Chris Krok Fills In For Pete (08-01-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Talking about the Olympics, I don't know if you've seen this yet. It's on my Twitter feed if you'd like to watch it.

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_01]: At Chris Krok Show, that's at Chris Krok Show, C-H-R-I-S-K-R-O-K on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook.

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But I have, you can see the boxing match, it lasted 46 seconds. She called it because he hit her in the face at least two times so hard, her trainer thinks she may have broken her nose.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder if some people out there are thinking, well, she's going to handle it. You know there's going to be somebody like that.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, if you do, then by all means, call in. This is your time to call. Chime in right now. Lines wide open for you at 704-570-1110.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that it's not that. I think that she can't withstand, I don't think any woman could withstand a hit like that.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Unless it's some massive, you know, hairy Russian ogre woman who's taken steroids.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You're like the ones in the Olympics that cheat and get caught, which is most of the Russian Olympics, right?

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Olympians. Here's Olga. My name is Olga. I'm from Siberia.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know how any man could do that to a woman and not feel shame on him.

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's not a woman. He's got an XY chromosome. That's a man, not a woman.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So a man fought a woman on the Olympics, and he won because he cheated by getting in there.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't know Algiers or Algeria – Algiers is in Algeria. It's a city there, but on the coast.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, in Africa, North African continent, I didn't know they would support a transgender guy.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You would think surrounded by mostly Islamic, including terrorist-friendly countries like the Islamic Republic of Mauritania.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You would think that this guy would be hanged or killed if he's trans.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So I was speculating, pure speculation, with Producer John that, you know, maybe they said,

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_01]: just be a trans man on – a trans woman, and we'll put you in there.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, no, people will kill me. Don't worry. We'll protect you. You go in there, you win.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You're like cheating. I don't know, but this is just vile what he did to that woman.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And if that's your daughter crushing her dreams on there with all of her hard work,

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: hey, if you win fair and square, that's great, but this is not winning fair and square.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: This is cheating and no humility and no shame, and you go out there and you cheat, and you're proud of it.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You feel like you have some accomplishment.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he tried to comfort her. It's like, you know, a man punched a woman in the face,

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and nobody got outraged by it supposedly, you know what I mean?

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_01]: What would you do if this was your daughter?

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to tell you what I would do. I mean, she would decide.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't – you know, my son, whether he's going to drop out or not out of this one troop of Boy Scouts,

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_01]: he's going to be, and he already is an Eagle Scout, but it was so hardcore,

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: and I let him decide, my wife and I did, because it's like, you need to decide, not us.

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's our input, but you decide.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And so if my daughter wanted to go against a guy, that's her decision.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But I would encourage her not to participate, to share with her teammates in a gentle, nice, kind way.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to be competing with them.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, like that one – remember that one middle school team in, I think, Virginia or something like that,

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: or wherever that was, West Virginia? I don't know where it was.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And they just – they went up to the shot put or whatever it was, disc throw or whatever it was,

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and they took a – you know, they honorably went up to the competition stand there,

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and they kind of took a quick bow or a knee, and then they left.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: They walked off.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, not being rude, they just competed without competing.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's what women need to do.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And the day that no women will fight against or compete with a transgender guy is the day that it will stop

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: because there will be no competition, and that literally is what I think has to happen.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now, my questions for you are, how should female athletes, including our younger daughters,

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: since they're not adults, react to hearing they're going to be competing with a man or a teenage boy?

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And how do you think this can be stopped?

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And for me, it's don't compete with them.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And then how do you feel about a man being able to knock a woman out in the Olympics on the world stage

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: as we see her dreams stolen from her?

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: With no shame.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And how does it make you feel to watch that punch and its aftermath after her dreams are stolen from her?

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It's sad.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It's devastating.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It's frustrating, and it's angering.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's go to – our number, by the way, is 704-570-1110, 704-570-1110.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go to Tim.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Tim, you are on News Talk 1110 and 993.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Chris in for Pete.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Hello.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_03]: How are you?

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, sir.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Hi.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I just want to comment.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm old school.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just turning 59.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I can remember back in the day, Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs' tennis match.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't physical, but it was a tennis match, and she won.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_03]: That's great.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they want to do archery or something.

