An awkward call over Pam "The Jam" Warner's nickname (10-30-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:28] Garbage Gate 2024. Joe Biden says that the only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters talking about Donald Trump and Donald Trump's supporters. They're now trying, the media and Democrats, but I repeat myself, they try to make this about, oh, the insult comic who got on stage during the Trump rally and insulted people as insult

[00:00:58] comics are known to do, particularly when you put them on stage and hire them to do their act. And so they're all busy running around trying to tell everybody that there's actually a hidden apostrophe in the word supporters, you see. And it wasn't in the original White House transcript, no, no, but we have willed it into existence. And the White House then went and changed the transcript to insert the apostrophe. See, so now,

[00:01:28] the sentence doesn't make any sense at all, but it protects Biden and by extension Harris from the charge that they have engaged in a deplorables moment or a bitter clingers moment, right? Because that's what it is.

[00:01:48] I have no doubt that this is how Joe Biden sees Trump supporters, about half of America. I have no doubt about that. Do you? No. Like what?

[00:02:00] Like, why would anything he has said over the last four years? What would lead you to believe otherwise? So as the media and Democrats are running around trying to tell us all that there's an apostrophe in there, Joe Biden sends out a tweet or I guess some of his people do.

[00:02:21] They say earlier today, I referred to the hateful rhetoric about Puerto Rico spewed by Trump's supporter at his Madison Square Garden rally as garbage, which is the only word I can think of to describe it.

[00:02:35] I mean, I could think of a whole bunch of words, but then again, I'm, you know, I'm not battling dementia.

[00:02:42] So his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable. That's all I meant to say. The comments at the rally don't reflect who we are as a nation.

[00:02:48] So he comes out and says, I misspoke. So he's not coming out and saying, oh, there's actually an apostrophe in there.

[00:02:55] He's saying I messed up in what I meant to say. I said it wrong.

[00:03:00] Which now, like I saw somebody refer to it as all, you know, media going out on this limb trying to defend Joe Biden.

[00:03:08] And he like climbs the tree and saws the limb off behind them. He crashed to the ground. That's what he did.

[00:03:13] But it also raises this question of why was he doing this interview with Voto Latino?

[00:03:20] Why was he doing it in the first place? Kamala Harris is doing a rally.

[00:03:26] Why are you counterprogramming her rally, her closing argument?

[00:03:35] Yeah, I'm starting to entertain the idea that he's trying to sabotage her or at least the people that are around him are trying to sabotage her.

[00:03:44] Maybe that's it. Jeff Blair had a piece over at National Review.

[00:03:50] I'll get to in a second. But first, I will talk with Tim, who has called in.

[00:03:55] Hello, Tim. Welcome to the show.

[00:03:58] Hey, Pete.

[00:03:59] Hello, Tim.

[00:04:00] Really enjoy. Hey, can you hear me?

[00:04:02] No, I cannot hear you.

[00:04:05] Oh, well, maybe my phone's breaking up.

[00:04:10] But anyway, can you hear me now?

[00:04:12] Yeah, Tim, I'm just kidding. I can totally hear you.

[00:04:14] Okay.

[00:04:16] Hey, Pete, I really enjoy everything about your show.

[00:04:20] But I just have this question. It's a viewpoint question.

[00:04:23] Okay.

[00:04:25] And so I've noticed that you're good at analyzing when political parties want their will to be done.

[00:04:34] Perhaps many people don't want it done.

[00:04:36] They usually use the legislative department to push laws through so they can get done what they want done.

[00:04:44] Am I hearing you right when you say that?

[00:04:46] Well, that's the way it's supposed to work is you're supposed to use the legislative branch to write law.

[00:04:51] And then that law gets passed by both of the chambers.

[00:04:55] And then it goes to the president, the executive, who would then sign it or veto it.

[00:05:00] And then it goes back.

[00:05:01] If it's vetoed, it goes back for an override.

[00:05:03] That's the way it's supposed to work.

[00:05:05] But the way it oftentimes works right now and has for most of my adult life, the legislators, members of Congress, have abdicated their responsibilities.

[00:05:18] And they just pass laws that are really nebulous.

[00:05:22] And then they turn it over to the executive branch.

[00:05:25] And the executive branch just fills in all of the gaps.

[00:05:29] And they empower these unelected bureaucrats to write the rules.

[00:05:36] Or you get presidents that sign executive actions, executive orders, and they just completely usurp the legislative process altogether.

