Comey's sea shell spotting sparks outrage (05-16-2025--Hour2)

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Right we were the last exit before the beach, and so like we were at the beach pretty regularly as kids, and I have probably seen without counting just a rough guess, probably millions of shells on beaches in my life. I have never found a cool shell formation that spelled numbers. The formation was never in the form of a number, let alone four of them, all put together, put together in a way that conveys a contemporary political message at that those turtles are getting too small. See. It started off with everybody like, you gotta turn your lights off so the turtles can get up the beach and you know, have the babies and such and then get back to the water and whatever. And now they know how to count. Okay, either that or some you know, leftist resistance type of activist happened coincidentally to be strolling along the very beach that former FBI director Jim Comey strolls along and left a message. Now, maybe they knew that Jim Comy would see it. Maybe they saw Jim Comy on his long walks on the beach. I've read his tender profile, and that's what he likes. I don't know that. Actually I don't even know if he has a tender profile. I don't think he probably doesn't. Well, I don't know, actually he might not that there's anything wrong with that I'm just saying, maybe somebody saw him because he has a beach house. I was on this morning every Friday, I joined CaCO Day for his for a chit chat on Fridays up in Raleigh in Greensboro, and one of his listeners told us that Jim Comey has a beach house at Emerald Isle, so he very well could be in. He could have found this resistance message on a North Carolina beach, right, maybe maybe somebody at the beach recognized him and they're like, hey, that guy, Jim Colemy, that's Jim Comy. We know it's him because he's like twenty feet tall and he's walking along the beach and he's like staring off with this you know, self satisfied look, and that's definitely him. He's dressed like a Patriot Front guy and I'm gonna go put a message to him so when he walks by, he's gonna see that he is not alone. And so they arranged the shells for him to spy, which he did spy and he took a picture of it, and being former law enforcement, saw nothing wrong with the message, and so he sent it out on his Instagram as all the kids do, and he said, cool shell formation on my beach walk And the formation was eight six four seven eight six four seven. Okay, now full disclosure. I did not know what this meant. I originally did not know what this meant eighty six forty seven. I actually thought the eight was an s. I was like six six six four seven. I didn't what I meant. But when somebody I just did a quick Google search of eight six four seven and then found out, Oh, this is what leftists say. It's on their posters. It's a protest whatever. It's not like a really well known kind of a it's not a chant. It's it's just like a code. It's like it's like you know the videos where you see, like where the women who are in abusive relationships and they do that thing with the hands that they fold their fingers over as a as a code signal to let you know that they're being abused. You know, It's like that. It's like, I'm with you, I hate Trump too, So this way they can they can convey their their hatred of Donald Trump to others who also hate Donald Trump. And then they then they're like, oh, I feel so safe now because other people are with me, get help people seriously, Like, so he sends this out. Outrage ensues because what this code means, eighty six forty seven is also eighty six forty five. That's where this started. The term eighty six means to eliminate, to get rid of. And when I heard when I when someone said, oh, it's eighty six forty seven, like there's a space between the numbers, then I knew, Oh, I understand what this is about because I used to work in restaurants, and eighty six is what you say, is what you call out, like you have a special, like, oh, tonight's special is the Patagonian toothfish, and everybody orders it, and so then you run out of it, and then the kitchen tells the servers eighty six the toothfish. Sorry, you may know it as Chilean sea bass, but it is the Patagonian toothfish, the same fish. It just got just got a rebrand. So because nobody wants to eat a toothfish, right, that just sounds gross at anyway, at anyway, So you would call it eighty six the toothfish, or you know, you're gonna eighty six mushrooms, You're gonna whatever you want to cut something off the menu, you want to cut something, you know, out of the order, whatever you eighty six it Now, I don't know where that number comes from. I don't know why we call it that. I've seen people say it had to do with mobsters in Las Vegas, which again, as the former director of the FBI, he would have no knowledge of if this is true or the roots of it. But the what I have seen referred to as you go eight miles out and six feet deep. That's where you bury your bodies. So that's where you eliminate. The proof eighty six, eight miles out of town, six feet deep. So the term eighty six means to eliminate, to get rid of. Now, some people are saying that he's calling for assassination. I don't know if it goes that far, but to you know, a warped leftist resistance mind, it very well might. And you