Billions of records hacked - including social security numbers (08-28-2024--Hour3)
The Pete Kaliner ShowAugust 28, 202400:27:1424.98 MB

Billions of records hacked - including social security numbers (08-28-2024--Hour3)

If you haven't frozen your credit - freeze it. If you haven't enlisted an identity protection and monitoring service - get one. A database with billions of records was reportedly hacked and the records were stolen. Industry experts expect a tsunami of identity theft to follow.

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[00:00:29] So the other day, I saw an article out of the LA Times. And I have a prep sheet that I keep. It's a Google document. And I put all of the links to articles that I come across that I think, oh, this could be good show material. And I put it in there. It's somewhere in the neighborhood of about 30 or 40 pages at this point of just links. So I feel like I overprep sometimes.

[00:00:55] Anyway, this story was headlined 2.9 billion records possibly leaked in data breach. And that is a billion. That's 2.9 billion. So 3 billion records possibly leaked. I can confirm personally, that is true.

[00:01:18] Okay, I got my notice that, hey, all your stuff now belongs to the dark web. Congratulations. And not just your email. That's part of it. Not just your birth date. That's part of it. Not just your phone number. That's part of it. But your social security number too.

[00:01:39] How did they get all of this information from 2.9 billion people? Have you ever heard of the National Public Data database? National Public Data. It's not NPR. It offers personal information to employers, private investigators, staffing agencies through doing background checks.

[00:02:08] So I have a suspicion that when I applied for a job somewhere along the line and they did a background check on me, that put my information into that database. And now it got hacked.

[00:02:23] And so now I had to go and freeze all my credit. I had to go and, you know, they did not get passwords and stuff, but you got my email, you got my phone number. And so they can go and open up credit cards, take out loans, right?

[00:02:38] Because starting up a new account is the real threat. Accessing accounts that I have already created and I have password protection and all that, that's harder to get around, harder to beat. It can be beaten.

[00:02:55] This is why I always prefer to make virtually no money so I can't get ripped off that much. That's usually how I avoid getting scammed.

[00:03:10] They're like, hey, Pete, we want to offer you a million dollars a year. And I say, no, no, no, that's insane. I will not take it. I don't want to get robbed.

[00:03:18] So about this is from the L.A. Times. This was from August 13th. So, by the way, if you subscribe to any credit monitoring programs, you should you should go take a look.

[00:03:30] If they haven't already alerted you, if you haven't seen an email come in or something, you should go take a look.

[00:03:35] You should have a monitoring program that scans the dark web for your information.

[00:03:43] So here's the L.A. Times. Again, this was from two weeks ago and I was notified. I saw it.

[00:03:51] Two days ago. So, yeah, that's what I've been doing on my downtime, locking everything down, you know, as much as I can, double checking everything.

[00:04:00] Yeah, it's been fun. Anyway, about four months after a notorious hacking group claimed to have stolen an extraordinary amount of sensitive personal information from a major data broker,

[00:04:11] a member of that group, the hacking group, released most of it for free on an online marketplace for stolen personal data.

[00:04:21] The breach, which includes Social Security numbers and other sensitive data, could power a raft of identity theft, fraud and other crimes.

[00:04:31] Oh, one of the other things I get to do, I get to go down to the Social Security Administration office to try to report it to them.

[00:04:39] Because when you go to the Social Security Administration website, this may come as a shock to you, it being a GovCo website and all.

[00:04:47] But there's no place on that website to report your number has been compromised.

[00:04:52] Apparently, you've got to go down in person, but only during the select hours where you could actually, like, go into the office.

[00:05:03] It's not on a weekend either. I mean, come on.

[00:05:07] But doesn't that seem like something I would think?

[00:05:09] That seems like something that you should be able to have a form right there on the website, given the, not just this hack, but all hacks.

[00:05:19] Like, it seems to me like that would be a good service to offer.

[00:05:22] Just giving it to you.

[00:05:23] If anybody at the Social Security Administration is listening, here's an idea.

[00:05:29] Just spitball in here.

[00:05:30] You know, I'm all about solutions, so just take it.

[00:05:33] I don't even need credit, but just, you know, have something there on the website right there like, hey, my Social Security number has been compromised.

[00:05:41] Report it here.

[00:05:42] Boom.

[00:05:42] And then you could, you can click on a link, fill out a form, and submit it that way.

[00:05:49] Teresa Murray is a Consumer Watchdog Director for the U.S. Public Interest Research Group, or PIRG, which, by the way, if you are interested in getting information and all of the links on how to go about protecting yourself, you can go check out their website, PIRG, Public Interest Research Group, PIRG.