[00:05:44] Does that answer your question?

[00:05:46] Yes.

[00:05:47] Yes.

[00:05:47] Yes.

[00:05:47] That's what I've gathered from some things that you said.

[00:05:50] And so I was just applying it to, you know, us as workers and coworkers.

[00:05:57] And I just, I feel like sometimes rank comes into, just like the political party or even government can outrank an individual or a number of individuals.

[00:06:10] You'll agree on that, I'm sure.

[00:06:12] And so they generally get their way.

[00:06:14] But sometimes we as coworkers, we may outrank each other.

[00:06:19] And for some reason, the person with the higher rank, they want something or they want their coworker to do something.

[00:06:25] So they use that, you know, power to get that done.

[00:06:31] And so I just wondered what your viewpoint is.

[00:06:35] Since a political party could be looked at in a negative light because of taking action like that, using the legislative branch to get their way?

[00:06:44] No, that's, no, I, all right.

[00:06:45] Hang on.

[00:06:46] Hang on, Tim.

[00:06:47] I don't look at political parties negatively for using the legislative branch to enact their policies.

[00:06:53] I don't look at that as a negative.

[00:06:54] That's the way it's supposed to work.

[00:06:56] Oh, well, what other way?

[00:06:57] What other way would you like it to work?

[00:06:59] Or do you have an idea of how it should work if it's not that the parties and the elected officials, the people that make up the parties, right?

[00:07:06] Because it's not like these are human beings that they want certain things to occur.

[00:07:10] And so they run for office.

[00:07:12] They use the legislature to do the things that they want done, right?

[00:07:16] Is there another, what's the, is there a different way?

[00:07:19] No, no.

[00:07:20] It's just in the instance that perhaps some folks weren't wanting that outcome.

[00:07:25] Um, and so maybe they meant well, but sometimes, uh, you may agree laws get passed and some folks say, I didn't like that.

[00:07:34] You know, I didn't want that to happen.

[00:07:36] So, uh, you mean people that, well, hang on, Tim, you mean people that supported the law and then once it's passed, there are unintended consequences.

[00:07:44] So they don't like that.

[00:07:45] Or are you talking about people who oppose a law initially or a bill and then it becomes law and they still oppose it?

[00:07:53] Oh, it could be people that agree and then said, oh man, unintended consequences.

[00:07:58] Now I really didn't want to do that.

[00:08:00] So I just wonder, does that happen amongst coworkers from time to time?

[00:08:05] Like, so you keep, hang on, you keep using this term coworkers and I'm unclear what, why you keep referring to coworkers.

[00:08:13] Oh, well, uh, we all work at something in life.

[00:08:17] And so we all generally have coworkers.

[00:08:20] And, uh, even though we're well-meaning, sometimes we, you know, may outrank a coworker, may want a coworker to do or say something the way that we want them to do or say it.

[00:08:32] And then we might be looked at negatively for that.

[00:08:37] I just wonder what your viewpoint is.

[00:08:39] I have no idea what you're talking about.

[00:08:40] I've tried, no, Tim, I've tried to, I've tried to figure out what it like, is there, is there some other, is there some other, like, is there a better way to say what you're trying to say?

[00:08:52] Let me, is there a direct question or a direct assertion that you can make?

[00:08:56] Well, yes, there is.

[00:08:58] Okay.

[00:08:58] Make that assertion because we've wasted probably about five minutes here.

[00:09:02] Yeah.

[00:09:02] Six minutes almost.

[00:09:03] I've, I've listened to your show very comfortable, comfortably, uh, for a long time.

[00:09:09] But for a while now, I noticed that the, the traffic closet folks, they are kind of being made to do something that they seem to be uncomfortable doing.

[00:09:19] I just thought maybe that's not the best idea.

[00:09:23] But what is, so we're thinking out loud.

[00:09:26] What is happening, what is happening?

[00:09:29] The brand, the brand that you're helping your coworker to, uh, create, uh, you know, Pam the Jam Warner.

[00:09:38] Mm-hmm.

[00:09:38] It just, it's, it's great that you're helping them move forward with a brand like that that's catchy.

[00:09:44] But my gosh, she sounds like she's uncomfortable trying to, you know, add that in.

[00:09:50] And nobody makes Pete add anything in, do they?

[00:09:55] You think I'm making Pam add in something?

[00:09:58] Well, you, you do outrank Pam, don't you?

[00:10:01] No.