know, I guess things might be a little different if we had a president, the forty seventh president. You know, if somebody had actually made various attempts on his life over the past say year, then maybe this would take on a different kind of tone or something. But but you know that totally didn't happen. So yeah, I mean, this is just it's just a little maybe it's a little lukewarm political rhetoric, you know, eighty six forty seven. So he sends out this Instagram photo, outrage ensues, and then he takes it down. So he deletes it, and here's what he says. I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw on the seashore. He didn't say that part. He just said, I saw today on a beach walk, which I assumed were a political message. Oh, so you knew it was political. You called it a cool shell formation on the beach walk, knowing it was a political message. How is this guy smart enough to be the head of the FBI? Seriously, Like, why would you admit that you knew it was a political message? Eighty six forty seven? If you don't know what the eighty six means and you know that it's some sort of political message, why would you send that out not knowing what you're sending out. I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence. It never occurred to me, but I opposed violence of any kind, So I took the post down. I think he wrote it. I think he arranged the shells like that. I think he sent the picture, he then took it down, and then you know what, he posted that he's super excited about his new book. Yeah, he's got a new book, and he public He posted on Twitter a review from Publishers Weekly of his new fiction book FDR Drive, a crime Novel. I think this was a marketing campaign. I think this was part of a marketing thing that he did. I don't know who cleared it or if it was even something that was discussed. I think he did it that I could be wrong. I'm just saying I think he did it. I don't think you just happened upon this thing these shells, because there aren't. It's not big, Okay, these aren't big shells. It's pretty. It's a really small it's probably like maybe twelve inches long if that, maybe four inches high five inches high. If that, it does not look I mean you could see footprints that are that are like the same size as the as the the shell formation. Also from the u X user Jarvis Best. He says this is simply a marketing stunt for James call Me's new book entitled Kill the President, which is just the phrase kill the president written over and over for three hundred fifty pages. That's yeah, and now call me may get some visits from law enforcement, and I am supportive of that. All right. If you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too. And you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and it's a website and it combines news from around the world in one place so you can compare coverage and verify information. You can check it out at check dot ground, dot news slash pete. 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Right, that helps to promote your new book, Jan says, how can you doubt he came across those shells completely by accident. I'm old enough to remember when former President Clinton came across shells at Normandy walking on the beach at sunset, and he stopped to form a cross in reverence to the sacrifices made by others. Sometimes shells and rocks are just in the right place at the right time. Yeah, I'm sure that wasn't a photo op either. So the Department of Homeland Security and Secret Service are now investigating that social media post by James Comy in a now deleted post on Instagram, right, he said he came across a shell formation on a beach that formed eighty six forty seven The post was swiftly condemned by administration officials, Republican lawmakers, as well as sorry I lost my place here Trump allies, there we go, who said it blatantly targeted Donald Trump. According to the Merriam Webster Dictionary, eighty six can informally meet to get rid of. No, yes, that is what it informally means. Now fire dot org, which is a free speech organization. They said. Former FBI Director James Comey's now deleted eighty six forty seven social media post is political speech protected by the First Amendment. It neither constitutes a true threat nor merits federal investigation. There's a Supreme Court precedent to prove it. Okay, and that's fine. I still think they should go talk to him. Just go talk to him, see what he says. Maybe he lies about something. Pull an old Mike flann on him, right, I'm totally fine with that. This from Real Clear Politics. The Secret Service may try to force former FBI Director James call Me to answer pointed questions into that post if he refuses to comply with their request for what's known as a protective intelligence interview. The Secret Service leading the investigation into the Post can apply for a subpoena through an assistant US attorney. It's that prosecutor who will determine whether the former FBI director is legally required to answer their questions, and the full US attorney in the office ultimately will decide whether to bring charges against him for threatening the president. Now he can refuse, might say he wants a lawyer to represent him. He can do that, or you know, I'm gonna fully cooperate, full transparency and all of that. We'll see how he chooses to play it. But I do think he deserves