Another lawsuit over NC's voter ID law (05-07-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:27] your support. A federal judge, this is from the McClatchy newspaper, Jane appearing at the

[00:00:35] News and Observer. A federal judge heard arguments in it, by the way, how come if I have a subscription

[00:00:42] to the Charlotte Observer, how come I don't get access to the Raleigh News and Observer?

[00:00:49] Right? I mean are there really any stories that you guys are producing? I mean aside

[00:00:54] from the local sports score page and all that stuff that now seems to just dominate your

[00:01:00] website, aside from the local sports stuff really? Like guys, just not for nothing, but

[00:01:06] I'm thinking if you offer a membership for like all the McClatchy papers so you can

[00:01:11] get access to all of the different McClatchy articles, like I think that would be probably

[00:01:17] a better deal for people that they would actually then subscribe rather than, I'm

[00:01:23] not doing a subscription to both papers, that's not happening. Anyway, this is the News and

[00:01:30] Observer dot com. A federal judge heard arguments in a long-standing challenge to North Carolina's

[00:01:37] voter ID law.

[00:01:46] No! He wants you to identify yourself.

[00:01:50] Depending on how she rules, the newly enacted requirement could be blocked before the November

[00:01:56] election. So here we go again everybody. Isn't this fun? Holy cow! Man, like we've been fighting

[00:02:04] over voter ID in North Carolina, gosh, for what now? 15 years? 14 years or so? Or

[00:02:11] no, 13 I guess it would be when Republicans first took over in the General Assembly

[00:02:16] that would have been 2011. And this thing has been through the courts for over a decade.

[00:02:25] And the law that we have now on the books for voter ID, it's one of the most permissive,

[00:02:34] liberal, lenient voter ID laws, if not the most liberal, permissive lenient voter

[00:02:41] ID law in the country. It takes so little to quote, vote with an ID here. And even this

[00:02:52] isn't enough. By the way, not mentioned of course in the McClatchy article by Kyle Ingram is

[00:03:00] the fact that the judge, I believe it's Loretta Biggs is her name. She's an Obama appointee.

[00:03:10] And so I'm just going to go out on a limb and predict that she's going to find in favor of the

[00:03:16] NAACP. And now we're going to go through another election with a different set of rules. We just

[00:03:21] went through the primary where you heard all of those cases about everybody not being able

[00:03:25] to vote, right? Yeah, we heard stories about the Klan members dressed up in their masked

[00:03:31] robes and such and they're out there preventing people from voting unless they show like 17

[00:03:36] forms of identification and they're only targeting non-white Protestant voters, right? We remember

[00:03:44] seeing all that in the primary. No, of course we didn't. There was actually like zero problems

[00:03:50] close to zero. And when I say close to zero, I mean less than 0.1% of the people that tried

[00:03:56] to vote couldn't vote. 99.9% of the people that showed up to vote had no problem voting.

[00:04:04] That is not a system that is broken, okay? The NAACP filed this lawsuit back in 2018. They

[00:04:15] argue that North Carolina's voter ID requirement is racist, that it discriminates against Black

[00:04:20] and Latino voters. Kathleen Robles, love her video game by the way, a lawyer representing the

[00:04:28] NAACP says the law was passed by a legislature that was found to be unconstitutionally

[00:04:33] racially gerrymandered. Not mentioned, voters approved it, right? The legislative maps that

[00:04:45] were used in the election that put the legislature in place that then took the voter ID referendum

[00:04:53] to the public, judges overturned those maps and so this is what the NAACP is arguing,

[00:05:01] that because those maps were overturned, it was what has been referred to by the NAACP as a usurper

[00:05:09] legislative body, a usurper legislature. Which is by the way that argument has been rejected.

[00:05:15] The higher up in the courts it went, it got rejected. But that's what they believe. They

[00:05:20] believe the whole legislature is illegitimate, but they only target certain laws to be overturned

[00:05:28] as sort of fruits from the poison tree, right? If the legislature is a usurper

[00:05:33] legislature, they were elected under maps that were found to be unconstitutional,

[00:05:37] everything they did is now sus, as the kids say. It sounds suspicious. We shouldn't follow any of

[00:05:46] these laws that got written on to the books because the legislature never should have been

[00:05:50] there in the first place. Yet they're not suing to overturn all the laws. Just a couple,

[00:05:56] just the ones they don't like the most, like three of them. They've lost repeatedly on the others.

