Alito: Recusal demands are meant to influence rulings (05-30-2024--Hour1)

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[00:00:29] Apparently, we're still doing the Flagsgate.

[00:00:34] That's what I'm calling it.

[00:00:35] I was toying around with the idea of calling it Aledo Gate or Martha Ann Gate because it's

[00:00:43] really about Martha Ann because she's the flag head in the family.

[00:00:50] But then I was thinking, well, no, Flaggate, I guess that's fine.

[00:00:52] You know, it's you know, this is probably only going to last one news cycle, maybe two.

[00:00:58] Joke's on me.

[00:00:59] We're into like day five of this stupidity and there's, you know, two flags now.

[00:01:07] And so it's got to be multiple.

[00:01:09] It's got to be plural Flagsgate.

[00:01:11] Obviously, the first flag that's part of Flaggate we covered the other day.

[00:01:17] This was the upside down flag that was flying at the Fairfax, Virginia home of the Supreme

[00:01:27] Court Justice Sam Aledo.

[00:01:29] His wife had run the flag up that flagpole.

[00:01:33] In a sign of distress over neighborhood tensions that were brewing with some leftist zoomers

[00:01:40] who is that what they're called?

[00:01:42] Gen Z's zoomers, aren't these right?

[00:01:44] Aren't they called the zoomers?

[00:01:46] The zoom generation?

[00:01:47] I don't know.

[00:01:50] Are these 30 year olds or whatever that moved in with mommy across the street during the

[00:01:55] pandemic, adopted a pandemic puppy and then, of course, went out and protested for the

[00:01:59] BLM and protested in front of Aledo's house and wrote all of these nasty, vulgar signs

[00:02:05] and posted them on their mommy's property.

[00:02:08] You know, bleep Trump this and you're responsible.

[00:02:11] And then, of course, would drive by the Aledo's house just to see what's going on.

[00:02:16] And then, of course, when Martha Ann Aledo takes umbrage at this harassment from her

[00:02:21] neighbor's leftist child and her child's husband, who is unnamed because I guess he

[00:02:29] works for the government or is in the military or something.

[00:02:32] Not allowed to have expressed political opinions, part of his job description or something or

[00:02:37] prohibition for his job.

[00:02:38] So we don't know the husband's name, but not that it even matters.

[00:02:43] The point is that these 30 year olds engaged in a targeted harassment campaign against

[00:02:49] Martha Ann Aledo and then claim victim when four years later the story gets out that,

[00:02:57] oh, they they flew the American flag upside down.

[00:03:00] When The Washington Post initially learned of this story, it was actually that day where

[00:03:06] the the neighbor's kids did the drive by that prompted the altercation, the yelling and

[00:03:12] screaming back and forth where the the youngsters called the wife, the 70 year old wife of

[00:03:18] Sam Aledo, the C word.

[00:03:21] And so loudly, apparently that neighbors heard it and told The New York Times that this

[00:03:27] occurred. New York Times did the story the other day.

[00:03:30] And then The Washington Post was like, yeah, we had that story three years ago, but we

[00:03:33] didn't think it was that big of a deal because it was a neighborhood spat because that's

[00:03:38] what it was. But.

[00:03:41] The key here is you got to get Sam Aledo off the court.

[00:03:46] Before these cases come through, the J6 case and the Trump immunity case, right?

[00:03:51] Like these are the.

[00:03:53] These are the keys for the left.

[00:03:55] And if you don't believe me, well, Jamie Raskin, the congressman from Maryland, wrote an entire

[00:04:02] op ed in The New York Times yesterday arguing that the Department of Justice should force

[00:04:10] Aledo and Clarence Thomas to recuse themselves.

[00:04:15] This has never happened before in the history of this country.

[00:04:18] This has never happened, which I'm so glad.

[00:04:19] I mean, could you imagine the norms busting that would be occurring right now if Donald

[00:04:25] Trump was president?

[00:04:26] Oh, my gosh.

[00:04:27] Like.

[00:04:28] Right, like we would we would be just obliterating all of the norms.

[00:04:33] Thank God we've got Joe Biden and his merry cabal of leftists surrounding him and his

[00:04:39] administration in order to preserve and protect all of the institutions and the norms that

[00:04:44] we have relied upon to govern ourselves for so long.

[00:04:48] So there's a novel idea now we're going to go ahead and use Merrick Garland, the DOJ,

[00:04:52] to try to boot a couple of Supreme Court justices off the court, at least for a couple of cases.

