AP Dillon on protests & that mysterious migrant facility in Greensboro (04-21-2025--Hour3)

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[00:00:28] It is Monday, and so it's 2 o'clock, and that means we talk with AP Dillon, a reporter for the North State Journal. You can also read her Substack newsletter called More to the Story. AP, how are you? Great, Pete. How are you? I am well. Hope you had a good weekend. I did. Got a bunch of stuff. I saw you were cranking out a lot of pieces, both on your Substack and at North State Journal. So let me start with, oh gosh, where to start?

[00:00:56] Let's start with the anti-Trump protests in North Carolina. I wonder if we took all of the protests that we saw on Saturday all around the state and we put them all in one place, do you think it would be as large as the MoMoMo, the Moral Monday movement? Um, yes. Probably one of their larger ones. I know that there were dozens of protests across the state. The biggest one was in Raleigh. There was another one in Durham.

[00:01:24] Um, and there was another one in Asheville, um, which should have made more headlines than it did. Yeah. Featuring a tableau of individuals dressed up like the MS-13 gang members who were deported to the Seacott prison in El Salvador in the white shorts and shirts and everything.

[00:01:44] Um, and they've got a banner in the background that has 1945 German concentration camp on one side and the 2020 USA funded concentration camp on the right side, which is the El Salvadorian prison. So they're, they're comparing violent MS-13 gang members being put back into prison in their country of origin with Nazi concentration camps.

[00:02:07] Right. And they're both, these, these two old white dudes are wearing face masks, white t-shirts, white shorts, and white socks, which I guess is the, uh, that's the prison uniform of, uh, the El Salvadorian, uh, sorry. You have to call it the notorious. It's always the notorious prison in El Salvador.

[00:02:30] Um, so yeah, they, they, they, they do not, they do not represent actually very well the, uh, the makeup of the people in the, uh, the Seacott, you know, they're, they're, they have way too few tattoos, for example. That's one of the things I see. Uh, they're, they're very pudgy and they're very old. So, and one of them has like, he's not even bald. He didn't even shave his head for the tableau.

[00:02:53] He's like, he's got some silly little fake bald cap on that. It's just, I don't know. Like that's Asheville though. It's so performative. It's just, it's like theater kids, uh, that are now like 70. It's just kind of sad. My teenage son actually called it cosplay. It is. Absolutely. Yeah, it is cosplay. Um, so, all right. So we had, um, uh, you mentioned, uh, that's the Asheville one with that tableau.

[00:03:23] Uh, but also the same demographic seems to be popping up. I saw photos from Huntersville where they had some people. And by some, I mean like 12, I think that were standing on the side of a road also fitting a particular demographic profile. Um, I saw there was one down in Rock Hill, South Carolina, just across the border here, same demographic profile. Um, I'm not the first one to notice the kinds of people that are coming to these rallies.

[00:03:53] You've noticed it too, right? Um, I have, it seems to be an older set of, of individuals. Um, the one in Raleigh was, uh, was cited as having brought children to it, young children actually. Um, but it seems to be an older set of people. Um, that could be partly in, in due to who's organizing these. Um, I know that the Durham Democrats have been big in organizing their protests and they have an older set of individuals in that group.

[00:04:22] Um, and the poor people's campaign has generally been older individuals too. If we go back to Moral Monday, those protests, um, definitely were, uh, you know, people 55 to 65 and older. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and the poor people's campaign, for people who don't know, that's, um, that's Reverend Barber's operation, right? Yes. Yes. Yes, he started that, oh, almost a decade ago, I think.

[00:04:49] And that was after the Moral Monday movement, if I recall correctly. Yes, it was. He decided that that was, that thing had served its purpose. It was a vehicle that had served its purpose. And he was moving on with this national poor people's campaign, which of course has seen money flow into it. And, um, I have to confirm this, but, uh, it looks like there were taxpayer-funded dollars. Oh, fantastic. What a shock. W-R-A-L live-streamed the Raleigh protest. That was helpful of them. That was very nice.

