Biden's odd interview (07-08-2024--Hour2)

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[00:00:29] So CBS News reporting ahead of a potentially pivotal week on Capitol Hill, the Biden-Harris campaign is stepping up its outreach to lawmakers amid growing calls for President Biden to step down from the ticket. This was from today. This story is today.

[00:00:47] Mr. Biden has personally made not one, not two, not five or 10, 20 calls. He has made 20 calls to congressional members since the presidential debate in Atlanta like over a week ago. So that's like he's averaging like two a day.

[00:01:13] I mean, that is, I mean, that is breakneck pace right there. Additional calls are expected, according to a campaign official. Last week, the White House said that the president spoke with several key allies, including Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, Speaker Emerita Nancy

[00:01:32] Pelosi, Representative Jim Clyburn of South Carolina and Senator Chris Coons of Delaware. Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders also told Face the Nation on Sunday that he had recently spoken with the president, too. A memo acquired by CBS News, which was sent to the Hill offices by the Biden-Harris campaign.

[00:01:54] So congressional offices got this letter, highlights more than a dozen appearances by the president since the debate that he has made in blue wall states, including this weekend's campaign events in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. What did I say at the last hour?

[00:02:10] The reason why people are now aware of Joe Biden's cognitive decline is because they're afraid they're going to lose, too. It's not about Joe. It's not about the democracy. It's about power. It's about them keeping hold of their power.

[00:02:30] By the way, the Philadelphia church, that's where he sat frozen, mouth agape. There was another event that Dr. Gilson had to enlist the help of some other people around like Joe's. Joe's in the middle of a speech and he starts down some path talking about whatever.

[00:02:49] And you can see behind him Dr. Gilson and some other woman. And they're, you know, like, I don't know, 10 feet away. And as he starts going down, goes off the rails a little bit in his speech, Jill leans over and says something to the woman next to her.

[00:03:07] And then they like, oh, and they they they enlist somebody behind them. And the next thing they all three of them, like move up and start to get Joe under control. This is frequent. We've been watching this. I mean, remember the Easter Bunny?

[00:03:24] Literally the Easter Bunny had to pull him off a rope line at the egg hunt years ago at the White House lawn. His upcoming schedule this week includes a NATO summit and meeting with union leaders at the AFL-CIO. Then this from Axios.

[00:03:45] Senate Democrats will not meet today to discuss their support for President Biden continuing his reelection bid, despite an effort by Senator Mark Warner to organize such a meeting. Warner's meeting had been seen as a potential watershed moment for Senate Democrats who

[00:04:01] have remained largely silent on Biden's future amid calls for him to step aside. The meeting was never scheduled. A person familiar with Warner's thinking. So Warner or his staffer, Senate Democrats as a whole meet tomorrow. But that's just a regularly scheduled caucus meeting.

[00:04:19] Warner was trying to organize Democrat senators today. A group of top house to own, by the way, this was dismissed. Warner's concerns were dismissed by Joe Biden in the Stephanopoulos interview because Mark Warner sought the nomination.

[00:04:39] So Joe basically accuses him of, I don't know, sore losing or sour grapes or, you know, trying to knock off Biden because Biden knocked him off or something. A group of top House Democrats on Sunday said Biden should drop out of the race. House Democrats are saying this.

[00:05:00] Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has publicly stood behind Biden, but he was telling political allies that an early debate would give the party flexibility going forward, including finding a new candidate. That's what Schumer has been telling people before the debate even happened, which makes

[00:05:18] sense because Schumer would know about Joe's decline. He would know firsthand. So what does Joe think happened at the debate? Well, Stephanopoulos asked him, you and your team said have said you had a bad night, but

[00:05:35] your but your friend Nancy Pelosi actually framed the question, I think, is on the minds of millions of Americans. Was this a bad episode or the sign of a more serious condition? It's a bad episode. No indication of any serious condition. I was exhausted.

[00:05:50] I didn't listen to my instincts in terms of preparing and a bad night. You know, you say you were exhausted and I know you've said that before as well, but you came and you did have a tough month, but you came home from Europe about 11 or

[00:06:04] 12 days before the debate spent six days in Camp David. Why wasn't that enough rest time, enough recovery time? Because I was sick. I was feeling terrible. Matter of fact, the docs with me, I asked them, they did a covid test to try and figure out what's wrong.

