Another 'known wolf' shooter and Hunter takes the fall (09-05-2024--Hour1)

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[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_01]: For this hour

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go into the the Georgia school shooting because now we actually have information

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But also a bit of the breaking news here

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That hunter Biden

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: According to CBS News

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Will accept a guilty verdict in his tax evasion case in California

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: According to his lawyer Abbey Lowell

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Jury selection was about to begin

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_01]: He's taking what's called an Alfred plea

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: which means

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to plead guilty

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But I know you've got enough evidence to probably convict me

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm just not even gonna take a plea at all, but it's kind of guilty plea sort of

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's not a not guilty plea because if it's a not guilty then he's not

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_01]: If he's saying he's not guilty then you go to trial

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So let's just avoid the trial

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: so

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: My read on this is that

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: They know that the evidence is insurmountable obviously

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what an Alfred plea indicates that the evidence is

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You are unable to overcome

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: The amount of evidence against your client

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And so you take the Alfred plea

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Which in my mind it is a guilty plea

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so it's this, you know this cutesy way of saying I'm not admitting to guilt

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: But I know I'm gonna get convicted so let's not do a trial, but I'm totally innocent, right?

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: My read is that this is to avoid the spectacle of the

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: the trial and

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: all of the information that comes out in a trial

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: regarding the business affairs and the other affairs, but the business affairs of Hunter Biden and his

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: family right his

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: his uncle and

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: his father and his aunt

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_01]: his sister

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: His niece right all of these people that were involved in in the company and they got money they've they

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: received benefits and

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_01]: The the company and all of the shell companies that they moved money around through and drew out of

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Was all about influence peddling it was about trading on Joe Biden's name his access to power his ability to get stuff done for the clients of

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter Biden's companies

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody understands what an influence peddling operation is about although a lot of people are pretending

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't when it comes to Hunter Biden

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that they're trying to avoid a trial so

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't have to worry about any of this stuff coming out and then having it

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Effect the election and so in that in that way

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Hunter Biden is taking the fall

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying he's innocent by any stretch

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_01]: but

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got to take the fall. He's got a you know do right by the family here. He's got to

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_01]: take this Alfred plea and

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Guess we'll see what the sentencing looks like

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure they'll make the argument that you know, he's not been in trouble which isn't true

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: He's cleaned up his life. He's turned himself around he has a good support network

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not gonna ever do this stuff again, whatever but they're gonna try to get him, you know out of any kind of jail time

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_01]: When you take a plea agreement

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Usually the prosecution gives you some sort of a deal right

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They're they're gonna cut some time off or whatever because you're saving everybody a bunch of money and the cost of trial and so

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if the DOJ offers him another sweetheart deal to avoid any kind of jail time like he got on

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: The last time he got convicted

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: so

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how I see this is that he's taken the Alfred plea which is a guilty plea

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He knew he would be convicted because it's just math. It's just this is the IRS stuff

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the tax evasion charges right? He's charged with

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Failing to pay at least one point four million dollars in federal taxes while living an extravagant lifestyle

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And when you start tracking where the money came from that he didn't pay the taxes on

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna start getting closer and closer to the Biden crime family operations

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I suspect that's what they're trying to avoid

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: The the defense team

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He was on up on three felony tax offenses six misdemeanor offenses including to

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Failure to file and pay his taxes as well as tax evasion and filing a false return

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So they hope that this just now goes away

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: before the election

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't need anybody focusing on anything like this any kind of

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Foreign influence we need to focus on the podcasters and

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And the money that was being funneled through a front company to pay them to create content for

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Right wingers who by the way like didn't like Donald Trump, but whatever Russia collusion. That's what we need to focus on

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna get to that too, but that's

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't need any kind of focus on on the Democrats or on Hunter Biden the Biden family Biden Harris anything like that in

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: The you know six weeks or five weeks before the election. So there's that

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: In Georgia so one of the things that I know there was a

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure I know who it was

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Called and berated my call screener yesterday Nick who doesn't deserve it

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: No call screener deserves to be yelled at by idiots if you would like

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: To be yelled at if you would like to yell at somebody

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You can wait and get on the air with me

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I can go back and forth with you, but the call screeners are not in they're not hired to

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: To argue with you to debate you on topics. They're not the host. I'm the host and so yesterday

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm betting it was Cheryl who

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Frequent caller rarely does she ever want to be on air?