[00:06:13] If you do not have a credit monitoring or an identity monitoring product or service, you should really get one.

[00:06:23] Seriously.

[00:06:24] In fact, it's even worse, she says, if you have, like, let's say you have a credit card and you never set up a, your online profile for that credit card, you're actually at greater risk.

[00:06:41] Because they, once they have your, if they got an email account, they've got your Social Security number, and they've got a phone number, and your birth date, they can basically go in and create that account.

[00:06:54] And you wouldn't even know.

[00:06:57] If this, in fact, is pretty much the whole dossier on all of us, she says, it certainly is much more concerning than prior breaches.

[00:07:05] And if people weren't taking precautions in the past, which they should have been doing, this should be a five alarm wake up call for them.

[00:07:13] Once again, 2.9 billion records.

[00:07:19] According to a class action lawsuit that was filed in the U.S. District Court in Florida, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, the hacking group USDOD claimed in April to have stolen personal records of 2.9 billion people from national public data.

[00:07:35] The group offered in a forum for hackers to sell the data, which included records from the United States, Canada, and the U.K. for three and a half million dollars.

[00:07:46] The lawsuit was first reported by Bloomberg Law.

[00:07:49] National public data did not respond to a request for comment, nor has it formally notified people about the alleged breach, which inspires a lot of confidence.

[00:08:03] They did put out an email response that said, we are aware of certain third party claims and we are investigating these issues.

[00:08:12] Meanwhile, my service has already identified my information as being part of the dump.

[00:08:20] So national public data probably going to go belly up, probably going to get sued into oblivion.

[00:08:28] The leak purports to provide much of the information that banks and insurance companies and service providers seek when creating accounts and when granting a request to change your password on an existing account.

[00:08:43] Right?

[00:08:43] So they could try to spoof you going into your account and say, oh yeah, this is Pete.

[00:08:49] I would like to change my password.

[00:08:53] And then they're like, okay, we'll give us some identifying information.

[00:08:56] Oh, look at that.

[00:08:57] They have the last four of your social.

[00:08:59] Oh, look at that.

[00:09:00] They've got your phone number.

[00:09:03] She said that bad actors could do all kinds of things with the leaked information.

[00:09:07] The most worrisome probably being tried to take over somebody's accounts, including those associated with your bank, any investments, your retirement and stuff, insurance policies.

[00:09:19] As well as your email.

[00:09:21] With your name and social security number, date of birth and mailing address, a fraudster could create fake accounts in your name or try to talk someone into resetting the password on one of your existing accounts.

[00:09:33] You should go to the three credit bureaus.

[00:09:38] TransUnion, Experian and Equifax.

[00:09:42] Go to those three and freeze your credit.

[00:09:45] It is free.

[00:09:47] Okay?

[00:09:47] It's free.

[00:09:48] You have to create an account, but it's free to freeze your account, which means nobody can run a credit check on you because it'll be frozen.

[00:09:58] It'll bounce back.

[00:09:59] So nobody can take out stuff in your name.

[00:10:02] Twitter account is at Pete Callender.

[00:10:05] I received a message from Eric.

[00:10:07] It's a Pete tweet.

[00:10:08] Eric says, anyone who has not frozen their credit should freeze their credit.

[00:10:14] It is free.

[00:10:15] It is free.

[00:10:16] And you can thaw.

[00:10:17] You can thaw your credit online if you need to apply for a loan.

[00:10:21] So you would do that.

[00:10:22] It's a thaw.

[00:10:23] So it's temporary.

[00:10:24] So if you're like, oh, I need to buy a car.

[00:10:26] I got to go get a mortgage or another credit card or whatever.

[00:10:31] You're going to have a credit check.

[00:10:32] You can thaw it for a certain amount of time for a window.

[00:10:36] And then the credit check can be run.

[00:10:39] And then it relocks.

[00:10:41] It refreezes.

[00:10:42] You can also unfreeze it.

[00:10:44] And it's very easy.

[00:10:45] I did this myself.

[00:10:46] It's very easy.

[00:10:48] Your credit, Eric says, your credit should always be frozen unless you're applying for more credit.

[00:10:55] And you can do this at the websites Experian, Equifax, and TransUnion.

[00:11:04] According to the LA Times, this data breach, they say a few key pieces appearing to be missing from the hackers hole.

[00:11:13] But look, it doesn't matter at this point because if they've scooped up your stuff from other places, it didn't have to be in this particular hack.

