Chad Adams in for Pete Kaliner (07-08-2025--Hour3)

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There's so much going on, and it's going next year. For those of you who are interested in kind of slowing things down so you can enjoy the planet a little longer. Next year is going to fly by. There's gonna be so in addition to all the normal things that will happen, there's gonna be a ton of stuff happened. It's just gonna fly by. You're gonna feel if you have FOMO at all, next year it is going to be a very bad year for you, because there's just no way you can see it all between all the normal stuff between if you like sports at all, there's all the normal sports stuff, they're all normal seasons. But in addition, you throw in the two fifty, you throw in the World Cup, you throw in the Olympics, there's just so much going on it's going to be impossible to keep posing. I want to start with a little statistic before we get into the rest of the show today, and by the way, if you want to get in on the conversation, you are welcome to do so. It's seven oh four five seven eleven ten here at News Talk eleven ten ninety nine three WBT seven oh four five seven eleven ten. Not only is that the phone line, it's also the WBT text line driven by Liberty View at GMC, same phone number, so you can text that number and whatever you're thinking, and if you want to keep your name out of it, we'll do that as well. So they're screen that line, screen looked at and they let me know the minute that comes in now or anything that's on your mind. This is just kind of a statistic worth knowing. And as we get into and I am a let me tell you ups front. I am someone who absolutely believes the last four years have been devastating from a from an economic immigration standpoint, the illegal immigration situation, the lack of enforcement at the border. We had four years of an administration saying Congress is the only person that can do anything. And we knew that wasn't true. Left or right, we knew it. We've seen it now. You know that got aways and apprehensions have nearly dropped to zero. It's an amazing turnaround from an inept administration to one that knows what the hell they're doing. So, but here's here the numbers given. I remember eating a column by George will back in the nineties and he was addressing the then immigration problem and saying that Americans pretty much in this may in the early middle nineties. Anyway, I penned it. Actually, it's back when people cut things out of newspapers. I did, and I remember referring to it quite a bit because it was it's a numbers game, and here's here's the reality. And I don't care if you are hardcore right leaning or you hate this process by which they are illegals. We've let in millions legally, but there's a lot more. The most recent estimates suggest that there are approximately eleven million. I love the use of this race unauthorized immigrants living in the United States, and I love the way they have to add this description. This is kind of an AI thing. These individuals reside in the US without legal permission. In other words, they said, unauthorized immigrants that are living here without legal permission. I can expedite that. That shortened a lot. There are eleven million illegal immigrants slash aliens living in the United States. Now, that's an unfathomably large number. If you want to try to let's put that in perspective. Think about Charlotte Mecklenburg Union comparis, all the counties around it, Gaston, and then keep going and add the counties leading up to Bunkom and the counties that lead up to Guildford and Greensboro, lead the counties at Durham and Wake, Raleigh and Durham over to Cumberland County and Fedville, and then keep going and add go on down the road seventy four to seventy six, all the way to New hanifd County, go all the way to the outer banks, go all the way to the far corners, you know, from Murphy to Manio, from state line to state line. And then add that number together and you don't get to eleven million. So picture the entire population of North Carolina, the known population. That's how many illegal immigrants around the country best estimate right now, that's almost a number that's now think about that if you were trying to move, I mean, we can barely, we can barely evacuate the coast in the path of a hurricane. You have to turn all the roads in reverse. And it's and even then it's it's a ludicrously large number of people to stay. And that's just as small. It's like a county like Brunswick or Newhan or you know, one hundred two hundred thousand people, not ten million. Imagine moving the entire state of North Carolina to Texas or to I don't know, Florida ten plus million people. The logistics involved in doing that are you can't even picture that. There's not enough And especially if you're trying to imagine this, You've got to gather up all the people in the state that don't necessarily want to go and leave the state, and you've got to gather them up, and then you have to process them. You have to have to do process legal and get them on a bus. You know how many buses it would take. Just do the simple math that the fifty sixty people for bus divided by eleven million, and you get a ludicrous number. There aren't enough busses to move those folks. Now, I'm not saying we shouldn't move forward with what we're doing, but I want you to. I want everyone out there to have a realistic expectation of what this means, because this is not a one, two, three four year process. This is a decayed nol. It would take. It is a It is going to take the fortitude of and this is why the Democrats are so important. It's going to take the fortitude of both parties to get this sound of