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_03]: But I feel when it comes to physical stuff, whether it's basketball or football or boxing or whatever it is, you want to have a transgender – I mean, nowadays, there's nothing you can do.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to do whatever they want, however they want, and the higher up, they're going to appease them because they get to go and they do all the – you know, all the red tape, and they get special treatment.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_03]: But I guess maybe the way to do it is to – you know, when they test them, okay, you test however it's done.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not up on that.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But you're a female, and you're a male.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Humans are the only species that feel there's something else.

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Chromosomes.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They do a chromosome test at World Boxing.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's either XX or XY.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Correct.

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And if you want to have an other, well, then maybe we need to make a special other so that all the others –

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Because when I go to the doctor's office and sell out a form, it says gender, male, female, other.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Or if – yes.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Or if you're a man and you say you're a woman, you can fight in the men's league.

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You can do what – what's-his-name did, the swimmer in Penn State, and you can swim as a man where he was, I think, 300th in the country.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And, no, you can't go against women.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You're a man, so you go against men.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And sorry, dude, I'm not sorry, but, you know, you're 300th.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what your rank is.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_03]: You compete against others like you.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's what the Olympics is fair.

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, back in the day, the Russians –

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not anymore, though, yeah.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that, oh, the Russian women look like men, but they were women.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But they have –

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as long as they're not doping.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And, yeah, as long as they're not doping in an authoritarian government like Russia, they can, you know, just go find the biggest mass of people and say,

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_01]: you are coming here and you're going to train.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to do that to them.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That's – you know, and they get honored and stuff.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah, whereas here it's if you want to do it, you earn it, you get it.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I agree with you 110 percent.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that, you know, if they don't want to do it other than – then you fight against your man, so you're going to fight against men.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there needs to be some rules.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Say I'm old school.

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_03]: My mom said this or this.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're not old school.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just true.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not old-fashioned.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That's just a fact.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Truth is not old.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I have a brain, and you seem like you have a brain.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Speak for yourself.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Speak for yourself.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I might not.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I've been told it's there.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of think half of it's gone, but –

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, me too.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, listen, I –

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_03]: You get hit in the head by a female and knock some sense into me.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_03]: But I appreciate your time.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much, and I hope someone else will be here.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate you.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Tim.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to switch into the discussion on the 9-11 victims and the murderers that took

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: place on 9-11 and how the mastermind and his two top lieutenants are not going to get the death penalty all this time.

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's horrifying to hear that.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that we need to – it's hard, at least for me, as I can't speak for you, it's hard to remember just how horrible that day and event was because it's been so long.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But real quick, you know, if you want to chime in on that boxer thing too, you can chime in on that at 704-570-1110.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if it's my daughter, I would encourage her – I wouldn't tell her what to do, but I would encourage her to not compete.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And as soon as every woman or young lady refuses to compete when a transgender person is on the other team, this is going to keep happening.

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And when you see the pain on that boxer's face, that woman, that beautiful woman from Italy, as it's over and she's walking away, there's a still.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I just retweeted a moment ago on my Twitter feed at Chris Crox, so C-H-R-I-S-K-R, okay?

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's painful.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And she literally said, yes, I'm going to go fight this man even though I don't want to because I'm going to try my best.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's another photo I tweeted.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: This guy is massive.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You look at his – there's a picture of him kind of saluting or something like that.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got massive man muscles and he's a man.

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And he clearly looks like a man.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no question you would look at this guy and think he's transgender and he's not.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just disgusting to see a man beat up on a woman and for that to be so supposedly okay, it's not.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I would encourage my daughter not to participate.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And as hard as that is, it's just terrible what we're seeing.

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: People need to stand up to it.

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I think the problem too for some, and I'm not putting this on you.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just telling you for me, is how many of us, including myself at least, need to really remember just how devastating September 11th was?

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's easy to say we lost almost 3,000 people in one day.

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They were murdered.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But to remember that great victory for radical Islamist terrorism that the Gazans went nuts celebrating in the streets.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: We remember that video.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a tremendous victory for bin Laden and the terrorists and people that hate America.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: People like Kamala's closest pastor.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He's BFFs with the guy.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He said, oh, America, what did you do?