[00:11:20] So one is email addresses.

[00:11:24] Another is driver's license or passport photos, which some governmental agencies rely on to verify identities.

[00:11:31] If you think that your Social Security number or other important identifying information about you has been leaked,

[00:11:38] you should put a freeze on your credit files through the major credit bureaus.

[00:11:45] You can do it for free, as I mentioned.

[00:11:51] PIRG, they've got a step-by-step guide to credit freezes.

[00:11:55] So you can read that first.

[00:11:56] You can sign up.

[00:11:57] You should sign up for a service that monitors your accounts on the dark web to guard against identity theft.

[00:12:05] Some of these are free, but obviously the more that they do, then they charge a fee for that if they do more.

[00:12:14] This may stop people from opening new accounts, but the Times reports that it's not going to help protecting existing accounts.

[00:12:22] Oddly enough, those accounts are especially vulnerable to identity thieves if you haven't signed up for online access to them

[00:12:29] because it's easier for thieves to create a login and a password while pretending to be you than it is for them to crack your existing login and password.

[00:12:37] You can also use password manager apps, right, that give you the crazy, really long passwords.

[00:12:44] They generate auto passwords, and then they store them in the cloud, which I'm sure will at some point get hacked too.

[00:12:55] You can get them for free.

[00:12:56] Apple's iCloud keychain does it.

[00:12:58] Other services do it for a fee.

[00:13:01] Also set up two-factor authentication, which is, you know, we're going to send you a text message with a code,

[00:13:07] and then that lets you log in, right, so that's the two-factor.

[00:13:10] Then there's also authenticator apps that you can use, same sort of idea.

[00:13:16] That'll keep you secure even if your phone number gets hijacked by scammers because they can do that as well.

[00:13:26] I think I'm just going back to paper ballots here.

[00:13:29] I have a message from Russ on Twitter who says,

[00:13:33] No money, bad credit is the best identity theft prevention possible.

[00:13:38] That's, yeah, no money, bad credit.

[00:13:42] Nobody wants you.

[00:13:45] Breaking news, Donald Trump plans to name his former rival, RFK Jr., and Tulsi Gabbard, a one-time Democrat,

[00:13:51] as honorary co-chairs of his presidential transition team that will help him select policies and personnel.

[00:13:59] Interesting.

[00:14:02] Also, today is National Bowtie Day.

[00:14:06] John says,

[00:14:08] I don't think bow ties count when it's part of a tuxedo,

[00:14:11] but even then they look the coolest when they are untied and just hanging around your neck with the open collar.

[00:14:18] The news also pointed out that Donald Duck wears a bow tie,

[00:14:21] but he also doesn't wear pants,

[00:14:23] so I guess that's a combination I could get behind.

[00:14:28] I actually went and looked this up because I wasn't sure.

[00:14:31] I thought,

[00:14:32] Is that an ascot that Donald Duck wears?

[00:14:34] No, in fact, it is a bow tie.

[00:14:36] But what threw me off was the fact that he's wearing, like, a beret,

[00:14:42] but more importantly,

[00:14:44] what appears to be some sort of, like,

[00:14:46] a Navy shirt,

[00:14:48] like the uniform of the Navy service members,

[00:14:52] you know?

[00:14:53] Why would you wear a bow tie with that?

[00:14:56] That's just weird.

[00:14:58] Was Donald Duck French?

[00:15:00] I could never understand him,

[00:15:02] so I don't know.

[00:15:04] A North Carolina racetrack,

[00:15:08] Ace Speedway.

[00:15:09] Remember these guys?

[00:15:10] That got shut down because they defied Governor Cooper,

[00:15:14] my good friend Ray,

[00:15:16] during the pandemic about the limits

[00:15:19] of how many people they could pack into the stands.

[00:15:22] An outdoor racetrack.

[00:15:24] Remember this?

[00:15:25] They defied state gathering limits

[00:15:28] during the pandemic.

[00:15:30] A North Carolina court has said

[00:15:34] they can sue the top health regulator

[00:15:37] on allegations that Governor Roy Cooper's administration

[00:15:41] violated the constitutional rights of its operators

[00:15:44] by trying to make an example out of it.

[00:15:46] The state Supreme Court ruled this on Friday.

[00:15:49] The justices agreed unanimously

[00:15:51] that counterclaims that Ace Speedway in Alamance County

[00:15:56] and its owners

[00:15:57] filed seeking financial damages can continue.

[00:16:00] The lawsuit that they filed can continue.