control. Now, one word, the ugly word that Reagan used and it happened is amnesty. They're asking Trump about that word. Now, is there a way to because we're trying to First of all, you have to get rid of the bad guys. You got to get rid of the bad guys. Those are criminal records, those of rape, murder, all that stuff. You've got to find a way that the most important high target you got to get rid of. That's what the alligator of Alcatraz. Don't let people think you it's about women and kids out there. Know these are these are the bad ones. These are the ones you want to get the heck out of the country. But nonetheless, eleven million unauthorized illegal immigrants, let's run that number. So Holman said yesterday that he's dealing with seven thousand a day, that he's got to deport seven thousand a day just to keep up with the Biden you know, the last two years of Biden. If you add all of that up, if you did, and it's hard to get it's seven thousand people a day is tough if you do set and I don't know that they're doing that seven days a week, but if they were seven thousand people a day, seven days a week for an entire year, you get to two point five million. And that's if you can get to seven thousand a day, and that is a heavy lift. So even if you were to do seven thousand a day, seven days a week for four years, you get to ten million. But that is a herculean, unachievable reality. That's what That's what Tom Holman's group and ices up it. Not to mention, you've got democrats that don't want to cooperate with them, You've got cities that want to try to and you've got a bunch of democrats and lefties that are trying to monitor where ICE is what they're doing and put it on an app so that people can target and kill them. So the left is making the job increasingly difficult. They don't want people to be deported. They don't seem to think that having a border in the country matters. But it is. It is a mathematical you know, it's not right or wrong. It's a mathematical problem. I don't know how it's dealt with. We don't have the inforession right now. If you could get a magic button and round up all eleven million unauthorized immigrants in the country. There's no there's no facility in the country or the world that can house that. We don't have the logistics, We don't have that many buses played with. You don't You can't move the entire population of North Carolina in a reasonable amount of time, especially if they don't want to be found. So just wanted to put that out there so that you can chew on that. Make you mad, you can make it up static, make you mad about what happening, make you extremely upset about what's happened over the past four years. But it also means that we've got it. I don't know if we have the stomach as a society for what that would look like moving into the entire population of a state. Basically, I don't know that we have the stomach for that. So we'll see. But the good news is you have to stop the bleeding first, you have to get rid of the bad guy's second, and then you've got to strategically figure out how to work back to where there might be a legitimate path to citizenship for some I don't know. I'm not saying that that's the answer, but the logistics of eleven million nigh on impossible. Just not gonna happen, all right. If you're listening to this show, you know I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, And you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed with ground News. 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It's been a pleasure and honor to work with them these past few years, and a great team behind the scenes making it sound fantastic. Now, thanks for holding, and I'll get to those phone calls right away. Richard, you've been on hold through the break. What's on your brain today? Man? How you doing well? The mining administration, they basically essentially have broken it. I'm not going to be able to put. Humpty Dumpy back together again. So we get rid of the criminals and you're gonna have to do some sort of comprehensive immigration reform because we have to just mitigate the damage. At this point, you're not going to be able to put it all back together again. I you know, I don't think you're wrong there on the background, but you're you're hitting on all sellers there. I think that that and there's some people that are going to say, oh, this was all planned, they wanted to break the system. I think it was just an inept administration. But it when it comes to comprehensive immigration reform that is something that Congress needs to do. That is a congressional thing. It's not about securing the border, although that's been done, but I do I don't know what the path for it will be. It's very Reagan esque. I don't see, and I don't think the American public has the stomach to see eleven million people load up on buses, plus you don't have enough busses to do it. So I don't think you're wrong there. So I don't think you're disagree. I really do think this was done absolutely purposely. You can't beat this dumb and they did it purposely. But we got to get the criminals out, and we're going to have to figure out a way because they want these people to vote. We just have to figure out away what they vote. Conservatively, eleven million votes at stake. Yeah, you're right, and I don't disagree. I think they saw the trend line. There are many people that wanted this staff and so, Richard, thank you for the call. Man. I appreciate your listening. And one of our favorite callers, I think he's been on motion what Hello? So I think Mike is a frequent caller to the broadcast. Mike, you know someone who's been active in Democrat politics for many years. Welcome to the show. How the heck