AP Dillon on McFadden's removal and the murder of a Wake teacher (01-05-2026--Hour3)

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Yes, so all righty, So I have to say, I know I got two stories here to cover with you, But did you hear the good news about our sheriff? Actually yes, I got the press release and I got that thing shotgunned down onto X with the documentation post haste. In fact, I think I got it out there first. But I am so happy today, so happy we got rid of three comies, we got Maduro, Tim Walls, and now McFadden, Like this is a great day. Twenty twenty six is awesome. So far, it's. Definitely batting a valid at this point. It's quite the petition. It's over thirty few pages long and basically it's a house about Carla Cunningham d Mecklenburg has filed a petition along with three or four former members of the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office against Sheriff Macbedden, basically demanding his removal from office. Right this, Yeah, this is the only way to do it, sort of, you know, arresting him for something criminal in nature. But the press release said it was for attended extortion, corruption, wilful misconduct, and maladministration office, as well as wilful and habitual refusal to perform the duties of his office. Yeah, it's it is like what they lay out. So we knew from the four member there, the prior employees, right, the four other members besides Carla Cunningham, we knew about these types of issues and some of these accusations that had been going on for several years since McFadden first was elected eight years ago. Well, yeah, and he did that video last fall about all the staff departures, so you finally had to address it right, normally right. And then remember he gave some bizarre speech at the graduation ceremony for new deputies. You know, he made the whole event about him and how he's being attacked and all of a studden, like the guy is a raging, narcissistic sociopath, in my opinion, non clinical. But I was not aware, and I don't think anybody had heard the about the phone call with Carla Cunningham and how he tried to what she says was to intimidate her, threaten her with physical harm or not providing security to her during the fight over House Built three eighteen, which was you know where she jumped over to vote with the Republicans to make him make McFadden cooperate with Ice, and he called her up and you know, made these z would be a shame if anything happened to your nice little business there kind of comments, and she hung up on him and took it as a threat. That's yeah, she did. Serious. I've got a story working right now at North State Journal and hopefully it'll drop here in the next thirty minutes. My editors are going over right now. But I wrote that thing up real fast. About this. Basically, she basically says he threatened her for her vote on that and that if she didn't vote her way that it was she was going to have a rough time and he wasn't going to protect her because she was getting death threats even from her own party for going along with Republicans. She was the one vote needed to override the veto. Right, and all credit to her, she held firm, she held the line. It did. Yeah, and uh. I mean, and there's nothing in that bill that's you know, outrageous, to be honest, I mean, it's it's just closing loopholes that McFadden himself was using to not do his job when it came to Ice. Right, And that tells you, well, he kept saying, oh, I you know, I will cooperate with Ice and I'm not the hold up. I'm not the impediment. That's why I call him not my fault McFadden. It's because nothing is ever his fault. There's always somebody else to blame for whatever problems are occurring at the jail, including the number of deaths that occurred at the jail, which was a that was an issue for Cunningham. She was not She was very concerned about all of the deaths and wanted more inspections. And then he would attack the inspectors and oh, they're just targeting me, and it's not my fault and all of this. But during the debate on House Bill three eighteen, you know, he kept making it sound like, oh, I'm doing I'm doing everything that I can do, and this bill won't really do anything, and I'm not already doing and all this. But that phone call that sort of gives away the game. He knew that they were closing down the last loophole that he was exploiting. That's what that tells me. Well, yeah, I mean that kind of telegraph. Yeah. Some of the other items, and here from some of the former employees were pretty pretty damning as well. Basically, the detention officers are being assaulted by inmates apparently regularly, and instead of reducing their privileges or writing them up or pressing charges. McFadden is not doing anything and in fact would go after the officer instead of the inmates. That we don't call them inmates here. Gary wants them to be called residents, of which their residence. The inmates were any need to acts. I'm not gonna I'm not going to do that. Yeah, that's that's that reminds me of the whole you know, calling homeless people unhoused. Yeah, experiencing unhousedness, or some staff experience. Experiencing no no