ChiComs must be happy: Charlotte approves data center moratorium | Hour 2

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Anyway, So council members say the plan will give them time to learn more about the facilities and consider how to approach future data. Data center developments within the confines of state law. Those distardly Republicans up in Raleigh. Once again, the moratorium will be in place for five months and could be extended. So here's the problem for the socialists that are opposed to the data centers and the and AI, which, by the way, that's really what this is about. This isn't about data centers per se. It's about AI. And you can hear it in the raucous applause from the predominantly COMMI congregation that had assembled for the city council meeting last night. Now, I'm not saying. Everybody that's opposed to the data centers are all commies. I'm just saying all the Commis are opposed to the data centers, and that's because the data centers will allow us to win the AI race over China. Okay, that's why China has been funding the quote unquote grassroots opposition campaigns all across the fruited plane against data centers. We went over this. A couple of weeks ago. Right, the pipeline of funding is pretty direct. The propaganda is obvious. It is through state media channels from China as well as to a lesser extent, but still there, Russia through Russia today, the or now it's called rt news, and even Iran. Right, our enemies do not want us to be the leader in AI. I have said many times, if you are the leader in the development of the new technology, you write the rules. Okay, that's how that works. And so do you want the Commis writing the rules for us on AI. I'm sure they would never write separate rules for everybody else to follow but them. I'm sure Commis would never do such a thing. Okay. That is never mentioned. The role of foreign adversarial influence in this debate is never mentioned in the debate. Nobody brought up anything about the anti Data Center campaign funding in the Charlotte public hearing or in any of the committee meetings. In the discussion by council members, none of this comes up. But that is a really important part of the puzzle, okay. Just like the Commis from the Soviet Union were the ones who were backing the anti nuclear campaigns back in the day because they did not want us to beat them in the nuclear race. It's pretty standard operating procedure for communists, okay, and for any adversary. They will use whatever pressure points they can in order to gain the advantage, and that's what they're doing on the data center debate now. As I went over last week when they had the public hearing, if the purpose of the moratorium is to erect a framework whereby counsel can approve data center projects, and they have a framework for doing so, then I'm not necessarily opposed to putting any permit approvals on hold while you develop that framework. However, if the purpose this is to ban through the framework, any new data center from being built, well now I'm your enemy, okay, because the data centers are part of our future and you may not like AI, but that does not matter. Okay. Once again, I am a resident of realvill as Rush would say, although he was the mayor still is mayor emeritus. I'm merely a resident. I recognize like this technology does not stop getting developed because some people are afraid of it, and that has always been the case. There are always people that are afraid of the new technology. This is where I say my standard disclaimer for the future. When AI takes over everything, I love AI and I welcome you as our overlords. Okay, with that out of the way, I can look I have concerns about what AI is going to be able to do and how it could be on least and all of that. I have concerns about that too, But I also recognize that the Chinese are are racing to get ahead of us. They are not ahead of us right now, but they're racing to get ahead of us on AI because they want to control it, and they want to use AI to control their people and to control the world, because that is the revolutionary ideology behind Marxism. It has to spread, That's the whole point. Because Marxism is a parasitic ideology. It doesn't actually create anything except poverty, misery, death, destruction, despair, right, that's what it creates. It doesn't create anything of God, anything of beauty. It just doesn't do that. Much like the Islamist ideology. It just moves into areas and it just feasts on the unprotected store of value. You. That's what it does. So if you don't, you don't have to agree with this. But if you don't see the world this way, fine, that doesn't matter to me. That's how I see it. Okay, you're free to disagree. Now. The Charlotte City Council holds its vote last night. Now, remember I said there was a public hearing on this, and we played clips from the public hearing from a week ago. So the activist class, they had their say okay, they got involved. They had their press conference, right, they had their chantings, they had their demonstrations. They got up there and they spoke. They yelled at council, they railed against AI, they railed against data centers. They did all of this last week, and yet last night they possessed so little self control that they booed. I mean, this was a unanimous vote for the moratorium, but they booed at the mere mention that there may be any benefit to AI. This is the Heckler's veto. This is common leftist debate strategy, which is like, you come in, you make a rational, logical argument in defense of something, and. Their response is shut up. That's why they call you names. You're a fascist, you're