Caller Tom wants to talk about the Jooooos (10-08-2025--Hour2)

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Just look at the Middle East, look at all of Christendom, what used to be Christendom. It has been completely conquered, well seventy percent of the Christian lands conquered and no more Christians. Right, they don't live there. I'm not allowed to live there anymore. They flee, or they convert, or they pay the tax, or they're killed. So those are basically your options and have been for the last, you know, fourteen centuries. I got this message from Linda on the text line Pete. I also recently discovered Raymond Ibrahim and I watched several of his videos as a senior lady. He is the kind of guy that I want a bear hug from. Is when you see him like he is jacked, like he has his biceps are like the size of my Torso he is a big dude. He is great, and also studied under Victor Davis Hanson. Yes. In fact, I think a couple of his books he wrote with Victor Davis Hanson, or a foreword by or something like that. He met. Hanson's name is on a couple of the book covers in some of those cases. So yeah, he's been doing this for you know, almost thirty years now, doing this research and this is his area of focus. Sure, let's take Tom. Hello, Tom, welcome to the program. Stay, Pete, how's it going? Hey, Hey, I might have missed. Some of it. I heard a little talking about the Kuran. I just want to know if you guys talked about there's some pretty extreme things in the Taumuted. Well, so did you guys discuss any of that? Well, he is his area of focus, all of his scholarship has been regarding the essentially the war between Islam and the West. Okay, yeah, so, but I'm so, why why would that be of interest when talking about the history and the current persecution of Christians? Well, why would that prompt a question about the Talmud? Well, it's it's I think if you cherry pick the Bible, the Talmid, the Quran, you can find some pretty uh horrific things in all of them. And you know you said that if he wore across and you walked into a mosque, they're offended by it. Well, Jews are also offended by it. You would be asked to remove across uh from uh. If he didn't, he was nobody said that. That was not an example that he mentioned. He said, you can't show across. He said, you can't build a church, you can't repair a church. He said, you can't sing your gospel songs or worship songs. You can't ring your bells. You see a difference there between what you what what I don't know where you got that store with that and that example from he didn't say that. And there's also a difference between you know, being offended. If you were to like, you know, show up as a Christian and show up in a in a synagogue, you know, wearing you know, across but like if you were to do that, do you think that they would behead you? No, I didn't say that, And I'm not sure that would that would happen in any mosque either. But really you don't think that would happen in any mosque. I'm not saying any moss. You just did say any mosque. That's why I asked. Okay, so you do agree there would be some mosques, probably on the face of the earth where if you were to walk in wearing the yamaga or something, you would probably be beheaded. Okay, and not too long ago? No, no, no, hang on, hang on, Tom, Tom, hang on, hang on. I just want I'm seeking clarity in your argument. Do you accept that that that there are mosques there are places where that would in fact occur. In probably some backwoods Middle Eastern country, very rare that that may occur. Okay, So how do you do you walk in If. You're a Christian and you walk into a synagogue with the cross on, they are offended by it as well. I'm not talking about murder, but they are the tall Miidd. Yeah, they get offended. Okay, fine, Yeah, I think christ Yeah, I think people would be offended regardless. So what's the point of that. Well, the point is I feel like you're you're you're cherry picking this Muslim thing. What Muslim thing? All of your conversations today. Again, I understand that's today's topic. But if you go to the tallmid they think our Jesus Christ is burning an extrement and there's many other bad things in the Tallamut. So we can we can pick all three religions and we can find extremist things that are not good. Do you okay? So what you're so, what you're saying is that because there are objectionable texts or passages in all of these different religions, therefore we are to what ignore fourteen hundred years of warfare from Muslim colonizers versus what because because I'm unaware of the Jews doing anything similar to that for fourteen hundred years. Maybe I missed it. Yeah, I think you have. Which okay, so fourteen hundred years of Jews colonizing lands. Did you mention the Israelis that bombed the Christian Church because. There was a no is that colonizing? Is? That? Is that colonizing all of the Christian lands? I don't know what bombed I do, it's not talk about. It's no, yeah, because it was an accident in war, and that does happen. All of their all of their things or accidents. So Tom, this is why I asked the question about why the why a discussion about the history of Christian persecution and the current data, the current data that which actually you said you did, and listen to the entire interview. The first half of it. We talked about mainly Africa and Nigeria specifically where Christian is murdered about every two hours. So that's what's happening right now today. But I do have an interest I'm kind of curious as to why that kind of a discussion now prompts you to want me to talk about the. Jews because you're cherry picking. I don't think you know what that word means. I don't think you know what the word means. There's no because cherry picking would be saying I'm going to take this one example and I'm going to make that like for example here, I'll use a good example of the