[00:06:19] They did a test to see whether or not I had some infection, you know, virus. I didn't. It just had a really bad cold. Did you ever watch the debate afterwards? I don't think I did. No. Well, I would.

[00:06:35] I'm sure what I want to get at is what were you experiencing as you were going through the debate? Did you know how badly it was going? Yeah. Look, the whole way I prepared. Nobody's fault. Mine. Nobody's fault but mine.

[00:06:50] I, uh, I prepared what I usually would do sitting down as I did come back with foreign leaders or the National Security Council for explicit detail. And I realized partway through that, you know, all the I get quoted, The New York Times had

[00:07:08] me down at 10 points before the debate. What? Nine now or whatever the hell it is. The fact of the matter is that when I looked at is that he also lied 28 times. I couldn't. What? I mean, the way the debate ran, not my fault. No one else's fault.

[00:07:25] No one else's fault. But it seemed like you were having trouble from the first question in even before he spoke. Well, I just had a bad night. You've got some bad interviews once in a while. I can't remember any, but I'm sure you do. I've had plenty.

[00:07:40] All right. So note the pivoting. He starts talking about one thing because he was started in. He started with something about how he was exhausted. He had a cold. He was feeling terrible. But he went in prepping the way he always preps for all these other important things.

[00:08:01] And then he then he shifts over to he's a liar and then he shifts over to the format. But it's my fault. You know, totally my fault. But I can't there's no there isn't a through line there.

[00:08:16] It's like and this is what we saw in the debate, too, is where he'll start on one train of thought and then he loses it. I guess he's building up to. And I get it. Look, I doing what I do sometimes. I don't know.

[00:08:30] I'm sort of off the top of my head on a lot of this stuff. But you prep as much as you can. But once you start talking, you're going and you're like it happened to me last hour. Right.

[00:08:38] Where I started in about the similarities between Trump and Biden. And I'd forgotten one of the bullet points. But I did eventually remember to my credit, I will say not that I need that kind of credit. I'm just saying.

[00:08:54] But the the inability to finish out the thought before pivoting to the next thought, he just did it with three different thoughts in the span of less than a minute. That's the stuff that we saw on stage in the debate.

[00:09:14] And I don't know what Donald Trump lying has to do with you having a bad episode. Right. Like he's he's constantly trying to to redirect or something, I guess, but he's not able to to hammer the point home.

[00:09:30] And I will say Stephanopoulos, he he pressed on a lot of these questions. Of course, I think he's worried that Democrats are going to get shellacked. Down ballot races, they're going to get wiped out. I think that's that's the animating fear here.

[00:09:46] George Stephanopoulos sat down with President Biden on Friday, I guess this was and I watched it. I pulled some of the audio. This is by far the longest clip I've got. It's it runs about two forty five. All right. But he's George Stephanopoulos sites reporting about Biden's decline.

[00:10:08] And he asks him, are you the same guy now that you were when you first got into the presidency? Are you the same man today that you were when you took office three and a half years ago? In terms of successes, yes.

[00:10:21] I also was a guy who put together a peace plan for the Middle East and may become in fruition. I'm sorry. Are you claiming credit for peace in the Middle East right now? Is that what I just heard? OK, that's that might be a lie. Right.

[00:10:39] Maybe also the guy that expanded NATO is also the guy that grew the economy. All the individual things that were done were ideas I had or I fulfilled. I moved on. And so, for example, you know, well, that was true then. What's Biden done lately?

[00:10:54] It's just today just announced two hundred thousand new jobs. We're moving in a direction that no one's ever taken on. I know you know this from the days in the government. I took on big pharma. I beat them. No one said I could beat them.

[00:11:10] I took on all the things we said we got done. I took on all the things we said we got done. OK, I don't know what that means, but he beat big pharma. Were you aware of that? Big Pharma is destroyed. Did you know that?

[00:11:25] By the way, have you gotten your jab? We're told we couldn't get done. Part of it is what I said when I ran was I want to do three things. Restore some decency to the office.