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_01]: He blamed us and he said it was our fault that we were struck.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It's six days after it happened at a memorial for the victims, including one man whose partner was killed on one of the flights.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, do you remember the people that jumped out of the whatever it was, 111th floor or whatever the floor was, 95th floor, and seeing their clothes blowing upward as they were going down to die because it was better than what they were facing?

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember the stories of the people who died and never came back?

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a friend who is in the federal government.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a Secret Service dude, and he was stationed right in that area because he was like in the field doing some – I think he was doing counterterrorism stuff.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You do different shifts with – sometimes you protect.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you do treasury stuff.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And he ran to help, and he called his wife from the base of the tower.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is when we had landlines.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, don't worry, honey.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: She didn't pick it up.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm fine.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm in the World Trade Center thing.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting people out.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Everything's fine.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he was helping people out, and then he got out, and then it collapsed, and he was within like half a block or less.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was running, and the smoke and everything debris was chasing after him.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And as it clouded over, he saw an alleyway that was open still.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He ran in the alleyway where he could see, and a woman opened the door at the back of it, and then he got in there, and then a cloud of smoke enveloped everybody.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: He was going to dive under a car, and when he came back a little later, the car was crushed from debris.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's just – and he was gone all day.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He got home like 12 hours later, and the bottom of his shoes were melted.

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_01]: The first 8 inches or 10 inches or so of his pants were burned away.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And he showed up at the door because he had to get a ferry.

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You know how that was?

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They couldn't get across.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He showed up at his Brooklyn home with his beautiful wife, and she thought he was dead all day.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's just one story of a hero.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: All day she thought he was dead.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And the people who suffered in this story that you see from the Daily Mail, 9-11 mastermind KSM, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and two other terrorists awaiting trial on Guantanamo Bay strike plea deals.

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: They were spared the death penalty under a deal with prosecutors.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_01]: The case of 24 years long has been concluded.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Many felt the death penalty was the only appropriate punishment for the terrorists in these heinous acts.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: They've all been at what Rush used to call Club Gitmo, which is apparently really a lot – very much nicer.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: One of the victim's family members said that actually Gitmo is like a club compared to our Supermax here, which is where they should be in these past 24 years.

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And here's some of the quotations out of the story.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: In exchange for the removal of the death penalty as a possible punishment, these three accused have agreed to plead guilty to all the charges, including the murder of 2,976 people.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, how could you do this and kill this many people and do this much of a terrorist, evil, wicked, sick, satanic act and not get the death penalty?

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And I want to tell you something that's really important.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: People don't fully know this sometimes.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: The death penalty is not for recidivism, to discourage people from committing crimes.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: The death penalty is – it does not stop people from doing it.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It does not lower the statistics on murder, rape, or any of that stuff.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: What the death penalty is there for is for justice, not for revenge.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It is never for revenge.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It is for justice.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And justice is what the people of the country or in the state of North Carolina decide based on their – what they want to do.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They pass laws.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And the government is given that sword, if you will, to execute somebody that has been judged that this is their punishment, not out of revenge and not out of recidivism.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's to punish you for what you have done.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And it is the appropriate punishment in certain circumstances.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And in this case, it was certainly warranted.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so the three top terrorists that did 9-11, KSM, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind, and two others with long, hard-to-pronounce Islamic names, his lieutenants that helped him plan it and such, are all in Gitmo.

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And they all agreed to plead guilty in exchange to get life.

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Cowards.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Real cowards.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought they wanted to go meet their 69 versions in heaven and that they could die a martyr.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Turns out they're just little cowards.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think the death penalty is exactly what's warranted.

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And the death penalty is not to make people not do it again.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The death penalty is not to exact revenge.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: The death penalty is justice in certain cases that are adjudicated that way.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is one of them.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't – what are they going to get off?

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You think they're going to get off?

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You think they wouldn't get convicted?

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's been 24 years.

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I would take the risk of a trial and put them to death.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, out of 2,976 people, you can't get one of them and get them put to death over it?

