, I guess.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And that positions SIGA Technologies in quite the advantageous position to make a boatload of money

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: with their antivirals. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Tristan Justice over at the Federalist, while thousands of sick patients died alone

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: under forced hospital isolation measures, New York City's COVID ZAR attended sex parties and drug

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: field raids. Dr. Jay Varma, who led the city's coronavirus response as a senior advisor to the

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_00]: mayor, admitted to the pandemic promiscuity, and secretly recorded conversations published by

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_00]: conservative podcasts or Stephen Crowder. He says on tape quote, it's so funny because I did

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_00]: all of this like deviant sexual stuff while I was on TV. I did not see any of this footage on TV,

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: but I was not following the New York City COVID response very closely. I think he's just

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: talking about how by day he's on TV, talking with everybody about how they need to stay apart.

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And then at night he heads down to the Orgy Room and to the Raves and violates all of his own rules.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So what's he talking about there? He's like, okay I was going to say something but I shouldn't

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: say that phrase, but he was excited let's say. He was excited about living this dual life.

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[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_00]: the former COVID ZAR up there. Sorry don't say ZAR not allowed to know but he's a ZAR anymore.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a that's an archaic term that has now been retired. So he was in charge of COVID at the time

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_00]: with near unilateral power but not a ZAR. Okay, he is caught on video talking about how while

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_00]: he was locking everybody else down. He was gallevanting in the evenings going to sex parties

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and raves taken a bunch of drugs and such. So Gary says these people who are caught on undercover

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_00]: videos are proud of it of what that's why they're talking about it. They are part of the the

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_00]: class. They are the credentialed so they are above the working class plebs. I mean is it plebs or

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: plebs? I think it's pleb. It's I mean it spelled PLEB S or PLEB but I've heard people pronounce

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: it both ways. It doesn't matter. I know Gary says, I mean obviously the other people at these

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_00]: parties know this guy's lifestyle or know the guy's lifestyle. They knew about this, right?

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: We just aren't supposed to know they're just caught telling the truth to the non-credentialed

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_00]: class that are in the know. Yeah and that's part of what you know gets them all sorry. Sorry,

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I said I wasn't going to and there I say yeah. I can't help okay but that's all right so that's

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: part of the allure, right? That's part of the thing. It's like the excitement of who am I going to get caught

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_00]: like that's what turns these people okay sorry. I'm not meaning to do that it's just everything in

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: this kind of line of discussion seems to align with that other with the orgy talk and I can't

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_00]: help it okay. So back to the federalist.com, Tristan Justice's piece called Wild COVID patients died

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: alone. Lockdowners had sex parties. Varma said in a recorded conversation that he and his wife

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: rented a hotel room to host their own secret sex party with ecstasy who I believe is a rapper.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: We know I'm kidding it's the drug. We had to be kind of sneaky about it because hotels didn't want

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_00]: people gathering there. Adding his profile as the city's locked down her in chief called for

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_00]: extra discretion quote it was fun, right? I'm doing something bad. Look at me. Who were so bad?

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry. I see I say that and like I just know that those words came out of their mouths like that

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_00]: you know you just know it. Varma said that in another recorded conversation he attended a sex

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_00]: party in August of 2020. So right at the peak, right at the clock, right at the top of COVID.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: He said he went to a party with 10 to 12 people which would have violated New York City's rules

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_00]: when gatherings were routinely kept at 10 people. Now look we don't know there may have been a secret

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_00]: exemption there for COVID-zars sex parties. We don't know that Varma also talked about attending

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: crowded underground dance parties in June of 2021. Quote, we were all rolling which is a

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: that's what the kids say when they're taking a drug that they're rolling. I think he said they were on

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah he says they were taking molly which is not a person it's also a drug. I forget which one

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_00]: but it's like a rave drug and so you say you're going rolling. You're rolling on some hallucinogen

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_00]: something like that. So that's what he says everybody was high. But I was looking around

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and wondering if anybody sees me they're gonna be mad because this was not COVID-friendly.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, so think about the paranoia that I must have been experiencing. Man I hope it ruined one event