are you? I'm doing time? Yeah, I was living the wrong line. Have you got me? I do? You are on the air? Okay, thank you? I was, I was talking out. I think you picked up the line. Excuse me? And can you hear me? Okay? Chief, I got a new head be and I don't know what it's sounding like. You sound great, Mike, go ahead, all right. Sorry about that. I appreciate the quick intro, believe it or all. I'm actually calling to thank you for talking just about the numbers, you know, just being straightforward about what the path that we're on right now. And I've spoken with bred about this before. I think I don't know. I'm not sure you and I have spoken on it before. But rather than nass deportation, I'm talking about maybe smart deportation. And what I mean by that is really talking about a lot of your priorities. First stop the bleeding, which you know in terms of security the borders, which we was done, and then secondly get the bad guys out. And I think if the administration and law enforcement focused on that, on that aspect of really focusing on the bad guys rather than just sweeping everybody up, we be better off. And the other thing about it is really an economic issue. If you're not really compassionate about these people who haven't had to traverse so far to get here to try and seek the better life. It's just the economics of it. They voted in this recent bill, which is a separate conversation which I'd love to have with you sometimes. But there's like one hundred and fifty billion dollars there, right Chad, and right now it's designated to go all to all these prisons and to you know, do transportation and all this other stuff help out if we instead look at building up courts and training people that can help the good folks, which is the vast, vast, vast majority of these people come in and go through the process, go you know that, we vet them, We know who they are. Most of them are holding down jobs now under the radar. Most of them are wanting to be very good citisens. That's what they're here while they're here. But Mike, let me, I think if we took if we took money in that and moved it that way, not only would it be smarter. It'd be a lot we make a lot more money that way, a lot better for the economy. So if you move them all out, I mean, that's going to really really hurt the economy. Mike. I appreciate you, know your I think you're trying to find some common ground there. Much appreciated. Many listeners are familiar with hearing you on the different shows, and we appreciate your listening. I'm sure the station does as well. Now I agree with you, I don't, so we got we agree. We got to get aggressive about those that means harm. There are many cartel members, there's many people foreig nationals that don't they came in from Canada, even not just Mexico, but have come through the Canadian border. That there is a serious criminal issue that needs to be dealt with. And then as we get through this, as Holman said, seven thousand people today is an almost an unsustainable clip. I get very good at it, but at a certain point you're running into a different demographic that you're having to deal with. I do think in the second reconciliation and the fall or possibly next spring, the next reconciliation, which the Speaker of the House referred to on numerous interviews, not just me. That will be something that comes up. Congress needs to deal with that issue that is beyond just the executive branch, and that is something that must be conferred and dealt with with Congress and maybe approved about the executive branch to move things forward. Mike, I'm up against a break right now. But quick question, well stay if you want to stay through the break, you can. I just got to go to a break. Okay, I don't mind just taking around. I love this kind of conversation. But here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Ashville is your connection. Whether you're celebrating an anniversary, a honeymoon, maybe you want to plan a memorable proposal, or get family and friends together for a big old reunion, Cabins of Asheville has the ideal spot for you where you can reconnect with your loved ones and the things that truly matter. 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I'll probably say it a lot more as the week goes on, having a blast. As always, we're continue with our quessial with Mayak stay through the break. Mine a frequent caller to the station. As I understand, I've spoken to him several times in my various stints here, and we were talking about immigration. We had some common ground. But Mike, you got a question that I have one for you, So I'll let you go on. You've been saving up your question. Go ahead. Is great, but I'm having a tough time here and here you've gotten no kind of soft on me. If I don't, maybe the turne will volume up on my end, but I will. I will ask the question first that I was holding through the brake Ford, which is, you know, Home is talking about moving out seven thousand a day, and you were right to point out what a heavy list that is and how difficult it is to get those kind of numbers. My question for you, though, I love your opinion of those seven thousand, if somehow he could arrange all that and crank it all up and just you know, quite grupful by factor of ten whatever the number of agents and rags that you're seeing and get all that. But how many of those seven thousands are the really bad guys? Well that's what they're determining there. They're not really bad guys. Aren't we hurting ourselves? I don't know if Mike, I don't know if you heard Homan. What he's saying is, after going through the process of finding out who they are, he's deporting seven thousand a day. So my question was, you know, doing