Blackpillers and sunshine patriotism | Hour 2

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This is nihilism, it's pessimism, it's defeatism, it's surrender and I do not adhere to it. But Craig called in because apparently Craig disagrees with me on this. So you disagree you get to the front of the line. Hello Craig, Welcome to the show. Hello Pete. Yes, sir, I wanted to say about black pillars. I don't know that some of them are just horrible, man, But a lot of it, to me is about it's about literally accepting the things you can't change, having the courage and change the things you can, the wisdom to know the difference. I disagree. Well, when we look at this country right now, I think just mathematically we're finished. The only thing literally holding the country together right now. And this is going to get a little racial. White men make up about twenty. Five percent of the country. They count a lot of Arabs in there, so it sounds higher, but they're not really white, but they're counted as white anyways. But very literally the ones that are pretty much holding the country together in conservative style, Yeah, that population is destroyed by immigration. Yeah, we're going to be perpetually socialist. There's just no not enough numbers to virtually out. So what is it about? So so hang a second, you think that there is something inherently not socialist or mar Marxist about being a white. Dude, Well, we're the only ones that still pretty much seem to have the good old founding Christian conservative values. I mean, I know, there's all races can have it. Yeah, they do, statistically, they don't in America though, statistically very few black. Yeah. It's the yeah, but it's the it's the white males that are black pilling. Yeah, because we've finally woken up to the way the world is going to turn out in this guy, you don't know that what we're getting our We do know that you don't. Mathematics. Can I get the winning lottery numbers? Then the mathematics and future we're seeing what happens. All countries eventually fail. Eventually they all fail, we all spin themselves into oblivion and then they disintegrate or regroup into something else. Right, Okay, so what's so what's the plan then? To do nothing? Okay? Where are you going? Eventually? So where are you going? Southeast Asia? You're going to go to Southeast Which country in Southeast Asia? Probably Thailand or the Philippines. Why is that? Well, For one, the cost of living to the women. The cost of living to the women. Cost of living is one one reason the women is the second. Oh I got you too. Additional more traditional, less feminist trash like we have in this country. Woman, So when is the when's the trajectory for this. Uh exit directory's retirement? So when is that about twenty years? You don't have that kind of time man mathematically. Speak, Okay, I might, I might be to insulate myself well enough in too. Now I think you need I think you need to leave immediately. Well, it's still you're still I'm still making more money here than I would make in places like that's hard to get jobs over there. What do you think is going to happen? So? Okay, so you've heard me probably say this before, Like it's the sort of like the preference cascade is an example of it, but slowly at first and then very quickly. Right we're sinking ship. Okay, so not really, but like slowly at first and then very quickly. That's the way collapse occurs. It, you know, happens very very slowly over time, and then all of a sudden boom that collapses and everybody's like, how did this happen? But it was happening slowly at first. And so my fear for you is that you wanting to to head to Thailand or wherever that You're you're gonna get caught in the second part of that that very rapidly. So you're going to be coasting along. You're be making all your money and you're gonna be putting it away and you're like, I got my exit plan and then all of a sudden boom, everything collapses and you're not going to be able to get out. Well, plans can't change. I mean I can. That's what I'm saying. You probably need to get out a sap. Eh, it's it's still too good here now. We still have too good of a life here and still too. No, but it's all going. But you don't know when it's going to end. You know it's going to end, right, so you know. Enough to see when it's gonna We can watch and see what's happening. You won't know that, Yeah, we will. I mean I know you. Already think it's happening now. So that's that's what I'm saying. Slowly at first, and then very quickly. You don't know that very quickly could happen tomorrow. Well, then tomorrow will be the day I'm out of here. You're not gonna that's my point though, You're not going to be able to get because if everything collapses, you're not going to be able to get out because you're not going to be the only one that wants to flee. There's gonna be a lot of people that are gonna want to flee. Yeah, but they're not gonna have a kind of money I got. So you have it right now, So why not do it right now so you don't end up having because what's going to happen if you have you know, right now, there's not a lot of people that are going to be competing with you to get the flight to tail end right now. But if everything collapses next week, you're going to have way more people that are going to be competing with you for the limited supply of flights and whatnot. So you're you're not going to have that kind of opportunity. So what you could be right and I could be stuck here and I just got to deal with