Addiction and mental health... (12-26-2025--Hour3)
The Pete Kaliner ShowDecember 26, 202500:37:5334.73 MB

Addiction and mental health... (12-26-2025--Hour3)

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What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, I Daily Show prep with all the links, become a patron, go to dpeakclendarshow dot com make sure you hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for your support. Well continuing on with the coverage of illegals and such an a friendly reminder again to pray for our two officers who were shot and are in critical condition. Minhill Police Department. There was an exchange of custody and it went very bad at location and the police showed up. The suspect fire, they return fire, they kill them, but they are in critical condition. To pray for our two Minhill police officers. They're both, as I said, in critical condition. And I'm glad to suspect was shot and killed. Dirt napp. For that horrible person's actions there. In the meantime, talking about ice, you've got this column and The Observer today about an artist who is trying to portray the Queen that the Queen City has been named after as rapidly pro illegal and all this stuff like that. But separately, you have. The folks I played for you as the Audia from Minnesota, where illegal illegals are staying home. They're afraid to go out and get groceries and get grocery shopping, so this grocery store is delivering to the illegals. You have a story out of South Texas where they're saying, the construction can't continue. We can't do this because it's too many illegals getting rounded up by ice and they're too afraid to go to their jobs. You have the same thing in the city of Chicago, and I was describe it in the same thing obviously is going on Charlotte Mecklenburg. But you have the same thing going on in the city of Chicago. As I was starting to hit on, you have I'd read a really great in depth piece about how what's going on there. For example, first of all, the illegals are afraid to go to work, and so they are not able to pay their rent. And so you have landlords, many of whom love their illegals, and they're featured in these these stories and news stories I'm telling you about, and they're like, you know, they love their illegals, but the illegals can't make rent. So and it takes Illinois, being a blue state, it takes six months to get somebody out that's a deadbeat to evict them. So this lady's talking about she's lamenting the fact that while she loves the illegals, she has to initiate eviction now knowing that they're not going to be able to pay the rent six months. You also have that same woman talking about how it normally takes two weeks when she wants to turn around a unit or get air conditioning HVAC unit install usually takes two weeks, but now it takes four weeks because the illegals are afraid to go out in some days when they think that there's going to be a raid or when they think ice is going to be in the neighborhood. So she says, now it goes from two weeks to four weeks for the air conditioning system to be installed. The same thing goes for plumbing. You know, some of the landlords are saying, yeah, they'll be like, oh, I'm sorry, I can't illegal would be like, I'm sorry, we can't come in. We think that ice is in that neighborhood today. And so it's. Grinding chunks of the economy to a halt in Chicago, in Minneapolis, Saint Paul, and South Texas an undoubtedly Charlotte Mecklenberg County. And I think grinding it to a halt. Is fine. I think it's good because when you build your economy on a sandy foundation, this is what happens when you build your economy on illegal immigrants, which ultimately is slave labor. I'll get into that in a second. Then this is what happens. So when, as you know, when you find out that your foundation of your house was built or it was built in a sandy foundation, you have to build that, destroy the foundation, perhaps the house, but at least the foundation, and rebuild it. And that's what needs to happen. Period. But I want to get into that concept too as well, because you have New York City, for example, I read one heck of a lengthy piece about how New York City there's these young leftists who are living in apartments that are four thousand dollars a month, and they there's there's a particular name. I can't remember the name. It's not a common name that you and I would know, but it's a common name from this particular country in Africa, I believe. And and there's a there's a certain name that is so common among people who drop their food, you know, deliver food through uber eats or whatever, that they've made a meme about this guy, lauding him as this you know, his character. I can't remember what his name is. And it's a weird name because it's for another country. But they're like, oh, this guy's awesome. He does it. He's always here when we order food, He's here before we even blink. Oh, he's incredible. They're paying tribute to this guy, this this fictional character from that's from some country and he's illegal delivering their food. So this columnist digs into this and he says, how much is that guy actually making this person they laud and you know, a good young leftist will pat themselves in the back break they're arm patting themselves on the back. Look at awesome, am I gave this guy a big tip? Look at legal immigration works. It's awesome, isn't it. No, he broke down what happens to these illegals and how much they really make. First of all, they work seven days a week, they work sixteen hour days, okay, so their hours are. Basically that of a slave. Number