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: She has now taken the cowardly position of berating call screeners and then hanging up

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: because she is afraid of

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Debating me and I get it. I do I understand

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Do have a gift to make leftists look stupid when they engage with me in a debate

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I understand that I look if I was in your position trying to debate and defend

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Leftist ideology and policies. I imagine I would have a very difficult time doing so as well

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I don't believe in that stuff because it's stupid anyway

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: She was demanding that I cover the Georgia school shooting yesterday, which had just happened, right?

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: so

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Couple things and I go over this every time there is a school shooting

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Allow time for information to come out

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't need to rush to the social media or rush to the airwaves

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_01]: To make arguments about whatever policy you want to see enacted

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Before you even know any of the details of what occurred

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_01]: right, I

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Tried away 24 hours. I leave it up to my news department

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: They do a fine job of covering the event and they did cover the event

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They covered the event with all the information that was known took about three sentences to say because that was all the information

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: That was known so I try to be responsible when we cover these types of topics. I also always say

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: in the

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: aftermath of any kind of a shooting like this especially at a school

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_01]: People are always trying to make rational sense

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_01]: out of

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: irrational and evil acts

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're not going to be able to do it. I

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Can't you can't right?

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you're rational. I'm rational. I like to think I am we approach this stuff from a rational perspective

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_01]: We try to think about how it happened why it happened and all of that

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: but at the core of the attack is a mind that is

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: incomprehensible to a rational mind

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it is behaving in an irrational and evil way

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So that being said

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: What we do know now is

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That it was a teenager student of the school. We have his name. I don't I don't read their names

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't give names of the shooters because I believe and I think the evidence supports this is that

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: school shootings

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: specifically mass shootings generally are social contagions and

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Media attention to the shooter and to the event

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: inspires others to behave in similar ways

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Again, this is irrationality

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So the student

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Went to school obviously brought a firearm brought I think it's being described as an AR-15 and

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Shot and killed four people

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Two teachers and two students

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That 14 year old murderer allegedly was charged with murder and

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Will be tried as an adult. He was a known wolf not a lone wolf only he was a known wolf

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_01]: The FBI knew who this kid was because there were previous

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_01]: complaints

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: About stuff he was posting

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: This also tracks

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: With so many other of these types of shootings is that people knew all right real quick

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[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: in May of 2023

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So over a year ago

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The FBI's national threat operations Center or the NTOC

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Or the NITOC

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Received several anonymous tips about threats to commit a school shooting that were made on an online

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: gaming website. I

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't know what gaming website it was

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Could be any of them could be any of the consoles like PlayStation or Xbox or it could be

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Steam or

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know the other ones that the Nintendo plays on whatever any of these gaming sites don't know

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Could be in game

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I suspect that the author of this piece at the Atlantic the Atlanta Journal Constitution

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Alexis Stevens, I don't know if she's well-versed or if the FBI people are well-versed in like okay

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You're calling it an online gaming site. Is that the game itself?

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like are the kids playing fortnight and they're they're texting in the in-game chat

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that what is that where it happened? Don't know

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_01]: but back in May

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: threats were made

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: The FBI and Jackson County Sheriff's Office

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Said that this occurred they put out a statement saying this the threats did not identify a school or when it would happen

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But they contained pictures of guns. All right, so I'm thinking that's not in-game chat then

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody posted pictures of guns

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Investigators tracked the post to Georgia and to Jackson County where sheriff's deputies continued the investigation

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: A 13 year old at the time 13 was interviewed along with his father

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Quote the father stated he had hunting guns in the house, but the subject did not have unsupervised access to them

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: mm-hmm

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and the subject denied making the threats online

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and because

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: they

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Could not substantiate the threats

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like oh well no probable cause for arrest or to take any additional action for law enforcement

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, hey just monitor it just monitor the situation. Okay, so I have a question

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: What were the pictures of did you get the pictures of the guns?

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_01]: When you went to the house and I don't know the answer to this

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But did anybody have a picture of the gun?

