Asheville can finally rip down monument to its governor (03-27-2024--Hour2)

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[00:00:28] Want to welcome back to the program. Mark Starling, he's the morning guy, WNC up in Ashville

[00:00:35] and Mark, welcome back. How are you, sir? I'm doing well, my friend. My brain is still

[00:00:40] trying to recover from the full-length audio of Corinne Jean Pierre. That is really something

[00:00:49] to listen to her in a full six-minute block. Yeah, it's a bit much. You know? Yeah. It's

[00:00:56] a lot as the kids would say she's extra. She is a little extra. She's kind of like eating

[00:01:03] a whole popsicle at one time. You know what I mean? Brain freeze that you get. You get

[00:01:08] a little paralysis on the side of your face there and everything kind of goes numb. Yeah.

[00:01:13] I'm curious did the White House reach out to you being a news guy in radio in North Carolina?

[00:01:21] Did they reach out to you as well to see if you would like to do a six-minute interview

[00:01:26] with Corinne Jean Pierre? No, because I think they're under the assumption that Western

[00:01:31] Carolina is actually a different state. So... Well, to be fair, a lot of people in North

[00:01:39] Carolina believe that to be the case as well. It's a valid point. Yeah, yeah.

[00:01:43] Lay out here out west if you will. No, but believe it or not, the state of North Carolina

[00:01:47] does actually exist west of 321 or west of I-77. There's got to be like 20, 25 counties

[00:01:58] out there I want to say. Pretty big cities. Yeah, well, I mean let's not get crazy. Okay,

[00:02:05] some of them are full of people. Yeah, some of some counties have a lot of people.

[00:02:08] Right, it's still so the... All right, so western North Carolina, this is why I wanted to have you on

[00:02:13] is to let people know about some of the stuff that is going on out in the west and the local

[00:02:21] dumbassery that occurs particularly in Asheville because you know me, I do enjoy pointing and laughing

[00:02:28] at some of the goons on in Asheville. I made a pretty good career of it for about

[00:02:34] eight or nine years. So I'm curious, I thought that the story about the obelisk or the

[00:02:43] Vance monument right there in the heart of downtown Asheville. It's the thing that looks like

[00:02:51] well used to look like the Washington monument, right? The big stick. Right in the middle of

[00:02:55] downtown and so that thing got taken down. I thought it was already all the way down but apparently

[00:03:00] the base was still there. Is it still there? Yes, so the base was still there and they were using

[00:03:06] the base as a platform for random different art displays from local artists. I mean they say

[00:03:16] they were art displays. I don't like to throw terms around but... Yeah, one man's trash is

[00:03:22] another person's trash that kind of art. It could have been a homeless person shopping cart

[00:03:27] up there. I'm not 100% sure but they said it was art so I just kind of you know you can just

[00:03:32] acknowledge and let them have their thing every single while. But yeah, so the base was still

[00:03:36] standing and essentially what happened was they began to deconstruct or destroy this this monument

[00:03:44] prior to actually going through the proper channels. Well then once it was already down,

[00:03:50] there was an injunction filed. They were told that they could not do anything else and that the

[00:03:55] blocks had to remain in a certain storage facility area because of their historical significance.

[00:04:01] And that was until all of this got resolved and finally now after having gone to the

[00:04:06] state supreme court they've said you know what it's a done deal, the Asheville is free to remove

[00:04:13] the base now so they're going to take the base away and the space is going to be dedicated.

[00:04:20] I know this is going to come as a real shock to you but it's going to be dedicated to a

[00:04:24] space of inclusivity. Oh of course. So yeah so basically they're going to look for probably I don't

[00:04:33] know 22 or 23 million dollars to re you know re-image the park there. No. And now remember that this

[00:04:41] is the Vance monument is now surrounded by Black Lives Matter Circle because they allowed the Black

[00:04:49] Lives Matter folks to paint these god awful murals all over the streets that you know what happens

[00:04:55] after a while when cars drive over the top of murals it just becomes an omitigated mess and

[00:05:02] that's essentially what happened but they let them do it anyway. So you've still got that to

[00:05:07] contend with now as well. Okay so there are so this stone base that's there. They are going

[00:05:17] to dismantle it. They're not going to just like put up a little staircase so people could stand

[00:05:21] up on it and do the street preaching or do the protest in like they usually do from that area.