[00:04:58] Or, you know, the other justices, they could try to boot the others off.

[00:05:02] Raskin lays out a couple of different options that are available.

[00:05:05] But here's the problem.

[00:05:06] The law is not on their side.

[00:05:08] It's not on their side.

[00:05:09] It's not going to stop them.

[00:05:10] But it is something that we should be able to kind of look at and say, who's right and

[00:05:15] who's wrong.

[00:05:17] And Sam Alito has now written a letter.

[00:05:21] He wrote this yesterday and it was published yesterday that he is just as I was getting

[00:05:26] off the air, he's not going to recuse himself and he cites the law for why.

[00:05:33] And I guess now he's being advised that he's got to get his women under control or his

[00:05:40] woman.

[00:05:41] Clarence Thomas got to get his woman under control.

[00:05:43] You got to get your women under control.

[00:05:46] Right.

[00:05:47] That's the argument from the left or something.

[00:05:51] So a letter was sent over to Alito from Dick Durbin and Shelley Whitehouse, he of the whites

[00:05:58] only country club membership.

[00:06:02] So Durbin and Whitehouse, which honestly with a name like Whitehouse, like how could you

[00:06:07] not expect him to be part of a whites only country?

[00:06:10] Right.

[00:06:11] Literally his name.

[00:06:13] How many times I keep pointing this out, like these stories that come up, it's like a it's

[00:06:17] like a fictional tale where the author names the people, the villains and the heroes names

[00:06:23] them things.

[00:06:24] So you remember who the characters are based on their last name, you know.

[00:06:29] So Shelley Whitehouse and Dick Durbin.

[00:06:33] Oh, yeah, that too.

[00:06:35] OK, never mind.

[00:06:37] This is in response.

[00:06:38] This is what Alito wrote them.

[00:06:40] And I feel this is important because they're trying to remove a U.S. Supreme Court justice

[00:06:45] based on two flags that were flown at one house where he lives and the other house,

[00:06:52] a beach house in New Jersey, which I think is actually reason enough to kick him off

[00:06:57] the Supreme Court, maybe even imprison him.

[00:07:01] Just picking New Jersey for your beach house.

[00:07:02] I kid New Jersey, I kid.

[00:07:05] But I never pass up the opportunity.

[00:07:07] OK, so he sends this letter to Durbin and Whitehouse and he explains to them that there

[00:07:13] is the applicable provision in the code of conduct.

[00:07:17] And there are two parts.

[00:07:19] Number one, a justice is presumed impartial and has an obligation to sit unless disqualified.

[00:07:27] Right.

[00:07:28] So obligations, a higher standard.

[00:07:30] You have an obligation.

[00:07:32] You took an oath.

[00:07:33] You're supposed to be there.

[00:07:36] And the judge is presumed to be impartial.

[00:07:39] And number two, a justice should disqualify himself or herself in a proceeding in which

[00:07:45] the justices impartiality might reasonably be questioned.

[00:07:51] That is, where an unbiased that's a key and reasonable person.

[00:07:57] So that rules out all of the Democrats, an unbiased and reasonable person who is aware

[00:08:03] of all relevant circumstances would doubt that the justice could fairly discharge his

[00:08:08] or her duties.

[00:08:09] Right.

[00:08:10] So there are two tests there, unbiased, reasonable and aware of all relevant circumstances.

[00:08:18] And so what Alito lays out in this letter are the relevant circumstances.

[00:08:23] And the only way you get to a disqualification is if you are biased and unreasonable.

[00:08:31] And he lays it all out.

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[00:09:26] All righty.

[00:09:27] So Justice Alito has written a letter to Senators Dick Durbin and Sheldon Whitehouse explaining

[00:09:33] why he is not going to recuse himself from these cases involving January 6th and Donald

[00:09:39] Trump, because basically you guys are full of crap.

[00:09:43] That's that's I'm reading between the lines here.

[00:09:45] OK, but it's true.

[00:09:46] The two incidents, he says, that you cite two flags, one upside down flag at his house in

[00:09:52] Virginia after the neighborhood spat and the other, the pine tree flag flying at the Beach

[00:09:57] House in New Jersey.

[00:10:01] Those are the two incidents.

[00:10:03] He says the first incident cited in your letter concerns the flying of an upside down

[00:10:07] American flag outside the house in Virginia where my wife and I reside.