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's disgusting and it's enraging.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think what people really have to do is remember how bad it was.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's easy to say that and go, of course it was.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember what it felt like.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And justice isn't about feeling.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I know that.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But to understand the gravity of this and how big of a deal this is, you have to remember how it felt like to appreciate how just terrible this was.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And I know it – again, I might be sounding vapid or a simpleton, but uh-uh.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And some of the families spoke.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And my question for you at 704-570-1110, what is your reaction to the terrorist mastermind's plea deal?

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And how much sway should the victim's family have in the decision for the death penalty versus life in prison?

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Because some victims were against the death penalty.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_01]: They thought, oh, he can rot in there and it would be worse for him.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And here's the thing, and I'm being very serious about this.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We should never allow the victim's family, or in this case almost 3,000 victims' family members, to determine what the justice is.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It is not justice when the victim's family gets to decide the punishment.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not justice.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Justice is a prescribed option if qualified to execute, not people.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying you could execute justice.

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It might mean jail for a day.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It might mean jail for life.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It might mean putting someone to death.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But they don't decide.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I have no problem with them having a statement, an impact statement, and for jurors to take into consideration what they say or letters that they get to them.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But they do not decide, and they never should.

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I will give you an example.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: In the Cowboys NFL, one of their players, Josh Brent was his name.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: He got drunk.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He was a drunk driver multiple times before that.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: He was on a suspended license.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_01]: He went 100 and some odd miles per hour on a road, and he flipped his car, and he killed his friend who never was on the actual team.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He was on a practice squad.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And his friend's mom flew in from St. Louis to Dallas to plea for this guy.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, don't put him in jail.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't put him in jail.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I know he's hurting.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what you think.

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_01]: This man's going to kill somebody on a road.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be my family.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't even live in Dallas, for example.

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you don't get to decide.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for registering with us and sharing your thoughts respectfully, very respectfully.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But no, get out of here.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'll say that to the victim's family.

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The thank you, okay, you know, take a note.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm coming across disrespectful.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's thank you very much.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate it.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll take that into consideration.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But you don't get to decide.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Justice and the people that are put in there to do that decide, along with the jurors, if they are jurors.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_01]: In this case, it wasn't.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_01]: No jury did it go to.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And the other families are just disgusted.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You've got the only female police officer killed.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Her husband said it felt like he was kicked in the you-know-whats, and he said the B-word.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's many people like that in here.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you let justice do it, then that's it.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is not justice.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of people are attacking Biden, and I would.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He's the commander-in-chief.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You go in there, and you tell him, you're going to let me know when that comes up.

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You get a word of it.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And you go in there, and you say, listen to me.

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Get on the phone.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_01]: The president wants to talk to you.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You are going to do nothing but get that guy a dirt nap.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You put this man to death, and you do what you have to do.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't have enough, you tell me.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, we have a 9-11 survivor on the phone who has called in.

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, you are on the Pete Callender Show.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Chris Kroft filling in on News Talk 1110 and 993 WBT.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for calling.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Tell me what you're thinking.

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, Chris.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Good afternoon.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Good afternoon, sir.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I am – you know, I was not in the building.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I was outside of the South Tower when it came down.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I had – it's a long story, but I was late for a meeting in the World Financial Center and sort of dodged a lot that morning.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_05]: But I was caught up in the collapse of the South Tower.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And so it's a – you know, this Khalid Sheikh Mohammed topic, obviously, is something that's very close to my heart.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to purport that I know any of the details behind this.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_05]: But my thought yesterday when I heard this news and, you know, I'm in contact with families and the other lawsuits that are going on with the Saudi-raigning government.

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_05]: But the – this is what I have to say.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_05]: There is just – on a broader level, there's a sense that the Biden administration and those that are associated with it that work in these sort of international matters and anti-terrorism and all of the big, ugly things in the world,

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_05]: this is just the ultimate kind of continuation of a pattern that I see that they just take sides.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean you could say it's the same thing with the riots in 2020 where it's just like this tendency –

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The St. George Floyd, blessed be his name, riots.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's this tendency of the left, let's say, to –

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_05]: A piece.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Take the wrong side on things when it comes to real justice matters and real terrible things.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yet somehow, you know, on the right, we're not all these rah-rah America.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, everything's not like that.