that seven days a week, it's an unsustainable And I agree it's an unsustainable path. I mean, you're getting them, you're collecting them. Only certain ones are going to the alligator Alcatraz, which I know drive some people bonkers. But they are finding people that you know, a lot of them they were here illegally. But more than more troubling, there's a criminal element, and it's it's you have a let just think about this, Mike. There's a ten million, almost eleven million in North Carolina, roughly the same number, and you think about the number as a percentage of the population. They're bad people in our own prisons and stuff, and those that are in the system, those are just they're here legally. Those are legal citizens in the system. So in a pool of eleven million people, it's still an unfat It's hard to picture, but there are really that many bad guys, just as it's just in any given population. Yeah, and so we've got a long way to go. My question for you, Mike, is this okay, yeah. Do you foresee, I don't think anything passes Congress unless it's a bypart of an effort to move this process forward. I think they've got to work together on this one. There's no way that it's going to be a party party issue. I mean, it can't be otherwise it won't be acceptable. Oh, I agree with that, and I think that Frankly, he get a lot of support the president. We get a lot of support if he would just bring back what was that he put his thumb on and squashed last year. That bipartisan bill was ready to go, and the only reason it did not pass was because Trump said, I want that issue to run on and don't solve the problem. Don't make big sacks on it was a perfect bill. No, did they solve a lot of the problem, not all of them, but many of the problems. You better did so at least bring that back as a starting place. See that's up to Congress now. But I would say this, I disagree. I don't think having read that bill, I don't think it was a good I think now with the context of what has transpired and the movement that we've made, it in the fact that the border is secure, I think now's the time to bring a version of that bill forward. But Congress must deal with this. They didn't under Democrats, they didn't under Republicans. It must be done. It's something that needs to be moved forward quickly. And on that I think you and I would agree, all right. Yeah, and want anything else? For me, I mean, I think you probably agree on this too. Is for me, it's not about being soft, it's about being smart. And I said before, not mass deportation. I think a better word would be methodical, be more deportation. And as I said, it's not being soft, it's being smart and more than that. For me, we've just finished the life for it. And actually it was two hundred and forty nine years ago. Today the Declarations of Independence has read the first time in public in Philadelphia. So that's you're over the trivia. But it's also that train stayed true to I think American values. We're nations of laws, we're a nation of compassion, and it's a nation that still can be the best hope on earth for those yearning to be free. And I just think we can do better. And that's what I'm I'm hoping that rather than all the fear tactics and the troops that have got you know, the invading parks and home depots and things like that. Let's focus on getting using intelligence, you know, and the focus to get it down and mike that guys out and then help help the other people who are productive to stay here. Mike. I appreciate your sentiments there. I think many of them were heartfelt. I think if more Democrats felt that way, we'd be moving that ball down the court. And I think that you will be very silent. I appreciate the respect. I gotta go. We're up against heartbreak. You know. Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life, and our stories are told through images and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video. Started in nineteen ninety seven and Minhill, North Carolina. 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So I've been hearing you know both ways that illegal immigration is good for the economy or and it's bad for the economy. But if I'm not mistaken, if you're going to have and my belief is that the majority of the illegal immigrants here remit most of their earned income here back to wherever their home country is. So if you're removing that money out of the American economy, how is that really benefiting our economy? It seems that the only person really benefiting is the employer, because the employer's not going to give us any cheaper prices than they have to. They're going to charge what the market will bear, regardless of what their operating costs are. So if they can save money, we're not going to see it unless their competition starts to cut prices too. So if they're taking money out of the economy, how are we, the average American benefiting from this? How's our economy benefiting from this? Craig, I think yours spot. I mean, according to you know, as many statistics as you can roughly find, it's about two hundred and seventy five billion dollars a year plus that leave the country. What percentage that is from folks who are not here legally, I don't know. I would assume the longer you've been here, the more your income stays here. Not only that, it's the infrastructure cost as well. I mean some people would say, well, they pay taxes, they pay some taxes here and stuff like that, eighty nine billion in federal, state, and local taxes, But they they also this overall number, and it's again it's unfathomably large. These people also receive benefits. So if you were to add the meta medicaid, if you were to add you know, snap. If you were to add the