a visit just to see what he says. These are the tactics that his own FBI used against Donald Trump, and this is where we are right. Just hours after Comy, who was fired by Trump in twenty seventeen, took the post down, he claimed he was unaware the message has violent connotations. Homeland Security Department Secretary Christy Nohman announced that her agency and the Secret Service are investigating this threat and will respond appropriately. FBI Director Cash Patel and the d and I Tulcy Gabbard also weighed in, arguing that the FBI is ready to assist the Secret Service with all necessary support. Gabbard stressed that the administration and the Secret Service are taking the incident very seriously. But this is a secret Service deal, right, This is on them. We'll see, We'll see how it plays out. I do think he deserves a visit. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville is your connection. Whether you're celebrating an anniversary, a honeymoon, maybe you want to plan a memorable proposal, or get family and friends together for a big ol' reunion, Cabins of Ashville has the ideal spot for you where you can reconnect with your loved ones and the things that truly matter. 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Sure don't you think what's the Komi thing going on right now? This would be a golden opportunity to put a PISA warrant on him. Oh, check all of his electronic devices, all everything, and just you know, go dig deep and find out how how uh how. Crazy this guy really is, because he's got to be crazy for putting that on the beach and then taking a picture of it. I got that well. I like I like the idea. I like the idea of using these weapons against the people who first wielded them, right to take the weapon from them and turn the weapon on them and see how they like it. I don't know any other way to get them to stop using these weapons of gov CO. And so I like it. Yeah. Well, just you know, can't be too safe, just just to be sure he could be compromised. He might have, you know, had some meetings at a hotel or something in Russia. We don't know. It's me and you have done that. We'd have Virginia farm boys flying around us like fireflies. Really well, I don't know. Well, if it was about a Democrat, because you know that is democrat privilege. So if we had said something like this about Joe Biden, then yeah, we might have gotten a couple visits. Yeah, probably. So yeah, yeah, man, you too, have a great weekend. I appreciate the call. Along those lines a message from Russ who says pretty coincidental that Komy stumbled upon this cool shell formation within the same few days that the online left resistance like the Crassensteins are posting photos of pool balls numbers at target and home depot, et cetera in the eight six, four to seven pattern. Yeah, so apparently the resistance left has been sending out this message with various pictures, you know, of the numbers all lined up and putting it all on social media and stuff. So where to believe that Jim Comey didn't see any of these numbers. But he acknowledged in the follow up post that hey, I took that picture down. I knew it was a political message, but I didn't know about any kind of violent overtones. And this is how the left always operates, and they've been doing it for a long time. They did it. By the way, there's a do you remember one of the videos that Gretchen Whitmer put out. I think it may have been the one where she was doing the fake communion to the staffer, which was very creepy. But she's done these videos from the governor's office and in the background you can see there's a little rock that's on her coffee table, like a painted rock, and it says eighty six forty five. So I do not believe that Jim Comey had no idea that this was about getting rid of Donald Trump. And if if y'all hadn't been so stupid with the Sarah Palin map where they put bullseye targets on congressional districts that they were looking to win, that the Republicans were looking to flip Democrat to Republican. And one of those districts happened to be Gabby Gifford's district. And then some maniac crazy person who believed that Grammar was like somehow a United Nations plot to take over the world and infect our brains or something. I mean, like, the guy was literally insane, and he then shows up at some events she's holding and opens fire, murders some people, you know, wounds her grievously. And then they said Sarah Palin was responsible for that because she posted this map on Twitter of districts that they wanted to flip. If you guys hadn't have been that stupid, I would not be making this argument right now. And look, okay, you can probably tell I don't even really believe the argument. Do I think that Jim Comy is advocating the murder of the president? No? I do not. But do I think he should get a visit? Do I think he maybe should get treated to some of his own medicine? Yes? I do, because I don't know any other way to make you guys on the left stop doing the things that you have been doing. Let me get over to snake. Hello, snake, welcome. A snake. I mean, yeah, oh whoa, whoa, yeah, okay, yeah, that's not. I've been called snake before, but not in a pleasant way. Or yes, yes, exactly what it. Was, yeah, or lower than the belly whatever. You know what's funny because I was sitting here while I was on hold, and and you know, I