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Could you not have just compared that to the guns that were in the collection of the father that were supposedly

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Out of reach of the 13 year old but now apparently became within reach of the 13 year old

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_01]: They figured out how to get to the gun somehow. Hmm

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Investigators have not said what type of gun was used in Wednesday shooting, but there is a photo that is circulating

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_01]: From inside the school in the immediate aftermath where the gun is on the ground and it appears to be an AR type platform

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Shooter was stopped by a school resource officer and SRO

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: A good guy with a gun because that's how these shootings stop

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Good guys with guns stop the shootings. I received an email from Jan

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Who says, uh, I take exception with the point. Oh, hang on a second the subject line is important here

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I do not support yelling at the call screener

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_01]: however

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I take exception with the point that you make leftists look stupid

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They do that all on their own you just give them a platform to do so and it is amusing painful at times, but still amusing

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Also great op-ed

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I will get to that also. Uh the op-ed that I submitted to the blaze

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_01]: published yesterday, so we'll go over

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh some of that but you can also read it at the blaze. It's under their opinion section

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I did not make the headline. I was not a never-trumper

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I was a never anybody really

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's not even true. I never said that I would never vote for any major party candidate

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I never said that I just hadn't ever before anyway, I'll I'll I'll pizzecki back to that

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The good guys with guns

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Right now

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It has become very popular for gun grabbers to point to the uvaldi school shooting as the

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh example of why good guys with guns can't be counted on

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And I would submit that that is

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_01]: That that is the outlier which is why it was so shocking

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: after columbine because before well before columbine

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_01]: The response was always hang back and wait

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Right because the assumption was you're dealing with some sort of hostage situation. What are their demands that kind of thing?

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_01]: um after columbine

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: The protocols began changing

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And it became

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Rush in stopped the shooter as quickly as possible

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So that again, that's what made uvaldi the the modern-day outlier there is that

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: People are like, what are you doing and the the cop down in florida at the margaret stoneman douglas high school?

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: same thing

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: because

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: These types of shootings only stop when the shooter is

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: confronted

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: by somebody else with a gun

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: to disarm them

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_01]: On the rare occasion a bunch of people could jump the shooter and disarm the shooter at that point

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But they don't stop on their own right?

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, if you look at these types of shootings as

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: essentially suicides

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Right it is a it gives you sort of a a window into the mindset

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That they intend not to survive

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Although some of them chicken out as this kid did when confronted he dropped the gun and

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Allowed himself to be arrested

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: John lot

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Who is the president of the crime prevention research center? He's the author of a book called gun control myths

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Wrote a piece over at the federalist

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He says for years gun control activists have sought to debunk the so-called good guy with a gun myth as they call it

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_01]: In an effort to pass more stringent controls on one of our nation's most cherished liberties

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: In support of this agenda the federal government in conjunction with legacy media has sought to suppress the abundant evidence

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_01]: In support of the truth that armed law abiding citizens are one of the most effective deterrence against public mass casualty attacks

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The cdc under the biden administration has sought to suppress data

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Proving that armed citizens help prevent crime by removing its estimates of defensive gun

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Uses from its website for almost a decade the cdc referenced a

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: 2013 national academies of sciences report noting that people used guns to stop crime anywhere from about

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: 64,000 times a year all the way up to three million times a year which is quite a large range

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: 64,000 to three million times every year

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: People with guns stop crying

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: The decision to take this information off the website

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Was made after gun control activist mark bryant who is the founder of the gun violence archive

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Lobbied the cdc to remove quote-unquote

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_01]: misinformation regarding defensive gun use estimates because

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_01]: They they are cited by gun rights folks to stop gun control legislation

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Not that the data was incorrect

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Just that it was being used

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That made it misinformation

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Soon after the cdc took down the estimates and now lists no numbers

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The fbi has also shown itself to be susceptible to political pressure

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: The fbi defines an active shooter attack as occurring when an individual actively kills or attempts to kill people in a populated public area

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: This measure includes everything from just one person shot at even if they weren't hit

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: To a mass public shooting it does not include however shootings involving other crimes like robbery or fighting over drug turf

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Not included

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Also of note i would point out

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_01]: That the day before i believe it was the day before it may have been labor day

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: The georgia school shooting

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: There was

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I believe a teenager arrested in chicago for shooting and killing four people

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_01]: There were also four people killed at the georgia high school

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: One of those stories makes national news and the other does not

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_01]: This is why i say it's a social contagion and media never looks at their own role

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_01]: in

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_01]: The in the spread of the contagion of these events

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_01]: This is why by the way media recognizes this when it comes to suicides

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's why you never hear them reporting on suicides unless there's some sort of uh, like it's a very famous person