those repercussions. Yeah I can't. I'm willing to take for more money, for more money and for the time I have with my friends and family here. Have you ever heard of Thomas pain Uh, I've heard of him. Yeah, there was a point in the Revolutionary War where we were really getting just pounded by the British. Washington had been chased off of Long Island, he was in retreat. I mean it was not good, right, we were. It was a very bad time. People were like, we're going to lose this war, you know, to the British and all of that. And Thomas Pain wrote a pamphlet, because that's what Thomas Pain did. He wrote common Sense initially, and he wrote another pamphlet called the American Crisis Number one. And this was at the lowest depth of the Revolutionary War. And you've probably heard this term when I say it when he started off the pamphlet, these are the times that try men's souls. You've heard that, right, Yeah, right, that's where it comes from Thomas Pain. These are the times that try men's souls. He goes on to say, the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will in this crisis shrink from the service of their country. But he that stands by it now deserves the love and thanks of man and women. Tyranny like hell, is not easily conquered. Yet we have this consolation with us that the heart of the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly. So I wish you the best in your your travels, but I recommend you leave immediately. But also yeah, yeah yeah, but also because you are a demoralization agent among your citizens. That's true. I have probably demoralized. Right, and so I want you so I would prefer you to leave because you're not healthy. Yeah yeah, so you should go like immediately, and you should not do so okay. Much, I did moralize this country. It's finished so right, So why then do you hate the country so much? Cont provides me better financial benefits than any other place on this planet right now that I can get to. Right, So it's all about you. Country be damn right, Country be damned Now. I got you. You are You are the summer Soldier. Thank you. I appreciate the call. Craig. You are the summer Soldier, the sunshine patriot. When times get tough, Craig will flee, and he will leave everybody else, and he will demoralize everybody before he flees. He will try to bring everybody down, make everybody think all is lost. Speaks with such assurance and certainty. But here's the thing, Craig does not actually know the future, nor do I. But I don't make predictions about the future. But I can look around and say, like, yeah, we are in this slowly at first. But that is not a reason to stop. It's not a reason to give up. It's not a reason to be the summer soldier, the sunshine patriot who in crisis shrinks from the service of their country because tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. Nobody promised that this is easy. This is the like, this is the challenge of self governing. And if the challenge is too great, leave, and you know, stop demoralizing your fellow citizens from trying to fix things and make a difference, Like, really, how dare you do that? You don't even love the country enough to stay and help fix it, but you're gonna drag everybody down to convince them not to fix it. All right. For over a year now, you've heard me talking about Create a Video, great local company in mint Hill that has helped more than two million families preserve their memories by turning old photo VHS, tapes, film reels and slides into lasting keepsakes, now creative videos, helping families and groups create brand new memories while they're traveling. Introducing group travel videos perfect for family reunions, church mission trips, group vacations, destination weddings, student trips, senior adult groups, sports teams, I mean, really any gathering of people that you care about that's traveling together. 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You can email Katie Katie at group travel videos dot com. Group travel videos from old memories to new adventures, preserving life's moments for a lifetime. Yeah, we have a lot of texts and we have a call here from Ralph in response to Craig's blackpilling. Hello Ralph, Welcome to the show. Hey Pete, Hey man. I would like to ask Craig what would be the one thing that he would get in a. Trench and fight for. I mean, uh, you know, to stay. In this country. You know, you know when you pined him down about leaving now, he said, oh no, no, I'm making way too much money. But you know, I guess that's just the spinless type of attitude to have. Though, when you do get back in a corner, you you revert back there say well, I'm I'm gonna stay. But yeah, I mean, uh, it's sad. But anyway, he sounded like he didn't have any. Children or any any calls to leave this this great country. That we get. Yeah, I don't know, I could have asked him. You know, it sounded like he wasn't married, because he said he wanted to go over to southeast Asia so he can get chicks. Yeah, and I and you know, he throwed he threw in the uh, you know, white male thing and we're the only ones that will save this country. Whatever it was that he was saying on that. But then he's like, I'm leaving, and I'm going to demoralize as many people as i can before I leave. It's like, well, then, how are you, as a white dude, doing anything to like I didn't make it racial? He did. I don't agree with it, by the way, but he uh so he's saying that. But then on the other end, he's like, yeah, but I'm I'm leaving. See a lot of the a lot of time this