cherry picking. Your example of the Christian Church being hit. That's cherry picking. See what I and Raymond Ibrahim were doing was giving you the macro level all of the data Global Data reports on persecution of Christian and zooming out. So that's actually not cherry picking at all, it's the reverse. Well, look right here today, there's sixty seven thousand dozens that have been killed. It's a genocide, and we don't seem to talk about much of that on WBT. Because I'll tell you I've talked a lot about I've talked a lot about Israel since over the last two years and the war in Gaza. I thought I've made myself pretty clear on my views on what's going on there. First off, I reject the idea that it is the charge that it is in fact a genocide. I've heard the arguments. I've been listening to debates about it for two years, and I don't agree with you. Number one. Number two if you don't want to see your homeland decimated by a superior military force, my recommendation is to not go in and murder and rape their people. That's my recommendation. Yeah, okay, yeah, all right. I mean that's WBT. Tom. I'm just one host. You are free to listen to other hosts that may have more nuanced or different positions. That's totally fine, but that's. My view on it. You're free to make a case like I've brought you on here. You're free to make a case on WBT, this bastion of freeze. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Okay, it's the Jews, Thank you, Tom. You know, stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life, and our stories are told through images and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video. Started in nineteen ninety seven and Minhill, North Carolina. 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It's because I do believe sincerely, and I'm not just saying this in order to, you know, stir a pod or get people to call or whatever. I've never done my show that way. If I want people to call, I will say here's the phone number taking your calls. I'm asking you a question, what's your answer, what do you think about this? Or whatever. Usually I give the phone number, and if you listen to my show, you will hear that. I build my shows as if I never take a call at all. I don't need to take calls. I like to take some phone calls, especially if they add stuff to the program. If people disagree with me, I want those calls, but I don't do things to get people to call me, like I don't take positions that I don't believe are untrue. So I preface that to say this, which is, I do believe we are in a battle for Western civilization, and I don't believe it's new. I believe it's it's constant. I also believe there is an overlay of good versus evil and that manifests itself in all sorts of different ways. I also believe that that is a battle that has existed from the beginning. So those are my cards. I put them on the table so everybody understands. Like, so when I see these things that are threatening Western civilization, which yes is Judeo Christian, and I look at what's happening, particularly in the UK, that's been a bit of an eye opener for me. I feel like we are approaching a critical mass point in time. So I have a message here on the text line. This is not the first time you had a show about the danger that Islam posed on the world. So what's your game plan to stop it? I don't have a game plan, anonymous person from South Carolina. I don't have a game plan. All I'm trying to do is raise awareness to let people hear this stuff, because I had not heard of the persecution of Christians being as widespread as it obviously is according to the data that's concerning no I think so, so I figured, you know what, I'm going to ask this guy to come on and talk about these things. He's obviously done the research. He speaks Arabic, he's read the original source material. By the way, he made a reference in Raymond Ibrahim. He made a reference in one of his comments there about if you can get the what do he say, accurate translations? I think is what he said, And. I've seen him talk about this in another interview that he did, where the Quran is being translated differently to English speaking audiences in the West than the original Arabic. The original stuff is different and it gets kind of watered down, it gets repackaged for a Western audience. And this isn't like, oh, there's a different interpretation for this word or something that's not what's happening. Over in the UK. The British prison system is apparently about half Muslim now, and that's where they spend basically all day recruiting into Islam. And it's an oppress or oppressed mentality. Does that sound familiar to me? It seems pretty similar that you have these these common threads through a Marxist ideology and an Islamist ideology, that you're the oppressed. You can then do whatever it takes to be to oust the oppressor by any means necessary. We keep hearing the Palestinian supporters and Hamas Holese say, right, anything becomes permissive, permitted. Rather, let me jump over and get Richard on real quick. Hello Richard, welcome to the show. Hi. How you doing all right? I mean, we really need to follow the bouncing ball here. You see what's going on in Europe, you see what's going on in Africa and Nigeria. They're killing Christians left and right. I don't understand why people just can't see. It's like the Red Coats are coming. They're telling you it's a world tell of fate. What part of that don't people understand? They're using our laws and our freedom to conquer us in Europe, we are selling drugs, they're raping women. They've taken over the labor Party. They've basically taken over the labor Party in the UK. It's and that's that was why the quote grooming gangs, the rape gangs didn't get the coverage and didn't get the prosecutions and stuff for so long. And we have and we have certain people in Congress and in the Senate. We got this guy, man Danny Ye New York followed the Bouncing Book. There's a pattern here worldwide that people need to follow, and we need There's no more soft Christianity. You have to be really rooted in your faith because you're going to be challenged and you may be conquered. So look at your wife and look at your children. Men, stand up, Richard, I gotta leave it there. I appreciate the call. 