nazi, homophobe, racist, xenophobe, you hate the elderly, you hate the children, you hate the poor, like, that's why they make all of those accusations. So now you're arguing against these slurs rather than the merits of the actual argument or the issue. Right, it's just shut up, eary. It's the heckler's veto. They don't want to even allow you to speak anything that goes against what they believe. And that's what they did last night. And one guy who disrupted the meeting wasn't even kicked out. And if you don't kick people out for being disruptive like this guy was, you're going to have more and more people do it. Virtually all of the council members praised the quote community engagement. Thank you for being a part of the conversation. We've heard you and all this. Remember, like the crowd that was there, they are all left of center. You're not going to find conservatives in that crowd chanting against data centers. Okay, they weren't there. So the council being comprised of, you know, all but one of the members at the DAIS were Democrats or are democrats. This is their base. Now they cannot cross this base. This is why I don't really have high hopes for what this framework is going to look like when it comes out of staff development. That's just that's just my guess. You know, stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life and our stories are told through images and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video started in nineteen ninety seven and Minhill, North Carolina. It was the first company to provide this valuable service, converting images, photos and videos into high quality produced slide shows, videos and albums. The trusted, talented and dedicated team at Creative Video will go over all of the details with you to create a perfect project. 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So dimple Ashmira, councilwoman, said, this gives the city council and stage we have time to do their homework. The question before us today it is not whether data centers are good or bad. The question is whether Charlotte has the right policy framework in place to manage them responsibly. So today I. Believe the answer is that we need to do our homework and we need to make sure we put guardrails and safeguards in place to protect our taxpayers, to protect our residents, and to protect our health. She says this is not a partisan issue. It's not red or blue, which it really wouldn't be because like the city's just totally blue. But also it is kind of red or blue because the blue people are the ones that are blocking it. Actually it's the reds and I mean like not Republicans, but I mean Commis. And by the way, just in case there was any doubt, at the very end of the meeting, after or at the end of this agenda item, when they voted to approve the moratorium, the crowd broke out into a chant of the People United will never be defeated. The People United will never be defeat. Yeah, that's what they've been chanting at all of their no Kings protests, at all of their I mean, this goes back to like Occupy Wall Street, it goes back to the Tentifada, it goes back to the riots, the fiery but mostly peaceful riots after the death of Saint George Floyd. Like it's always the same chance. Why because it's always the same organizations. Why because the issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. It's just copy paste, man, copying and pasting. Just oh okay, we need a different accessory. So here's a kafia to, you know, to cause division in America. Here slap on this cafea and now we're all pro Palestine. Right. I meant I played the dim belish mayre. This is Dante Anderson. She said the topic of data centers is actually not new. That is correct, but that it has bubbled up in a very meaningful way throughout the entire country. Gee, I wonder why why would it have bubbled up recently as a divisive issue throughout the entire country. Wonder why as. We're looking at the proliferation of hyperscaled data centers and different types of data centers that we haven't seen traditionally. I think it's important to know as we ask questions through this process and staff that provided us information. We have data centers in our community here in the city of Charlotte that have been around since nineteen ninety and so that's what I mean when I say it's not a new issue. But what we now have to see is we are operating in a twenty first century and with the advanced technologies that really advance on an exponential level. Because that's the way tech works. We have to understand what the impacts are to communities, We have to understand what the impacts are to the environment, the impacts to small children, and having these facilities close approximate to K twelve schools and so that is I hope part of the work that we'll do during this moratorium. Yeah. Again, if you're trying to figure out a framework to allow the construction of these data centers, then I am interested to see what you produce. However, if this is just the way that you smuggle in a bunch of rules that ban any construction of data centers, I am your adversary. After she said that she would support the moratorium, a guy in the crowd started yelling questions about whether it's going to be a retroactive moratorium. Spoiler, it won't be, and so he wants it to stop projects already underway, notably the one on Moore's Chapel Road. I would like to take a moment, sir. No, I'm sorry, sir, you can't. You can't yell out God for sure, Sir sir the first one to call. No. No, The answer is no, you're raving lunatic. No, she wanted to do so before before. Yeah, that was Malcolm Graham. Too late. It is, it's already been approved. It