Alito's flag, nebulous abortion views, & killing the filibuster (05-17-2024--Hour3)

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[00:00:29] I'm going to move on from the, uh, uh, from the Kansas city, Kansas city chief kicker

[00:00:37] story.

[00:00:39] That is a tongue twister by the way.

[00:00:40] Say that.

[00:00:41] Okay.

[00:00:42] Um, but I just saw this from Shannon Bream.

[00:00:45] Um, you know, formerly of WBTV right down the hall here.

[00:00:51] Um, she's now at Fox news.

[00:00:53] Uh, she's a, she's a trained lawyer by the way.

[00:00:57] Super smart.

[00:00:59] Just like one of the nicest people you will ever meet.

[00:01:02] Um, so she, for years, and I think she still may be, she's a host and all, but she for

[00:01:08] years covered the Supreme court and still does.

[00:01:10] Cause like I said, she was a lawyer and I don't know if she still is.

[00:01:14] I don't know whatever, but I know she was a trained lawyer.

[00:01:16] Um, and she just said, have you heard this story about, uh, chief or not chief justice,

[00:01:24] the Supreme court justice, Sam Alito flying the American flag upside down at his house.

[00:01:30] Have you heard this story?

[00:01:31] Oh my gosh.

[00:01:33] This is like they're going, they're going to get him tossed off the bench.

[00:01:36] Right?

[00:01:37] Having, having succeeded in removing Clarence Thomas from the bench, the lefties and media,

[00:01:42] but I repeat myself are going to now target Sam Alito for removal given their success

[00:01:48] with Clarence Thomas.

[00:01:52] They're making a big deal about this.

[00:01:53] The New York times did a story on it and everybody's like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe he flew

[00:01:57] the flag upside down.

[00:01:58] Why did he fly the flag upside down?

[00:02:00] It doesn't matter.

[00:02:01] It was just around the election.

[00:02:04] So Shannon Bream says, I spoke directly with justice Alito about the flag story in the New

[00:02:09] York times.

[00:02:10] In addition to what's in the story, he told me that a neighbor on their street had a let's

[00:02:17] go Brandon except it's let's go Donald Trump.

[00:02:21] Okay.

[00:02:22] That was a sleep Trump.

[00:02:23] It said that was within 50 feet of where children await the school bus.

[00:02:29] This was in January of 2021 so Mrs Alito brought this up with that neighbor, which is what

[00:02:37] you're supposed to do.

[00:02:38] You go to your next door neighbor or whatever and you're like, Hey, bus stop is right there.

[00:02:43] You got vulgarity on your sign.

[00:02:45] Would you mind, you know, removing the sign because you know, we got little kids out here.

[00:02:51] According to justice Alito, things escalated and the neighbor put up a sign personally

[00:02:56] addressing Mrs Alito and blaming her for the January 6th attacks.

[00:03:05] Wouldn't you love to live near this guy?

[00:03:07] Wow.

[00:03:09] Justice Alito says that he and his wife were walking in the neighborhood and there were

[00:03:12] words then between Mrs Alito and a male at the home with the sign.

[00:03:19] Alito says the man engaged in vulgar language, including the C word.

[00:03:29] Actually hang on a second.

[00:03:30] What did, uh, what did that Kansas city chief kicker say about masculinity?

[00:03:34] Something, um, following that exchange, Mrs Alito was distraught and hung the flag upside

[00:03:43] down for a short time.

[00:03:45] Quote unquote justice Alito says some neighbors on his street are very political and acknowledges

[00:03:50] it was a very heated time in January of 2021.

[00:03:54] And of course the left, he's like, that's still no excuse.

[00:03:59] Really?

[00:04:00] I mean, these are the people that rioted during Donald Trump's inauguration, right?

[00:04:07] I mean, spare me once again, the issue is never the issue.

[00:04:12] The issue is always the revolution, right?

[00:04:14] The action is your reaction to what the law always comes down to.

[00:04:19] If somebody other than Mrs Alito had said something, maybe the guy would have taken

[00:04:24] the sign down.

[00:04:25] But here's the thing too.

[00:04:26] Do you not know any other words besides that you want to express displeasure in who the

[00:04:31] president is?

[00:04:33] Okay.

[00:04:34] You want to, you want to, uh, insult the president at the time because of the J six stuff you

[00:04:41] want to go after it.

[00:04:42] Fine.

[00:04:43] Do so whatever.

[00:04:44] But, um, I don't know.

[00:04:47] Do you know any words longer than four letters that you could use on that sign?