[00:06:01] Voter ID is one of these laws. But here's the kicker. Even if the legislature was a usurper

[00:06:10] legislature, even if what they did was illegitimate, they still put it to voters and voters said yes

[00:06:19] and what the NAACP is saying is that I guess they're not in favor of democracy in this instance. See,

[00:06:29] because the democracy approved a voter ID constitutional amendment. So if you don't want

[00:06:38] the voters to be able to approve a constitutional amendment in support of something that the

[00:06:44] vast majority of all demographics of all voters support anyway, who's really the enemy of democracy?

[00:06:53] Republican lawmakers argued that it is, that the law offers broad accommodations because it does.

[00:06:59] David Thompson, a lawyer representing the North Carolina General Assembly, called the requirement

[00:07:05] quote one of the most permissive voter ID laws in the country. And he noted that free,

[00:07:10] free voter IDs are available at all county board of elections offices.

[00:07:18] So you can't call it a poll tax, right? Because that was what they were saying before,

[00:07:23] even though the legislature wrote it into the original laws like they were going to,

[00:07:26] you'd be able to get one for free. Didn't matter. So now these things are offered for free,

[00:07:31] not good enough. It's almost as if there's never going to be a structure that's good enough.

[00:07:38] They say the Republicans said voters can fill out an ID exception form when they go to the polls,

[00:07:43] if they don't have any ID either. Right? So they've got that as a fail-safe.

[00:07:48] He also cited data from the primary election in March in which more than 99.9% of voters

[00:07:56] who voted in person did not have any issues with the ID requirement.

[00:08:00] The NAACP though, they've got some witnesses, okay? And the witnesses all work for

[00:08:06] what the McClatchy newspaper calls them advocacy organizations, not activists.

[00:08:12] No, these are advocacy organizations. They testified that the voter ID requirement

[00:08:19] makes it harder to vote and it creates more work for them. Like, look man, we're trying to just

[00:08:29] get out the vote here and if you require ID, it makes it harder for us to get all the

[00:08:36] 10 people to vote. I'm sorry. I mean just to get out the vote. Deborah Maxwell,

[00:08:44] the president of the North Carolina State Conference of the NAACP,

[00:08:50] the one suing. So that's one of their witness organizations themselves, okay?

[00:08:54] And she says the ID requirement is an additional hurdle to voting which is already difficult for

[00:08:59] minority voters, especially in rural areas. Saying the state has made it as hard as it can

[00:09:04] for marginalized individuals to vote. Okay, that's not true either. They could make it way harder.

[00:09:11] Way harder. They're going to eliminate all the early voting period altogether.

[00:09:16] Right? Oh yeah, they could make it way harder.

[00:09:19] The plaintiff's also called Elma Herston, president of the High Point NAACP.

[00:09:26] Okay, so another NAACP person. So two of their witnesses are the plaintiff organization.

[00:09:31] Okay. She said her organization had spent valuable resources informing voters about

[00:09:36] the ID requirement which could have instead gone to youth educational programs.

[00:09:42] See? And so making them focus their attention on something else makes the law unconstitutional.

[00:09:49] Obviously so. It's right there in the state constitution. You know, the clause that says

[00:09:55] we should not have to educate people and spend resources on this other thing clause.

[00:10:01] This is asinine which is why I expect the judge will probably block the voter ID and an appeal

[00:10:06] will be forthcoming. The NAACP suing over the voter ID law in North Carolina wants to get it

[00:10:12] undone after voters said yes, we want this. Got put on the books. We had a primary in March,

[00:10:17] went off without a hitch. 99.9 plus percent of the people had zero problems voting with ID's.

[00:10:23] Free ID's are available at every county board of election. When the NAACP chapter witnesses were

[00:10:32] brought up to testify about how much work they have to do now to get people registered to

[00:10:36] vote, oh my gosh, I got asked for an ID now. On cross-examination, the lawyers asked the

[00:10:44] NAACP members or representatives, so when you are signing up somebody to your organization,

[00:10:53] do you have any paperwork that you got to do for that? Oh, you do. Oh, interesting. So is that

[00:11:01] acting as a barrier and a racist one at that? Preventing people from joining your organization?

[00:11:08] Oh, no, no, no, no. See, that's different. That is different because racism, I think.