[00:05:27] No no no they're gonna they're gonna get rid of it and they're gonna come up with a plan for

[00:05:32] the park. They don't know what they're gonna do with it yet but you know there's still the funny

[00:05:36] part is that all of the marketing and tourism stuff still has the Vance monument very present

[00:05:43] on that marketing material that they are using for you know to lure people here for false

[00:05:50] senses of safety and vacation. So the Vance monument was erected for Zebulon Vance who was the

[00:05:56] former governor of North Carolina I believe the only one from Bunkham County. He was he happened

[00:06:01] to be the governor during at the start of the Civil War and and so they erected this monument

[00:06:08] for him and in fact the local Jewish community and not even just the local Jewish community there

[00:06:12] Jews that would come from all over the country and they would put wreaths at the base of this

[00:06:17] monument because after the war Vance toward the nation promoting he had a speech and they turned

[00:06:25] it into a book I think it's called like a scattered nation or the scattered nation or scattered people

[00:06:29] something like that. And he would and he talked about how like Jewish people they're not so bad

[00:06:34] like that was literally the whole point to this thing was to kind of let people know that Jews were

[00:06:38] not the enemy and so Jewish people like famous wealthy Jewish people were like indebted to him

[00:06:45] so much so that they would make this annual pilgrimage down to Asheville North Carolina and lay

[00:06:49] wreaths at this monument. So you do have to ask yourself I mean did they take it down because Zebulon

[00:06:55] Vance was a slave owner or did they take it down because he supported Jewish people? I mean I'm

[00:07:00] only going by their rules that's true yeah yeah now that's a fair question well so they so all of the

[00:07:06] effort to take it down was during the summer of fiery but mostly peaceful protesting and but before

[00:07:13] that had occurred taxpayers and what was it called the society for the historical preservation of

[00:07:20] the 26 North Carolina troops they had raised a bunch of money to fix to renovate the monument

[00:07:27] because it had been decaying because just like everything else in Asheville they don't they don't

[00:07:31] keep up with their infrastructure maintenance so the so it started to decay they raised a whole

[00:07:36] bunch of money like over a hundred thousand dollars and they put it towards renovating this monument

[00:07:40] and then after that was done then they started to take it down so the local group is like we want

[00:07:46] our money back no we missed a step in their feet because prior to it being taken down they decided

[00:07:53] that it needed to be since they couldn't take it down that they had to cover it because it was

[00:07:59] it was triggering people so they put this gigantic black tarp over the thing yeah right and it

[00:08:06] it it went exactly how you expected right didn't some of it blow off I did it it blew down

[00:08:11] the first day well and then my favorite proposal came I think it was in the local paper where they

[00:08:17] said let's paint the thing and let's paint will have focus its four sides will paint each side of

[00:08:22] this monument this stone monument a different color representing different peoples and so there

[00:08:27] was one color for black there was one color for white then there was color for yellow and red

[00:08:32] and people were like whoa whoa whoa that's kind of racisty yeah and here's the best part that

[00:08:38] suggestion actually came from the city council who are supposedly the anti-reds I mean it's uh listen

[00:08:49] it's a whole different world over here see this is what I mean this is why I say sometimes I just

[00:08:55] like to point in laugh it's a target rich environment here right across your line of my friend I got

[00:09:02] mark sterling morning guy W.W.N.C radio I appreciate your time Mark I'll talk to you next week buddy

[00:09:08] you've got to take care of me all right buddy take it easy like literally they said let's let's do

[00:09:12] four colors yellow for the and people like well what does the yellow cup what what people are those

[00:09:18] like okay that's a terrible idea we take it back okay if you're listening to this podcast you

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[00:10:15] I do have messages I've got a reaction to the courage jump here interview people are doubting

[00:10:23] that it actually ran six minutes they believe it felt more like three hours totally get it

[00:10:35] North Carolina's highest court declined to revive a challenge to the decision by actual city leaders

[00:10:42] to remove the monument downtown Asheville that honors the civil war era governor of North Carolina

[00:10:50] named Zebulon Vance the Vance monument it's an obelisk as they called them um the state supreme court

[00:10:59] agreed unanimously that it had been appropriate to dismiss legal claims filed by a historic

[00:11:06] preservation group that had helped raise money to restore the 75-foot tall obelisk back in the 2010s

[00:11:15] right so about 10 years ago or so they raised a bunch of money I want to say it was uh

[00:11:22] there's a there's a figure in here this is from wl os tv's website wl os dot com right 138

[00:11:28] thousand dollars they had raised so they took donations from people to fix this monument because

[00:11:34] the city of ashville in you know this I mean this is what they do city of ashville as a very long

[00:11:43] history of not funding its capital maintenance it they just don't until they are constantly trying

[00:11:50] to do money grabs uh against residents and surrounding counties with different water rates

[00:11:56] and stuff they're constantly trying to annex properties in and stuff but only certain high revenue