[00:04:51] You obviously made it yourself.

[00:04:52] So, and then you made another one, uh, yelling at your, your neighbor's wife.

[00:05:00] And then you engaged in a profanity lace barrage against her.

[00:05:05] Like this, like the thing I take away from this is the person is insane.

[00:05:13] Um, so anyway, that's the rest of the story there.

[00:05:18] Thank you, Shannon Bream.

[00:05:19] I shall hang on a second.

[00:05:20] I shall retweet that.

[00:05:23] So people, Oh, sorry.

[00:05:24] It's called a post now.

[00:05:26] Repost.

[00:05:28] Um, queen city news, they reprinted or republished on their website, a story from WGHP.

[00:05:39] I guess it's, uh, in the same affiliate family as they are.

[00:05:44] And the headline on this is where do North Carolina's candidates for governor stand on

[00:05:50] abortion one year after lawmakers overrode veto to pass law.

[00:05:56] It's kind of a lengthy headline.

[00:05:59] And look, this is, um, this is kind of just a rehash based off of press releases and website

[00:06:05] statements.

[00:06:09] You got to make slot, you got to fill the news hole.

[00:06:12] That's what this is about.

[00:06:13] Right?

[00:06:14] So on the one year anniversary, the North Carolina, when the North Carolina legislature voted

[00:06:20] to override the governor's veto of a law that made abortion illegal after 12 weeks,

[00:06:26] that's three months.

[00:06:27] So after the first trimester, except in the case of certain medical emergencies.

[00:06:32] Okay.

[00:06:33] So it's a year ago while abortion is not on the ballot in November, abortion has remained

[00:06:39] a hot topic.

[00:06:42] Hmm.

[00:06:44] Why?

[00:06:46] Once again, another example of this, this, uh, this illusion that people in the media

[00:06:55] offer up as if they have no role in what we talk about.

[00:07:00] Right?

[00:07:01] Did you know that it was a year ago?

[00:07:03] Did you know that there was a, there's a one year anniversary of the override of the veto?

[00:07:07] No, I follow this stuff and I didn't know it, but it's a hot topic.

[00:07:12] Once again, media folks, reporters, journalists, you are in the political arena.

[00:07:19] You are actors on the stage.

[00:07:23] You may not want to believe that you may try to tell yourself you are not, you're kidding

[00:07:28] yourself.

[00:07:29] You're deluding yourself.

[00:07:30] Others will just deny it knowing that they are and they just lie.

[00:07:34] But when in fact they know that they are actors in the play, they are literally telling the

[00:07:39] stories here.

[00:07:42] And the stories are about what media make them.

[00:07:43] And this is the way media makes abortion part of this election cycle because media people

[00:07:49] think it's important for you to know everyone's position on abortion because they think it

[00:07:55] will, we're down to the benefit of Josh Stein, the Democrat.

[00:07:58] And how do I know that?

[00:07:59] Well, from this story, I know that because there's no, um, there are no details in what

[00:08:04] Josh Stein offers up and they allow that to pass as quote his position.

[00:08:12] And it's not his position.

[00:08:13] We don't know his position.

[00:08:14] We, we literally do not know his position.

[00:08:18] So because he won't tell us any kind of limiting principle on the matter, I have to believe

[00:08:24] that he is totally okay with abortion on demand up until some point I'm thinking based on

[00:08:30] geography of the entire baby outside the mother's body.

[00:08:37] But I'm not sure.

[00:08:39] Like I don't know if he's going with the whole, uh, uh, what was the, what was the

[00:08:42] governor?

[00:08:43] Uh, what was the governor in Virginia?

[00:08:45] Wasn't McAuliffe Terry McAuliffe.

[00:08:47] No, it wasn't him.

[00:08:48] Who was the other guy?

[00:08:51] The Democrat up in Virginia.

[00:08:52] I gosh, I can't even remember his name now.

[00:08:55] North, uh, North Northam Northam North room.

[00:08:59] Something route Ralph.

[00:09:01] No, that's, that's Ralph Norman.

[00:09:03] That's a Congressman from South Carolina.

[00:09:06] But yeah, maybe I forget his name.

[00:09:09] But the Virginia governor who was like, well, you know, we'll deliver the baby and then

[00:09:11] just let it die on the table.

[00:09:12] Make it comfortable.

[00:09:13] Right?

[00:09:14] Never.

[00:09:15] It was like, what?

[00:09:16] No, no, no.

[00:09:17] It's totally fine.

[00:09:18] You don't understand abortion procedures and all this stuff.