[00:10:15] In considering whether this event requires recusal, an unbiased and reasonable person

[00:10:21] that those are the standards, unbiased and reasonable person would take into account

[00:10:26] the following facts.

[00:10:27] As I have stated publicly, I had nothing whatsoever to do with the flying of that flag.

[00:10:31] I was not even aware of the upside down flag until it was called to my attention.

[00:10:34] As soon as I saw it, I asked my wife to take it down.

[00:10:38] But for several days she refused.

[00:10:44] You know what that's like, guys, right?

[00:10:46] That's OK.

[00:10:49] I just hey, can you take the flag down?

[00:10:52] No, I'm not taking the flag down.

[00:10:54] OK, I'm out.

[00:10:55] My wife and I own our Virginia home jointly.

[00:10:59] She therefore has the legal right to use the property as she sees fit.

[00:11:04] And there were no additional steps that I could have taken to have the flag taken down

[00:11:08] more promptly.

[00:11:10] My wife's reasons for flying the flag are not relevant for present purposes, but I know

[00:11:16] that she was greatly distressed at the time due in large part to a very nasty neighborhood

[00:11:21] dispute in which I had no involvement.

[00:11:24] A house on the street displayed a sign attacking her personally and a man who was living in

[00:11:29] the house at the time trailed her all the way down the street and berated her in my

[00:11:33] presence using foul language, including what I regard as the vilest epithet that can be

[00:11:40] addressed to a woman.

[00:11:42] This is this is antagonism.

[00:11:44] This is left wing reaction inducement.

[00:11:48] The action is the reaction.

[00:11:50] Sometimes the action is direct action.

[00:11:52] It is the thing that you're trying to do.

[00:11:53] But usually the tactic is to prompt a reaction, to get Sam Alito to punch your teeth down

[00:11:59] your throat because you called his wife the C word.

[00:12:03] Right.

[00:12:04] That would be the reaction.

[00:12:05] And then you can get Sam Alito thrown off the Supreme Court.

[00:12:08] Then you can get him charged with a crime and all this other stuff.

[00:12:12] I am confident, he says.

[00:12:13] Oh, hang on.

[00:12:17] She has made sacrifices to accommodate my service on the Supreme Court, including the

[00:12:23] insult of having to endure numerous loud, obscene and personally insulting protests in

[00:12:29] front of our home that continue to this day and now threaten to escalate.

[00:12:35] I am confident that a reasonable person again, that's the standard who is not motivated by

[00:12:40] political or ideological considerations or a desire to affect the outcome of Supreme

[00:12:46] Court cases would conclude that the events recounted above do not meet the applicable

[00:12:51] standard for recusal and therefore required to reject your request.

[00:12:56] Required, he says he's required to because again, he has an obligation to sit for the

[00:13:03] proceedings, for the court.

[00:13:04] He has an obligation to do so.

[00:13:08] And a reasonable, unbiased observer with all of the relevant facts would know that this

[00:13:17] is not disqualifying.

[00:13:20] Unless of course, and he nails it too right here.

[00:13:23] Not just a reasonable person, but one who is not motivated by political or ideological

[00:13:29] considerations or a desire to affect the outcome of the cases.

[00:13:35] And that is what this is about.

[00:13:38] That's what this is about.

[00:13:39] All of these people on the left and the media, but I repeat myself that are like, oh my gosh,

[00:13:43] the pine tree flag.

[00:13:45] Nobody knew about this flag except the port, uh, the city of San Francisco, because apparently

[00:13:50] they've been flying the flag for like 20 years, not nonstop.

[00:13:53] They kind of rotate the flags, but it's one of the flags in their rotation and San Francisco

[00:13:58] has been flying this flag.

[00:13:59] You know who else marched with this flag and hung the flag up behind them during events?

[00:14:05] Black Lives Matter movement.

[00:14:07] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:14:10] They've got their images and video of people at BLM protests with the appeal to heaven

[00:14:16] flag waving in the background.

[00:14:19] They used it too because see when they wave their flags for revolution, that's acceptable.

[00:14:26] That's allowed.

[00:14:27] They can talk about revolution.

[00:14:29] They can talk about overthrowing the system.

[00:14:31] They can talk about dismantling all of the institutions, right?

[00:14:35] That's not insurrection.

[00:14:38] They can lay siege to a federal courthouse.

[00:14:40] They can burn a police station to the ground.

[00:14:42] They can create autonomous zones where they govern themselves outside of the law of the

[00:14:46] land, not insurrection.