was approved like two years ago. So no, you cannot make a moratorium for future permits. Retroactive that would be what's the word for it. Oh, yes, illegal. That is not allowed under the law. You are not allowed to use ex post facto, right you cannot go back and ban something that's already won approval. I mean, I guess you could try, and then we could shell out millions and millions of dollars in litigation fees and a lawsuit settlement. That is one way to go, I guess, But no, and that's been clearly articulated throughout all of this discussion. Projects already approved and permitted are not covered under a new moratorium. But I have a question, and I want to interrupt because my voice is just as important as everybody else's. Dude, you should have come to the public hearing. In fact, he probably already did. Let me jump over to the text line and see what people are saying. Oh my goodness, I'm kidding. Kevin says, if I was a data center operator, I think I would intentionally throttle everyone's Internet back in an area that banned me from building a data center there. They love their tic tac and face plant, TikTok and Facebook. I guess that's supposed to a voice to text here. They love their TikTok and Facebook until they can barely use it. Vindictive, Yes, I know, Stanley says. The reason most on the left are afraid of and against AI is if you put in unmanipulated data, you'll get an unmanipulated conclusion. The left makes a living on that manipulation, including the mainstream media and public education. That's what they want to protect. In essence, with regard to AI, might conclude have you lost your mind? Yeah? Part of it. And there have been many, many experiments over the last few years on several of these AI platforms, which is why I tend to use grock on Twitter because or x because it is an unwoke AI model. Okay. There was a. Famous example that was done early on when chat GPT launched and somebody constructed in order to prove the the AI's corruption, they put in a scenario whereby uh, there's a ticking bomb, a nuclear bomb or something, and the only in the past code to disarm the bomb, which would kill tens of millions of people, the past code was a racial slur, okay, and you had to say the racial slur out loud in order to disarm the bomb. Would it be acceptable to say that word in order to disarm the bomb? And the chat GPT model said no, you it is never sceptible to say that word. So you see the problem, right, Garbage in garbage learns off of these inputs. And so and that's a problem. Right. But to Stanley's point, I mean, yes, there there is this lack or there is a a loss or an erosion of control. And as you heard the crowd, you know, yelling and screaming. You see it all over the place in these discussions, yelling and screaming. And that's why it eventually escalates to actual violence by the left. It's because they are not willing to actually engage in the debate in the arena of ideas. They don't want to have the debate, which is why, by the way, Marxism always ends in force. It always ends the same way because what it promises it cannot deliver, and so then it has to force people in order to achieve the quote utopia. Because people don't want to, you know, give up all their money, give up all their property. They don't want to do these things, and so then you have to force them to do it. That's why, again it always ends up the same way. These are the leftists screaming and shouting down people in a public hearing. Is the same mindset, it's just a different tactic in an overall strategy of shut up, right, Because what does shut up mean? In speech? It means stop talking, stop disagreeing, right, stop being disagreeable whatever. But when somebody is now not willing to actually do something, what does shut up mean? It means force. It means you will comply. So then there was this from Kim Owens, and you're going to hear it right now. She supported the moratorium. Okay, she is in support of the moratorium, but she gets booed because if she recognizes the value of data centers and AI, and she recognizes the limitation of the law. Data centers play a vital role in our economy. They power the systems we rely on and bring investment to our region. However, these facilities can be large, consume significant energy, and operate continuously. Their size, water use, energy. Demands, and effects on nearby neighborhoods, noise, light pollution, and land use conflicts. They pose real challenges for our community, and over time we've learned that many function more like industrial uses than office spaces and. Should be located accordingly. We've also learned that not all data centers are the same, and a small facility is one thing, but a sprawling hyper scale campus is another. And our current rules do not reflect these important differences, and I feel that. That must change. By the way, I agree with what she has said here. When you get to the hyper scale models, these massive complexes, they do seem more like an industrial scale development versus an office development. Right, So, like I don't necessarily disagree with anything she has said so far. However, let me be clear, we do not have the legal authority for projects that have already been approved, and they will move forward unaffected by the moratorium. This pause, this pause is about shaping the future. Way you think we hate you like this is this is the equivalent of what the debate is. Boo booooooo. Boo. These one hundred and fifty days give us a chance to step back and ensure our policies are right. During this time, I will ask the city Manager to direct staff to carefully review project scale to rules based on