[00:16:03] They agreed with a court of appeals panel ruling in 2022

[00:16:06] and a trial judge

[00:16:08] that refused to throw the lawsuit out.

[00:16:12] That lawsuit was filed just weeks

[00:16:14] after a judge in 2020

[00:16:17] helped enforce

[00:16:20] Mandy Cohen's order.

[00:16:21] Mandy Cohen,

[00:16:22] who was the Health and Human Services Secretary

[00:16:24] at the time,

[00:16:25] now she leads the CDC,

[00:16:27] right?

[00:16:27] Biden tapped her to be the CDC director.

[00:16:30] But at the time,

[00:16:31] she was North Carolina's

[00:16:33] HHS Secretary.

[00:16:35] And a judge in 2020

[00:16:40] allowed enforcement of an order

[00:16:42] to stop the track

[00:16:43] from holding events

[00:16:45] unless the track operators

[00:16:48] complied with Governor Cooper's

[00:16:50] statewide executive order

[00:16:51] that included crowd size limits.

[00:16:55] And so the racetrack sued.

[00:16:57] Think about that.

[00:16:58] Four years ago.

[00:16:59] Four and a half years

[00:17:00] this case has been working its way

[00:17:02] through the courts.

[00:17:04] This is not

[00:17:06] this is not speedy justice,

[00:17:09] you know?

[00:17:10] State lawyers representing Cody Kinsley

[00:17:13] who took over

[00:17:14] after Mandy Cohen left.

[00:17:16] He's now the HHS Secretary.

[00:17:18] And his lawyers argued

[00:17:21] and I'm assuming

[00:17:22] that's probably

[00:17:23] the Attorney General's office

[00:17:24] representing the state agency.

[00:17:27] His lawyers argued

[00:17:28] that the Speedway was cited

[00:17:29] because it repeatedly

[00:17:31] and publicly violated the law

[00:17:33] and that sovereign immunity

[00:17:34] blocks such litigation

[00:17:36] against a state official.

[00:17:38] They also said

[00:17:39] that COVID-19 gathering limits

[00:17:41] were just temporary

[00:17:43] just until you go out of business

[00:17:45] and served a proper governmental purpose

[00:17:48] to protect the public

[00:17:49] during the early

[00:17:50] and uncertain stages

[00:17:52] of an unprecedented

[00:17:53] global pandemic.

[00:17:55] We were just doing

[00:17:55] the best we could.

[00:17:57] But we knew

[00:17:58] that's the thing.

[00:17:59] We knew from the beginning

[00:18:00] that it really wasn't

[00:18:01] transmissible outside.

[00:18:04] We knew that

[00:18:05] proper ventilation

[00:18:07] you know wind

[00:18:08] a fourth W

[00:18:10] that I

[00:18:11] kept on saying

[00:18:12] they should add

[00:18:13] a fourth W

[00:18:14] to the three W's

[00:18:15] washing your hands

[00:18:16] waiting six feet apart

[00:18:18] wearing a mask

[00:18:20] throw in wind

[00:18:22] throw in a fourth W

[00:18:24] create some wind

[00:18:25] some ventilation

[00:18:26] through the space.

[00:18:27] I knew that.

[00:18:28] I'm not a scientist.

[00:18:29] I'm no epidemiologist

[00:18:30] or HHS secretary

[00:18:32] but I knew that

[00:18:34] because I went and researched

[00:18:36] and found out

[00:18:37] like oh look at that

[00:18:37] it's a respiratory virus

[00:18:39] and then

[00:18:39] if you create ventilation

[00:18:41] it moves the

[00:18:42] micro droplets

[00:18:43] that get suspended

[00:18:44] in air

[00:18:44] because they're lighter

[00:18:45] than air

[00:18:45] they get suspended

[00:18:46] and then people

[00:18:47] you know

[00:18:47] breathe in

[00:18:48] other people's lung juice

[00:18:50] and they get infected.

[00:18:51] So if you

[00:18:52] clear the space out

[00:18:53] with some wind

[00:18:54] some proper ventilation

[00:18:55] then

[00:18:56] you minimize transmission.

[00:18:58] So if you're doing

[00:18:59] a race

[00:19:00] outside

[00:19:02] chances are

[00:19:03] you're not going

[00:19:04] to be transmitting

[00:19:05] the virus.