[00:12:02] generating properties like if you look at their um their city limits

[00:12:09] like it's crazy they annex in like squiggly parts just to connect to this other richer part so

[00:12:15] they can they can take that tax base so this is why by the way this is what prompted my idea

[00:12:22] it was really off of the some of the city council members were pitching this idea of a commuter

[00:12:26] tax so if you lived outside of bunkham county or outside of the city of ashville and you commuted

[00:12:31] somehow another gulf co would learn this information about you and then they would tax you

[00:12:37] for coming into their city and helping to generate economic activity for them how dare you right

[00:12:44] so they would tax you they wanted a commuter tax on you this is what prompted me to come up with

[00:12:51] the cartopult idea which for some reason no one has taken me up on um and well to be fair i have

[00:13:00] not perfected the landing part of this idea but you basically just launch all of the vehicles as

[00:13:06] they come into town that are on the interstate since such you just launch them over the city and as

[00:13:10] they flip over and over and over and they all the money drops out rains down on the city you just run

[00:13:16] around collect all that money and then well like i said i haven't worked on the landing part yet

[00:13:22] i was just trying to know pun intended get the idea off the ground first but you know get some

[00:13:27] get some seed capital some angel investing lined up and go from there in the months after the start

[00:13:33] of the 2020 demonstrations over racial justice and the murder of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police

[00:13:39] officer the ashville city council voted to dismantle the downtown monument out of public safety

[00:13:45] concerns because they were very very afraid that if they left the obelisk standing people would keep

[00:13:51] protesting at it on it to it in front of it uh twerking on it all sorts of stuff uh spray painting

[00:13:59] it and that sort of thing attacking the big rock monument with their fists and feet

[00:14:08] just flinging themselves at this stone monument this cornerstone was laid in 1897 it had been

[00:14:14] vandalized and the city had received threats that people would topple it the society for the historical

[00:14:20] preservation of the 26th north carolina troops opposed the removal and sued but a trial judge

[00:14:25] dismissed the lawsuit the obelisk was dismantled before the court of appeals uh told the city

[00:14:32] and bunkham county to stop the demolition while appeals were heard now here's my idea because you know

[00:14:39] me i'm all about solutions right here's my idea they took down the the big stick part of this obelisk

[00:14:46] but they still have the basis mark was telling us they still have the base that's there and i i say

[00:14:54] um dismantle that and give it away for free hand it out so anybody that wants a piece of history

[00:15:04] or something like that they can have it right um i think this would be a wildly popular and successful

[00:15:11] program you just break it apart dismantle it you know into blocks or manageable sizes you know

[00:15:17] that kind of thing and just say we are we are giving away uh you know pieces of this base

[00:15:25] sort of it's a free base and i think it'd be very very popular particularly in ashville

[00:15:33] you promote free base ashville like you're gonna have people come in out of the woodworks

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[00:17:04] hello uh steve and welcome to the program uh this is this is winston oh i'm sorry are you wait

[00:17:10] are you sure it's winston but that's my brother the call gen oh your brother is Steve twin brother

[00:17:16] eight your twin brother is Steve actually my dad is a twin he's an identical twin

[00:17:22] so it's your dad my dad listen peete i want to put i want to pass y'all a branch out today

[00:17:28] and leave anything that i said in the past leave it in the past and we're going to move forward

[00:17:35] and i'm being sincere okay is there a reason why you want to extend the solid branch

[00:17:42] is there a reason that that that precipitated this i think i have the

[00:17:48] conviction of the holy ghost hmm i shouldn't i shouldn't climb behind on about that but i wanted

[00:17:53] to talk about uh sincere stuff this this this correct it happened up there the uh

[00:17:59] christmas got key bridge you know when i was yeah actually i was thinking about that bridge when

[00:18:02] i was eighteen years old now this is this is going back me and a friend of mine he had a

[00:18:07] Volkswagen we drove from Pennsylvania down to that bridge when it opened up and drove across it

[00:18:14] in the middle of the night and i i could swear we had a six pack of beer that's that's an honest

[00:18:20] a god truth all right that's so that's a great that's a good story but now getting back to

[00:18:26] serious stuff here you can't look at the word what's that lower Logan the reporter low lower

[00:18:34] Logan Laura yeah yes i am aware of lara Logan she's a she's a pretty good gum she'll

[00:18:39] investigate her she was on a steve band and show yesterday and uh and she doesn't believe

[00:18:44] the official story we're being told that's uh not a surprise he said it was a military strike

[00:18:51] and uh i listened to her you know and we know in military um strategy taking out

[00:19:01] lines of commerce communication and this is truly one of them but what i want to go to is