is a lot of this is born on the internet, and it's just these people who are in the chat rooms together or in their social media feeds and stuff, and it's just an excuse to be lazy and not have to try to fix anything. Right. And it sounds like he doesn't have he doesn't have a wife, because he said he wanted to go over to there, you know, for the for the Asian women or whatever. And I don't know if that's because like he has some expectation and if he goes over there with all of his American dollars. Then he'll be more likely to find a mate or something. I don't know, but yeah, just it. It's it has always struck me, the black pillars. They strike me as as lazy, and it's like, yo, you know, you're we're the only ones to save the country. So like he wants some credit there for for being a patriot. But then he's like, but I'm gonna get out and you know, screw it. I'm not even gonna try to fix it. I'm not even gonna try to help. I'm just gonna blackpill myself and I'm gonna I'm gonna push black pills on everybody I know, to demoralize everybody around me. I don't I don't get it. It can never be an entrepreneur, you know. Oh that's a good point. I don't know. Yeah, entrepreneurs are everyone I've ever met are optimists, you know, and black pilling is pessimism taken to an extreme. So yeah, he probably could not be. I don't know. But I don't know, and I you know, and I'm not trying to disparage Craig. I find like I find his uh, his disposition on this his attitude to be gross and destructive, but I mean, I wish the best for him, and I really do believe that if he is this certain that everything is lost, all is lost, and you know he's he's way, you know, he's already you know, taken up residents in black Pillville, that he needs to get out as soon as possible because you don't know when the collapse will happen, and if it does happen, then all of his plans are for naught, you know. All right by to you too, Thanks, Ralph, I appreciate the call. All right Over on the text line, Terry says, this lady would love to see Craig leave, and tim Oteo says, I don't think many countries are going to do very well if the US falls or fails. Rather, even in bad times, the US is the place to be. Yeah, that's the thing too. If if America collapses, that has global impact. Also, I'm not so sure that Southeast Asia is the place you want to be in a global collapse, because I'm not sure. As I said in the first hour, we as Americans, it is our birthright, it's enshrined in the Constitution that we do not need to know geography, but I have it on good authority that Southeast Asia is pretty close to China. And I also have some sources who have told me that the Communist China Party in Power, the COMMIE, is over there, the CCP, that they are very interested in taking over a bunch of the neighboring countries, particularly the Philippines. So you might want to Craig might want to rule that one out right, because they've already been They've been harassing like Philippine you know, fishermen, fishing boats and stuff like that. So like there's already some tension around the Philippines. I'm not so sure about Thailand, but I do remember them being in the news about sixty years ago or something. There was some bad stuff that happened in Thailand with the with the Commis. But anyway, so that's I mean, it's a very long flight, very very long flight, and in a global collapse. Yeah, I'm not sure that you know, being in a impoverished Southeast Asian country neighboring China, I'm not sure that's the best plan, but you know, to each their own again, I would just recommend that you head on over there as early as possible, so you don't get caught, you know, I mean, you don't get caught unable to flee. If that's your plan. Let's see, you're just clearing out the massages. Robin says, as I listened to you speak, I wanted to share something as a mom who, I guess maybe fought through years of rhetoric at my older son's school and then eventually pulled my second grader out of his school, recognizing the activism was targeting younger and younger kids. My biggest pet peeve are parents who just shrug and say this is just the way it is now, so they have blackpilled on their children. Yeah. Nick Fredis talks about this. He's a podcast or former state assemblyman, state lawmaker up in Virginia, and yeah, he talks about this. That like demographically, and this is to Craig's point earlier as well. You know, the way to reverse this stuff is for conservatives, who they have Conservatives have more kids than lefties do. That's the data. So if conservatives were to just continue on that current trajectory, keep having you know, four or five kids, but homeschool like you could live, really take the country back and change the course of the nation within a generation or two. Right like that seems pretty doable, and you get to have fun in the meantime, Right like that's I she says. I understand that they would teach them the right things at home, But when you don't speak up against the school for spreading garbage to little kids, you're almost guaranteeing that the majority of the classroom will shape the world that your child will have to live in. I do not want to kick the can down the road for my kids and grandchildren to deal with. I homeschooled until we could afford a private Christian school that's on board with teaching, just teaching the kids. Yeah, Mike or Lisa, I don't know, says you killing me with better leave now. I'm look, I'm offering the best advice I can give. And sometimes when people have have chowed