[00:19:07] but the Supreme Court

[00:19:09] agreed

[00:19:09] the Speedway's attorney

[00:19:11] made plausible

[00:19:12] legal claims

[00:19:13] that the state

[00:19:14] had infringed

[00:19:15] on the rights

[00:19:16] for people

[00:19:16] to enjoy

[00:19:17] the fruits

[00:19:17] of their own labor

[00:19:18] that is in the Constitution

[00:19:19] as a matter of fact

[00:19:20] and conducted

[00:19:21] unlawful

[00:19:22] selective enforcement

[00:19:23] of its order

[00:19:24] against the Speedway.

[00:19:26] Now

[00:19:26] the substance

[00:19:27] of those claims

[00:19:28] have not yet

[00:19:28] been judged in court

[00:19:29] but that's the allegation

[00:19:31] coming from the Speedway

[00:19:32] that this wasn't just

[00:19:33] you know

[00:19:34] you're in violation

[00:19:35] so we're going to cite you

[00:19:36] it was political

[00:19:38] as well

[00:19:38] that there was more

[00:19:40] to the enforcement

[00:19:41] action

[00:19:41] than simply

[00:19:42] you're

[00:19:44] disobeying us

[00:19:45] it's that

[00:19:46] you're disobeying us

[00:19:47] and a lot of people

[00:19:48] know about it.

[00:19:50] Alright hey real quick

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[00:20:19] the Associated Press