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_00]: for him. Just one just that's all I can hope. Like one event that you were rolling you got so

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_00]: drugged up and you were so paranoid about getting found out. But honestly like if somebody did recognize

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[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_00]: National Reviews, Michael Brendan D'Aurty says well in a piece called we let the

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: libertyne tyrants get away with it. He says he's got a quote here from the COVID sorry,

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_00]: not as are. The COVID not as are Jay Varma from one of the hidden conversations

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_00]: caught on camera quote the only way I could do this job for the city was if I had some

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_00]: way to blow off steam every now and again. He says the Atlantic, the publication, the Atlantic,

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: decided to frame these remarks and their hypocrisy as a mistake. That's all with regard to empathy.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_00]: See that said he just he lacked empathy. It's not that he was doing one thing and telling

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_00]: everybody something else. I don't know. He's not that he thought the rules only applied to us.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Plebs or plebs. Perhaps there would be a less by the way that's why I knew like I got a

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_00]: cousin who went to a West Point and he went he that so I knew the term plea by always called it

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: plebs and then I one time came across. I think it was a video game and they were it's like a

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Roman video game or something and they were calling everybody plebs. So I don't know anyway.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: The Atlantic framed it as his mistake was basically a lack of empathy. Maybe there would be less

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: anger though at public health officials if they just admitted that they you know sometimes broke

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: or bent their own rules. You know like my good friend Ray. Governor Ray Cooper, Roy Cooper.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean this good friend's call him Ray. My Kelly Clinton did when she came to town but anyway

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah Governor Cooper when he did the march around the governor's mansion he walked around the block

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_00]: during the BLM mostly peaceful but sometimes fiery protests. You know he took his mask off and he's

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: fist bumping it or a fist uh uh thrusting up into the air. In clear violation of the public

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_00]: gathering rules that he had been locking everybody down under right. Never has it been so clear

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_00]: that progressive consolidation of NGOs non-governmental institutions media, medical boards,

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_00]: academia. I translates directly into governmental penalties for non-progressive ways of life.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You want to protest George Floyd's death? Okay all the rules about public gatherings do not apply

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: to you. You want to bury your dead and gather the required number of people to pray at the funeral.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Well screw you. You can't do that. Only certain this why I said COVID was the smartest

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_00]: virus ever. COVID knows it's sentient. It knew why you were gathering and if you are gathering

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: you know was progressively permissible then you then the spirit of COVID would just pass by your door right

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_00]: but if you were not gathering for some sort of progressive approved event well then you had to be

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: smited. I don't make the rules. I confess he says I don't want to relate to any of this at all.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It only makes me mourn for America a country populated by freemen and women who would not

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: suffer such tyrants and all of us who talk about freedom and claim to care about public policy

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and the character of the country we have to face up to the fact that we let this happen here.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: We allowed our highest moral aspirations to protect the vulnerable to be manipulated by

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: freaks like Jay Varma into an indefinite suspension of our human rights, the indefinite post-pulment

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: of or disfigurement rather of normal human acts of love and care. It was the self-governing people

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_00]: who complied, the libertine tyrants who rule us they didn't comply with their own rules.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_00]: They did whatever they wanted and we all let them get away with it. This is one of the reasons why

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: a year ago or so when it became clear that Trump was going to be the nominee again

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and Joe Biden at that time was on the path to be the Democrat nominee that

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I lamented the fact that we would not have any further conversation at a national level as part of

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_00]: a presidential race about the COVID response because neither one of those two guys gain any benefit

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: from acknowledging that we got stuff wrong. They're not going to say it, they're not going to do

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_00]: it, they don't want to participate in any kind of a conversation especially during a campaign season

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_00]: where they might have to acknowledge, yeah we didn't get that part right. That to me is one of

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_00]: the biggest problems now because Kamala Harris, she's not going to be asked about COVID stuff

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_00]: because she was just the vice president, you know that was all Joe Biden. She gets the distance

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_00]: herself from that but not too far because she's just like Joe, she's the same but different,

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: you know? She's the same but different that's their campaign slogan well that's my campaign slogan.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I offered it to them they I don't think they've taken it but it's a good one I thought. All right that

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