[00:11:19] Dan says, Pete, if the voter ID law passed in a statewide election, wouldn't that nullify the

[00:11:23] argument about the legislative districts? It seems like it passing was very close to direct

[00:11:28] democracy. Wouldn't challenging it be a threat to democracy? Thanks and love the show. Yes,

[00:11:34] Dan, it would. That's the problem with their ridiculous voter ID lawsuit and their arguments

[00:11:42] about it. Okay, while I'm in the mailbag here, let me go ahead and

[00:11:50] let's plow through some of these emails covering all of the topics of the previous

[00:11:55] two and a half hours page. It says, Pete, I wish every tax-paying parent in Mecklenburg

[00:12:01] County who pays for private education would register their children for the full semester

[00:12:06] in the public schools. They don't actually have to send their kids to CMS, but I'd love to see

[00:12:11] the chaos that ensues when the registration numbers double while the tax budget stays the same.

[00:12:17] Seems odd that CMS can't even educate students with all the tax money

[00:12:20] while only a portion of the actual students are attending.

[00:12:24] Well, so here's the thing. The school districts get the funding for their year based on

[00:12:31] the 20-day count, the 20-day attendance. So as long as you've got kids there for that first

[00:12:38] 20-day period, right? So what? Four weeks, I guess, roughly. Because I think it's a... Well,

[00:12:46] I don't know if it's a calendar day, but they do a 20-day count. And that count is then

[00:12:50] what you get your funding based on. And what the anti-voucher people are demanding

[00:12:56] is that you send all your kids there and then they'll get more money. But if I'm not sending my kid

[00:13:04] there, why should you get the money to educate a kid that is not in the school? They never answer

[00:13:10] this question. They keep trying to say that you're taking money away, taking money away,

[00:13:15] and oh, the wealthy are taking the money away, and they're not even taking the full voucher

[00:13:19] cost. If you make... If you're a family of four and your income is more than a quarter

[00:13:25] million dollars a year, you can get at most about $3,400 in the voucher, which is essentially

[00:13:34] a refund for that kid. Or I guess you would have two kids. So you get $3,400 for each kid

[00:13:40] to go towards their tuition at a private school. The cost to educate a kid in North

[00:13:45] Carolina is approaching $10,000. So there's now no longer this expense required. That is

[00:13:53] not a net loss to another kid's education. It's a net loss to the system. And that's what these

[00:14:00] parents, these activists, right? These politicians, these media types, that's what they're protecting.

[00:14:07] They're institutionalists. They want to preserve control over the institution so they can run as

[00:14:14] many of your kids through the institution and teach them what to think based on their

[00:14:19] preferences because they know, as good little Marxists, they know that schools and education

[00:14:26] establishments are how you transmit your culture to the next generation. And see if you diffuse that,

[00:14:35] then we're not all on the same page, everybody. We got to have a standardized test so everybody

[00:14:41] knows the same Marxist philosophy. The very fact that you've got people that don't understand

[00:14:47] this, for example, I'm arguing with about half a dozen Marxists on Twitter for the last four hours.

[00:14:54] The fact they don't understand this very basic concept of budgeting and economics, right? They

[00:15:00] believe that if a wealthy person takes their kid out of the school district and takes $3,400

[00:15:07] as a voucher, that somehow or another the poor person who's sending their kids to public

[00:15:11] schools that somehow or another they're subsidizing the wealthy. They believe that. That's stupid.

[00:15:19] It's absolutely economically illiterate. Doesn't make any sense whatsoever because

[00:15:26] the wealthy family is still paying more into the system based on property taxes and income taxes.

[00:15:37] By the way, have you ever seen the school district take a cut?

[00:15:40] Has CMS ever reduced its spending? Not since I've been paying attention to it. And I used to cover

[00:15:45] schools and their budgets. I never saw the school district take a budget cut. And I'm not talking

[00:15:50] about a GovCode definition of a cut where you ask for $100 million more this year, you only get

[00:15:56] 90 million more and you say you got a $10 million cut. That's not a cut. You still got

[00:16:02] a $90 million ad, right? You still got an increase in funding. They never take cuts in spending ever.

[00:16:11] Well, except when Democrats were in control of the legislature and they spent this into oblivion.

[00:16:17] Yeah, they made promises and hired a bunch of people, incurred ongoing annual costs, but

[00:16:23] used one-time money to pay for stuff, blew through every budget surplus,

[00:16:29] and then ran structural deficits to the point where they had to make temporary taxes permanent.