[00:05:19] Yeah, we got to see all the speakers, but they didn't pay into the crowd at all. Um, so, uh, the Poor People's Campaign on X actually posted one of the crowd photos from about midway through. Um, as of ten minutes before it, they had posted a photo of an empty Halifax mall. Um, but afterwards, it looks like, you know, there's probably two or three hundred people there. Um, not the thousands that the media seems to be portraying. Yeah.

[00:05:44] And this, you say, was not, these protests were not nearly as big as the one that was held earlier this month, either. Yeah, no, definitely not as big as the April 5th one. That one actually was pretty big. Um, this particular protest also, they told their folks who were coming not to bring signs that had swastikas or Nazi symbolism on them. Um, you know, I don't know who needed to hear that, but, uh, they were told not to bring that kind of material. I did see some, though.

[00:06:13] I did see some swastikas that were out there. But, yes, I, yeah, you've got the protest sign guidelines that were issued by 50501 or 50... Yeah, 5051, 50 states, 50 days, 50 protests, one, you know, one movement or whatever it's called. Right. Um, that was... Terrible name. ...that was officially launched on Reddit. It wasn't launched on Reddit. It was, it was, it was platformed there. Right.

[00:06:36] So, okay, so you do know about this, because I, I looked into this as well this morning, uh, because I've seen this hashtag 5051, and it's a terrible name, because when you say it, like, as I say it, it sounds like I'm saying two numbers.

[00:06:49] 50 and then 51, but it's 50501, and it's 50 protests, 50 states, one movement, and they claim that the Reddit originator is somebody who goes by the name of Evolved Fungi, Fungi, yeah, who has not responded to an interview with Rolling Stone.

[00:07:12] Um, and in other posts, he described himself as an engineer by day with a degree in marketing and a fascination with virality. And I'm thinking he means, like, stuff going viral on the internet. So... Yeah, no, that pretty much means to me it's some campaign guy. Right. Who does data, who did his data analytics for a campaign. That's what that says to me. Yeah, it's, it sounds an awful lot like the Occupy, uh, formation, right? Well, Occupy was a testing ground.

[00:07:41] We're seeing all the same chants, all the same signs, all the same complaints, and no one are able to articulate any real reason why they're there. But then, you know, then we saw Black Lives Matter, and we're seeing some of the violent side of the Black Lives Matter, you know, protest kind of things, you know, with the Nazi symbols and, you know, the calls for violence and that sort of thing that we're starting to see coming out of left-leaning groups. And, you know, Indivisible is involved with these protests.

[00:08:10] The Democratic Party is involved with these protests. These things are, you know, they're trying to make it seem like it's organic. Some random Redditor did it. Now, I'm just not buying that. No, I'm not either. Not at all. And I did like in their protest sign guidelines, as you mentioned, you know, no swastikas. Limit the use of offensive or vulgar language. Don't not do it. Just, like, limit it. And consider language suitable for children and families.

[00:08:38] So I'm guessing they're going to, like, read a bunch of the dirty books at these events, and they would be okay. Like, if you can find it on the bookshelf at your kid's kindergarten class, then you can read it at the protest. Like, what does count as suitable for children among these people? I don't even know. That's a very good question. Yeah. Where do you draw the line on that? Can I show the gay porn sketches from the comic books? I don't know.

[00:09:04] There were a lot of signs there that had to do with immigration, too, which actually ties into the shutting down of the Greensboro intake facility that DHS had leased since, I don't know, June of 2022. Yeah, we've talked about this before. Migrant children, and not a single child was housed there. Right. So that, to me, I was not aware of this. So this was the former American Hebrew Academy in Greensboro. You wrote about this at North State Journal, NSJOnline.com.

[00:09:34] That was originally supposed to, it was, like, converted to this, like, ICE facility or something, right? And they were supposed to be housing all of these kids. And nobody, they never put any kids in there? I thought we saw images and video of vehicles rolling up with people. That was the thing. The entire time, DHS and the Office of Refugee Resettlement under DHS,

[00:10:01] they basically said that no children had ever been housed there, yet about a summer ago, I had someone who lived in the neighborhood in that area send me a bunch of photos of buses with blackened-out windows heading in and out of that facility. So who or what was on those buses, I don't know. I've never gotten an answer out of the federal agencies or of Greensboro Academy. We actually went and visited that place a year ago.