[00:14:51] He says, I am confident a reasonable person would conclude these events do not meet the

[00:14:57] standard.

[00:14:58] And then he goes into the second event, which is the appeal to heaven flag, an appeal to

[00:15:01] heaven flag.

[00:15:03] So Samuel Alito's letter to Dick Durbin and Sheldon Whitehouse covers the first flag incident

[00:15:12] in Flags Gate.

[00:15:13] And now he proceeds to the second incident.

[00:15:17] The second incident concerns a flag bearing the legend, an appeal to heaven that flew

[00:15:24] in the backyard of our vacation home in the summer of 2023.

[00:15:30] Did you know that the flagpole was in the backyard of the home?

[00:15:34] I wasn't aware of that until last night when I read this letter.

[00:15:38] I recall, he says, that my wife did fly that flag for some period of time, but I do not

[00:15:42] remember how long it flew.

[00:15:44] And what is the most relevant here is I had no involvement in the decision to fly that

[00:15:49] flag.

[00:15:52] And then he goes on to say that his wife is fond of flying flags.

[00:15:57] I am not.

[00:16:01] All right, show of hands.

[00:16:03] Garden flags in the front yard, anybody?

[00:16:05] Mm-hmm.

[00:16:08] We have a—we don't have one actually right now.

[00:16:10] HOA, blah, blah, blah.

[00:16:11] But no, we're allowed to have garden flags.

[00:16:17] But years ago, before we moved out of our Steel Creek house, we had a flag, a garden

[00:16:23] flag holder, whatever those things are, you know, the little pole with the arm attached.

[00:16:28] And you know, the longer we were there, the more flags we accumulated.

[00:16:35] I'm not one who went out to buy the flags.

[00:16:37] And I think a couple of weeks ago, Christy and I, we were out at a store and we're walking

[00:16:42] around and we see the little garden flag thing like, oh, do you want to get a garden flag?

[00:16:46] And we look at the flags and there weren't any flags there.

[00:16:48] There was only like two or three variety and we're like, nah.

[00:16:52] So we're not motivated people when it comes to the flag flying, you know.

[00:16:57] But I don't object to them.

[00:16:59] It's just not anything that I want to spend my time or money on.

[00:17:01] Now, that being said, it's kind of like people who dress up their pets, right?

[00:17:06] Some people really love dressing up their pets.

[00:17:08] I am not one of them.

[00:17:09] I think it's cute to see.

[00:17:10] I don't have any objection to anybody else doing it.

[00:17:13] But me personally, I don't do it.

[00:17:16] I'd rather spend my money on other things.

[00:17:19] So now that being said, like we do have dish towels for like, I think every single holiday

[00:17:27] and every season, right?

[00:17:29] We've got tablecloths like that's so it's kind of flag like it's flag adjacent.

[00:17:33] Let's say it's flag adjacent.

[00:17:35] Right.

[00:17:36] So I understand this is Martha Ann Alito's dish towel.

[00:17:43] Right.

[00:17:44] This is her hobby.

[00:17:44] She likes the flags.

[00:17:46] Sam Alito does not.

[00:17:47] So fine.

[00:17:49] Do whatever you want.

[00:17:50] He says my wife was solely responsible for having the flagpoles put up at our residence

[00:17:56] and at our vacation home and has flown a wide variety of flags over the years.

[00:18:02] In addition to the American flag, she has flown other patriotic flags, including a favorite

[00:18:08] flag thanking veterans.

[00:18:10] She has flown other patriotic flags or other other flags that yeah, other flags supporting

[00:18:17] sports teams.

[00:18:19] State and local flags, flags of nations from which the ancestors of family members came,

[00:18:25] which might be problematic.

[00:18:28] Flags of well, I'm just trying to think like a leftist there, right?

[00:18:33] Flags of places we have visited, seasonal flags and religious flags.

[00:18:39] I was not familiar with the appeal to heaven flag when my wife flew it.

[00:18:45] So he didn't even know.

[00:18:48] She may have mentioned that it dates back to the American Revolution, and I assumed she

[00:18:53] was flying it to express a religious and patriotic message.

[00:18:57] I was not aware of any connection between this historic flag and the stop the steel

[00:19:03] movement and neither was my wife.

[00:19:08] She did not fly it to associate herself with that or any other group, and the use of an

[00:19:14] old historic flag by a new group does not necessarily drain that flag of all other meanings.

[00:19:24] I was talking about this last night on the live stream.