lodging or why it's just okay, so. One of the yeah, so one of the things that McFadden this is like the problem is that you know, the people that get released, you get the magistrates rolling all of this stuff too. You had a story I read this is over on your sub Stack newsletter. More to the story, this awful story about a thirty two year old teacher named Zoe Welsh, a science teacher at Ravenscroft School. Apparently, what two days ago, six thirty in the morning, somebody breaks into her house and beats her to death. Yeah, while she was on the phone with nine one one guy break it in. He sees her on the phone and he beat her and she didn't die immediately. She was transported to the hospital, but she succumbed to her injuries after. So they did catch the guy. Yeah, they looked around and they finally found him. That he was He hadn't gone far. Yes, a guy named Ryan Vincent Camacho. And yeah, he's got a record, and yeah, he's released pretty recently on similar charges and the the the involuntary commitment evaluation was rejected, so he was released and it was a dismissal without leave with no plea agreement. All right, so he has a You write in your piece here that he's got a long criminal history going back over two decades, including charges for burglary, theft, trespassing, breaking and entering, discharge of the firearment occupied property, assault with the deadly weapon, misdemeanor, stalking, misdemeanor, larceny, injury to personal property, and violating parole. So what is the timeline here? What that he it's what he had? What a court date or something on December fourth? Is that the Well in August it looks like he had been arrested for breaking and entering, an injury du real property and miscellaneous misdemean larceny in Raleigh, but near the end of July twenty twenty five, court records show that he was taking a plea deal in Durham for breaking, entering, larcity and pearl valations. So he had multiple things going on over the summer, and those court records show that he in December fourth, we'll see December fourth, twenty twenty five, that was the last note on the Wait County larceny, breaking and entering injury duil property case. The final note on that was on December fourth, and it read order to commit defendant for examination and capacity to proceed. And there's no there's nothing after that except for the case dismissal without leave, no plea agreement, so that committal examination apparently never right. So this is the involuntary commitment proceedings, much like the Arena Zarutska murderer. Uhh yeah, an arena's law if they have a history of this kind of violent activity over a three year period, recent three year period that that has he has to have that mandatory examination. But you know they're gonna they're gonna basically split hairs here and say that you know this guy, you know who was just larcy and breaking and entering the you know, the the violent activities were several years back, four or five years back, so that that wouldn't have applied here. But you know the spirit of the laws people from repeat offenders from going back out there. Right and and just simple you know, you know, a burgler, a burglar, you know, somebody who's breaking into places, stealing stuff whatever. Like, there has to be something other than that that would have prompted that order to to commit sright, something something ha happened there, right, because otherwise, okay, you got this, you know, professional burglar. But that that doesn't it doesn't seem to me like that would be enough to order an involuntary commitment unless that was an effort to keep him off the streets for some reason. I suspect that they, like the public defender or the DA or somebody in the court proceeding in dealing with him, probably figured something's not right with this guy. He needs to go in for a psych event. I think there was something wrong with him because the original charge for the Durham case from July, the original charge was was pleed down to a lesser charge. The original charge five was break enter terrorized injurer so, and he was given credit for one hundred and thirteen days in jail for time served against a one hundred and twenty the day sentence. So he served a week. Yeah, yeah, just one extra week after something. You know. I mean, Arena's law was effective December first. This note on his Way County case was from December fourth, So Arena's law was in effect, right, And that Durham case, the original charge, had it not been put down, that charge would have shown up and he would have had to have been required to have that examination. And maybe that's maybe they saw the prior charge and maybe that's why they they wanted to get him in for a psyche val. I don't know, I mean, yeah, there's just a lot of questions here. I don't know if I don't know if something fell through the cracks or somebody wasn't sure, or if this. Was intentionally a messy case. Yeah. Fact those charges were dismissed without leave, with no plea agreement in place, and they just you know, gave him basically time served while he was waiting to have his court date. You know it just given his history, Yeah, it seemed a little bit light. Yeah. Well, and now a woman is dead because of that. So yep, all right, we'll leave it there. AP. I appreciate your work as always. That's AP Dylan. You can read her work at her sub stack newsletter. It's called More to the Story. You can also read her work at the North State Journal and asjonline dot com. 