[00:09:21] What was it?

[00:09:22] Ralph Northam.

[00:09:23] Nor it was Ralph Northam.

[00:09:25] Wow.

[00:09:26] Governor there when I moved up there.

[00:09:27] Oh, see, well you didn't say that he had personal knowledge of the situation.

[00:09:31] Thank you Tommy.

[00:09:32] But that's weird.

[00:09:33] Ralph Northam and Ralph Norman.

[00:09:37] Very similar.

[00:09:38] Um, but not at all, but kind of a little bit anyway.

[00:09:41] Um, I don't know what Josh Stein's position is on any kind of limiting principle.

[00:09:47] He hasn't articulated one and nobody in the media is asking him.

[00:09:50] And this article that's supposed that it's supposed to answer the question, where do

[00:09:54] the candidates stand on abortion?

[00:09:58] We don't know.

[00:10:00] And in fact, it's not just, um, it's not just Josh Stein.

[00:10:06] It's also Mike Ross, the libertarian.

[00:10:07] We don't know his view either.

[00:10:10] So again, I have to believe that it's, it's up to the point of birth and I guess that

[00:10:15] means fully birthed.

[00:10:16] I don't know.

[00:10:17] But if you don't give me a limiting principle, I'm going to assume that it is the far end

[00:10:21] of that extreme.

[00:10:23] I have to because you're not saying it's not.

[00:10:26] And that is by design.

[00:10:28] All right.

[00:10:30] WGHP, um, television station.

[00:10:34] They do a story on, uh, the abortion views, uh, of the candidates for governor because

[00:10:41] they say it's a hot topic as if they have nothing to do with driving the news cycle.

[00:10:45] Um, the election season's heating up across the state and more broadly across the United

[00:10:49] States and polling shows it's an issue that voters are paying attention to.

[00:10:53] It's actually not an issue that most voters are paying attention to when you ask them

[00:10:57] like all of the issues, abortion is usually pretty low, particularly among non leftists.

[00:11:03] Okay.

[00:11:04] So they asked Mark Robinson, they provided a statement and they just posted this.

[00:11:10] So they posted a statement.

[00:11:11] So that makes up the first part of this story.

[00:11:14] And they say, uh, Robinson's campaign says that he is pro-life because of the painful

[00:11:20] and difficult experience he and his wife had as well as his faith.

[00:11:24] He said that as governor, he would sign a heartbeat bill with exceptions for rape, incest,

[00:11:29] and when the life of the mother is in danger, Lieutenant Governor Robinson also wants to

[00:11:34] turn North Carolina into a destination state for life by doing more to support women that

[00:11:39] choose life like improving our foster care and adoption systems and preserving access

[00:11:44] to IVF.

[00:11:46] Um, Mike Ross, libertarian.

[00:11:51] He states on his website, the government must be removed from the doctor patient relationship.

[00:11:58] I agree on that, by the way.

[00:12:01] I agree.

[00:12:03] Remove the doctor with baby relation, right?

[00:12:07] Remove, oh, the baby's not the patient.

[00:12:12] Okay.

[00:12:13] We will end unnecessary regulations and endless bureaucracy that drives up healthcare costs

[00:12:17] and results in subpar outcomes, ending certificate of need, ending prescription import restrictions,

[00:12:22] requiring medical billing transparency and essential, are all essential to freeing the

[00:12:26] market to better serve North Carolina.

[00:12:28] Okay.

[00:12:29] So he doesn't say.

[00:12:30] He says abortion on demand until, uh, what, uh, completely out of the birth canal.

[00:12:34] I assume, I don't know.

[00:12:36] I assume Josh Stein quote today marks the anniversary of a devastating loss of freedom,

[00:12:41] protection and access to healthcare for women across North Carolina.

[00:12:44] The Republican general assembly's abortion ban.

[00:12:47] It's not an abortion ban still legal through the first trimester, which is actually, uh,

[00:12:53] that's still less than, uh, what are we at?

[00:12:57] Uh, 12 weeks, which is on par with Europe.

[00:13:00] Um, the Republican general assembly, a ban on abortion, uh, critical reproductive healthcare

[00:13:05] outputs and out of reach for many women, uh, particularly those who live in rural areas

[00:13:09] and it interferes with doctor's ability to make sound medical decisions for their patients.

[00:13:13] Unfortunately, it only represents the beginning of what Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson

[00:13:17] wants for our state, a total ban on abortion with no exceptions, which of course I just

[00:13:21] read to you a statement, which is not true.