[00:19:28] The okay sign, right?

[00:19:30] The okay would make you the hand gesture, the hand sign, okay, right?

[00:19:34] Do you remember that whole thing about how it's white power, right?

[00:19:38] That was a troll op, as I call it, a troll op or a trollop, if you will.

[00:19:44] And it was done by the 4chan guys.

[00:19:46] 4chan is now shut down, I believe, and then it turned into like 8chan, which was twice

[00:19:51] as trolly or something.

[00:19:52] And then, I mean, these are people that would just put hoaxes into the media ecosystem to

[00:19:58] troll media to see if they could get you to report on something that wasn't true.

[00:20:03] And the okay symbol hand sign being a quote white power sign was their op.

[00:20:10] That was a trollop and the media fell for it.

[00:20:14] And that's how you ended up with Navy midshipmen getting investigated because they're showing

[00:20:19] the okay sign when they were actually playing the circle game, which is the game that, you

[00:20:26] know, dudes, did you ever play the circle game?

[00:20:29] Like where you do that and if you look, oh, see, I get to punch John Moore now.

[00:20:32] Darn it, I lost.

[00:20:33] See, that's how that works.

[00:20:34] That's it.

[00:20:35] That's all.

[00:20:36] If I get you to look at the circle, then I get to punch you two times.

[00:20:38] That's it.

[00:20:39] Like that's the game, quote game.

[00:20:40] We used to play it in high school.

[00:20:42] We were young, we were male, and we liked to punch each other.

[00:20:46] Like that's punch buggy was another one we played.

[00:20:52] Sometimes it didn't even require a game.

[00:20:53] You just punch each other.

[00:20:55] Anyway, this is the same thing that like you're now trying to make this fetch happen, right?

[00:21:02] You're trying to make fetch happen.

[00:21:03] And in this case, it's this flag.

[00:21:06] And the slight problem is, as I said, San Francisco has been flying it.

[00:21:10] Black Lives Matter has flown it.

[00:21:14] But now I'm supposed to believe that it means this thing that you say it means, and you

[00:21:19] have a motivated reason to tell me it means the worst possible thing because it just so

[00:21:25] happens to then support your argument that Alito has to recuse himself.

[00:21:30] But Alito's facts that he just presented, they don't support recusal.

[00:21:36] He says, as I said in reference to the other flag event, my wife is an independently minded

[00:21:43] private citizen.

[00:21:44] She makes her own decisions, and I honor her right to do so.

[00:21:48] Our vacation home was purchased with money she inherited from her parents, and it's titled

[00:21:54] in her name.

[00:21:57] So in other words, he didn't have any authority to do anything with that property.

[00:22:02] Well, I don't know what the marital asset split and all that is about, but I don't know

[00:22:08] what the laws might be up in New Jersey or Virginia or whatever.

[00:22:12] But no, because if it's a marital asset, you know, if it came to them after the marriage

[00:22:16] or was there some, did they have a prenup?

[00:22:19] Whatever, doesn't matter.

[00:22:21] He says it is a place away from Washington where she should be able to relax.

[00:22:25] A reasonable person who is not motive.

[00:22:28] I mean, think about what he's saying here too, by the way.

[00:22:32] This is the most normal thing, right?

[00:22:36] This is just the most normal and pedestrian thing that my wife likes to collect flags.

[00:22:45] She installed some flag poles, she buys different flags, she puts up different flags for different

[00:22:48] times of the year.

[00:22:52] And to have to explain this to people, there is no of any other reason except for unreasonableness,

[00:23:05] bias and a desire to affect a Supreme Court case outcome.

[00:23:13] This kind of pressure Democrats keep exerting on the Supreme Court would be a threat to

[00:23:18] the democracy if it was Donald Trump.

[00:23:21] If Republicans were applying pressure like this to sitting Supreme Court justices, by

[00:23:26] the way, who like Sonia Sotomayor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, right?

[00:23:32] They've got all sorts of reasons on all sorts of previous cases to have recused themselves

[00:23:36] and they never did.

[00:23:37] And we never heard a peep from these people ever.

[00:23:43] A reasonable person, he says, who is not motivated by political or ideological considerations

[00:23:50] or motivated by a desire to affect the outcome of Supreme Court cases would conclude that

[00:23:55] this event does not meet the applicable standard for recusal.

[00:23:58] I am therefore duty bound to reject your recusal request.

[00:24:04] Have I mentioned I really love the way Sam Alito writes?