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I use the Vantage plan to unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. All right, so I have to acknowledge what is evident to all who have been listening. I'm very happy today. I did not start off the day very happy, but I have become very happy. Why For almost three years I have been highlighting the course of action that can be taken to remove the toxic sheriff of Mecklmer County, Gary. Not my fault, macfadden. There is a provision in state law that allows for the removal of a sheriff and it outlines you know what specifically they can be removed for and what process, what the process looks like. It only takes five what are called qualified electors. Those are just voters, So five voters registered voters in Mecklimburg County. That's all it requires. The problem is is that if it was just me, right, if I were to just be on the petition along with you four other just randoms from the county. We couldn't make the kinds of serious allegations that would then trigger this court proceeding. The court proceeding would be tried either by the district attorney or the Mecklimberg County attorney. We'll see where it goes and who tries it. I don't know. It's going to be tried in the district court, so we'll see what judge gets it, and may be the chief judge, I don't know. But this is going to be a test for the local Democrat party because the accusation are legitimate, and we've known about this stuff. I've been, you know, beating this drum for three years saying this is how you have to try to get him out because he's running for reelection again. And now that he announced that he does intend to seek reelection for a third term, like Democrats could put him back into office and they look they still very very well might Like we could see how this could go is he gets ousted and then he gets re elected. That could happen. There was a sheriff, I forget where it was, down east someplace. He got ousted through this same mechanism about a year ago. I want to say, and then they held a special election and he ran for reelection and he won. So that could still happen here with McFadden, But the name fature of the allegations again particularly from what appeared to be for and I haven't gone through the entire petition to confirm that all four of the other petitioners besides State Representative Carla Cunningham, that they are all former employees. It appears they are all former employees. And according to the petition filed with the court by a law firm located in Raleigh representing the petitioners here, since assuming the office of sheriff, McFadden committed a wide range of misconduct in office that warrants his removal, and the petition concerns the following general categories of misconduct. A misconduct relating to conditions at the Mecklimer County Detention Center and jail administration. B Retaliation against crime victims and good faith whistleblowers. C misuse of office resources, including violations of the Federal Hatch Act. D misconduct relating to staffing and promotion practices. E. Weaponizing the machinery of the Mecklemburg County Sheriff's Office Internal Affairs Unit against perceived enemies while squelching internal investigations into perceived allies and f threats against a state legislator, which which amount to attempted extortion and bribery. And in the last hour I went through that component with Carla Cunningham. So if you miss that, get the podcast. It's available on all the podcasting platforms, on the WBT app and at the peatpod dot com. Okay, so from the petition misconduct relating to jail conditions, will use the term inmates to refer to all persons here. Okay, Oh, that's good because he you know, McFadden doesn't call them inmates, he calls them residents. McFadden has cultivated a reputation for ruthlessness and retaliation against any subordinate who raised concerns about his management of the Sheriff's Office or the jail, his ethics, or about the safety of correctional staff, detention officers, and inmates there. McFadden appears to view inmates, including certain violent criminals with whom he has a personal connection. He appears to view inmates and their families and friends as his most important constituents. Correct, correct, That's why you end up building a recording studio and bringing some accused murderer in there for a photo op with the local media and never tell the victim's family that that you're gonna highlight this guy and his rap career. McFadden prides himself on his personal connections with inmates, including some of the most violent felons in Mecklimber County. In an unusual move for a sheriff, McFadden gives out his personal cell phone number to inmates and their families. That's not misconduct per se. Maintaining personal connections with witnesses in high crime areas