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He says it began as a humble for the people movement, and once it amassed enough followers, it pivoted to a conquering steal all the resources for its leaders, suppress its own rank and file, destroy any dissenter's movement. Yeah. And I think if you just if you look at the historical trend line, you know at the beginning, when Muhammad was was out there preaching and got into all the trouble because he was preaching you know, paganism in the eyes of the U. The leaders of the I guess he was. He started in Medina, right trading town, and this sort of thing, and he he would recruit and and proselytize to sort of the the the lowly of the low and such. And it was a out peace and getting along because he was trying to build his his following. And then you know, they kick him out and I think that's when he heads off to Mecca, right, and then he marries the woman who dies and he inherits all of her wealth and then he's able to pay for soldiers, he raises armies, and then he begins conquering and sort of that that trajectory, that timeline is a very human one, right in that when you don't have the power, you play nice, and then when you get stronger, now you can do what you want. And now you're going to go and and you know, rape and murder your way across Christendom. And that's and if you look at the way the the their texts are written, well, first off, they jumble it all up so like it's really weird. It's not chronological. So yeah, they like they they take they stack the Karan in a way that's very confusing. I would submit it's purposefully so they stack it so like the shortest verses are at the end, I think, and the longest ones are at the beginning. So I don't know why you would do that. I'm sure they've got some you know, religious explanation for it or something, but that makes it difficult to understand the chronology. When you understand the chronology of it, then you see like, yeah, okay, this is a very sort of human progression that occurred. This is from Melissa. Most of my life I've lived in a predominantly Jewish county and worked in a Jewish healthcare facility for twenty five years. As a non Jewish person, I believe I have a working knowledge of both the Reformed and Conservative religion. It's pretty simple. Jewish people don't want to kill or convert me choose wisely. See. This is one of the other things too, And I think Tom's call is a really good illustration of it. I mean, aside from the wanting me to focus on the Jews because for some reason he thinks that the hitting of a church, which by the way, I'm not even sure they actually hit the church, but regardless, it doesn't matter. But a church in Gaza, which by the way, the only Christian churches that remain in Gaza are there because they're supporting Hamas, right, Okay, that's anyway. The hitting of a church in a war zone is supposed to be a counterpoint to fourteen hundred years of civilizational conquest, subjugation, and genocide, right see. And this is what I this is what I tried to highlight to Tom. I don't think he understood what I was arguing, or he did understand and he didn't want to address it. But there is also I thought, there is this Western conceit this idea that because you think a cera as a you know, lifelong member of a Western civilization that has been built up over uh, you know, two thousand years, that that for some reason, everybody outside of that civilization thinks the same way you do. And I used to I used to think that way too, I did. I used to think that, oh, well, they're just people. They they want freedom too, and they want this and they want that whatever. But no, there are a lot of other people outside of our civilization that do not They literally do not want anything at all that Western civilization offers, and they don't they don't have the same values, they don't have the same way of thinking about things. So that's Western conceit. So I don't project my values onto others with an expectation that they will adhere to them. What I am trying to do is highlight that they have their own values, and their own values are rooted in a completely different philosophy, different religion, and that might be a problem, particularly if you like or in this example, I will say the UK that they have opened their borders to people predominantly from these areas that are high Muslim population concentration, but also a particular strain of Islam that believes in this sort of supremacy, Islamic supremacy, and that's a problem in a free society that is getting captured now by that ideology, right had we And I think it's just a luck of geography that the illegal immigration coming into our country has been from Central and South America. There are a lot of Catholics there. It's a different kind of that is, a Western infused philosophy, a Western infused way of thinking and living. That is, you know, because of the Spaniards and the conquering that they did. So it is a different kind of migration than what the UK is seeing because they are in closer proximity to the Muslim world right, So that's who they're getting, and it's having profound destabilizing effects in their society. Now, if you don't think the Western society is worth preserving because it's systemically fill in the blank a bad thing, then this probably doesn't concern you. Now, if you believe Western society is worth preserving, well, then this should concern you. It concerns me, and that's why I talk about it like I do. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville is your connection. 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Call or text eight two eight three six seven seventy sixty eight or check out all there is to offer at Cabins Offashville dot com and make memories that'll last a life time. A lot of people have a lot of thoughts on this topic. From Moral Compass on Twitter it's a Pete tweet. A friend of mine did two tours in Afghanistan and he has said similar things as you have said. The people over there do not hold the same values that we do. Oh and by the way, this was the position of the left. You may recall when George W. Bush said We're going to, you know, create a democracy over in Iraq, and we were going to nation build and all that. When they were saying that, the left was saying, no, we can't do that, shouldn't do that to different people, whatever, and they were right by the way right they turned out to be correct. But now we're supposed to believe that they they are of similar mind on these things, and all they need is just more buckets of democracy or something. This is from Craig. For that guy to try to equate Jewish self defense with Muslim aggression is laughable. But you got to laugh to keep from crying. Jake said, I love your response to that guy. I'd love to be able to respond to these people like you do. Well, Thank you, Jake. But this is why I do this. That's one of the reasons is I try to arm you with these arguments and these debate tactics that you can use as well. I'm like, I'm not. A terribly bright guy here, but if you know do enough of the reading, you hear enough of the research, and you listen to enough people over time like you are able to then formulate these arguments and you hear how a debate and argument can flow, and you can look for certain ways to engage. And I hope that me doing that helps give you some examples so you can employ them, because I have done that with other people that I've watched and read and listened to over the years. Robin says, as a common sense forty nine year old woman that has done my own research for decades on issues, I really appreciate how you handle, how you handily in insert oh, okay, handily insert common sense and facts into these discussions and then bid the clowns adieu. I learned a lot on your program, and thank you, well, thank you, Robin. I appreciate that. Susie says, I think Tom also does not understand the definition of genocide. No, that's but look, that is a that is a weapon being used against Israel, okay, and it has been from you know, the very beginning, just like everybody starving in Gaza. They were saying that at the very beginning of the war. And so when you recognize it for what it is, that it is a weapon being used against Israel in order to get them to stop fighting Hamas, which is what Hamas wants, which is by the way, have you noticed the people that have been screaming for a cease fire now for the last two years, when given the opportunity for an actual cease fire that gives Hamas what it wants. They're nowhere to be found. Now. Nobody is urging Hamas to take the deal. In fact, they're saying don't take it. So what does that tell you? We are in a battle space, online media battle space, right, and people are trying to influence policy and actions via social media campaigns or what used to be called propaganda. So always keep that in mind when you are when you are looking at these stories and these reports. And by the way, that's not to say that Israel has done everything right in their war. They haven't. They haven't. I don't cover the war every single day. I follow it, I I read some people, and I kind of keep up on stuff on a semi regular basis. I'm not following every troop movement and everything like that that's going on over there. But again, I come back to if you did not want a war, then you should not have invaded your neighbor. But here's the thing. Hamas did want the war. They did. That's why they launched the invasion. That's why they built their tunnel system. That's why they did it right. They built the tunnels in order to use their people as human shields. And they've trained up at least now three generations to believe there's no higher calling than being a human shield in a war against Jews. So they built their tunnel system for the fighters to stay in, not the public, and then let them be the meat shields, let them get attacked. Then we use their deaths against the Jews. That's the propaganda play, right. They are using the West's empathy against them. That's what's occurring, suicidal. Empathy all right. Back to this message. That would be you when you actually wipe an entire race of people off the face of the earth. Israel keeps dropping flyers and putting out messages for civilians to flee before they come into an area to fight hamas warriors, and giving aid to civilians there. If this were a genocide, they'd be attacking all the six hundred million Muslims that surround them instead of just the ones who attacked them two years ago in a small piece of land adjacent to their country. By the way, this raises another point. I watched a debate between Coleman Hughes and Dave Smith, and Coleman Hughes made a great point that if the biggest beef with Israel was the blockade. You know, Egypt engaged in that too. Egypt's got like six walls between Gaza and Egypt. They don't let anybody enter out. Okay, they participated in that, and Hamas could spare not a single rocket over into Egypt, which tells you what you need to know. Right, They're not going to fire the rocket into Egypt because Egypt isn't filled with Jews. I mean, like that's the point. It's doctrinal. I keep saying this. It's doctrinal. It's the Koran mentions the Jews like fifty five times. Okay, it's right there in their text. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetekallnershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.