[00:10:29] We walked up to the gate and asked if someone could come talk to us. And it was staffed by contracted, you know, security personnel who basically told me, no, in certain terms, no, no one's going to come talk to you and you need to get off the property. They did get paid, though, right? I mean, you got some contracts for that service, deployed services. Deployed services, yeah. There was a couple million dollars that went to them.

[00:10:54] There was $600,000 in handyman services dated back to September 2022. Various support and upkeep for leasing and repairs. And what's interesting about that property is that there was a loan document on that original property when it was the American Hebrew Academy.

[00:11:13] And the loan documentation ping-ponged back and forth over the last two years between two Chinese-tied entities that have their accounting in the Cayman Islands. That is not at all shady whatsoever. Yeah, yeah. Two of them had direct, their documentation was actually signed in the American Embassy in Beijing, China. And one of them had direct ties to the Communist Party. Nice.

[00:11:42] So, not sure anyone's really looking into that anymore, but I reported on it. We'll see where that goes. Yeah. But the overall lease itself is for millions of dollars. And so it's supposedly just empty now? Yeah, supposedly it's just empty. They had used it after Hurricane Helene. They had used it for a couple months in order to do staging and hurricane relief operations. I think it was from October to February. So, October of last year through February of this year.

[00:12:11] And they announced recently that it's closing down on April 1. So, it's closed up now. I don't know. Maybe we can sell it off to El Salvador. I don't know. Rent it out. I don't know what's going to happen with that, but I'm just watching it. All right. AP Dillon, you can read her work at North State Journal, NSJOnline.com, and also subscribe to her newsletter at Substack.com. It's called More to the Story. AP Dillon, thanks so much. Good to talk with you. Absolutely. Thanks, Pete. Take care. All right. So, spring is here. A time of renewal and celebrations.

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[00:13:56] And then word got out that there were buses coming in and what is being used for, you know, some Border Patrol operations or whatever. And this was at the height of the Biden administration, you know, busing people all over the country, basically engaged in human trafficking. Right. And we started seeing buses with people getting, you know, let off of them in the dead of night.

[00:14:23] And this became one of those same types of sites. FEMA staff did use it for a bit after Hurricane Helene. A.P. reports that the original lease for the school, which was renamed to the Greensboro Influx Care Facility or the ICF. The lease for it was five years beginning June 2022.

[00:14:51] The lease was entered into by the Biden administration's Department of Health and Human Services for just under $50 million. More than $241 million was spent on leasing, repairs, security and general upkeep starting when the lease began in 2022 through its termination.

[00:15:14] So we spent a quarter of a billion dollars in taxpayer money, it sounds like, for this facility that never housed any of the migrant children. Because this was supposed to be a more humane thing, right? Then the kids in cages, right? The Office of, was it Refugee Resettlement or the ORR or the ORR.

[00:15:42] They claimed that the site had remained unused for migrant children, but residents living near the facility told the North State Journal that charter buses with blacked out windows had been seen coming and going from the facility during the 2023 year. And you heard A.P. talk about that. And then to go into the property transactions, this is very interesting.

[00:16:09] While the former American Hebrew Academy property has not seen much physical activity in the past three years, it has seen transactions involving foreign actors. Property records showed $26 million in loans related to the property had changed hands between two companies with ties to the People's Republic of China.

[00:16:32] Around $15 million of an original $26 million loan assigned to Puxin Limited or Puxin, P-U-X-I-N or Puxin, I guess it might be. Puxin Limited. So $15 million of the $26 million loan was transferred from Puxin to Metabroad International Group and Hai Holdings.

[00:16:59] Some of the transfer documents were actually signed at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing. This is all super shady. Super shady. It just, it looks shady. Now, it might not be, right? It's possible. It might not be. It's like, it's like these 50-51 protests that we're seeing.

[00:17:22] CNN calls it 50-51 demonstrations condemning what they describe as Trump's executive overreach, including deportations without due process, the dismantling of federal agencies, and threats to higher education.