[00:24:07] I love reading his opinions.

[00:24:09] And I loved reading the letter.

[00:24:11] Just guts them.

[00:24:13] Kyle Smith from The Wall Street Journal says they keep doing and suggesting things that

[00:24:17] have literally never been done or attempted in the history of this country like it's totally

[00:24:22] normal.

[00:24:23] Yeah, he's exactly right.

[00:24:25] This is all the norms, right?

[00:24:27] That's what we got with Joe Biden, a restoration of the norms.

[00:24:32] Remember?

[00:24:35] Jan says the, oh, until these people are willing to admit that Ruth Bader Ginsburg should have

[00:24:42] recused herself from anything dealing with Trump, given her active opposition to him

[00:24:48] being elected president, then they need to just shut up about this.

[00:24:52] Right?

[00:24:53] Well, no, they don't because it's a different standard, right?

[00:24:54] It's different when we do it, right?

[00:24:57] Because we're Democrats.

[00:24:59] That's the nice thing about being a Democrat is not only do you not even have to make arguments,

[00:25:04] but the standards that you apply to other people never have to apply to you.

[00:25:08] And I've said this for years, that the charge of hypocrisy carries no purchase any longer.

[00:25:13] And this is why we have a guy like Trump when and people are like, oh, but he's a hypocrite.

[00:25:17] He's doing things like that.

[00:25:18] You guys, you know, what about the evangelicals and all that?

[00:25:21] Hypocrisy carries no purchase any longer.

[00:25:24] Does not work.

[00:25:26] I don't like it.

[00:25:27] I would prefer we go back to the old ways, but.

[00:25:32] It's been a long time gone.

[00:25:35] So now it's just a fight over power.

[00:25:38] Oh, and thank goodness for the McClatchy papers, they went and found an example of the the

[00:25:50] the appeal to heaven.

[00:25:52] Flag the pine tree flag.

[00:25:54] You know who else flew it?

[00:25:55] Not the city of San Francisco and not Black Lives Matter.

[00:26:00] Mark Robinson.

[00:26:01] There you go, that's all you need to know.

[00:26:07] Racist Mark Robinson, Klansman Mark Robinson, the sitting the sitting lieutenant governor,

[00:26:14] Mark Robinson running for governor.

[00:26:18] So apparently the News and Observer, the McClatchy papers, they say they have a thing called

[00:26:23] NC Reality Check, which is what they call a series holding those in power accountable

[00:26:29] and shining a light on public issues that affect the triangle or North Carolina.

[00:26:34] So in other words, journalism, right?

[00:26:36] But you had to brand it as NC Reality Check because this is like your fact checking thing.

[00:26:41] Is this like, you know, the the Pat McCrory truthometer, I think is what they called it

[00:26:45] or or promise tracker or whatever that was.

[00:26:49] And then when Roy Cooper becomes governor, after they had spent four years trashing Pat

[00:26:55] and all the promises he made that he didn't keep lies, lies, lies.

[00:26:58] And then Roy Cooper gets into office and then they first off, they don't even do anything.

[00:27:02] And then they get shamed on social media by, yes, yours truly.

[00:27:07] But other people that were like, hey, where's your Cooper tracker?

[00:27:11] Where's your promise tracker for all Ray?

[00:27:13] My good friend Ray.

[00:27:14] Where's that?

[00:27:15] And they finally came up with one called the Cupo meter.

[00:27:18] Oh, wait, this was WRAL.

[00:27:20] Same scenario.

[00:27:21] They called it the Cupo meter.

[00:27:23] So they called like they call it the promise tracker for Pat where they track all of his

[00:27:28] broken promises.

[00:27:29] Right.

[00:27:30] But they call it the Cupo meter when it's Roy Cooper.

[00:27:33] And they only did like three.

[00:27:35] And they weren't and they were all like, mostly true.

[00:27:40] He totally would have done this thing.

[00:27:41] But for those those darn Republican kids, I would have gotten away with it.

[00:27:46] Roy Cooper would have got everything he wanted, if not for the Republicans.

[00:27:49] But here's the thing.

[00:27:50] Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson, he flew the flag.

[00:27:54] You know why?

[00:27:56] Because it was part of the office's celebration of Halifax Resolves Day.

[00:28:01] In other words, a Revolutionary War period celebration when the flag ties directly to

[00:28:08] that thing.

[00:28:09] All right.

[00:28:10] That'll do it for this episode.

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