[00:10:02] Oh.

[00:10:04] Well, uh, okay.

[00:10:07] But I'll continue to listen and I do appreciate all your analysis and that you do come up with solutions.

[00:10:13] And it was very gracious for you to speak with me.

[00:10:16] I'll just, I'll say goodbye.

[00:10:18] All right, Tim.

[00:10:19] I appreciate the call.

[00:10:19] Yeah, I don't know.

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[00:11:23] Greg says,

[00:12:01] And Bob says,

[00:12:05] He loves the jam.

[00:12:09] Hello, Ralph.

[00:12:11] Welcome to the show.

[00:12:12] Well, I would like to first apologize, Pam.

[00:12:15] I think I probably planted this seed of toxicity into the 50,000-watt blowtor torch.

[00:12:23] Because I called in one time.

[00:12:25] I said,

[00:12:25] I'm going to do a song with, you know, like the music of Old Black Betty.

[00:12:30] And then we, it was a derivative.

[00:12:33] It went into Pam, the Jam Warner.

[00:12:35] But I think what we all should do is just go into Rose Garden and drink a beer and just

[00:12:41] work this out.

[00:12:42] I like it.

[00:12:44] You know, I tell you what, I felt like that guy was trying to go around his elbow to get

[00:12:48] somewhere, but it never, he never got that far until, you know, until the end there.

[00:12:56] And it was like, we waited all this time for this scenario.

[00:13:00] Right.

[00:13:01] So, and so this is why I say to people, and I'm not trying to be mean to Tim, because like

[00:13:06] a lot of times people think that if they just say what they want to say, but when they call

[00:13:10] in and they tell the call screener, Steve here, he's, he's manning the, the, the phone

[00:13:15] screening duties.

[00:13:17] And they feel like they can't say what they want to say because then they won't get on

[00:13:23] the air or something.

[00:13:24] And that is not the case.

[00:13:26] Now, I may not be interested in talking with you about a topic that's off topic or something,

[00:13:32] but he should have just said what it was he wanted to say.

[00:13:36] And if it's relevant, then I'm going to take the call.

[00:13:39] Right.

[00:13:39] But if he's wanting to talk, like if it's Winston calling in, wanting to talk about how

[00:13:43] the Jews run the world, well, I'm not interested in talking about that.

[00:13:46] Not going to happen.

[00:13:46] Right.

[00:13:46] So, and I, and I've banned him anyway, so he can't come on.

[00:13:49] But the, this is why I say make your assertion, right?

[00:13:52] Just state the premise.

[00:13:54] What is it?

[00:13:54] And I could tell when I'm trying to answer these questions that the questions aren't making

[00:13:58] a lot of sense.

[00:13:59] And that's usually a sign of bad faith.

[00:14:01] And I don't mean that in like a really, you know, derogatory way to Tim.

[00:14:04] I'm just saying like, you're not making a good faith argument because you're trying

[00:14:08] to get to this, this question that he ended up wanting to ask, but he was trying to do

[00:14:15] it, like you said, all the way around his elbow to get there.

[00:14:17] And he didn't have to do that.

[00:14:19] He should have just, you know, asked the question or stated the assertion.

[00:14:26] But also, I'm sure that idea sounded a lot better in his head before he said it, you

[00:14:30] know?

[00:14:31] Well, and too, I kept waiting for the political point of it, you know?

[00:14:36] I mean, I thought, where is he going with this?

[00:14:39] You know?

[00:14:39] And it was mind-boggling, but Tim, keep listening, brother.

[00:14:44] Yeah, yeah.

[00:14:45] So I think, yeah, I think he was being protective of Pam, which if anything in this relationship,

[00:14:51] I need the protection.

[00:14:52] This is, yeah, I don't know.

[00:14:55] But you know, people hear, one thing I have learned over the years doing this is that people

[00:15:00] hear what they want to hear.

[00:15:02] I appreciate the call, Ralph.

[00:15:03] People hear what they want to hear.

[00:15:05] They hear things that aren't said all the time.

[00:15:09] Some of my favorite, my favorite angry calls or emails come from people who start off by

[00:15:15] saying something like, I didn't hear it, but so-and-so, somebody I know, said they heard

[00:15:22] you say blah, blah, blah.

[00:15:24] And then they proceed to launch into this entire rant about what someone told them they heard,

[00:15:30] which turns out not to be true, right?

[00:15:33] I didn't say that thing.