[00:19:09] who was driving the cargo ship and were they tested for alcohol because you know commercial

[00:19:18] commercial carriers cannot have any alcohol in their system you have to truck driver they can't

[00:19:25] have anything and how about some uh camera footage of the uh the helm i mean i need these when

[00:19:34] why can't we get to these these these questions answered i mean these are a lot is that a logical

[00:19:40] question am i asking too much have you uh have you actually uh sought these answers

[00:19:47] um i'm asking you no well i i have not sought the answers have you

[00:19:52] um i'm uh but you have the connections what do you mean i have the connection you just said

[00:19:57] you you've been to the bridge i've never been to this bridge no not to the bridge that was

[00:20:01] that was party time i'm talking about the when it went into the boat hitting yesterday

[00:20:07] i'm in serious now i am as well are you so there is uh do you have a computer

[00:20:14] of course okay so you could you could do a search to find out um like who the captain

[00:20:20] is of the boat and you could like find out what the protocol is for the for the drug and alcohol

[00:20:26] testing which i would agree with you that they're my presumption is that there is some form of

[00:20:32] testing that they would all undergo um and uh but i have not i've not done any kind of uh research

[00:20:39] into whether or not that has occurred and that's why i asked if you had

[00:20:44] no but i'm asking why haven't we heard why haven't we heard i don't know if i i don't know what

[00:20:49] you've heard or haven't heard i don't know what you know i don't know what everybody has heard

[00:20:52] i would like to hear well that's why i said if it's okay well that so this is what i'm

[00:20:56] so i'm answering your question is that if you uh if you would like to hear that answer

[00:21:02] i would say the first thing you should do is to go and try to seek it out right at which you are

[00:21:07] doing by calling this show and asking me if i had that answer i would obviously give it to you but

[00:21:12] i i don't have the answer so i'm telling you you should probably go and find the answer on the

[00:21:18] interweb i would assume are you willing to find out for me and on your order why would i be willing

[00:21:24] wait why why how hard do you think it's going to be to find out who the the captain of the ship is

[00:21:31] why are you why are you telling me to go do this hang on a second i like okay maybe this is just my

[00:21:36] contrarian nature and i recognize this about myself okay but uh i'd like why why am i taking

[00:21:43] assignments from you to go find whether or not your conspiracy theory is true or not how why does

[00:21:49] that fall to me to do i would not want to tell you what to do ever again because i know that you

[00:21:57] can hit the you can you can hit the exit button on me you can dump me in a matter of seconds no

[00:22:02] no it's not even seconds i got to cover my base it's not even seconds like i can dump you in less

[00:22:07] than a second how comes lore login laris and and and uh she does an analysis very brilliant

[00:22:18] you know she dices it up and she says this was a military strike and she has

[00:22:24] she has information that it was um

[00:22:28] that what you're asking me how come how come she how come she has that

[00:22:32] uh she she she basically says it did i mean that you that that that ship did a dog leg into that

[00:22:42] pier and and that smoke coming out of the stack was that captain pushing that throttle down

[00:22:50] in the floor and giving her all she got scottie i see so it's not that it's it's not that it was a

[00:22:56] military operation that like targeted the ship knocking out its comms in order to send it into

[00:23:01] into the bridge you're saying that it was a uh this was intentionally done by these ships captain

[00:23:08] that made a b-line for it and and took it out on purpose that the captain is some is part of

[00:23:13] a military attack do we know the captain was driving he could have been stop as stop

[00:23:19] stop asking stop asking questions as evidence okay you asking a question is not proof of anything

[00:23:27] it just means you know how to put a question mark at the end of a sentence so what i what

[00:23:32] i require of you Winston is some assertion of a fact rather than just asking questions and

[00:23:40] pretending as if asking a series of questions proves a point when it does not you not knowing

[00:23:46] something doesn't make it true okay it actually just means that you don't know something right your

[00:23:52] ignorance of a particular truth does not make you right okay it's not it's not ignorance is more

[00:23:59] of it no it is you don't know no you don't know the answer and you asking me about a topic that

[00:24:04] you are obviously more well versed in than i am right because you you watch lara logans interview

[00:24:11] so you know way more about this than i do because i didn't watch her interview i don't know the

[00:24:16] ships captain all i'm doing is is you you're making an assertion right you obviously believe

[00:24:21] this is a military attack and so when i asked you okay so the captain did it intentionally it

[00:24:26] wasn't like an attack on the ship it was an attack from the ship that's what i asked you and then

[00:24:31] you responded with a question about the captain and what do you think it means in blah blah blah no

[00:24:37] i'm asking is this the assertion you are making that this was a an attack by the ship not on the ship