[00:20:21] reports

[00:20:21] about the Supreme

[00:20:23] Court

[00:20:24] saying that

[00:20:25] Ace Speedway

[00:20:26] in Alamance County

[00:20:27] can sue

[00:20:29] the top health

[00:20:31] official in the

[00:20:32] state over the

[00:20:32] COVID-19 closure

[00:20:34] of the racetrack

[00:20:35] right

[00:20:36] three days

[00:20:38] back in May

[00:20:40] of 2020

[00:20:40] three days

[00:20:41] after Roy Cooper

[00:20:42] my good friend

[00:20:43] Ray

[00:20:44] issued an

[00:20:45] executive order

[00:20:46] or his

[00:20:48] emergency

[00:20:48] declaration

[00:20:49] or as I call it

[00:20:51] Roy's ED

[00:20:53] he put a

[00:20:54] 25 person

[00:20:55] cap

[00:20:56] on all

[00:20:57] outdoor

[00:20:58] gatherings

[00:20:58] this is why

[00:20:59] if somebody

[00:21:00] you loved

[00:21:01] passed away

[00:21:02] from COVID

[00:21:04] right

[00:21:04] at first

[00:21:05] you weren't even

[00:21:06] allowed to

[00:21:06] like you couldn't

[00:21:07] go to the

[00:21:08] hospital

[00:21:08] you couldn't

[00:21:09] go into the

[00:21:10] room with them

[00:21:11] be with them

[00:21:11] as they died

[00:21:12] you couldn't

[00:21:12] do that

[00:21:13] you went to

[00:21:14] a funeral

[00:21:15] they tried to

[00:21:16] move them

[00:21:16] outside

[00:21:17] they started

[00:21:17] shutting down

[00:21:18] churches

[00:21:18] that were

[00:21:18] holding

[00:21:19] services

[00:21:19] outside

[00:21:20] like really

[00:21:21] at a point

[00:21:21] I would

[00:21:22] contend

[00:21:24] at a point

[00:21:25] where people

[00:21:26] really needed

[00:21:26] to feel

[00:21:27] connected

[00:21:28] to other

[00:21:28] humans

[00:21:29] and to

[00:21:30] lean heavily

[00:21:31] on their

[00:21:32] faith

[00:21:34] and so of

[00:21:35] course

[00:21:35] governments

[00:21:35] shut all

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[00:21:36] can't have

[00:21:37] that going

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[00:21:37] so Ace

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[00:21:41] blew through

[00:21:42] the 25

[00:21:42] person

[00:21:43] cap

[00:21:44] when they

[00:21:45] hosted a

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[00:21:47] approximately

[00:21:48] 2,500

[00:21:50] spectators

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[00:21:55] the 25

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[00:21:55] the racetrack

[00:21:57] operator

[00:21:57] is named

[00:21:58] Robert

[00:21:58] Turner

[00:21:59] now Robert

[00:22:00] Turner

[00:22:00] also spoke

[00:22:02] out against

[00:22:02] the restrictions

[00:22:03] he said his

[00:22:04] racetrack would

[00:22:05] remain open

[00:22:06] for all

[00:22:07] attendees

[00:22:07] and just

[00:22:09] to make

[00:22:10] the point

[00:22:10] very very

[00:22:11] clear

[00:22:11] he posted

[00:22:13] a sign

[00:22:14] on site

[00:22:16] at the

[00:22:17] race

[00:22:18] and he

[00:22:19] labeled

[00:22:19] the

[00:22:21] gathering

[00:22:21] a quote

[00:22:22] peaceful

[00:22:23] protest

[00:22:23] of

[00:22:24] injustice

[00:22:25] and

[00:22:25] inequality

[00:22:26] everywhere

[00:22:28] so

[00:22:29] why would

[00:22:30] he do

[00:22:30] such a

[00:22:31] thing

[00:22:31] yes

[00:22:32] obviously

[00:22:33] to troll

[00:22:34] my good

[00:22:34] friend

[00:22:34] Ray

[00:22:35] the

[00:22:35] governor

[00:22:35] but

[00:22:36] also

[00:22:37] to make

[00:22:38] a point

[00:22:38] that

[00:22:40] certain

[00:22:42] protests

[00:22:42] were allowed

[00:22:43] to continue

[00:22:43] certain

[00:22:45] protests

[00:22:45] were permitted

[00:22:46] in fact

[00:22:47] my good

[00:22:48] friend

[00:22:48] Ray

[00:22:48] marched

[00:22:49] in one

[00:22:50] of

[00:22:51] those

[00:22:51] protests

[00:22:53] he

[00:22:54] came out

[00:22:54] of the

[00:22:55] governor's

[00:22:55] mansion

[00:22:57] he was

[00:22:57] surrounded

[00:22:58] by a

[00:22:58] security

[00:22:59] detail

[00:22:59] stood

[00:23:00] very

[00:23:00] close

[00:23:01] not six

[00:23:01] feet

[00:23:01] apart

[00:23:02] I would

[00:23:02] point

[00:23:02] out

[00:23:03] and they

[00:23:03] walked

[00:23:04] around

[00:23:04] the block

[00:23:05] or like

[00:23:06] halfway