[00:15:34] Like, first, have you gone back and listened to it?

[00:15:36] That's one of those things.

[00:15:37] But I'm wondering if, like, this idea sounded better in his head when he was first thinking

[00:15:43] of it and he was, you know, trying to defend Pam and maybe Pam didn't want the name or

[00:15:48] whatever.

[00:15:48] I don't know.

[00:15:49] But this is why I say, and it's not just a good example to use for this assertion that

[00:15:55] I always make, which is unchallenged ideas are easy to hold, right?

[00:16:00] You can have these thoughts in your head.

[00:16:02] And if you never articulate them and no one ever pushes back on you about them, then you

[00:16:08] can keep holding them.

[00:16:09] That's an easy position to believe.

[00:16:11] But as soon as you articulate it and then I say, oh, well, actually, no, we were trying

[00:16:15] to come up with nicknames for her because she asked for one.

[00:16:18] She wanted a nickname.

[00:16:20] We went through like half a dozen of them and we arrived at Pam the Jam and she seems

[00:16:26] to like it.

[00:16:27] She tells me she likes it.

[00:16:29] And if she didn't like it, then she would do what she always does is like beat me over

[00:16:33] the head at the end of the shift.

[00:16:35] I am getting a lot of messages now.

[00:16:38] People are confused.

[00:16:40] For example, Greg, he says, quote, I am so confused by Tim's incoherent call that all

[00:16:48] I know to do is tell you how confused I am by Tim's incoherent call.

[00:16:54] If the confused John Travolta GIF were a phone call, it would be that one.

[00:17:04] That's where were the other.

[00:17:08] This was from Russ.

[00:17:10] Five plus minutes listening to call or Tim trying to get to his point from what he laid

[00:17:14] out.

[00:17:14] There's no way I would have been able to arrive at, quote, Pete is creating a hostile

[00:17:19] workplace by nicknaming Pam.

[00:17:21] End quote.

[00:17:23] I kept thinking coworkers was the disconnect with legislative procedure.

[00:17:27] But hearing his point, I'm even more confused by how he set it all up.

[00:17:32] Yeah, I.

[00:17:34] I.

[00:17:35] Yeah.

[00:17:38] Um.

[00:17:41] Yeah.

[00:17:42] And then.

[00:17:42] OK, well, OK, I'm just going to say other people are confused, too, because I'm not trying

[00:17:46] to beat up on Tim.

[00:17:47] I'm not here to drag Tim.

[00:17:49] All right.

[00:17:50] Tim, I think I think his heart was in the right place.

[00:17:52] I think he was trying to defend Pam because Pam wasn't able to read the her name.

[00:17:59] Pam, the jam Warner on her out cue in one of the breaks when she was done with traffic.

[00:18:05] And.

[00:18:07] She and so she stumbled over it.

[00:18:09] And so I was giving her a hard time.

[00:18:10] I was busting her chops and he swooped in to defend her and suggested that maybe I am

[00:18:17] forcing this upon her.

[00:18:18] Now, Tim doesn't know the the dynamic here in this in the station, in the studio and stuff.

[00:18:23] And he thought apparently that I outrank her or whatever.

[00:18:27] But that is not the case.

[00:18:28] I don't outrank her.

[00:18:29] In fact, I don't know.

[00:18:31] I don't actually know who I outrank.

[00:18:32] I don't think I outrank anybody.

[00:18:34] Like, seriously, if you're like the shelf life of a talk show host way shorter than basically

[00:18:40] everybody else in this building.

[00:18:42] So I don't know if hosts outrank anybody.

[00:18:45] Now, that being said, Pam wanted a nickname.

[00:18:51] She was kind of like pestering me for a nickname.

[00:18:53] And we were trying different nicknames out and we arrived at Pam the jam.

[00:18:57] And that's the thing about nicknames is you don't really know which one's going to stick

[00:19:00] until one sticks.

[00:19:01] And so this one kind of stuck.

[00:19:02] And then I heard other people using it because Pam defected and went over and did the morning

[00:19:08] show for a while.

[00:19:10] And then do it because we had Mike Doan filling in for her for the last few days.

[00:19:14] And then I heard other hosts referring to her as Pam the jam.

[00:19:18] And so that means the nickname has stuck.

[00:19:20] And so I was busting her chops.

[00:19:23] I was I was having some fun with her that she was not, you know, saying her out cue name.

[00:19:29] Why isn't she saying the name?