[00:17:36] By the way, am I supposed to understand this is the standard now that you can violate any rule whatsoever to enter, but we cannot remove you unless we run you through a trial? Is that the idea? Like, the people who come in legally, they go through a process that takes them years, like a decade or so.

[00:18:05] And they have to jump through all the hoops, right? They've got to constantly prove who they are and what they're doing and everything else. And you can break all those rules. You don't have to follow any of that stuff. And then when you get here, no, no, no, now you demand that we follow the rules that you ignored to arrive here. That's the standard, so I get to break all of the rules. Yeah. Like, to me, it's very simple. Who are you?

[00:18:34] We've identified you. You are not in this country legally. That's very easy to determine, apparently. And then we send you back. The issue arises when you have people who are criminals from other countries, and those countries don't want to take them back, or we have no diplomatic relations with that country like Venezuela, and they refuse to allow our planes to land there. They won't take their people back. What do you do with them?

[00:19:03] Do we just have to leave them out on the streets in America? Because they've committed no crime in America, right? What do you do with them? What do you do with somebody who is to be deported back to Venezuela? Venezuela won't take them. And they've committed no crime here. Did they just get to stay? It seems like that's the standard that I'm being told we have to now have.

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[00:21:05] Oh, but look, this is one of the reasons why the Democrat Party put David Hogg into the vice president's chair in their party. Right? David Hogg, the guy who, you know, made a career for himself and got himself accepted into Harvard, even though his grades were lousy.

[00:21:29] But they took him because he was an activist leftist after his high school was the scene of a shooting, right? The Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School down in Parkland, Florida, right? And so David Hogg became one of the three kids from that school that started the, what was the name of that group? Not the People's Choice.

[00:21:58] That's no, those were awards. But I forget what their organization was called. It's still around. But you never see the other two. One of the guys, there was a guy, a girl, and Hogg. And I didn't mean it like that. That's his name, Hogg. I didn't mean it. Anyway. So the guy, he kind of disappeared. Oh, March for Our Lives. That's the name of the organization.

[00:22:28] March for Our Lives. And so the guy just kind of disappeared. And the last thing I ever remember reading about him was that he was trying to educate himself on guns. Because after the shooting at the school, he, you know, they launched this, you know, March for Our Lives, you know, protect the schools, save the kids' lives, all of this.

[00:22:56] And he started getting a lot of challenges from Second Amendment rights advocates. And he became very aware that he did not know what he was talking about as it relates to firearms. And so he went out to a shooting range. Somebody took him to a shooting range. And I remember him talking about it, or I read an interview with him about it. And I remember coming away. I don't remember what he said.

[00:23:25] I don't have the story in front of me. This is just off the top of my head from memory, which was that he had expressed something that seemed an awful lot like, huh, that was kind of fun. I can see why people like doing this. And then I never heard from him again. I don't even know if he's still part of it. And the girl, the last I heard, she was like, I'm not binary, everybody. And they were like, oh, so brave. And then I never heard from her again. And now it's just hog.

[00:23:56] So. Anyway, Democrats think that this guy, and I think he's now probably late 20s. They think he's going to be the one that's going to, I guess, like win back the youth male vote. I mean, have you seen him? He's very. No. Yeah. A stiff breeze will knock this kid over. Okay. He looks like a Q-tip.

[00:24:22] I don't mean, I don't mean like it just like because he's so skinny. He has like no body fat or muscle. He's skin and bones. And he's got a very large head with a haircut that he can control. He can control that haircut. And the haircut makes his head look even bigger. So he looks kind of like a Q-tip to me. I'm not trying to be mean. I really am not. I'm just saying he just strikes me like that.

[00:24:48] So anyway, he's also really annoying and wrong about like everything. So this is a piece by David Strom, HotAir.com. The immensely annoying hero of the Democratic left isn't on a mission to get Democrats elected. He is determined to move a party that is already far left of the country even more leftward. And that is not sitting well with a lot of Democrats who actually want to win.

[00:25:21] This is so fantastic. Remember, don't call it a civil war. Those only happen inside the Republican Party. This is Democrats in disarray. Although I think, well, the name of the piece at HotAir.com is the Democrat civil war rages on. Because it is. When I have said that we are witnessing a realignment of the political parties, right? It's not just the Republicans. Republicans started on this path earlier than the Democrats did, I think.