facility size and impact, neighborhood buffers, setting safe distances from our homes and from our schools, water and energy demand, assessing what our infrastructure can support or should support, equity impacts, protecting vulnerable communities from unfair burdens, costs, and incentives, balancing fairness for residents and business I also would draw attension. This has not been spoken into the room, but I do have a concern about some of the storage tanks for diesel fuel. Backup generator fuel is often necessary for these and I'd like to have our folks be focused on that as well. AI is already changing transportation, housing, and many other sectors. At the Reason Housing Innovation. Summit, nearly every proposal involved AI. I've spoken with small businesses using AI to compete in new ways, getting help with HR compliance and marketing tasks they couldn't manage before. I don't know if y'all hosting. Even our own traffic optimization project is going to rely on AI. This shows that data centers and their infrastructure are key to our future, and that's why I ask all of you to be involved. Yeah, we want these people involved. Don't they seem like they're totally rational, good faith actors. Yeah, to be involved in the development of AI and how it's used. In the Charlotte City Council discussion last night, before they approved a five month moratorium on the data center construction while they do their homework and figure out how best to create a regulatory framework for the permitting and zoning of of these projects. You know, they pointed out that, like there are all of these potential impacts, environmental impacts, neighborhood impacts, water and energy and all of this, and you know, the activist crowd that was there in opposition, their argument was, I believe. Yeah, that was it. Right, Even when this thing gets unanimously passed, they're still jeering and booing council members for simply expressing the truth, which is that AI is already prevalent, it is already being used, It is already of great benefit in a lot of operations. It is a very useful tool. Okay, people use AI for all sorts of stuff. As as a council member Owens pointed out, like they're they're doing traffic studies and they're using AI because it's like, if you use it to collect and aggregate large volumes of data that would take humans a very very long time to do, like months or years, AI can do in moments. But to the crowd, as soon as she mentions that there may be beneficial uses of AI, it's boo, no, right. The biggest outcry was what you just heard last night, The biggest oppositional moaning and booing and crying came when she made her completely accurate point that AI is being used already. So this isn't about data centers per se. Okay, I understand that for some of like the local neighborhood people who have to live next door to some project that got approved because it was approved using a framework that treated it like an office building, those are a different class of people. I recognize that difference, right, But for the activist crowd, these quote unquote I mentioned this last week when these people showed up and they're all wearing T shirts, red T shirts. Party for Socialism and Liberation, right. That is a group that is funded nationally in America with chapters all over the place by nevill Roy Singham. Right. He is a tech millionaire who lives in Shanghai. Do you think this guy is opposed to data centers? No? Well, then why is he funding the Party for Socialism and Liberation? Because it hurts us it advantages China. That's the point. Okay. So the opposition to data centers by the activist crowd, that's a cover story. That is a cover story. Their opposition is to America leading the AI Revolution. That's what they're opposed to. They don't want America to remain on top in AI. When the city attorney said that it would actually be a direct violation of law to block already approved projects, the crowd booed her too, and then, in a frequently used move by city elected officials, they steered the activists to focus their attention on those desperately Republicans in Raleigh. I think it's extremely important that we speak, tell people what they need to know versus what they want to hear, and that we have a conversation based on truth and honesty about what we can and what we can't do. Certainly, Council Member Andison is correct, a lot of the framework will be shaped by state legislation in terms of how they perceived this issue. So I would encourage everyone here to also talk to your state representatives and the state senators and reference too well. Both of this thing. The frame where the guardrails that we will work within will come from. So I won't delay it any longer. I think we need to take one hundred and fifty days to pause, and even for me, I've learned more about data centers in the last six weeks than I ever knew. Yeah, okay, and I believe that. I believe that Charlotte City Council members do not have any real idea about the data center issue, not that I do. I'm not claiming any level of expertise, and they have probably learned a lot over the last few weeks. I have no doubt about that either. But this idea that you're going to offload all the responsibility up to Raleigh, like you guys control your own zoning stuff here. I understand there's state law that controls I do get that, But like this idea that you want to now like herd the leftists up to Raleigh, you go ahead and do that. That's a fantastic idea because I'm not sure you can find a more unwilling audience up there. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much, for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.