[00:19:30] And I think Tim got defensive on her behalf.

[00:19:33] So I don't begrudge him for that.

[00:19:34] I would just prefer like you just say that right out of the gate rather than doing the

[00:19:38] whole how a bill becomes a law legislative roundabout thing, because I didn't follow that at all.

[00:19:43] All right.

[00:19:44] Let's get back on topic.

[00:19:45] Let's get this thing back between the guardrails.

[00:19:47] Gail, welcome to the program.

[00:19:48] Hello, Gail.

[00:19:50] Good afternoon.

[00:19:50] I'm listening to your show and I wanted to call in.

[00:19:54] Good.

[00:19:54] Thank you.

[00:19:55] Because I am a Democrat.

[00:19:56] That's just how I vote.

[00:19:58] But the reason I vote for Vice President Harris, number one, she's a woman.

[00:20:03] And the second place, she is a black woman or she's a woman of color.

[00:20:06] The reason I say that President Joe Biden is a very smart man, he is the first person,

[00:20:11] first president to introduce to us and our history pages, a woman, a vice president of

[00:20:17] the United States.

[00:20:18] And I believe that he is going to be the person who introduces us to the first woman president

[00:20:24] of the United States.

[00:20:25] I will not say that Ms. Harris is going to win this election, but I do believe she will

[00:20:30] be the first woman president.

[00:20:32] The reason I say that is President Trump.

[00:20:35] He is a very smart man, but he is a person that intimidates a lot of people.

[00:20:40] And I believe she's like a boxer.

[00:20:42] She would be considered a flawed Mayweather.

[00:20:44] She jumped into the ring to fight with Trump.

[00:20:47] So she's not afraid to talk with him on his level or her level.

[00:20:51] I do not say he is dumb.

[00:20:52] He is a very smart man, and I think she is a very smart woman.

[00:20:56] So this election is going to be chosen by the people who God allowed to give us our next

[00:21:02] president.

[00:21:02] I will not put the hat on either person because they are all good people.

[00:21:06] Gail.

[00:21:07] But I want to say, yes?

[00:21:08] No, I wanted to ask you something.

[00:21:10] So, well, actually a couple questions.

[00:21:12] So like the first question was about, you said that you support her because she's a woman.

[00:21:16] So does that, should I support candidates that are men?

[00:21:22] Because I'm a man?

[00:21:23] Well, I'm going to tell you, okay, here's the way we are.

[00:21:25] I'm not saying all black women and all women of color and all women, period.

[00:21:29] No, I'm just asking you if that...

[00:21:31] Let me show you what it is.

[00:21:32] In the pages of history, we have watched other countries have queens, emperors, and everything.

[00:21:37] America has never had a woman president.

[00:21:40] So we believe that maybe this will give America a time to breathe.

[00:21:45] A woman will be greeting you with a smile.

[00:21:47] She will have more tenderness.

[00:21:49] A man may be more eager to show his strongness.

[00:21:53] She may be able to be strong and yet look weak.

[00:21:56] I do not believe that Ms. Harris, Mrs. Harris, vice president, she is not a weak woman.

[00:22:01] She is a very strong woman because I don't know anybody will get in there with Trump.

[00:22:04] All right, Gail.

[00:22:05] So, again, what I'm asking for is a standard.

[00:22:08] I understand why people vote, like, for example, Catholics voted for JFK.

[00:22:13] I understand why black people voted for Barack Obama.

[00:22:16] I understand, like, the historical nature of the thing.

[00:22:19] But the very first credential that you gave me was that she's a black woman,

[00:22:24] and you as a black woman, that that's why you said,

[00:22:27] I'm going to vote for her, and here's why she's a woman.

[00:22:29] Well, if she wasn't a black woman, as long as, here's the way I look at my thing, what I do.

[00:22:34] I want to see a woman as the president of the United States.

[00:22:38] So it doesn't matter what she believes.

[00:22:41] Well, here's how we have to look at it.

[00:22:44] In some churches, we talk about these two people.

[00:22:48] They both debate back and forth with very unintelligent comments about each other.

[00:22:54] I don't think that it's either person's personality.

[00:22:56] For some reason, the world likes to see people beat up,

[00:23:00] and they like to see them beating each other.

[00:23:02] It's more like a boxing ring to me.

[00:23:04] Gail, I understand that you already made that point.