Two, they cannot rent the scooter because they're an illegal, so they have to pay an American to rent the scooter in their name and with their information. So they're skimming off the top right there, Americans are Number two, those scooters get can get confiscated by New York police all the time they're illegal, and when they had confiscated, the rental places make the illegals pay for the loss of that rental scoo, which happens all the time. Thirdly, if they want to get paid, they cannot lawfully get paid through Uber Eats or whoever they're working for, contracting for because they're not an American citizen. So they have to pay another American to use their bank, which they'll skim off the top of that too. And when it's all said and done, Zornmandami, the Marxist, Islamist Communist, and those of his ilk. You know, he campaigned on saying that he'll make minimum wage in New York City thirty bucks an hour. Well, guess how much these illegal make per hour when you factor in everything I described the ones that the leftists hail as a hero to them, he makes about six bucks an hour. That's his take home. Six bucks an hour in a city that you get the mayor saying, oh, we need to make a minimum thirty thousan an hour. So what this is is a slave sixteen hour days, seven days a week, six bucks an hour. There's your alionization of illegals. People are boldly and opening celebrating slave labor. I say no, thank you, I say heck no. Actually, now I want to pivot to another part of this, because the other part of this is truckers and the amount of danger that we're in because of that. I want to hit that coming up next. And then you know that Nickelodeon start Tyler Chase. He was on Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide whatever. If you don't know who he is, he's the guy that was an actor when he was fifteen and now he's homeless in California, and it's just a very sad and horrifying look if you will, this guy has because he's been on the streets for years, homeless, drug addled and other things, and the idea that we can save this guy, The idea that if we would just help get him help, you know, get him of some housing and you know, maybe get him into rehab, that he could he'd be all good. Don't you love it when we put our views, we project our thoughts and views and values, and other. People said, look, we can help him. Hmmm, it's not that easy, is it? All right? Holiday football has arrived right With Draft Kings sports book and official sports betting partner of the NFL, the unexpected can turn game day into payday, and don't forget Draft Kings as your back with early exit. Pretty neat function here. 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For additional terms and responsible gaming resources see DKNG dot co slash audio limited time offer. I want to give back them to the illegal immigration. As you were talking about, you have over one hundred and one dangerous illegal alien truckers on California roads as one hundred and one fewer illegals on the highways. The operation Centinel was called Operation Highway Sentinel. They were going and stopping truckers and anyone who's an illegal. They obviously cuffed, stuffed and initiated deportation, grabbed him off the road. People from India, Mexico, Colombia, Who's Bekistan, Ukraine, Nicaragua, Russia, Georgia, Venezuela, El Salvador and Ondurras m hm. You know, we have a real problem with illegal truck drivers, illegals that are driving trucks. It started with a man in illegal from India who literally did a U turn jackknife on a highway as if he's in some third world where all of a sudden, you've got two lanes each way, you know, highway where people going sixty seven seventy eighty ninety miles an hour, and this guy tries to pull a U turn, which is highly illegal. Three people in a car drove right underneath his his cab ns cat, but the cargo, the back of the trailer or whatever, they go under it and they're dead. He comes out and he looks at the car like, hmm, that's interesting, as if he's looking at roadkill, not three people crushed to death underneath this his truck. He got another illegal in southern California, also from India, who was arrested for ahead of him was stop and go traffic and he was going full speed and he plodd right into these cars and stop and go traffic, and the small car in front of him, you can just watch on the dashboard camp it just blows up into flames. Three people killed, including a beloved local basketball coach. You have, it just. Goes on and on and on, and I think I even have a little something I could pop off for you from Fox News, but they chronicle all these different illegals who are driving truck who have resulted in people dying because they're legals, and they literally early driving. Here, you're don't to play for you right now. Here's a little bit of this. Here we go in the summer in Florida, the illegal immigrant trucker killed three attempting to make that illegal U turn. And back in October another killed in a truck driving incident in California. They've seen a number of incidences to include in Ontario where three were killed. And just last month you had an Oregon another horrific incident that killed two after a truck jackknife. And then just weeks ago in Tennessee, a Chinese national kills one by causing a deadly multi vehicle pile up. At Washington State, you had an illegal immigrant trucker failed to decelerate and killed one. And you know what's crazy is in those last two incidents is the Chinese illegal truck driver in the Indian illegal truck driver those crossed in twenty twenty three in Lukeville, Arizona. So