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_05]: But what is that from your perspective where you wouldn't expect something like this outside of an administration on the left?

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And it just – to me, it just seems like this very opaque situation.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_05]: None of us know the details.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Why would they do this?

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_05]: But it just does not seem like –

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they don't want to peeve off people that they – for whatever reason, and it's appeasement.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the same reason why Iran was given back the ability to pump oil at full power, a full spigot on.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_01]: They went from 300,000 barrels a day to 3 million barrels a day.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_01]: The last day Trump was in office, it was 300,000, and then shortly thereafter, Biden made it 3 million.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_01]: They are now providing 3 percent of the world's oil, and their main job is to kill every Jew and wipe Israel off the map.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And they funded and trained – with Joe Biden's given oil money, they funded and trained Hamas to kill and slaughter 1,200 Jews, absolutely their 9-11.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And to kidnap 280, rape them, behead them at the village – in the villages in the kibbutzim, and then to take them back and sexually torture and rape women.

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_01]: The UN even confirmed it, along with even men that have come out.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's appeasement.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the same strategy.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's getting Iran a nuclear weapon.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly right.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Israel is the perfect example of this, and you just wonder how –

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the same thing with Putin.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And there is right and wrong, and there are – when it comes to terrorism, let's limit 9-11 and Khalil Sheikh Mohammed and the Hamas situation.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_05]: This is terrorism.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_05]: These are innocent civilians being slaughtered.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_05]: There is no two sides to that, those kinds of things.

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Unless you're Kamala's pastor, and that's why she's the vice president.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: No, she blamed it on us.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_01]: He blamed it on us.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, was that – what was Obama's guy?

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_01]: America's –

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, that's Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Na, na, na.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: G-E-D, America.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Her pastor is even worse.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_01]: He got up in front in the six days after 9-11 at a ceremony.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: One man who's gay, his partner was killed on the flight over Pennsylvania.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It was at 93.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was in the crowd.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Nancy Pelosi, Feinstein, and Box were in the crowd.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And he got up there, and he blamed America.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, America, what have you done?

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: He attacked it.

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And some of the top Democrats walked out.

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_01]: The gay man said he was crying.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Pelosi wrote an editorial destroying him the next day.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's Kamala's pastor who she talked to the day she was told she'd be the president nominee.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_01]: She called him in.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He prayed with her.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean they're super tight.

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And she ain't ditching them.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_01]: She ain't ditching them.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: What would a woman like that do to these terrorists?

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Behold.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, absolutely.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And going back to the Khalid Sheikh Mohammed situation, who exactly are we appeasing on that one?

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_05]: It's so mysterious because there's some dark – whoever the other side is to that.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Pakistan or Saudi Arabia.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_05]: But I mean who – but how in the world do we have people that – and then we know Biden is just rubber-stamping this because he's out to lunch and just –

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think Trump would have allowed this?

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely not.

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He already came out today and said, I will ban male men fighting – being in sports against women if I'm president.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, go ahead and close your thought out.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's amazing to talk to you, my friend.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's kind of a – it's not a real focused thought other than it's not unexpected that coming from a left administration like this one, progressive, that even to the extent something that –

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_05]: How many of us – how many Americans would say, let's let Khalid Sheikh Mohammed off the hook for 9-11?

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_05]: It's something that once united us as a country.

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's how bad it is right now is that half the country is like, well, I guess – I guess it's okay.

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Biden did it.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Joe Biden's and Kamala's wide-open borders that are suspected terrorists, at least with most of us.

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Two Jordanian illegals who rented a box truck and tried to breach Quantico Base, which is – it's a top – the DIA, Defense Intelligence Agency, FBI Academy, FBI Laboratory.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Several major U.S. Marine Corps commands, including the unit that flies Marine One Presidential Helicopter.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And they lied and said they were Amazon delivery.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And when the military folks – the people guarding the base said, you're lying, then they started to ram the gate and try to get in.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And their names are Hassan Youssef Khandan, 32, and Mohammed Khair Dabous, 28.

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And they got a nice little slap on the wrist.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Biden Justice Department didn't hold them.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And guess what?