was undoubtedly an effective source of information when McFadden was a homicide detective, I Am Homicide. That was his TV show that he got where he used his old detective files, probably unethically so, but he used those old files to turn into a TV show and talked about how he cracked cases and the name of the show was I Am Homicide. So while that probably was an effective source of information before becoming sheriff and obtaining such information was part of his job. Rather, McFadden's practice of giving inmates and their families personal access to him is emblematic of the culture that McFadden has created, in which demonstrations of personal loyalty to McFadden lead him to intervene in favor of supplicants, directing subordinates to ignore otherwise applicable rules and policies. What is what is he? What is this describing He's he's buddying up to criminals and the criminals families and then he gives them privileges via the staff. Yeah, this isn't good. The more I read the well, the worse it is, and the happier I get. You know, Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life and art. Stories are told through images and videos. 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Been reading through the petition that has been filed now seeking the removal by court ruling of Mecklimber County Sheriff Gary my Fault McFadden on a slew of allegations related to maladministration as well as threats, bribery and extortion that were communicated by him to State Representative Carla Cunningham in a phone call where he was trying to convince her to change her vote and block the House Bill three eighteen, bill that would force him to cooperate with Ice. Right, and remember he said that the bill wasn't needed, it wouldn't really do anything, there's all these problems with it and whatever, and he kept minimizing it while that bill was making its way through the legislature, and the reason it was going through the legislature was because he was once again using loopholes to avoid cooperating with Ice, while claiming he really wants to cooperate with Ice. But that phone call that he made in July to Carla Cunningham is proof that he's been lying. He wanted that bill defeated, and he pressured her to flip her vote and credit to her and her intestinal fortitude, her bravery and standing up to a literally a violent mob. She had to have police security, she had to hire private security. These were leftists that were mad at her because she was voting with the Republicans on this bill that she supported. She supported working with Ice. She's been consistent on that position too, and she bucked her party and voted with Republicans to override Governor Stein's veto, and so it became law. House Bill three eighteen became law. And it was a very tumultuous summer for her. She was targeted and then she gets this call from him, who basically he says like, oh, you know, be ashamed something happened to you. I don't want any harm to come from you know, the people are gonna come after you, and I don't want to see you harmed. You know, you live in my county, like my county, it's not your county. So that's the like, that's the probably the more newsworthy, but like in a way it's not because the record here of McFadden's maladministration, his wilful neglect overseeing the detention center and staff. This has been well known. We've talked about this for years. We had one of his chief deputies in here after he quit, and he wrote a big letter public letter. Kevin Canty, who is one of the people on this petition, goes on to state McFadden's policy of providing personal direct access to him for the inmates and the inmates' families, giving them his personal cell phone number you call me. Its side steps the usual chain of command, and it encouraged inmates to take their complaints about jail discipline or conditions directly to him. But inmates generally don't complain when rules are not enforced, only when they are. When inmates or their families complain about the enforcement of rules, McFadden usually gives them what they want. He doesn't change policy. He simply makes ad hoc decisions or exceptions or orders non enforcement of the rules. In so doing, McFadden undermines the authority of his detention officers and staff. McFadden is frequently heard to say that there is no chain of command and disparaging the concept of a chain of command. His stated desire is that line employees and inmates with complaints should all come directly to him. But by undermining his employees and managers, and by creating ad hoc exceptions to policies rather than just changing the policy, he ultimately creates unsafe conditions at the jail. McFadden has removed and or intentionally under enforced jail policies and safety measures that existed to minimize the flow of contraband into the jail and sure that correctional staff could maintain physical control, segregate the most violent inmates from other portions of the jail population, and limit the most violent inmates access to certain portions of the facility. These rules existed to promote innate and staff safety. On information and belief, McFadden knows that his decisions have