listen to that, you guys. You're here for two years as an illegal, and you're already driving an eighteen wheeler that has maybe fifty eighty thousand I have no idea how many pounds of a cargo, and you don't speak English. The one who that got the illegal who was arrested for killing three people in Florida as a truck driver, he failed, as you remember, probably he out of twelve questions that the Transportation Board national excuse me, A transportation secretary Sean Duffy reported that out of twelve questions they tested him on for his English, he failed nine out of twelve. Every time you and I drive in the highways, like right now for Christmas, coming home, going to or from, and you look up at that trucker next to you, and he nods and you nods. You don't know if that's an illegal who has no idea of how to speak English, and they're gonna kill you. You don't know. And this isn't funny, this isn't hyperbole. This is truth. So let me give you an example how bad it is. Panhandle of Texas, they did in operations to Texas State Troopers DPS with ice and they determined out of everybody they pulled over for inspection they got they said that almost exactly thirty percent of every trucker was an illegal, cuffed and stuff to deport it separate deportation. In Wyoming, a sheriff up there, way up there in my Wyoming did the same thing he did to Sting on his highway and they found thirty three percent of the truckers are illegals. There, Oklahoma did the same thing. Their state troopers in conjunction with ice pulled over every single truck. On the first day they did this, they had so many illegals that they got they had to shut the operation down because the lot was already full. Within three hours they found seven illegal truckers. You know, they pulled over every truck for you know that was on the roads there on the highway on I forty, the turnpike, and they literally got seven illegals in three hours that were driving trucks right next to you, your loved one, your daughter, your son going home or to or from you know, my children are heading to Chicago from Dallas Fort Worth, where I'm sitting right now to visit my folks. They're going to drive up with their better halves together. They could be one that could be I don't even like to say it, but they could be one that would be killed by one of these illegals. We are not safe on the roads and the Oklahoma Turnpike. Though they got seven truckers in three hours, the lot was false. They couldn't bring in any more truckers, so they stopped for the day. It took them three days to get it back going. On the third day, when they got it back going, they got seventeen truckers that were driving illegally. By the end of that week, Oklahoma said they were that all the illegal truckers. Are now re riding around Oklahoma. Fifty three percent of every trucker with the non DOMICILD CDL commercial driver license in New York are illegals. According to Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, what does this mean? This means you and I are not safe on our highways. And it's because of illegals being allowed to come into this country by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, and because of illegals being allowed to get driver licenses or non domicilth commercial driver licenses from California, from Washington State, from Illinois, from New York State and other areas. And you have people locally here in Charlotte Meckleberg County. You're all over the country that you see rapidly protesting ice blowing their stupid whistle, looking like clowns for the illegals, and meanwhile, you and I are not safe on our roads. This is a deadly This is one thing I think people and I could be wrong, but I think people don't on the surface understand how deadly this is. Because not only do you need to be able to speak English, read English, to fully understand the laws and to get fully trained up, but you are dealing with tens of thousands of pounds of cargo and you can't stop on a dime of those things. You and I don't have any unless you unless you've read the stories and stuff, and I have, but I can't remember the exact this. The amount of the amount of distance it takes for them to come to a stop when they're loaded is incredible. So it is an incredibly terribly important job to have in this country. They are the lifeblood of this country. I love our truckers more than anything. I know that the good ones out there, which is almost all of them, will stop and help your wife, my wife, or daughter, or your daughter or son if something happens on the highway. They're very important, but they also make this country run. Without them, we do not run. But these illegals doing this, which are a ton of them, is insanely dangerous and deadly. And we need to get every single illegal that is driving these vehicles out of this country now. And so, as I was mentioning a little earlier, California arrested. They arrested ice, and I spoke, arrested a heart and won illegal truckers in California just doing a sting there, just one sting alone, got one hundred and one of them, and they talked about this, just like our operations in Oklahoma and Indiana. We're taking these dangerous illegal alien truckers off the roads and making California safe streets safe again. So they did this one in Indiana because you can't do it in Illinois because they are a sanctuary state and the state troopers won't. Work with you. I mean, they can do a federal one, obviously, but Indiana worked with them because they're a red state and you've got tons of traffic going through Chicago or coming out of Chicago going through Northwest