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_01]: ICE did not deport them.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Good job, Kamala.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You're doing a great job.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, a little bit better.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Good job, guys.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: They are now free on bond, $10,000 to $15,000 bond.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: They're free to kill or flee or who knows what.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And the other day we had three Palestinian terrorists who were caught trying to get in illegally at Kamala and Joe's wide open border.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And you've got two – I think you've got one to two million gotaways in the four years.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So one to two million people were almost – we're getting close to the Charlotte metropolitan area, population of 2.5 million.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And if we keep this up, of people who we don't know who they are, they don't want to turn themselves in, which means they're a rapist, a murderer, a terrorist, a drug kingpin, a drug mule moving drugs in.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But they do not want to be caught or detected.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They sneak.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's because they – the border patrols cannot get them because there's too many illegals they're processing.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Kamala wants them wiping buttocks of little babies and stamping paperwork to let people in that are even terrorists.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_01]: They let them in.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And they go, oh, we let them in.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_01]: We've got to go find them.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's go first to Jamie.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Jamie, you are on News Talk 1110 and 993.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Chris in for Pete.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Hi, Chris.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_02]: How are you?

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Good, sir.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_02]: How are you?

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the life in prison is perfect for those terrorists as long as they serve their time where they committed a crime.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Rikers Island's general population.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Would you be okay with the death penalty, though?

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're not against that, are you?

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Death penalty is fine, but they'll sit in jail 10 years before they even put the –

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But see how afraid they are?

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: They were so afraid they pleaded guilty because they didn't want to get death.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And that tells you everything.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And I just –

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_02]: We can get all – we can get justice.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_02]: We can get vengeance.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And they can meet their virgins a lot sooner if you put them in Rikers Island.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They are not – no.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Nope.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to get a dirt nap.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to get – what was his name?

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Dahlmerd.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Jeffrey Dahlmer.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to get Dahlmer shanked in the – or beaten to death in the prison.

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to keep them in protective custody because of it, I swear.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But if it happened, I would have no problem with that.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Oops.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't even say oops.

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for your call, sir.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: John.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: John, you are on Newstalk 1110 and 993 WBT.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, with regard to KSM and the others with the plea deal, I want to preface and start

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_04]: off by saying I think they deserve the death penalty.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And I've never voted Democrat in my life.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_04]: But the sad fact is this would have never gone to trial and resulted in a guilty verdict

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_04]: for these guys.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_04]: The government couldn't and wouldn't take this to trial because the enhanced interrogation

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_04]: that these guys –

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_01]: 183 times.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_01]: They waterboarded them 183 times.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_04]: So if we really want to lay this at somebody's feet, it's not Biden.

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_04]: It's John Yoo and it's Alberto Gonzalez from the Bush administration who signed off on

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_04]: these enhanced interrogation techniques.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_04]: We caught the tiger by the tail.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And every other guy that's in Guantanamo right now, it's the same problem.

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So do we really have the moral high ground after subjecting these guys to that, which

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_04]: is against our principles as a society, to the death penalty?

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a hard argument to make.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_04]: But the fact of the matter is the Department of Justice could never go to trial with this

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_04]: information coming out in discovery.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Not only would it be embarrassing on a world stage and bring up all the torture and the

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_04]: moral vapidness of the American society again and laying the blame of that at our feet, but

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_04]: there's no way that you could get a guilty verdict.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I can tell you this.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I can tell you that you don't know that, and you said the moral high ground –

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: One second.

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Any evidence?

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_04]: One second, sir.

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Sir, relax.

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I listened to you.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's my turn.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You said moral high ground.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Moral high ground is not a legal term.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what you feel is your moral high ground.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_01]: My morals are not your morals, perhaps, and vice versa.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't know – I don't know if you're a lawyer and if you are a JAG or a judge,

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_01]: a military judge, but even if you were, two different judges could disagree.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So I love the fact that we water boredom.

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I've never had a problem with that.

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I supported A.G. Gonzalez and John Yu doing that.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_01]: John Yu is incredible.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I love that guy, especially on Fox when he comes on with Mark Levin.

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But we obviously disagree, and that's fine, brother.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate your call.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think we should have done it, and I don't have a problem with the moral high ground with that.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That's just me.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_00]: That'll do it for this episode.

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