like what you just recently said, and it kind of changed you know what I was going to say, because my concern is as a small libertarian, I you know, I would like to be able to say, you know, eighty six Nancy Pelosi and have that be interpreted appropriately, which is to say, let's beat her in the next election. You know what I mean? Because eighty six is you know, if you've been around the restaurant business, it means we're out of rabbi's you know. It's it doesn't mean go kill somebody unless you happen to be a mafia wise guy. Right. Well, but that's the thing is there is there are multiple interpretations for the use of this term. It essentially means to get rid of, to eliminate, you're out of it. There's no more of it. Right, It's used in different ways. And if the resistance left has now been using this code much like four twenty right, four to twenty in progress meant smoking weed, right, and it became this code word, well, the same same thing. You know, you could be saying. So you have this like this facade of you know, respectability, that position of well, no, it just means we're out of it. We'd want to get rid of it, you know, through legal means. You know, remember Peter Struck Lisa Paige, the FBI couple that were having the affair, and when she was like, oh, we can't, we got to stop him, and Peter Struck responded like, don't worry, he won't win. We won't let him. We'll stop him. And when asked by Congress, he said, oh, I meant at the ballot box, right. So they have this this fallback excuse to say, oh, I didn't mean it like that, knowing full well that that is how it's being used. Yeah, and again, I you know, Comey's a dirt bag, and I literally think he ought to be in jail for a good number of reasons. But I don't think he's I'm like you, like what you just said. He's not trying to kill the president. He's not telling anybody to try to kill the president. And I don't think Sarah Palin was trying to kill anybody. And so all this foolishness is what really I think costs the liberals and the socialists their election. And so now are we gonna like get into this, you know what I mean, where we're going to say, Okay, that turns out we do think Sarah Palin was trying to whack somebody. Well, no, no, that's what I mean, Like, I don't, but I don't know any other way to fight back against those types of tactics except to show them how bad the tactics are when used against them. And that's what sort of turned me while I was listening, is that, you know what, if you want to give tell me himself a whack on the on the hand, then fine, but just as long as you don't do it to me. If I write that on the Beach Democrat, I don't want to kill anybody. Just for the record, look. Yeah, all all I am advocating is a simple visit from some secret service folks or something, some law enforcement agents to chat with him and then try to catch him in a lie and then go after him for lying or obstruction in an investigation that would see that to me, would be the goal, because that was his goal when he sent his guys to go interview General Mike Flynn, and he has said that publicly. That's why they sent him. They sent those agents in there during the early days of the Trump administration because it was kind of chaotic, there were new people coming in and they were like, well, why he said, why don't we Why don't we send him in now to try to get him? And it'll put us from Ale on my face, Pete, he's a bad actor. I agree, you know. And it pleased me when OJ went up for whatever it was he went up for after you know, So I get it. Yeah, just as long as we don't apply that to all the citizens, then I'm good with it. I got you, Snake. I appreciate the call you. I know. Look, I does he have the right to post it, absolutely, but we should all be clear eyed about what it is that is occurring. Right he is doing this. It's like this, it's a wink and a nod. It's it is one step removed from the Louis, what was it? No, Luigi MENGIONI fan fest right Like, I'm not saying you should have done it, but that's what this is. It's like giving a permission structure to people to take it further than you would. I didn't say that they should do that. I was just saying, like, you know, we'll beat them at the pallette box. That's what I meant, you know. Yeah, it's a form of gaslighting, all right. So spring is here a time of renewal and celebrations. 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Mail orders are accepted to get all the details that create a video dot Com. Back to the phones, we shall go. Jack, Welcome to the program. Hello Jack, thank you, joy your show, Thanks for having me here, sir, welcome. So I was listening to this about James Comy and the very idea that he didn't know what eighty six meant. Is that makes him either the dumbest person in the world or the worst FBI director in the history of FBI director. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa Jack, It could be both. Yeah, good, But I real quick, I wanted to tell you a lawfair story that happened to somebody that I know at the end of the Biden administration. So I live here in Charlotte, but I have a rich cousin cousin that lives down in Naples, and I go down a couple of times a year to visit him, and the first thing we do every time is we go to this grocery store called Seed to Table and it's the Disney World of grocery store. I mean, you just you've never seen anything like it. It's two stories, there's about five different places you can eat in there, and the guy grows all the vegetables and fruits on his own farms organically brings them in and they have wagou and everything. But the first time we went, my cousin said, you're gonna love it, and we're both Trump supporters, and he goes and does a bonus. He hates Joe Biden, and I said, well, you know, what are you talking about? And he goes, way did he get there? And you'll see so like in the bathroom, the urinals have urinal cakes that say F Joe Biden. Outside all the dumpsters say F jb Red White. I mean just all over the store. He had this stuff. And so everybody that goes there is a Trump supporter, basically, and it is so over the top you just had to kind of laugh when you go. Well, in the waning weeks of the Biden administration, when everybody thought Kamala Harris is going to win. This guy is sitting at his house in Naples after work one day, lives in a nice neighborhood. About twenty FBI agents in full swat gear raid his house and arrest him and take him off to jail and no charges forever and nounce know nothing. And then when Trump came into all of this, they just quietly disappeared. The charges whatever they were, disappeared. But it was just a blatant example of law fair. Well, you know, you embarrassed Joe Biden. Look what's going to happen to you? Type of thing. Yeah, And I think it's time that some of the Democrats felt that same feeling that a lot of Republicans have had. To go through. Like these Catholic people that were peacefully praying in front of abortion clinics and got harassed by the FBI and the DOJ. It's a it's a real Oh. They launched an undercover They launched undercover operations against quote unquote traditional Catholic or or rag trads or whatever they were called, like going after Catholic churches, like embedding people in the churches. And when these stories come out and people on the right, who are the targets of these ops point this stuff out and say this thing occurred, this is wrong, and they left doesn't say anything. It becomes very clear then that they are okay with these kinds of operations being run. And if that's the status, if that's what you're okay with doing, then there isn't any protection because if you guys get back into power, you're going to continue doing it because you've just acknowledged that you're okay with it happening, and so I don't know any other way to stop it. Yeah, I agree. If you're interested, look up Seed to Table Arrest and read this story about what a what a terrible it was like when they went and arrested Roger Stone that time. The amount of personnel and you know, dressed like a swat team. Yep, it's one one one guy at home. He's a local businessman that everybody knows, never in any trouble. It was just an intimidation, right. Right, And it was a message to others don't do what he does or or they'll meet the same fate. Yep, yeah, exactly, Yeah, Jack, I pre shade the call man. Thanks for the story, all right, thank yeah. Seed to Table arrest. I will check it out. Andy, Welcome to the show. Hello, Andy, heyde, how are you doing. Hey, I'm good. What's up? Good? So, what do you think the chances are that these shells were just arranged that way by chance? Uh? Well, I mean I guess there's probably a chance that the incoming tides may have washed up these shells in perfect alignment to spell out only these four numbers in the perfect way and color coordination that the shells were arranged, like, yeah, maybe that's it. It could Oh you know what I think you, Andy, I think it's it's Mother Nature. Mother Nature sending us a signal. What if it said eighty six seven and then I said, sent us about Donald Trump with correct spelling and then he had his address. Because there's a lot of people that think that all of creation was created by chance, so that would be way harder to believe than this. Yeah, I think it's a cry for help from from Gaya Earth. It's it's it's Mother Nature telling us that we have to impeach Donald Trump. I think that I think you may have hit it. That's it. Yeah, there's no other there's no other rational explanation. Logically speaking, of course, I feel like that's the that's the only way that this could have happened. If James told me was this bold as a private citizen? What kind of thing was he doing when he was in charge? Right? Yeah, I think we know some of the stuff as a talk host. Are you intimidated about saying anything like that, like specifics, because I feel like a lot of talk show hosts stop talking about prompts for action because they were intimidated and they felt like we do live in a country like China or Russia where things happen and people will go away. Now, if anybody in radio goes away, it's usually because they got fired. That's just No. I've never had any I've never felt any pressure to speak about or not speak about anything really ever in my career. So no, no, my disagreements about the twenty twenty election were arrived at by me. So yeah, Andy, I appreciate the call. I do think he's onto something there, though with mother Nature it's a cry for help. I'm surprised Jim Colemy couldn't put those pieces together, although it did take me about an hour. So and actually it was Andy's idea, so that might be it all right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.