[00:13:24] Um, I will continue to defend women's reproductive freedoms.

[00:13:27] And then he goes on to say some other stuff about, um, a bunch of politicians, you know,

[00:13:32] making your decisions and all that.

[00:13:34] Again, what's missing?

[00:13:35] Any kind of detail about a limiting principle.

[00:13:40] Neither the libertarian nor the Democrat candidate for governor tell you what kinds

[00:13:46] of, uh, limiting principles they have in mind on this topic.

[00:13:52] That is by design.

[00:13:54] That is by design.

[00:13:57] They either haven't thought it through, that's the benefit of the doubt, but I don't believe

[00:14:00] that to be the case.

[00:14:02] They do not want to have to say what any kind of limiting principle would be because they

[00:14:06] are afraid of dividing their, uh, or defining their position and thus dividing their support.

[00:14:13] Right?

[00:14:14] They don't want to alienate people by saying, this is what I believe in, this is what should

[00:14:18] be done.

[00:14:19] And then offering up explanations and defenses for those positions.

[00:14:23] And this is what happens, right?

[00:14:25] A lot of times, particularly among Democrats, when you don't have to make your arguments,

[00:14:30] you just get to say your bromide or your slogan.

[00:14:33] And then it just gets dutifully written down, regurgitated, and that's that.

[00:14:39] Unchallenged ideas are easy to hold, very easy to hold.

[00:14:44] Politicians get challenged on their ideas often, very often.

[00:14:49] So they actually have to have thought through some of their positions and have to actually

[00:14:54] articulate defenses of those positions.

[00:14:57] Not all the time, hashtag not all positions, but in a lot of them, this is one of them.

[00:15:03] And the fact that Stein still gets to skate on this is really, it, that's illustrative

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[00:16:05] We have some NBC News reporting that the fate of the Senate filibuster is on the ballot

[00:16:13] in the 2024 election as Democrats rally around weakening the 60 vote threshold to pass major

[00:16:21] legislation like codifying abortion rights and bolstering federal voting rights.

[00:16:26] I find this interesting also.

[00:16:27] It has to do with like this theme throughout the whole show today.

[00:16:31] Have you noticed that things are only controversial when they're espoused by people on the right?

[00:16:47] Why is it that these are radical ideas like what the guy from the Chiefs said at the

[00:16:52] speech?

[00:16:53] These are not radical ideas.

[00:16:55] Those ideas have been around for a very, very, very long time.

[00:16:59] And somehow or another, it's always like that the right is transgressing when it's

[00:17:04] not really the left that has been pushing and pushing and pushing.

[00:17:08] And then the action is the reaction.

[00:17:09] Then the right says, no, no, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, no.

[00:17:12] And all of a sudden it's like, oh my gosh, what a controversial position you're taking.

[00:17:17] As if one view is automatically de facto progress, even though there's little evidence or sometimes

[00:17:24] evidence to the contrary that it is in fact progress.

[00:17:28] There's another one blowing up the filibuster because that's remember what Donald Trump

[00:17:33] was attacked by the media and the Democrats, but I repeat myself for blowing up the norms.

[00:17:39] He doesn't respect our norms and the way things have been done in DC and all of this.

[00:17:46] And yet here we have the Democrats attempting and not even attempting, they're promising

[00:17:51] this.

[00:17:52] This is what they're campaigning on.

[00:17:53] They will destroy the filibuster.

[00:17:56] Oh, and by the way, they may get some help in doing it from Donald Trump.

[00:18:04] If Trump wins, he has already been talking about blowing up the filibuster to get what

[00:18:08] he wants done too.

[00:18:09] And that should be a pretty good indication that if they're both on board with blowing

[00:18:14] it up so they can ram stuff through, maybe let's not do that.

[00:18:23] But I suspect we're going to have a lot of Republican quote unquote voters that all of

[00:18:27] a sudden see the light when it comes to blowing up the filibuster.

[00:18:32] Back to the NBC News story.

[00:18:34] If President Joe Biden is reelected and Democrats control the Senate, they would probably have

[00:18:38] the votes to change the filibuster.

[00:18:40] The cause has become a litmus test inside the party backed by senators who will remain

[00:18:45] in office next year, as well as the party's candidates in key races that'll decide which

[00:18:49] party controls the majority.

[00:18:52] Meanwhile, Senators Joe Manchin, Democrat from West Virginia, and Kyrsten Sinema, Independent

[00:18:58] from Arizona, they're retiring.

[00:19:02] So they're not going to be there to block this from happening.