increased the prevalence of assaults and contraband within the jail. The jail is dramatically understaffed and requires correctional employees to work mandatory over time. It takes eighty one deputies to staff a shift, but during the last few years, shifts are frequently assigned to just thirty or forty officers, sometimes even fewer. It's half staffing. Some assigned officers are on medical leave at any given time, so shifts are staffed even more leanly in practice. When McFadden took office, the Sheriff's Office employed thirteen hundred people. Within three years, that figure dropped to around eight hundred. It is now at about seven seventy. He's lost half of the staff. This is why I call him. Not my fault. McFadden like, oh, we can't open jail North. It's not my fault. I can't hire people. We're all fishing from the same pier into the same pool of applicants, and nobody wants to work at the Sheriff's Office. And it's not my fault. Yeah, yeah, it is. It absolutely is. How do you go from thirteen hundred employees down to seven hundred and seventy that's you, man. Many officers left because of the intolerable work environment created by McFadden, and many of those who left did not retire or change careers, but instead went to work for other law enforcement agencies in the area. Understaffing leads to unsafe conditions. It was a state policy or county policy, and state policy require four to five officers per hallway. This is also required for American Correctional Association and accreditation, but Mecklenburg County has recently been staffing one to two officers per hallway, or sometimes no hallway personnel at all. That makes officers more vulnerable to assault. Understaffing is the predictable result of McFadden's decision to create a culture that intentionally undermines the authority of the detention officers by encouraging inmates to complain directly to the sheriff whenever the officers try to enforce jail rules. In short, the relaxation and lax enforcement of rules in conjunction with a culture that intentionally undermines the authority of the officers has predictably led to a greater prevalence of weapons, drugs, and other contraband in the jail than was the case prior to his tenure. It also leads to unsafe conditions for inmates and detention officers. And then there are the threats and the retaliation against whistleblowers and crime victims and others. Deputies and other office employees are at will employees who served the pleasure of the sheriff. They have limited protection against demotion, termination, or other retaliation if they speak up against his abuses and frequently reminds his subordinates that they serve at his pleasure, and uses expressed or implied threats of retaliation to deter employees from speaking up about assaults and unsafe conditions at the jail or other abuses. Working as a detention officer or unsworn staff in a jail or prison involves some unavoidable risk of assault. In practice, a lot of minor scuffles that might result in assault charges if they happen in the civilian world end up overlooked or result in internal prison discipline, but no new charges. But assaults resulting in serious injury should be, and in most places are reported, but apparently it's not happening. Here. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville is your connection. 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Call or text eight two eight, three six, seven seventy sixty eight or check out all there is to offer at cabins Offashville dot com and make memories that'll last a lifetime. From the text line, ye, we'll see what else is happening over here. This is Spencer who says, is there any chance of a trial for some infraction? Maybe a jail term for a guilty verdict. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if they Yeah, I mean theoretically you could bring criminal charges for the the extortion, the attempted bribery, you know, like, but this is just a petition to have him removed. And so now that process is underway, and the petitioners are asking that McFadden be suspended pending the adjudication of the petition. So we'll see, we'll see how that goes. And we'll see. First I guess we're gonna we got to find out who's going to who's going to prosecute the petition. Is it the Mecklimber County District Attorney or is it the Mecklimberg County Attorney. So we'll see, let's see, Richard, I'm curious if anyone other than Carla Cunningham was present for that call. Did they record it otherwise, it's her word versus his true that is true. I somewhat doubt that she recorded it, but maybe she did. And the petition makes no mention of somebody else that was there on the or on the call with her and mcfaddott, So we don't know if there's another witness to this. That would be awesome if there was a witness to confirm her account. And then they spring that on him in the trial. Right, It's like he doesn't know if somebody was on the until he lies and says I didn't say those things, and then aha, well we have this witness. She was on the call too, she heard you say it. That would be awesome. Look, I look, okay, I know there are a lot of black pilled people in