[00:25:49] We are now seeing this is the they are reaping what they have sown. And the movement away of all of these demographic groups away from the Democrat Party is leaving. Sort of the the old guard that has the power, the more moderate Democrats. Very few of them remain. Right. And then these far leftists. Because when I've talked about this before, this phenomenon happens in all sorts of organizations

[00:26:17] where you have a bunch of people that join. They're all united in a cause or whatever. And then as people peel away, you saw this with like the LGBT movement as well, where after gay marriage was legalized, a lot of your more moderate centrist types of people left the movement, quote unquote. They didn't feel the need to go and participate in the marches or, you know, to speak at government meetings or make donations and such.

[00:26:46] And so what you had left was the more radical fringe elements in that organization. And that's what you're seeing in the Democrat Party right now. And David Hogg being elevated to vice chair. Is proof of that. Let me get James on real quick. Hey, James, welcome to the show. Hey, Mr. Hogg, one of our all-time favorite people.

[00:27:13] He built his entire political career, although I understand his father was the big time left winger, on the fact that he survived the Parkland shooting. He wasn't at school that day. Correct. He was not at the school at the time of the shooting. He did arrive after with a video camera, and that's what made him famous. So his entire political career is based on why.

[00:27:43] It would seem so. I don't know if he goes out there and says that he was there. What I've heard him say are things that are nebulous enough where he can claim, like, he'll say, oh, yeah, I was at the school that day. And that's technically true. But he wasn't there at the time of the shooting. But he gives this illusion. He allows people to believe that, you know, he witnessed the murders and such.

[00:28:11] Like, that's what he lets people believe. That's part of his persona, his public persona, his origin story. And he knows almost as much about guns as my one-and-a-half-year-old house cat. Well, that is on brand. Yeah. James, I appreciate it, buddy. Thank you. No, that's exactly right. So it's one of the things that's always rubbed me wrong about David Hogg. Ugh. He has two Gs on his name. That's why I say it that way. All right.

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[00:29:57] Leaders We Deserve announced plans to spend $20 million to assist in electing younger Democratic leaders, including primary challengers to incumbent House Democrats. So let's just chart this out. Like, we're going to do a little flow chart here, okay? David Hogg for the Democrat Party vice chair. Okay? David Hogg is the Democrat Party vice chair.

[00:30:25] He also co-founded a group, Leaders We Deserve. And that group is going to primary members of the party that David Hogg is the party vice chair of. As party vice chair, you're supposed to be going around trying to get Democrats elected. And I guess technically you would if you are trying to primary a Democrat with another Democrat in a Democrat primary, right?

[00:30:53] But this is not sitting very well with Democrats, particularly the older generation Democrats, who actually want to win elections. And they're like, if you primary moderate Democrats or whatever passes for moderate Democrat nowadays, you primary those guys and gals with far-left moonbats, you're going to lose the general election. You're going to further marginalize our party.

[00:31:22] The New York Times... Or sorry, no. This was from Politics War Room Podcast. And the Raging Cajun, James Carville. He said that Hogg should resign from his post as the DNC vice chair for targeting members of his own party. He said, quote, Wait a minute, let me just say, he's my chairman of the Democratic National Committee. That's a little bit more like Strom Thurmond. I apologize.

[00:31:51] That was my first run at a Carville impression. He was the vice chairman of the Democratic National Committee. Anyway. And he's talking about raising $20 million to primary other Democrats. Well, when I look at the DNC, ideally, it should be an organization that's trying to beat Republicans, not other Democrats.

[00:32:13] When you're talking about using the power of the DNC, whatever power it has, not very much, but you're using that and we are paying, the Democratic donors are paying David Hogg's salary. They are paying David Hogg's staff. And he wants to run against Democrats. He says, oh, look, run against who the bleep you want to, but resign your position. Have guts, man. Have guts. Stand your ground.