[00:16:37] They had to withhold people's tax refunds. That was a fun year. If you're getting a refund back

[00:16:41] from the state because you overpaid your taxes, they withheld it. They withheld money that was

[00:16:47] supposed to go back. The remittances, they call them back to the, I think it was the

[00:16:50] remittances, back to the cities. The cities would collect a bunch of money, send it up

[00:16:55] to the state. They were supposed to get some of the money back and the state kept it in order

[00:17:00] to balance their budget. That's how badly Democrats budgeted. So you'll pardon me for not taking your

[00:17:09] advice, lefties, on how to budget stuff because the last time you were in charge,

[00:17:14] you were running two to three billion dollar deficits. And since the Republicans took over,

[00:17:21] surpluses year after year after year, rainy day funds filled, and debts paid off, right? The

[00:17:30] unemployment number, the unemployment debt, two billion dollars that we owed the federal government

[00:17:33] for unemployment. Yeah, we paid that off ahead of schedule, right? I'm going to go with the

[00:17:40] crowd that has actually balanced the budgets, has created surpluses, and yes, funded schools

[00:17:46] because this is the other lie that somehow schools are not getting funded. Schools are funded.

[00:17:50] They are getting funding. It's literally the top priority in the state budget, literally the top

[00:17:56] priority. Well, what's the figure we need to pay them, Pete? Good question. The answer, more.

[00:18:04] That's the answer. How much do we pay teachers? More. How much do we pay per pupil expenditures?

[00:18:10] More. It says John Fogarty prophesied. Pete says that instructor at Chapel Hill that's holding the

[00:18:22] grades hostage, he bleeped around and he's about to find out. Well, I hope so. Yeah, that instructor

[00:18:31] needs to be fired for not releasing the grades to the UNC Chapel Hill students that were not

[00:18:38] part of any protest or anything. He's just holding them hostage, holding their grades hostage in order

[00:18:43] to get the students that did break the rules try to get them out of their punishments. And John says

[00:18:50] the NR, meaning not reported, the NR, that acting chancellor at UNC Chapel Hill needs to withhold

[00:18:56] paychecks of anybody that has not done their job and recorded the grades. Yeah, not recorded,

[00:19:01] I think was the term. Okay, if you're listening to this podcast, you are obviously paying

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[00:19:59] Mike, stay on the line. I'm going to get to you as well. Well, okay. Yeah. So first, this is from

[00:20:04] Josh up in Candler, up in the mountains. He says, I taught as a full-time instructor for four years

[00:20:09] at a couple of different community colleges in western North Carolina. I'm sure some folks

[00:20:14] are making bad curriculum decisions, but one of the real culprits is the textbook publishers.

[00:20:18] Many of them push digital editions of their books and their subscription-based quiz and

[00:20:23] lab platforms. Of course, this is way more affordable for the publisher and they make it

[00:20:29] slightly more affordable on the student and the institution side. Join the show. Thank you, Josh.

[00:20:34] I appreciate it. That's good info. Let me get Mike now. Hello, Mike. Welcome to the program.

[00:20:40] Hey, good afternoon. Hey. Real quick, man, just off top of my head. I've been to the last

[00:20:47] two news and brews, and sadly, I won't be able to make this one because I have to fly

[00:20:51] to the Middle East a day before. But while I'm away, I would love to hear if y'all would have

[00:20:58] Pam sing that entire Oscar March song. Well, I don't know if she wouldn't even do it. She wouldn't

[00:21:06] even do it sitting in the closet over there alone, just singing it to the wall. I don't know

[00:21:11] if she's going to do it in front of a whole crowd of people. I think if the entire WBT staff

[00:21:15] and news and brews would entice her to do that, but hey, to wit to my call. Call the last end of

[00:21:22] the tail end of your last segment as opposed to how the left and the right are managing our budgets.

[00:21:30] And I'm of the opinion we can talk to a blue in the face, but we have to get the right

[00:21:38] people to do the right thing. Some people are going to vote for the wrong thing no matter

[00:21:44] what. How do we get them to change or can they ever change? I'll listen to your response on the radio.

[00:21:51] Thanks a lot. All right, Mike. I appreciate it. Safe travels to you, brother. I appreciate the call.

[00:21:55] We'll miss you at the news and brews. So that means there's an extra seat available if you

[00:22:00] want to take Mike's seat. The answer is no, they will not learn. They don't. They are for

[00:22:10] bigger government to do more and more and more. And I went over this years ago,

[00:22:15] there's a really interesting psychological component to all of this in that you would think

[00:22:20] that the people who want the biggest government would be the biggest hawks on accounting to make

[00:22:27] sure that every dime is not being wasted or misappropriated because they want government to

[00:22:32] do so much every dollar counts. So they'd be watching all of it to make sure that every

[00:22:37] dollar is going to all of these things to help all these people. But that's not the case. It's

[00:22:42] just not the case because they get the dopamine hits in their mind, in their brain from knowing

[00:22:49] that other people have seen them virtue signal. That's where they get their juice from. That's

[00:22:54] it. So they're not going to change. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so

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