[00:23:06] around

[00:23:06] the block

[00:23:07] in

[00:23:07] Raleigh

[00:23:08] Roy

[00:23:09] took

[00:23:09] off

[00:23:10] his

[00:23:10] face

[00:23:10] mask

[00:23:12] and

[00:23:13] did

[00:23:13] the

[00:23:13] fist

[00:23:14] bump

[00:23:14] raised

[00:23:15] fist

[00:23:16] into

[00:23:16] the air

[00:23:17] in

[00:23:18] support

[00:23:18] of

[00:23:20] the

[00:23:21] BLM

[00:23:22] marches

[00:23:23] which

[00:23:24] were

[00:23:24] protests

[00:23:25] right

[00:23:26] ostensibly

[00:23:26] peaceful

[00:23:27] when they

[00:23:27] weren't

[00:23:28] you know

[00:23:28] setting

[00:23:28] fire to

[00:23:29] stuff

[00:23:29] in

[00:23:29] downtown

[00:23:29] Raleigh

[00:23:30] but

[00:23:30] ostensibly

[00:23:31] peaceful

[00:23:31] protests

[00:23:32] against

[00:23:33] injustice

[00:23:33] so that's

[00:23:36] what the

[00:23:36] racetrack

[00:23:37] operator

[00:23:37] said

[00:23:38] that's

[00:23:39] what

[00:23:39] we're

[00:23:39] doing

[00:23:39] we're

[00:23:40] going

[00:23:40] to

[00:23:40] have

[00:23:41] a

[00:23:41] peaceful

[00:23:42] protest

[00:23:42] against

[00:23:43] injustice

[00:23:44] and

[00:23:45] inequality

[00:23:45] everywhere

[00:23:47] and he

[00:23:48] got shut

[00:23:48] down

[00:23:49] when the

[00:23:49] short

[00:23:49] track

[00:23:49] speedway

[00:23:50] continued

[00:23:50] to draw

[00:23:51] crowds

[00:23:51] of a

[00:23:52] thousand

[00:23:52] or more

[00:23:53] Cooper's

[00:23:53] office

[00:23:54] ordered

[00:23:55] the

[00:23:55] county

[00:23:55] sheriff

[00:23:56] in

[00:23:56] Alamance

[00:23:56] to

[00:23:56] intervene

[00:23:57] and

[00:23:58] the

[00:23:58] sheriff

[00:23:58] refused

[00:24:01] the

[00:24:01] sheriff

[00:24:01] said

[00:24:02] no

[00:24:02] so

[00:24:03] the

[00:24:04] Cooper

[00:24:04] administration

[00:24:05] declared

[00:24:05] Ace

[00:24:06] Speedway

[00:24:07] an

[00:24:07] imminent

[00:24:08] hazard

[00:24:08] for

[00:24:09] the

[00:24:09] spread

[00:24:09] of

[00:24:10] COVID-19

[00:24:10] and

[00:24:11] called

[00:24:11] for

[00:24:12] its

[00:24:12] closure

[00:24:12] until

[00:24:13] his

[00:24:14] ED

[00:24:14] ended

[00:24:15] Turner

[00:24:16] alleged

[00:24:17] that

[00:24:18] Roy

[00:24:18] Cooper

[00:24:18] treated

[00:24:19] his

[00:24:19] business

[00:24:19] differently

[00:24:20] than

[00:24:20] other

[00:24:20] outdoor

[00:24:21] venues

[00:24:21] because

[00:24:22] of

[00:24:22] his

[00:24:22] vocal

[00:24:23] opposition

[00:24:24] so

[00:24:25] it

[00:24:32] and

[00:24:33] by

[00:24:33] the

[00:24:33] way

[00:24:33] I

[00:24:33] remember

[00:24:34] this

[00:24:34] because

[00:24:35] our

[00:24:35] intrepid

[00:24:36] press

[00:24:36] corps

[00:24:36] in

[00:24:37] Raleigh

[00:24:38] conference

[00:24:38] calling

[00:24:39] in

[00:24:39] to

[00:24:40] the

[00:24:40] press

[00:24:40] conferences

[00:24:41] because

[00:24:41] they

[00:24:41] weren't

[00:24:42] allowed

[00:24:42] to

[00:24:42] attend

[00:24:42] in

[00:24:43] person

[00:24:43] and

[00:24:44] the

[00:24:45] Cooper

[00:24:45] administration

[00:24:46] would

[00:24:47] screen

[00:24:47] reporters

[00:24:48] to only

[00:24:49] allow

[00:24:49] the

[00:24:50] friendlies

[00:24:50] through

[00:24:51] and

[00:24:52] they

[00:24:52] were

[00:24:52] like

[00:24:52] what

[00:24:52] are

[00:24:53] you

[00:24:53] going

[00:24:53] to

[00:24:53] do

[00:24:53] about

[00:24:53] this

[00:24:53] Speedway

[00:24:54] when

[00:24:54] are

[00:24:54] going

[00:24:55] to

[00:24:55] crack

[00:24:55] down

[00:24:56] isn't

[00:24:57] this

[00:24:57] a

[00:24:57] super

[00:24:57] spreader

[00:24:58] event

[00:24:58] blah

[00:24:59] blah

[00:24:59] blah

[00:25:00] blah

[00:25:00] blah

[00:25:00] such

[00:25:03] and

[00:25:03] by

[00:25:03] the

[00:25:03] way

[00:25:03] so

[00:25:04] this

[00:25:04] is

[00:25:04] why

[00:25:04] I

[00:25:04] say

[00:25:04] reporters

[00:25:05] you

[00:25:05] are

[00:25:05] in

[00:25:05] the

[00:25:05] arena

[00:25:06] right

[00:25:07] you

[00:25:07] are

[00:25:08] not

[00:25:08] mere

[00:25:08] observers

[00:25:09] you

[00:25:10] are

[00:25:10] participants

[00:25:10] in

[00:25:11] these

[00:25:11] issues

[00:25:11] because