[00:32:41] I don't think that's part of the Democratic coalition. I don't think they're redeemable. I don't think they want to be redeemed. Carville then repeated a prior suggestion that far left individuals should just formally break away from the Democratic Party. Oh, look at Carville trying to. Reason and beg for mercy from some leftists. That's adorable. Dude, you know they don't do that. Mercy is not one of the things they do. Sorry.

[00:33:12] I just find this rich because being on the right. Right. Seeing the way the leftists behave towards the right and the quote moderate Democrats and the Democrat Party and all that. They have ignored. The abuses of the leftists against people on the right because it allowed the Democrats to achieve and detain and retain power. But now, now.

[00:33:40] Well, you've been feeding that alligator hoping it would eat you last. The leftward lurch of the Democrats has a long history, writes David Strom. And what is happening now is a recapitulation of what happened in the 60s and 70s. A move that put them in the political wilderness. It spawned the Democratic Leadership Council, which gave us Bill Clinton and a partial Democratic Party revival.

[00:34:07] But such a revival will be much more difficult this time, given that the working class base of the party has shifted rightward. The working class base of the party. Do they go back? Are they going back because they voted for Trump because the Democrat Party wasn't left wing enough? No, of course not.

[00:34:32] The current base of the party now is really far left and hog is proof of that. The DNC, you'll recall, had to rig the nomination process to install Hillary Clinton. And then they did the same in 2020 to install Joe Biden, hoping he would be a moderate president. But he wasn't or his handlers weren't right. President Autopen wasn't. Right.

[00:35:00] He lurched far left on social and economic issues and was only tempered by the greed and corruption of the Democrat oligarch class. Kamala Harris's loss has crippled even that wing of the party now, giving power to the awfuls, the affluent white female liberals. And the Democrat brown shirts who embrace socialism, political violence, and who might find AOC a bit too moderate for their tastes.

[00:35:30] Liberals are frothing in furious rage and not only at Republicans. A record number have lost faith in the Democratic Party. Its favorability has never been this bad. Liberals are begging, pleading for new leaders and a new direction. They want to go further left. They want to go to war.

[00:35:59] Hogg, David Strom says, Hogg is not the cause of this shift. He's a symptom, basically. Right. Bernie Sanders. Not the cause. Barack Obama was the most effective of the bunch and did further the cause. But he at least presented himself as a center-left, acceptable Democrat who incrementally pushed the party leftward. Wasn't really, you know, hardcore revolutionary. Didn't speak the language of a revolutionary.

[00:36:27] Like AOC screeches from the podium after getting off of her first class plane ride. The consultant class and the oligarchs are now panicking. Seeing the face of the party becoming the AOCs instead of the leftist but boring Pete Buttigieg. Buttigieg may be in the lead right now for the presidential nomination, but that's only because the leftists are split. He's not that far ahead of AOC.

[00:36:57] And as people drop out of the Democrat primary running, right, these, and it's way early, I know, but people are already starting to, you know, make their moves. And once the, you know, people make their moves, they announce their candidacies and then they drop out because they're not getting enough support, then the far left will coalesce around somebody more like AOC than Pete Buttigieg.

[00:37:23] All the energy is on the side of the leftists who think political assassinations of Trump or Musk would be justified. And that's not hyperbole. 55% of liberals told Rutgers University that this would be fine with them. The assassinations of Trump and Musk. 55% of liberals. They applaud riots. They worship Luigi Mangione and Carmelo Anthony. Right. Murderers.

[00:37:53] Assassins. Look at the way they're handling this, you know, MS-13 guy. Democrats who want to win are desperate to move to the center, but the Democrat base wants hog. That's the problem for the Democrats now. I don't know. Look, I'm not here to advise them on how to win because I would prefer they don't. I don't want them to win.

[00:38:18] And so to that extent, the further to the left the Democrats go as a party, I think the better it is for the rest of the country. Because they become so unattractive that now nobody will vote for them. But I don't know what's going to happen with the Republican Party either. Who knows? And Strom says, James Carville is a jerk and not exactly in touch with 2020's America. But on this, he is right.

[00:38:45] The Democrats are imploding and the Civil War will rage on for quite a while. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast. So if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecalendershow.com. Again, thank you so much for listening and don't break anything while I'm gone.