[00:23:06] I'm asking whether or not, because I'm up against the clock here,

[00:23:10] so I'm asking whether or not her policies actually matter

[00:23:15] rather than only her race and gender.

[00:23:19] Well, I would say the policies do matter because I am not a middle-class woman.

[00:23:24] I am in a class of women lower than middle-class,

[00:23:27] but I'm not going to not vote for any woman because she starts with the middle-class.

[00:23:31] The middle-class, maybe she sees them as the people who are going out to vote.

[00:23:35] Gail, Gail, Gail, I'm not asking for stump speeches.

[00:23:38] I'm just asking just for real quick questions.

[00:23:41] Okay.

[00:23:41] Okay.

[00:23:42] And I understand.

[00:23:42] It sounds like you've said these things many times.

[00:23:45] You've made these arguments to many people, it sounds like,

[00:23:47] because you've got it kind of like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

[00:23:50] But the question is about whether or not the policies matter.

[00:23:54] But everything that you argued for when you started the call was not policy.

[00:24:00] It was you said you're a Democrat and that she's a woman and she's black.

[00:24:05] And so I said, does that matter more than her policies?

[00:24:10] Well, I'm going to say this.

[00:24:12] Many people are out there voting and this covers it.

[00:24:16] Some people get on that ticket and they vote straight Democrat or they vote straight Republican.

[00:24:21] They really don't know the names of the people or what the people stand for on.

[00:24:25] Yeah, or they just vote for the woman.

[00:24:27] Yeah, they just vote.

[00:24:28] Or they just vote for a person of their own race.

[00:24:30] No, I'm not saying that.

[00:24:32] No, I'm saying that.

[00:24:33] I don't agree with all of her policies.

[00:24:34] I want to say that.

[00:24:35] I don't agree with all of her policies.

[00:24:36] I don't agree with all of President Trump's policies.

[00:24:39] President Trump has already had a chance to be in the White House.

[00:24:43] But he knows why.

[00:24:44] He's been there before.

[00:24:45] It's kind of like if you've already been in the race, you know it.

[00:24:48] She hasn't been there.

[00:24:49] Yeah.

[00:24:49] But we feel like maybe she can bring something new.

[00:24:51] We know what he will try to bring.

[00:24:53] Maybe he will bring something better.

[00:24:54] So the person who's never cooked the cake, we give them an opportunity to cook the cake.

[00:24:59] All right, Gail.

[00:24:59] I appreciate the call.

[00:25:01] I understand why some people want to see the historic candidate succeed.

[00:25:06] I understand that.

[00:25:07] I just think it's a really crappy way to make decisions on who to vote for.

[00:25:10] Because if everybody does it that way, you end up with a racialized electorate.

[00:25:15] And that's not healthy for a society such as ours that is so diverse.

[00:25:21] And the thing that unites us is supposed to be about an idea and not about our racial ties and such.

[00:25:28] But I appreciate the call here on this Wednesday, October 30th.

[00:25:34] And, well, I mean, I had other stuff prepped.

[00:25:37] But then Tim called.

[00:25:38] And so we got different.

[00:25:41] And then Gail.

[00:25:42] And I didn't mean to rush through with Gail.

[00:25:44] But, I mean, she sounded almost like a filibuster call.

[00:25:49] So, I just had other questions, too.

[00:25:52] But we went past them.

[00:25:53] So it doesn't matter.

[00:25:54] Let me go.

[00:25:55] And who is this?

[00:25:58] Jody.

[00:25:58] Hello, Jody.

[00:25:59] Welcome to the show.

[00:26:00] Hi there.

[00:26:01] Thank you so much for taking my call.

[00:26:03] And I love your show.

[00:26:05] Thank you.

[00:26:05] I always try to listen when I'm at lunch.

[00:26:07] But, anyway, I just want to share.

[00:26:10] I had to call because I was really taken aback by the last caller.

[00:26:15] And, to me, it's just really sad.

[00:26:17] Because, as a woman, you know, Martin Luther King had a dream that we wouldn't be judged by our color or our gender.

[00:26:26] You know, but we would be, you know, judged by our character, by our merits.

[00:26:30] And to say that you want to vote for someone based on their color or their gender, you know, shouldn't we be past that?

[00:26:41] I mean, shouldn't we?

[00:26:42] I mean, I would, you know, for me personally, just judge me on my merits.

[00:26:48] Judge me for the work that I've done that I'm accomplished.

[00:26:51] And I want to say I am so thankful for President Trump.