Indiana to go elsewhere in this country. And they're tagging and bagging these illegals. And I'm grateful for that too. Seann Duffey said, the California illegally a transtation secretary, the California illegally issued thousands of CDLs to foreign truck drivers and they were all being revoked. They said, there's seventeen thousand illegally issued trucking licenses in California. They said, that's just the tip of the iceberg, said Sean Duffy says, and they are also warning that cartel operatives and four nationals are exploiting our nation CDL system to infiltrate freight corridors and in danger America's national security. You dang right, they are. All right. I want to get into this former Nickelodeon star you've probably seen. He went viral because he's homeless, and he looks horrible. From my years of drug abuse at homelessness, what happens when you're trying to rescue somebody like this doesn't always work out well at all. Turns out we can't just snap our fingers and go look. Come to help it look a healthy. You know. Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life, and our stories are told through images and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video started in nineteen ninety seven and Minhill, North Carolina. It was the first company to provide this valuable service, converting images, photos and videos into high quality produced slide shows, videos and albums. 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It's fifteen to eighteen maybe, and somebody, a woman I believe was the first one. But who knows that she is going to a convenience store or something like that, or liquor store. I don't know she was going there. And then there's this guy outside and she goes, oh my gosh, she's like panhandling or something. She whips out her phone and she records it on Instagram and she says, oh my gosh, are you Tyler Chase whatever his real name is. I think that's his real name. But he goes yeah to me and Nickelodeon Da da, and he looks unbelievably horrific. It's like a sad character of what his face used to look like. It's just what happens with years of living on the street, choosing to live on the street, years of drug abuse, and reportedly there's also mental illness issues that he's dealing with, schizophrenia, bipolar, that kind of stuff. So then once stat video goes out and the woman wasn't being nasty or cooler, and I think she was just just like she's like, oh my gosh, and she put it out there and you know, her heart was in the right place. There wasn't anything negative about it. And then shortly thereafter, another guy shows up at the same area and finds him and he's recording it and he's like, oh, bro, this is so terrible that he goes take some money, and he's some money. He goes, oh, thank you, so thank you. And so you see what happens, what happens from addiction, what it can do to somebody. You have a once successful and well known actor living on the streets looking horrific, and some people were critical and attacking those folks for going there and you know, recording it and putting on social media. Oh dare this should be illegal. If somebody is in a public area, you can record anything you want. We're not going to send people to jail because you don't like what they did, and they weren't doing anything nasty or mean. It wasn't They were doing it because they meet that they wish the guy the best, and they trying to help mount stuff like that. That's not got no problem with what they did. Then you have one of his former co stars, a guy named Daniel Curtis Lee who was on that Nickelodeon show with him before, and he shows up at this area and he helps him. He says, hey, you know what, I got your hotel room. In fact, here is that part. He he checked him into a hotel room here. Let me get let me play Liveber of this Year for you. So you got the key, right? Are you gonna remember to keep the key? Yes? Okay, all right? Man? Do you want TV on or you're fine? I don't okay like that? Check you yeah yeah, check check everything out. Anyway. So while he's magically helped, he now has the problem of being homeless. Has now helped he got him a hotel room. Until this happens. Guys, we got him into the hotel and just that night I receive a call from management. They're upset the door is left open. Why is there a microwave in the tub the refrigerators turned out. They I just feel so devastated. I am at a loss. And his family told me that they had tried the hotel thing before and it didn't work. And of course, Dan, why did you assume that you were going to be able to, you know, just fix this situation. I don't even think we should be at this point. Guys, three nights ago, when we tried to get them to the hospital, the authorities should have I don't understand how a system could be in place, Right, we have all these social systems where help should be provided for these people facing mental health issues, drug abuse issues. Right, taxpayers vote on this stuff all the time. Fifty one to fifty exists. A third party should be able to get someone into treatment, get them a site, you know, psychological evaluation to figure out what is going on on, and allowed them to detox. He goes on, and then he also thinks a pizza place that says they're going to feed him night and day until the thirty first. But you know, he says, don't let my boy down. Keep feeding him whatever. He means. Well, but dude, he is so naive. His family says they tried the rehab thing his family says they tried the hotel thing, it didn't work. This also kind of reminded me of Rob Reiner and his wife being allegedly being murdered by their