[00:25:13] those

[00:25:13] questions

[00:25:13] you

[00:25:14] asked

[00:25:14] constantly

[00:25:16] during

[00:25:16] this

[00:25:17] standoff

[00:25:19] I

[00:25:20] would

[00:25:20] submit

[00:25:20] it

[00:25:21] prompted

[00:25:22] more

[00:25:22] action

[00:25:23] by

[00:25:23] government

[00:25:24] you

[00:25:25] drawing

[00:25:25] attention

[00:25:26] to

[00:25:26] it

[00:25:26] you

[00:25:27] saying

[00:25:27] oh

[00:25:27] he

[00:25:27] look

[00:25:27] at

[00:25:27] him

[00:25:28] he

[00:25:28] in

[00:25:28] violation

[00:25:28] we

[00:25:29] saw

[00:25:30] stories

[00:25:31] like

[00:25:31] this

[00:25:31] all

[00:25:31] the

[00:25:32] time

[00:25:32] at

[00:25:32] all

[00:25:33] levels

[00:25:33] local

[00:25:34] state

[00:25:34] county

[00:25:35] federal

[00:25:35] we

[00:25:36] saw

[00:25:36] it

[00:25:36] all

[00:25:36] over

[00:25:36] the

[00:25:36] place

[00:25:37] these

[00:25:38] stories

[00:25:38] like

[00:25:38] they're

[00:25:38] breaking

[00:25:39] the

[00:25:39] rules

[00:25:39] look

[00:25:40] at

[00:25:40] them

[00:25:40] they're

[00:25:40] breaking

[00:25:41] the

[00:25:41] rules

[00:25:43] governor

[00:25:43] wall

[00:25:43] set up

[00:25:44] a

[00:25:44] snitch

[00:25:44] line

[00:25:44] same

[00:25:45] mentality

[00:25:47] state

[00:25:47] attorneys

[00:25:48] argued

[00:25:48] that

[00:25:48] if

[00:25:49] the

[00:25:49] counter

[00:25:49] claims

[00:25:49] were

[00:25:50] allowed

[00:25:50] to

[00:25:50] continue

[00:25:50] they

[00:25:50] would

[00:25:51] hamstring

[00:25:51] the

[00:25:51] government's

[00:25:52] ability

[00:25:52] to

[00:25:52] effectively

[00:25:53] address

[00:25:53] future

[00:25:54] public

[00:25:54] health

[00:25:54] crises

[00:25:55] and

[00:25:55] other

[00:25:55] emergencies

[00:25:56] look

[00:25:56] we

[00:25:56] have

[00:26:18] enforcement

[00:26:19] because

[00:26:19] of

[00:26:20] the

[00:26:21] the

[00:26:22] statements

[00:26:22] from

[00:26:22] the

[00:26:22] racetrack

[00:26:23] operator

[00:26:23] then

[00:26:23] the

[00:26:24] order

[00:26:24] would

[00:26:25] have

[00:26:25] not

[00:26:25] held

[00:26:25] a

[00:26:25] proper

[00:26:26] governmental

[00:26:26] purpose

[00:26:28] the

[00:26:28] state

[00:26:29] supreme

[00:26:29] court

[00:26:29] has

[00:26:29] agreed

[00:26:30] to

[00:26:30] hear

[00:26:30] a

[00:26:30] pair

[00:26:30] of

[00:26:30] cases

[00:26:31] filed

[00:26:31] by

[00:26:32] operators

[00:26:32] of

[00:26:32] standalone

[00:26:33] bars

[00:26:33] who

[00:26:34] said

[00:26:34] Cooper's

[00:26:35] executive

[00:26:35] order

[00:26:35] forcing

[00:26:36] them

[00:26:36] to

[00:26:36] remain

[00:26:37] closed

[00:26:37] for

[00:26:37] safety

[00:26:38] while

[00:26:38] restaurants

[00:26:39] that

[00:26:39] also

[00:26:39] serve

[00:26:40] alcohol

[00:26:40] they

[00:26:40] got

[00:26:40] to

[00:26:41] reopen

[00:26:41] they

[00:26:41] say

[00:26:42] that

[00:26:42] also

[00:26:42] violated

[00:26:43] the

[00:26:43] state

[00:26:43] constitution

[00:26:45] all

[00:26:45] right

[00:26:45] that'll

[00:26:46] do it

[00:26:46] for

[00:26:46] this

[00:26:46] episode

[00:26:47] thank

[00:26:47] you

[00:26:47] so

[00:26:48] much

[00:26:48] for

[00:26:48] listening

[00:26:48] I

[00:26:49] could

[00:26:49] not

[00:26:49] do

[00:26:49] the

[00:26:49] show

[00:26:49] without

[00:26:49] your

[00:26:50] support

[00:26:50] and

[00:26:51] the

[00:26:51] support

[00:26:51] of

[00:26:51] the

[00:26:51] businesses

[00:26:52] that

[00:26:52] advertise

[00:26:52] on

[00:26:53] the

[00:26:53] podcast

[00:26:53] so

[00:26:54] if

[00:26:54] you'd

[00:26:54] like

[00:26:54] please

[00:26:55] support

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[00:26:55] too

[00:26:55] and

[00:26:56] tell

[00:26:56] them

[00:26:56] you

[00:26:56] heard

[00:26:56] it

[00:26:56] here

[00:26:56] you

[00:26:57] can

[00:26:57] also

[00:26:57] become

[00:26:57] a

[00:26:57] patron

[00:26:58] at

[00:26:58] my

[00:26:58] patreon

[00:26:59] page

[00:26:59] or

[00:26:59] go

[00:27:00] to

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[00:27:00] pete

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[00:27:02] again

[00:27:02] thank

[00:27:03] you