[00:19:06] Now under the current filibuster, 60 votes are needed to begin and end debate on most

[00:19:12] legislation.

[00:19:14] So that means if you don't have 60 votes to move a piece of legislation up for debate,

[00:19:18] it effectively kills the bill.

[00:19:21] Senator Jeff Merkley, Democrat from Oregon, said that he's optimistic Democrats will have

[00:19:26] enough support for quote, reforming the filibuster.

[00:19:30] By the way, this is also, I mean, it's not just so they could do gun laws and abortion

[00:19:34] laws.

[00:19:36] It's also to pack the Supreme Court.

[00:19:38] That's the intention.

[00:19:39] That's the real goal here.

[00:19:41] Pack the US Supreme Court.

[00:19:42] So this way they can get all of the rulings that the leftists want in order to undermine

[00:19:47] the legislative process and it becomes largely irrelevant.

[00:19:50] Right?

[00:19:51] Well, I mean, it will still have relevance obviously for people who hold the positions

[00:19:55] and are able to cut TikTok videos and fundraise and make a bunch of money by trading insider

[00:20:00] stock tips.

[00:20:01] But aside from that, the legislative body doesn't really do anything after that.

[00:20:07] Right?

[00:20:08] Why?

[00:20:09] How could it?

[00:20:10] If you have the US Supreme Court in place, then all you need is a couple of lawsuits

[00:20:12] to, you know, try to win some novel kinds of interpretations and you'll have the lawyers

[00:20:20] in the robes writing law under the filibuster.

[00:20:29] Sixty votes are needed.

[00:20:30] They want to quote, reform it and impose a talking filibuster in the next Congress.

[00:20:37] So a minority cannot block bills without continuously holding the floor and talking.

[00:20:43] Okay, now I'm listening.

[00:20:46] So you're not getting rid of the filibuster.

[00:20:48] You're getting rid of the, oh, was it the administrative or no, the procedural filibuster

[00:20:56] where you just basically say, I filibuster and that's it.

[00:21:01] I have said for years, I've said for years, I think the filibuster should be a talking

[00:21:08] one.

[00:21:09] If you're going to have a talking filibuster, then you need to get up there and you need

[00:21:12] to do what I do every single day and run your mouth nonstop for three hours.

[00:21:17] That's not actually true because I take commercial breaks, but they can do that too.

[00:21:20] They can hand it off to other people.

[00:21:22] You know, you could do tag teams and stuff.

[00:21:26] So I'm, so now I'm a little bit more, if that's what you're looking to do is to say, okay,

[00:21:30] you can't just say you filibuster, you actually have to do the filibuster.

[00:21:34] So in my mind, what this means then is that a lot of stuff doesn't happen.

[00:21:39] You're going to have a lot of speeches on the floor.

[00:21:40] I mean, look at right.

[00:21:42] Think of all of the YouTube gold that can be mined here, right?

[00:21:47] You get guys up there after like seven, eight, 12, 14 hours or something, they're going to

[00:21:52] be delirious.

[00:21:53] It's going to be awesome.

[00:21:56] And then they're not going to get stuff passed.

[00:21:58] I don't know what happens.

[00:21:59] Eventually do they pull the bill because no one, but because I think people have to stay

[00:22:02] there too.

[00:22:04] They can't gavel out a session if someone's filibustering.

[00:22:09] Merkley said, unfortunately, two folks decided to support the no effort obstruction as opposed

[00:22:15] to the talking filibuster.

[00:22:16] But I think everyone who's staying is pretty supportive of going through the process of

[00:22:20] making the Senate work again.

[00:22:22] It would have far reaching impacts in establishing majority rule in a chamber that has normalized

[00:22:27] requiring a super majority to pass most bills over the last two decades with a key exception

[00:22:33] for temporary changes to taxes and spending, which you'll recall is how they got through

[00:22:36] the Obamacare, right?

[00:22:40] They call it an undemocratic choke point.

[00:22:45] The problem is that they get, they got to get a majority of the Senate and right now

[00:22:49] the numbers don't look so great for them.

[00:22:52] Adam Schiff for brain says that he'd prefer major swings in policy to current gridlock

[00:23:00] because he's running for US Senate.

[00:23:04] And he says the Republican policies are so reactionary, backward and unpopular that should

[00:23:09] they ever really be in a position to put them into effect, they'll be voted out of

[00:23:14] office in a heartbeat.

[00:23:15] He said, which is why Merrick Garland is on the US Supreme Court right now.

[00:23:23] How that happened.

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