the audience and they're like, nothing's gonna happen to this guy, right, And I get that feeling. But look, just let me have this moment today, Okay, Please just let me enjoy this for now. We'll see what happens. We'll see, you know, all right, back to the petition, McFadden. This seems problematic, and this is also why that North Carolina House Oversight Committee has summoned McFadden to appear at a hearing in Raleigh on January twenty second. McFadden discourages detention officers from reporting use of force incidents involving inmates and staff within the jail, and has admonished staff from documenting such incidents. Right, so that's one way to get better stats. Say, oh, we run a safe jail here. Yeah, well it's safe if you don't report all the violence by the stats at least in fact on information and believe McFadden has threatened retaliation against detention officers who report assaults by inmates. McFadden's threat to retaliate against crime victims and whistleblowers on his staff has been conveyed through the chain of command two supervisors, who then convey it two line employees. Well that's not smart. So McFadden is telling the supervisors to tell their staff that he will retaliate against the staff if they file these complaints or if they file reports of violence or assaults. And I guess that's the mention of the crime victims. He's talking about staff and detention officers that are victimized by inmates or inmates that are victimized by other inmates, And so he's threatening retaliation against them. You were victimized by an inmate, you were beaten up, you were attacked, or whatever you want to enforce jail rules against that inmate. And McFadden gets a phone call from the inmate's mother who says, oh, you know, he didn't mean it, and oh please don't punish him, please please please, And then McFadden says, I'm going to retaliate against that detention officer if they file a report on this incident. Is that what's happening. McFadden has downplayed injuries sustained by deputies who were assaulted at the jail. McFadden also inevitably blamed jail deputies who were assaulted, including assaults that resulted in serious injury, regardless of the facts. McFadden's threats are not limited to his subordinates. And then it talks about the the phone call with Carla Cunningham. Okay, And then there's this on the misuse of official resources in or around September and October of this past year. So what three months ago McFadden directed that official resources, specifically the work time of information technology staff at the Sheriff's Office, be used to work on his campaign website. Dude, that's a really bright line in the law. How do you not know that you're not supposed to do that? The campaign website not his official business. Obviously, McFadden's misuse of official resources to support his campaign violates the Hatch Act, which prohibits McFadden from directly or indirectly coercing, attempting to coerce, or commanding a state or local officer or employee to contribute anything of value to a political campaign committee. It also violated the Hatch Acts implementing regulations so misused official resources in his treatment of reserve deputies. Sheriffs are allowed to employ reserve deputies on volunteer or unpaid basis if they are otherwise qualified. Often, reserve deputies are retired law enforcement officers from other agencies who wish to keep their law enforcement certification and work private duty security engagements. Law enforcement officers typically must complete a certain amount of active duty time per year to maintain their qualifications. In practice, reserve officers are frequently volunteers for the number of hours required to maintain that certification. Mecklimber County policy specifies that reserve officers are unpaid when called into action up to a certain number of hours per month, but should be paid for work above that number of hours. On information and belief, McFadden has repeatedly directed that reserve deputies work security at certain collegiate sports, ving events and parades at Johnson C. Smith University, which McFadden attended on information and belief. At times, McFadden was informed that this would put certain reserve deputies over the amount of time where they could be asked to work unpaid. On information and belief, McFadden ordered that these reserve deputies work the JCSU events without pay. Anyway, he did not similarly direct that reserve deputies work without pay to benefit any other Mecklenburg County institution. It basically compelled deputies to donate their time to a cause McFadden cares about. It's because he's an alum of Johnson C. Smith and because of his reputation for retaliation against anybody who crossed him or who were not viewed as personally loyal to him. Reserve deputies knew they would have to work without the pay they were entitled to, or potentially risk losing future hours and thus their certification. Everything we thought we knew about this guy was true. That's what this petition lays out. It's all been true. Petty, narcissistic, sociopathic, terrible manager. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.