[00:11:38] Restore some support for the middle class instead of trickle down economics, go from the middle out in the bottom up the way the wealthy still do fine. Everyone does better and unite the country. But what has all that work?

[00:11:49] Well, OK, do you feel like you've done those things? Really, do you know what? Do I need to go over the inflation numbers? Like over the course of his presidency, inflation's gone up now 16 percent. In the last three years, 20 if you go back to 2021.

[00:12:09] But I'll give him a mulligan on that one. My gosh. Decency to the White House when they're not finding bags of Coke. I mean, we're having discussions about whether or not there's some shadow government running the White House like this is decency. Look fat.

[00:12:30] Sorry, that's a quote from Joe Biden. That's decency. Don't you know? Here's the thing, Joe. I've been saying this for as long as I've been on air. Joe Biden is a jerk. He has been a jerk for decades. He's a liar. He's a fabulist plagiarist.

[00:12:45] This was well known to everybody. Over the last three and a half years cost you physically, mentally, emotionally. Well, I just think it cost me a really bad night, bad run. But, you know, I George, I have I'm optimistic about this country.

[00:13:11] I don't think we're a country of losers. I don't think America's in tough shape. I think America's on the cusp of breaking through and so many incredible opportunities. This next term, I'm going to make sure we got to straighten out the tax system.

[00:13:24] I'm going to make sure we're in a situation where we have health care for all people. We're in a position where we have child care and elder care free up and all these things.

[00:13:36] One thing I'm proudest of is remember when my economic plan was put forward, a lot of the mainstream economists said it's not going to work. Guess what? You now have 16 Nobel laureates, 16 of them.

[00:13:48] It's a line from the debate to Biden's next term would be based on what he wants to do. Enormous success. Trump's plan would cause a recession, would increase inflation. I've made great progress and that's what I plan on doing. And we can do this. I understand that.

[00:14:06] And I'm not disputing that. What I'm asking you is about your personal situation. Do you dispute that there have been more lapses, especially in the last several months? Can I run the hundred and tenth flat? No, but I'm still in good shape. Are you more frail? No. What?

[00:14:25] I know you spoke to my schedule. He doesn't believe he's more frail now than he was three years ago. Really? Like that answer alone is disqualifying. Of course he is. What kind of self-delusion are you perpetuating here? Of course, you're more frail. It's called getting old.

[00:14:47] Very slowly at first and then all at once. Right. Like that's how this stuff tends to go. Joe Biden told George Stephanopoulos that his doctor told him after the debate that he was exhausted. And then he says, I have a team of doctors.

[00:15:04] And Stephanopoulos asked him, have you had a full neurological and cognitive evaluation? I get a full neurological test every day with me. And I've had a full physical. I've been able to read from my physicals. I mean, yes. I know your doctor said he consulted with a neurologist.

[00:15:31] I guess I'm asking a slightly different question. Have you had the specific cognitive tests and have you had a neurologist, a specialist do an examination? No, no one said I had to. No one said they said I'm good. Think about that. No one said I had to.

[00:15:47] They said I was good. Who's telling him that? Why on earth would you tell him that? You don't want the answer. Right. They don't want to know the answer. So you just don't ask. Yeah, you're fine. You're totally fine.

[00:16:06] When and to his credit, Stephanopoulos is going to kind of push him on this. Be willing to undergo an independent medical evaluation that included neurological and cognitive tests and release the results to the American people. I have a cognitive test every single day.

[00:16:23] Every day I have that test. Yes. And we kind of feel like you're failing it. That's why we're asking for a bigger test. You know, we're watching you and and we've got some questions. We have some concerns. Do you think I do?

[00:16:36] You know, not only in my campaign, but I'm running the world. And that's not how it sounds like hyperbole. OK, that does sound a little bit like hyperbole. I don't think you're running the world. If you are running the world. Oh my gosh, we got some bigger problems.

[00:16:51] No wonder stuff is all jacked up. You're not running the world. Who has told you you're running the world? Good Lord. But we are the central nation in the world. I don't know if I was right.

[00:17:04] And every single day, for example, today before I come out here, I'm on the phone with the prime minister of Russia. I shouldn't get into detail, but. There he is again, starts off with a thought. I shouldn't. Oh, I shouldn't say this.