son with his addiction. The idea that all they need is a home is a lie. The idea that I mean, you listen to this guy and he says, you know, you know, they wouldn't take him in. They wouldn't, you know. Apparently they got him in a hospital for a seventy two hour treatment or something, but then they let him out. It is so naive to think they just need a house or home or apartment. It is so naive to think they just need food. It's incredibly naive. And or if they just got some nut healthcare that would do it. The person has to want to do it. You cannot force them to do it. So what is this man? And I know he means well and everything, and the parents have they give him their blessing to do this and this kind of stuff. And the dad who's separated from the momm he's out in Georgia and she's there in California in an area that that the sun is at. But the dad told him, whatever you need to do do with my son to get him treatment. We've tried. You know, he'd be okay, they he'd go right back into drug abuse. What do you want to do? I would say to this guy who means well in California that you just heard his voice talking toot. I got him a hotel Roore, Mandy trashed. Are you surprised, I'm not surprised at all. Of course, the microwaves in the bathroom, of course, the refrigerator's upside down, of course, the door's wide open. You have a man who is incapable of caring for himself and that will not choose to get sober, and will not choose to get mental health issues, mental health care, for care. He does not want to be in that position. And by the way, what do you want to do? Lock him up? You want to lock him up against his will. That's the only thing other than him wanting to change. The only other thing that will work is if you lock him up against his will. And yes, maybe he does need to be perhaps he does need to be locked up against his will in a psyche board. But the idea that you can get him an apartment, this is the naivete of all the people on the left, and they go around the issue. They squirt around, Oh he's unhoused. We don't stay homeless, we say unhoused, and oh, if we could just create a lot of these little homes everywhere, that'll fix it. No, more often than not, you'll find that most of the places are going to be trashed and some bad stuff's going to be going on in those places. You have to want to be helped. You have to want to be helped, you have to want to be sober, you have to want to take your meds. And I'm want to get more into this coming up next. But it's so naive to think that all they need is housing or all the needs treatment. When the moment they get out, if they don't want to stay sober, they're not going to. So it's total navy. Oh look, you know this idea that he could wave a magic wand paid for his housing, et cetera. No, I want to hit on that a little bit more, along with all the allegations and the drug use with the Reiner's son and how they handled it because and this is I'm not attacking missus Reiner because they're deceased. It's terrible, but I'm going to attack the logic that mister Reiner had said publicly, and I think that's what led to unfortunately horrific demise of him and his wife. 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I use the vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground news as they make the media landscape more transparent. I'm glad we get to spend a little more time together this hour. Before I do, we got a little bit more audio that just came in from this journalist influence again named Nick Shirley, who literally goes to all these different Somali daycare centers in Minnesota, Minneapolis, Saint Paul, Minnesota, and they're getting millions and they're supposed to be children there and there's no children there, and they're not letting anybody and they're not talking to them. They won't him let him sign up, Hey, my son wants daycare. It's amazing, it's unbelievable. You hear the latest little piece that came out on that today. This is so crazy. What's going on in Minnesota. Up to nine billion dollars so far a fraud they believe may have happened. But first, just getting back to the homeless Nickelodeon former Nickelodeon start gun named Taller Chase who was fifteen and was in this series of Nickelodeon for three years now. Homeless and has been for several years. And one of his former co stars was asked or whatever saw of this and went over there and said, hey, you know paid for his hotel. Hey, we're gonna get your help and this and that, and he trashed the place and he was surprised. No, you know, somebody has to want to get sober and get the help they need to get help. You can't force them to. And the problem is this is the naivete of some folks, particularly on the left obviously, where they think you give them my house, they'll be fine, or you know, bring him into treatment, they'll be fine. Not if they don't want to, not if they don't want to. So that also reminds me of the whole and I don't want to. I'm not attacking Rob Brandner, his wife, his late wife, but I'm attacking the logic. And he had publicly said. That if only I would have listened to I should never have listened to these people with degrees on their walls. I should have listened to my son. With what he was saying about these different places, he was sending them to him for rehab. And he's wrong. Well, I know he's not with us anymore. But he was wrong. Sadly, he was dead wrong. You should never listen to your son at that point, after he's been through twenty two rehability rehabit stands twenty two times and still is not sober. You should never listen to your son. You're not talking to your