[00:26:55] He has a proven track record.

[00:26:58] And I'm voting for him for several reasons.

[00:27:03] But, you know, Kamala Harris, she's been in office.

[00:27:06] She has a proven track record.

[00:27:08] And her record has really the high inflation.

[00:27:13] Prices are through the roof.

[00:27:15] Rental property through the roof.

[00:27:18] And the crime is through the roof.

[00:27:20] It's just crazy.

[00:27:22] And she referenced about baking a cake.

[00:27:26] We need to have someone new to bake a cake.

[00:27:29] Well, you know what?

[00:27:30] Just if I'm celebrating my parents' 50th wedding anniversary or if I'm getting married or if there's a special occasion, I don't want someone new baking the cake.

[00:27:41] I want someone with expertise.

[00:27:43] And President Trump has the expertise and the proven track record that America needs.

[00:27:49] And I just wanted to share that as a woman, those comments were extremely offensive to me.

[00:27:55] And I think to a lot of women.

[00:27:57] Jodi, I think the main characteristic was what she actually led with, which was that she's a Democrat.

[00:28:04] So I think a lot of this stuff gets reverse engineered.

[00:28:06] People find reasons to vote for the people that they are already inclined to support.

[00:28:14] Right?

[00:28:15] I think that's generally what was going on there.

[00:28:18] Jodi, I do appreciate the call.

[00:28:19] I'm going to try to get a couple others on here.

[00:28:21] This is Tom.

[00:28:22] Hello, Tom.

[00:28:23] Welcome to the show.

[00:28:26] Tom.

[00:28:27] Oh, okay.

[00:28:27] Well, I guess I'm not getting Tom on.

[00:28:30] Well, Tom says we've already had a woman president for the last four years.

[00:28:35] Well, yeah, I mean, that's a fair point, too.

[00:28:38] Right?

[00:28:39] Jill Biden.

[00:28:39] Oh, sorry.

[00:28:40] You call her Dr. Jill.

[00:28:42] Dr. Jill Biden.

[00:28:46] Let's see.

[00:28:47] Bob says, I am a wasp.

[00:28:50] Jewish tendencies from Trump's generation.

[00:28:52] Therefore, I got to vote Trump to allow him to finish his work.

[00:28:55] Yeah.

[00:28:56] Yeah.

[00:28:57] I mean, I just I don't.

[00:28:58] Again, I understand why people feel an affinity towards somebody that's, quote, like them.

[00:29:04] I get that.

[00:29:06] Yeah.

[00:29:07] Yay.

[00:29:08] This is our guy.

[00:29:08] Like I mentioned JFK.

[00:29:10] Joe Biden's Catholic.

[00:29:11] So Catholics like, oh, a Catholic in the White House.

[00:29:13] Right.

[00:29:14] Well.

[00:29:15] I mean, he's ostensibly a Catholic, theoretically a Catholic.

[00:29:19] Right.

[00:29:19] But.

[00:29:21] People, they have a sense of pride in that their guy got in or a member of their community got

[00:29:27] in.

[00:29:27] I understand that.

[00:29:28] I understood it with Obama, too.

[00:29:29] I made that very argument argument when I was on the air here.

[00:29:32] So I understand that.

[00:29:34] I don't think that should be the the thing that makes you vote for somebody, though.

[00:29:42] Especially if it's somebody that you don't agree with.

[00:29:44] But I suspect she that I suspect Gail agrees with Kamala Harris's policies and political

[00:29:50] affiliation.

[00:29:51] And she's more comfortable with that.

[00:29:55] And the black woman characteristics are gravy.

[00:30:00] Right.

[00:30:00] It's like even better now.

[00:30:01] Yay.

[00:30:04] Scott says, I can't help but wonder how many people can be so brainwashed.

[00:30:08] Madam Vice President claims to be working and representing the middle class when the

[00:30:12] policies of the current administration have done nothing to nothing but crush the middle

[00:30:16] class.

[00:30:16] Just don't understand how people aren't getting this simple fact.

[00:30:20] Just go to the grocery store and remind me again how what's happening now and what would

[00:30:24] continue to happen if she's elected is helping the middle class.

[00:30:26] Well, I mean, that's one of the benefits of creating an economically illiterate citizenry.

[00:30:33] When people don't understand how spending impacts their inflation, then you end up with these

[00:30:41] types of oversights, shall we say.

[00:30:43] All right.

[00:30:43] That'll do it for this episode.

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