nutritional supplements, if you were to add all of these other infrastructure cost uh, not to mention the medical costs and and and subsidies. It it is. It is a net negative. That is why it is somewhat of a boat and excuse me, it is a boat anchorle society. I'm not gonna say it's not. It's the American way of life. A lot of people spend a lot of time, effort, energy to come here legally to abide by the system. They spend seven years of their life. They spend inexorable amount of money. They it is a to be To want and become a citizen is a lifetime achievement for many, and it angers them as much as it angers anyone. Then eleven million people come here not even caring about that reality. Don't care. Now, that's one of the things that the people who are mitigating it and and just soft on them don't see, is that it is like moving to the front of the line and walmart er anywhere. When you see people breaking line in front of you. You did it all, you did it legally, and people break in front of you. That drives you bonkers and that's one of the problems it needs. If there is any kind of path, those people need to be at the end of the line, not the front of the line. We always reward people that want to be illegally become citizens and be part of the process and contribute to it, and that's what's critical. And Craig, I don't know if you're still there or not, but I appreciate you being part of the broadcast, right. Did that help it all? Did we agree on that? Yeah, yeah, we do agree on that. It's just I think when you also need some bigger we need to make remittances to where they're not worth coming here to remit money. I mean, you can come here and work a minimum waste job and depending on where you come from, your family can live like they're getting one hundred grand a year. Sure, and there should be like a tariff on that if you're remitting money through services. I'd hate to say I'm in favor of a tax there. But you don't get a free pass. I'm sorry. You know you get if you want to contribute here, you want to invest here. You know. Trump even referred to a gold pass or something like that for people who want to put five million dollars in investment here. You know, that's what this America First movement is about, is investing here in this country for the benefit of this country and the people in it, the citizens of this country, and to their benefit and the life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, all of this. The Craig, I appreciate the call man, thank you, and appreciate your listening. So that's kind of what it's all about. And to Mike's call over that, I think that's where that's where Mike and I have a disconnect. He talks about smart immigration. I don't disagree with the phraseology there. I think the people want to do that, but it does not need to diminish those who want to come here legally. And that's the issue. These people did it from Mexico, from Canada, from all the countries on the planet. I mean, there was a swearing in ceremony in the south Ford twenty eight different countries, fifty eight people, seven to ten years of their life. Those folks, they're at the front of the line, and they need to stay at the front of the line. Those folks that are in that process, and they look around and look, I have a dear friend who owns a restaurant, and he is more anti I legal immigration than I am. He's a legal immigrant. He did it the right way. He goes home to visit family and friends. He is here with his family legally. They applied, they got in, They've gone through the process. He's a citizen, and he is a citizen with more knowledge about our constitution and our history than most of the people that I run across to you run across in the streets or just in public life. That's a testament to their love of this nation. He also passed to serve. I want if there's a way for you to get in the system and volunteer or be a part of the military, and you have an ALLEGI here. The solution is not easy. I'm not glossing over the enormity of eleven million. Logistically speaking, is it's an unfathomably large number. And I don't know. I'm not pretending there's a magic solution, but it's it is just moving everybody to the front of the line. That's not acceptable. It's not gonna happen. It's just not gonna happen. I mean, that's kind of a full stop. As I was explaining yesterday, it's the micro drop moment not gonna happen. How do you deal with it? Uh, maybe there's a there's a path somehow, but it's not to move in front of the people who've done it in a legitimate fashion. It's it's a way of everything is fully documented. You you're for everything about you being here. You know. The self deportation app allows you to deport yourself. Those people, those people are saying I want to come back, and they're providing a way to do that. They get in that app, they give their information, they self deport It gives them an opportunity to to come back to this country. And I think it's over a million now. If we had five million people that self deported, Yeah, those people have an opportunity to come back legally. That's a really good idea that doesn't really cost a whole lot. It's actually beneficial to them, beneficial for the country, folks. It's been an hout privilege. I will be back the next couple of days through the end of the week. I hope Pete's enjoying his time off. I will have Donald Vandervar joining us tomorrow. He the former head of d EQ. That's going to be an interesting TQ. I know that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening with. Your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to dpeteclenarshow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and uh, don't break anything while I'm gone.