son. You're talking to I believe his drugs of choice I think were methamphetamine and heroin. You're not talking to your son. You're talking at methamphetamine occupying your son's body. You're talking to heroin occupying your son's body. That's what you're talking to and a lot Sometimes what needs to happen is you need to cut your son off, and that's exactly what would needed to happen, or your son's addiction can take you down with him, and that's what happened. I'll never forget this. I had a call I fill in for stations all over the country and a couple of weeks ago or last week, I should say I was filling in Omaha right after this whole thing went down. I talked about it and talking about how what mister Roberinner was deadly dead wrong on that, saying I should have listened to my son, not the experts dead wrong, and that you have to you have to hit My mom worked in and helped run some rehabilitation a drug and real but rehabilitation centers or wings of a hospital for adolescents and for adulta different times, and she said, remember that movie Less than Zero with Robert Downey June. You're in the eighties or whatever or the nineties, That is exactly what needs to happen with some of these people. They did hit rock bottom, whether they be sitting in a jail and say I don't want this anymore. This isn't who I am. Whether they're homeless and almost die from a drug overdose, something in them needs to They need to wake up and want to change. Until that happens, you ain't doing nothing but hurting them by continuing to pour into them and help. I had a guy calling when I was doing that Omaha film last week. He said, my son is forty five years of age and I have no idea where he's at. He doesn't know where I live. My son is a drug addict. And he said, I had to read that book Boundaries. It's a very healthy book. I highly recommend you read it. He said, I had to read that that book boundaries, and it taught me to put up boundaries because if I don't, my son will. My son will take me down with them. And that's exactly I don't mean to repeat myself, but that's exactly what happened with. With the Rhiner family. And the mother of this Nickelodeon guy who's homeless and drug addled and such. She said, we've already tried that. She said, I'll buy him a phone and he'll lose the phone in two days. I bought them phones over and over again. They said they've tried putting up in a hotel. Didn't work. So that's the lesson here. No, it's not a problem with housing. No, it's not a problem with the problem is wanting. The person needs to do it. Until they do it and they make the right decision, they're going to sit in their own swill until they hopefully change their mind, and sometimes it means that they die. So the man told me though in Nebraska, said, yeah, my son doesn't have any idea where I live right now, and I pray for him. I love him, but I you know, I can't he can't be around us, he has can't have access to us. And that's exactly what needs to happened when sometime, and it's horrible and it's sad, and I don't have to go through that journey, but many many folks do, and I know there's people listening right now that do, and I think the best we can do is give them encouragement, love and prayers, because it could be any one of our kids that could out it this way. But it's how we choose to handle it that is what's important. And sadly, I think Rob Render's view of things led to him getting killed by his own son. I know it's all alleged right now, but that's what I believe happened. He trusts the guest house numerous times and they kept still letting him back in. Also, there were people he took I heard too, he took his son. They took his son to the Conan O'Brien party the day that he ended up getting murdered because he was afraid to leave him alone. But so think of how dysfunctional messed up this is to try to play twister by appeasing your addicts son and supervising him as an adult. He was there and as you've heard, I'm sure that he was going up to people like Bill Hayter, former SNL guy, and like yelling in their face. Are you a celebrity? Are you celebrity? People were so frightened at Conan's party they were going to call nine one one, but Rob Ryders said please don't, please, don't don't call nine one, and Conan apparently said that too, And he's got to deal he's got to deal with I'm sure guilty conscious that he told him not to call nine one one. I'm not attacking him. But the point is this is that that's what happens when you appease an addict. You do. You're playing a game of twister every every day, every hour, every minute, and you're not going to win. It's just the hordes of addiction. The naive mindset that says I think I can handle this, so we can handle this, we can do this is you can't appease them. It's like terrorism. It is. It's just like terrorism terrorism. You either condemn it, capture it and kill it, or you appease it. Like Australia did you keep appeasing and appeasing it. All you doing is growing that beast bigger and stronger, same thing with addiction a piece, a piece of piece, and it could end in horrible murder like we just saw. All right, this is Chris Krock. You can follow me on social media at Chris Crock Show, cchrsk okay in for Pete Calendar one of seven nine FMWBT Charlotte FM News Talk. All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could not do the show without your support and the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too and tell them you heard it here. You can also become a patron at my Patreon page or go to dpeteclenarshow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.