[00:24:45] well whoever was in control the ship and do and and i and my reservation about do we know the

[00:24:51] captain that we say is the captain was indeed piloting in the ship and is it possible that it could

[00:24:58] have been hijacked like nine or eleven somebody bum rush the helm took the controls and did the

[00:25:05] dog leg into the pier that's what i'm saying as a as an observer from afar my vantage with

[00:25:12] i asked these intelligent questions because i went to school i went i am educated and i do

[00:25:20] hold several degrees so so yeah i know you say you're just asking questions i know

[00:25:30] what okay did you have any questions about it do you believe the official story sure i don't

[00:25:35] know if i don't know if there actually is an official story yet because we are still in the

[00:25:40] evidence collecting face i'm a patient person see i think i'm a far more patient person you've

[00:25:45] been in a way you've been very patient with me today and you know what i'm just going to exit

[00:25:51] right now before i stumble and trip and say happy Easter if you do celebrate i don't even know

[00:25:58] if you are don't celebrate but i just you and and everybody out there yeah well happy Easter to you

[00:26:05] Winston or Steve i appreciate the call um i think what happened my guess is that the ship was loaded

[00:26:14] with thermite that's what i think happened and that on board there was a safe

[00:26:21] that had in it uh the Epstein client list as well as all of the videos from p ditties estate

[00:26:34] i think that's what they were taken out i think that was the that was the op

[00:26:40] yeah no i have not seen lara logans report i do not know the the the captain of the ship's name

[00:26:47] like i'm like i'm i'm i'm allowing sort of the rescuers to to and the search and rescue teams like to go

[00:26:54] and like get the bodies out of the water first and let the family bury their dead like i feel like

[00:27:00] there's probably enough time after they start doing when they yeah because they're doing the

[00:27:04] investigation right now and i know they're not going to tell me everything because you know who

[00:27:08] the heck am i um but again this is one of those things where it's like people trying to find answers

[00:27:14] and trying to make connections and i went over the casterade that you know i think a lot of times

[00:27:18] people try to connect dots on things but also to uh to get in front of explanations by making up some

[00:27:27] so this way they can say i knew it all along and i don't know what feeds that uh i've always been more

[00:27:35] of uh okay well let me see what they say let me see what they say and then once i hear all of that

[00:27:39] then okay now i can ask some uh some follow-up questions let us go to the phone lines here's

[00:27:45] david welcome to the show david how are you good how are you doing i'm good man what's up

[00:27:52] i you know just following up with the last caller that you had on the line man i'm kind of curious

[00:27:57] know why you've worked on the boat hmm walking all this take place you know yeah no that's a fair

[00:28:04] that's a fair if you jump ship and swim to shore and then run back here and that's a fair question david

[00:28:11] you've said too much uh you're gone can we delete this delete that yeah delete that call out of

[00:28:18] the record that never happened you never heard david raise that question

[00:28:25] i was never anywhere near the boat

[00:28:30] kirk welcome to the show hello kirt mr. calendar

[00:28:35] yeah i want to make a comment about that silly man who called in with all those silly questions

[00:28:41] okay the captain has nothing to do with piloting a ship through a harbor that is the pilot

[00:28:48] master or the harbor master they come on their ship they bring them in and they take them out

[00:28:55] they are extremely tenacious individuals if that man crashed it was out of his hand in some way

[00:29:04] for the best he probably could have done if he lost props was drops and stern injuries and

[00:29:11] pray to god they catch yeah i spent four years on the class carry there were many a time where we

[00:29:19] was supposed to be under way at six a.m. and we're waiting for the harbor master to come on board

[00:29:24] and guide hours you had to stay fully ship out of a harbor hmm so that guy oh my goodness gracious

[00:29:32] he was driving me food to so what you're saying then kirt what i understand you saying is that

[00:29:40] this is all a distraction that the captain people telling us that it's the captain's fault

[00:29:46] they are part of the conspiracy when in fact it's actually the harbor master

[00:29:51] hey there's the harbor master in the library with the candlestick yes

[00:30:07] hey no it wasn't the candlestick oh oh that's it then i lost the game

[00:30:13] what you got one of those behemoths moving that is a top drink to slow down wait wait wait

[00:30:18] hang on a second are you are you telling me that it takes a long time to turn a ship oh my goodness

[00:30:24] yes wow that like that could be that could be like a metaphor and we could use that for all sorts of

[00:30:32] other things you know like turning around a failing business or something like wow this is going

[00:30:37] to take a while to turn this ship around yeah i like it hey kirt i appreciate the call sir thank

[00:30:42] you this is very interesting learned a lot from kirt today all right that'll do it for this

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