down on so many black pills that there's no coming back, and that does happen, right, because you know Limbo used to talk about this, I quoted often where you know, pessimism is sort of the natural state of man, which makes sense from a survival instinct point of view. Right if you're always on guard for the worst thing to happen, then you know, chances are you're more likely to survive when a bad thing does happen. Right, Optimism is a choice. I was not born the sunny optimist you hear before you right now. This is something that I've had to work on for literally years to become more optimistic. It's a mindset and the more you do it, the easier it becomes, and then you'll be amazed at how much better your life feels. I highly encourage it. But some people they go so far down that path there isn't any real coming back, you know, And so if this is what's his plan is, then like there's no way to know when the collapse occurs. And look, I don't like I don't sugarcoat this stuff. I'm not being Pollyannish here and saying that everything is fine. I'm not saying that I've talked about the fourth turning, these cycles of twenty to twenty five years, and that we are now in the fourth turning. Right Neil Howe's book, I've brought stuff from his podcast to this show because people do need to be aware of the truth of what's really going on. Right, So I bring this information to you it's not to blackpill people. It's to understand the challenge, the reality of the situation so as to best address it. Right. It's not to say all is lost, Quite the contrary. It's that this stuff can be fixed, this stuff can be fought. Evil is always around, It will always be with us. People think that can flee evil and it won't follow you to another location. Right. We are as Americans and trusted with this responsibility from our forefathers. And that might not mean anything to somebody. But all I'm asking is, like, it doesn't have to for you if I'm not saying you you, but like if if Craig doesn't feel any kind of connection to all of the people that sacrificed for, you know, hundreds of years to preserve and protect this thing, this self governance model, right, Okay, all I ask is that you don't demoralize everybody around you. Don't aid in the tearing down when your plan is to leave. That's not cool, right. If you're gonna leave and you're just squirreling away money enough so you'll have enough money to I don't know, buy as many brides in Thailand as you can, well, fine, do me a favor, though, do us all a favor and kind of zip the lip on on your demoralization. It's not helpful, it's not cool. Greg says, I've always respected the people that don't flee their third world countries because they believe in trying to make it better or just because it's home. I feel the same for people that are black pillars that will never stop trying to improve their country, no matter how bleak things look. Nine to eight zero number says, dude is a coward leaving the country instead of fighting to save it. Such a wimp. Let me see the hellio, Heley, I don't you can't keep spamming me like this, Helly, and I love you, but it's I don't know where to go to start reading in the thread chain because all I'm seeing is I gotta scroll back up, and you're just blitzing out like fragments and sentences and stuff. So John says the caller should read the works of Thomas Paine. He could use some common sense. That's why I quoted to him the You know, these are the times that Trimn's souls. No one said self governance is easy. It was never done before us, Right, this was that's the thing that made us exceptional. So like it's on us to prove that this thing can still work. The answer is not to abandon it and surrender the field. You surrender this, my gosh, then where do you flee to if you think there's any place that won't be overrun in the absence of American power. We know the US is still great when the people who complain about and run down the place still stay. Yeah, that's true. Just you should leave. Oh no, no, I got to make all the money. There's better place. Oh okay, so there is something valuable here, yeah, but only until I get mine and then I'm out. Craig says that Craig is a bad example for Craigs. I excommunicate him from the Craigs. Okay, so this is the different Craig. He doesn't have the money to leave. That's why he is staying. Everybody moans and groans about how bad it is, Hank says, but when it comes to standing up for what is right, they just run away like cowards. Maurice says, Craig is the perfect example of the quote good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. Right, and it does make you wonder was there anything great about America? Was there anything exceptional about this country that is worth fighting for? For? A black pillar right, Don says, I greatly appreciate your state ants on the guy that wants to go to Thailand. I like you believe that we as Americans owe it to those that are pushing us in the socialist direction. Educate them and stay here to defend what we have. We as Americans need to be more vocal and not cow taw to those that scream above us. We need to educate them to understand what Thomas Jefferson said over two hundred years ago. A government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have. And that is exactly right over on the text line. I had a follow up text here from Craig who called earlier in the hour and we talked about his plan to get out of the country, and he says, Pete, it's Craig again. I honestly think that you are more in line with my