[00:17:19] How many times does he do this? It's like once at least once in appearance. But then he's going to tell you who he's talking to with. No, no. OK, I'm on the phone with the new prime minister of England.

[00:17:29] I'm working on what we're doing with regard to in Europe, with regard to expansion of NATO and whether it's going to stick. I'm taking on Putin. I mean, every day there's no day I go through. They're not those decisions I have to make every single day.

[00:17:45] And you have been doing that in the American people have been watching. Yet their concerns about your age and your health are growing. So that's why I'm asking to reassure them. Would you be willing to have the independent medical evaluation?

[00:17:57] Watch me between there's a lot of time left in this campaign. So over 125 days. So the answer is the right answer right now is no, you don't want to do that. I've already done it. I've already done it. No, you haven't. This is confusing. He's confused.

[00:18:16] He's confusing me or he's confused. Right. Like. Will you take the test? No, he's basically saying no. And so when Stephanopoulos says no, you're saying no. I've already done it. Well, no, you haven't already done it. You have not taken a neurological test.

[00:18:32] This third party, whatever, independent cognitive and neurological evaluation. He hasn't done it. He then says, look at all the stuff I did, including shutting down Putin. George, I'm the guy that put NATO together. The future. No one thought I could expand it.

[00:18:51] I'm the guy that shut Putin down. No one thought could happen. I'm the guy that put together a South Pacific initiative with AUKUS. I'm the guy that got 50 nations out, not only in Europe, outside of Europe as well, to help Ukraine.

[00:19:07] I'm the guy that got Japanese to expand their budget. So I mean, these and for example, when I decided we used to have 40 percent of the computer chip and we invented the chip. No, again with the chips. It's in everything from cell phone to weapons.

[00:19:23] We are aware of what computer chips are. Forty percent. We're down to virtually nothing. So I get in the plane against the advice of everybody and I fly to South Korea. I convinced them to invest in the United States billions of dollars.

[00:19:35] Now we have tens of billions of dollars being invested in the United States, making us back in a position we're going to own that industry again. We have I mean, I guess anyway, I don't want to take too much credit. I have great staff.

[00:19:52] But all that I guess my point is all that takes a toll. Do you have the mental and physical capacity to do it for another four years? I believe so. I wouldn't be running if I didn't think I would.

[00:20:03] Look, I'm running again because I think I understand best what has to be done to take this nation to a completely new level. We're on our way. We're on our way. I understand best what has to be done to take the country to the next level.

[00:20:24] Nobody else in America can do it, which is quite an indictment of all of us. If he is the only one, he's the only person in the land that understands how best to take us to the next level. That is an indictment on our education system.

[00:20:45] He then goes on to say that nobody is more qualified than he is to win this race. And this gets to the point we were talking about, I think, in the last hour with a caller

[00:20:56] named John, I think, about this idea that he believes that he is the most qualified, the best person and the only one to be able to beat Donald Trump. If Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi come down and say, we're worried that

[00:21:14] if you stay in the race, we're going to lose the House and the Senate. How will you respond? I go into detail with them. I've spoken to all of them in detail, including Jim Clyburn.

[00:21:25] Every one of them, they all said I should stay in the race, stay in the race. No one said none of the people said I should leave. But if they do. Well, it's like we're not going to do that. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm sure.

[00:21:39] Look, I mean, if the Lord Almighty came out and said, Joe, get out of the race, I'd get out of the race. The Lord Almighty is not coming down. I mean, these hypotheticals, George, if I mean, if all. But it's not that hypothetical anymore.

[00:21:54] I grant that they have not requested the meeting, but it's been reported. I've met with them. I've met with a lot of these people. I've talked with them regularly. I had an hour conversation with Akeem. I had more time than Jim Clyburn.

[00:22:10] I spent time with many hours off and on the last little bit with Chuck Schumer. It's not like I had all the governors, all the governors. I agree that the Lord Almighty is not going to come down.

[00:22:23] But if if if you are told reliably from your allies, from your friends and supporters in the Democratic Party, in the House and the Senate, that they're concerned you're going to lose the House and Senate if you stay in, what will you do?