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: or

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It's somebody who you know is jumping off a bridge and it's snarling up traffic or something

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And even then it's usually referred to as a police incident or something

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Or somebody with a mental health crisis

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't they don't talk about it because they don't want to encourage others

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_01]: To replicate it

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But for some reason when it comes to this kind of a suicide attempt

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Media is all over it

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[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: One quick note here, um

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: On school shootings in general

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: When people of the left that wish to

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: confiscate guns

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is what the plan would have to obviously be

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_01]: When they say we have to do something I have offered over the years I have offered

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Suggestions on what could be done

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want those suggestions

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_01]: When they say they want something to be done, they mean the things that they want done done

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't they're not actually looking for suggestions

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: They have the ideas that they want to see implemented

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Because one of the suggestions is to allow

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_01]: teachers not mandate but allow teachers and other school personnel

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_01]: To conceal carry. Oh my gosh, okay

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't want to send your child to a school that has

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Teachers that have gone through the background checks

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: They've gone through the training and stuff

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want one of your you don't want your kids going to one of those schools

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_01]: This is actually an argument then for school choice

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you may not want to send your kid to a school with teachers that are concealed carrying and you don't know who they would be

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: but

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_01]: What if I do

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You're saying I don't have that ability. This is another argument for school choice because again

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_01]: The model is the problem

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: all right

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Back to the john lott article during 2020 in the beginning of 2021

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: He says I worked as the senior advisor for research and statistics at the u.s. Department of Justice

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: My job included evaluating the fbi's active shooting reports during my time with the doj

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I discovered that the fbi either missed or

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Misidentified many cases of civilians using guns to stop attacks

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_01]: For instance the fbi continues to report that armed citizens stopped only 14 of the 350

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: active shooter cases that it identified in the 10 years

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_01]: From 2014 to 2023 case over a decade. They say there were 350 active shooter cases and only 14 of them were stopped by

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: quote good guys with guns

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The crime prevention research center, which I run

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Has found many more missed cases

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And is keeping an updated list which is available on their website

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: As such the cprc numbers tell a much different story

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Out of 515 active shooter incidents

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Over that same decade time period

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So they identified more shootings

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_01]: but

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_01]: They found

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: armed citizens stopped

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: 180 of them

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Saving countless innocent lives our numbers exclude

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: 27 cases where a law abiding citizen with a gun stopped an attacker before he could even fire a shot

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So I would submit like that's probably why the uh,

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The number is 515 and not 350 you had people stopping the attacker before they could

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_01]: attack

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Overall the cprc estimates that law abiding citizens with guns have stopped over 35 of active shootings over the last decade

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And almost 40 in the last five years alone

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_01]: This figure is eight times higher than the 4 estimate made by the fbi the figure increases even more when you are

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Controlling only for areas where citizens are legally allowed to carry a firearm, right?

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're not allowed to conceal carry

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Or open carry like at a school

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: How could you use that in your data set?

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Why would you say that a good guy with a gun didn't stop it?

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they could have but they're not allowed on the premises or at a mall for example

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't expect law abiding citizens to stop attacks in a gunfree zone

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: In places where law abiding citizens are allowed to carry firearms

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We estimate that armed civilians stopped over half of active shootings over the last decade

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: 53 percent in the last five years the fbi dataset is missing so many defensive gun uses that it's hard to believe

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not intentional and the fact that they never correct mistakes that are brought to their attention

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Is even more damning

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, all right. I have about 30 seconds here, but i'll give it to you buddy. Welcome to the show real quick, buddy

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: What's your comment?

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just want to know I I just got to find out why do we not have national guard in all our schools

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean at least one two first school if we've got somebody out there

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna be able to watch what's going on, you know

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Depending on how many kids are in that schools. How many you'd actually need and just implement the national guard

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just the kids will have to get used to it right

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean you have a push against any kind of law enforcement presence in the schools at all

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, Kamala Harris made that very case to get cops out of schools when she was running for president in 2019

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So buddy, I appreciate the call. Uh, yeah, I mean there's an audio clip. I've got of her saying get cops out of the schools

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is like an unbelievable position

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_01]: to take

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You harden the targets

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And there are ways to do that

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: We've gone over all of the various ways over the years the the ideas are out there

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're not looking for them, then you're not going to obviously see all right. That'll do it for this episode

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