beliefs than you are willing to admit. I don't know what that means, Craig. I mean I talk about things that I believe all the time. I don't know what you believe, But in the narrow scope of our conversation, no, I don't think that we had a lot in line with the beliefs, because what we were talking about was sort of an attitude, a posture, a way of thinking. And I am not in line with your way of thinking. I am not a black pillar, okay. And I've said this before. One of the antidotes to black pilling is gratitude, looking around your life and identifying things for which to be grateful and being intentional about it, like specifically naming things in your life that you are grateful for. There is also another aspect to counteracting black pilling, which is to improve yourself. Whatever it is in your life that has got you down, recognize that you have agency and you can do something to fix that, to address that, to improve that or whatever. And this is why people, you know, they call it the horseshoe right because or the woke right, because these people are adopting the same sort of worldview outlook that the left has, the woke left has, which is that somebody else is responsible for my problems, right. And what that does, though, is it robs people of agency. You have the ability to improve your life. You also have the ability to improve your family's life, your community's life, your city, your county, your state. Right, people do this all the time. They get involved, they sacrifice, right that, And that's really that's why I say black pilling is lazy because it's an excuse. It's like, oh, nothing matters, So therefore I'm absolved of having to make any kind of sacrifice, of having to donate any time or money towards a cause or something to improving something. I don't have to do anything. I just want somebody else to do it. This is the Homer Simpson campaign pledge of can't someone else do it? Right? You're you're off floating responsibility and look that it's difficult. And here's the thing. You know, you're you're you're going to try to make some changes. Maybe you're gonna, you know, work on a campaign, or you're going to volunteer your time or whatever. And you may not be successful. It may not work. There's no guarantee, right, but it could work. You could be successful. You don't know if you don't try. But blackpilling robs you of the motivation to even try. And that's what's really so disgusting to me about it is that you got people being told that, why bother even trying? There's no point to even trying. Okay, let me get back to his text message. Why do you think all of the uber wealthy are getting dual citizenships and other country as a safety net. It's just that the majority of your audience is of geriatric age and grew up in a different America and can't see it for what it is now. They are going to waive the flag till the end, no matter how bad it is, but their ends are always a few years away anyhow, because they're so old. You can't be open about your stance or you will be out of a job because your audience will not agree with you. Once again, Craig, you are ascribing knowledge to things that you don't have. You first off, you don't know the audience demographics because I have two audiences minimum. I have the radio audience and then I have my podcast audience. So you don't know the audience demographics. I guarantee you that number one number two. So I'm guessing by this text I should have asked your age or what generation you are of, maybe a zoomer gen z or a millennial. He said twenty years, So yeah, maybe a millennial. So I'm guessing a millennial. And here's the thing. There is no generation that has been without challenges. Every generation has had these things, all of them. So there's nothing unique about specific challenges or nothing unique about challenges to a generation. The only difference is what those challenges may be. Right, And if you are listening to people that tell you the challenges are insurmountable or unsolvable, whatever, then like, how did all of the other generations overcome their obstacles? Challenges are nothing new geopolitical strife, I mean my parents' generation, Like I had a draft to go fight in World or in Vietnam in Southeast Asia, right, so like we don't have a draft right now. I'm grateful that we don't have a draft. Right. There were always things like this going on. And no, I don't say things, or don't say things because my audience will get me fired or whatever, doesn't even come into my thinking. I just tell you that I read the news, I talk about the topics, and I look at these cultural issues and the larger philosophical issues, and I tell you what I think. Now, if the audience doesn't want to hear what I think about this stuff, then so be it. Then I'll be out of job, and that's the breaks. That's fine. I'll just keep doing my podcast, which I was very successful doing. I'm okay with that. I'd prefer to be on the radio two. But if for some reason nobody wants to hear Pete talking about how great America is, okay, then I'll just do it on the podcast. I'm fine with that too. See. So I think you think you know a lot more things than you actually do. And all I would say is in order to maybe have a better outlook on things, and seriously like you'll have a better frame of mind, you will just look around and express gratitude for certain things that you have in your life. Right, that's a good first step. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. 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