[00:22:37] I'm not going to answer that question. It's not going to happen. Not going to happen. He's waiting on God. So God has to come down and tell him. You got to drop out of the race. I don't know if God is like or Lord Almighty.

[00:22:58] I don't know if that's like a code name. Maybe it's one of Hunter's suppliers or something. I don't know. Possible. I don't know. Oh, and then he made a comment about, look at my crowds, look at all the crowds.

[00:23:10] Stephanopoulos is like, I don't know if you want to do a crowd comparison because Trump's packing them in, too. And then he's like, oh, what's he saying? I go, well, that's a different thing. Then he's saying something other than what you're saying.

[00:23:21] You guys are running against each other. Obviously, you're saying different things. But you were the one that brought up the size of your crowds as some sort of proof. And then when Stephanopoulos pointed out that your crowds are smaller than Trump's,

[00:23:33] then it's like, well, the size doesn't matter. It's only the the content of the speech. Oh, come on. Gosh, I have one more clip from this George Stephanopoulos interview. But the last clip I played in the last clip there, you heard Biden say, I'm the guy that

[00:23:49] shut Putin down. And within what, 48 hours, Russia launched missile attacks into Ukraine. Hitting a children's hospital in Kiev one day before the NATO summit begins in Washington. That's what shutting Putin down looks like, I guess. Final clip. Joe Biden talking about he is the most qualified.

[00:24:22] You know, the heart of your case against Donald Trump is that he's only out for himself, putting his personal interests ahead of the national interest. How do you respond to critics who say that by staying in the race, you're doing the same thing? Oh, come on.

[00:24:37] I don't think those critics know what they're talking about. They're just wrong. It's wrong. That's it. Look, Trump is a pathological liar. Unlike Trump. He is. Have you ever seen anything Trump did that benefited somebody else, not him? You can't answer I know.

[00:24:58] I've questioned him and his allies as persistently as any journalist. Oh, I know you have. I'm not being critical. Yeah, I'm not being critical. But look, I mean. This is what's called whataboutism.

[00:25:11] When you get asked a question about your behavior and your answer is, what about that other guy over there? Right. Everything he is arguing is in terms of Donald Trump. I'm not him. I'm running against him. He's terrible. He's awful. You got to pick me.

[00:25:33] That's all this is. Right. And Joe Biden is also a pathological liar, has been for decades. The media used to know this, but for some reason they have all forgotten all of the lies that Joe Biden is told. Oh, that's just old Joe.

[00:25:50] Maybe he has got a little bit of a penchant for exaggeration. Right. They're not keeping a running total of all of his lies at The Washington Post. This was a guy who had to drop out of the presidential race in 80, I believe it was 1980 or maybe 84 or 88.

[00:26:11] I don't even know. But it was a long time ago. Because he was caught lying and plagiarizing, plagiarizing speeches. He plagiarized one of the papers at his college. He talked about all of the records he said at college, and it turned out none of it was true.

[00:26:28] Like he went down. I've played the clip before Sam Donaldson anchoring the report. And you got Joe Biden dropping out of the race. He's like, he said this. Like Joe Biden is like firing off like a whole list of accomplishments as he's challenging

[00:26:45] some voter to an IQ test. Have you ever seen this video? Challenging the guy to an IQ test and then rapid fire. Boom, boom. I did this. I got this. I graduated with all these, all that.

[00:26:58] And Donaldson then comes back from the audio soundbite and proceeds to outline every single claim that Biden made was a lie. Every one of them easily discoverable as well. I mean, he's making up stuff about like his athletic performances and stuff. It was just weird.

[00:27:22] He has been this way his entire career. The man is a congenital liar. As I said, they pointed out in that debate, he lied 27, 28 times the times or whatever number over 20 times. Talk about how good his economy was, how he brought down inflation, how this is a guy

[00:27:45] who unlike only other presidents other than him is Hoover lost more jobs than he created. This is a guy told us and put bleach in our arms to deal with COVID when a million over a million people died. And there's another one, right? There's another lie right there.

[00:28:01] While while attacking Trump as a liar, he lies. And I'm supposed to I'm supposed to think that this is decency returning to the White House. All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.

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