Abandoning conservatism to win the culture war! (08-28-2024--Hour1)

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[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Email is Pete at the Pete Kaliner show comm just a heads up the Charlotte Douglas International Airport's gonna be doing a full-scale

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[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_00]: concourse a expansion area under construction. They're gonna be doing

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Emergency situations, but they're all fake. Okay, so if you see a lot of

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You know flashing lights and people in uniforms. It's that's on purpose

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It's close to the public close to the media

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you have anybody asking you around the water cooler now, you can be the smart one

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And tell them it's just they're just running drills

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so I'm gonna throw a proposition to you and

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_00]: See if you are interested

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_00]: let's say

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_00]: We abandon conservatism

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So we can win

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_00]: the culture war and

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Advanced conservatism

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm. Yeah

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: That a good that a good deal is that a good offer? Let's just hear me out

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a big debate right now raging if you are by the way of the lefty persuasion

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You are probably unaware of this discussion that is occurring in

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: right wing media

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But it is occurring

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: People are having these arguments and discussions on the right

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_00]: because

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: There is a realignment of the political parties occurring. I've been saying this for years

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it's going to look like afterwards

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_00]: but there is a realignment as the democrat party has kind of

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Shifted further and further and further to the left incorporating more radical progressive

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_00]: elements and activists into their coalition and now those

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Elements have a lot of pull and influence

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_00]: in the democrat party

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of people that are becoming disaffected and so they are looking over at the republican party

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But the republican party has some issues that these

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_00]: centrist

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Liberal leaning democrats aren't too cool with

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Why not offer to be kind of democrat-like for them?

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: At the same time you've got the republican party that's starting to

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: shed some of the

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Long term social issue positions

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: and adopting

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: If not nuance then ambiguous positions

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And donald trump

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Has done this himself and it is causing a lot of conservatives to become wary

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Layer into that

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You have

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: organizations and people that work at them

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_00]: that have made

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Their profession their careers their

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Their paycheck is tied to

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Certain issues not getting resolved

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And just as in any organization

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_00]: If you are unable to adapt to change your organization will die and

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I've talked about this in terms of the gay marriage fight on the left the lgbt

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Lobby and the organizations that had

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Grown up around that issue of gay marriage and that was the animating issue

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Is the issue that got them the most money got them the most clout

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Right and then when the supreme court rules that

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Love is love as is written in the constitution obviously

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Then that issue goes away

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what becomes of those organizations?

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_00]: that

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_00]: were

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You know developed and

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And were supported for that issue when the issue was gone

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_00]: What about the people that work at those organizations that are pulling down pretty nice salaries?

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Six figures right if you're an executive director position

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: What do you do?

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_00]: The thing that you were hired to do you have now done. We don't need you anymore

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't need your organization

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: the same kind of issue

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Or dilemma I should say is now

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_00]: posed to

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Do

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: In that for a very long time it was all about overturning roe v. Wade

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And then that happened

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And now what what do you do?

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, for me, I had always said that this is a state issue. It always has been during the entire

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh roe v. Wade era

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_00]: My argument was always it is a state issue

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The federal government never should have interceded in this issue because the states

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Determined what is and is not murder they charge people right? It's always the state versus

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: the defendant

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Or as Kamala would say the people versus the defendant

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, those are state charges

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Leave it up to states

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I understand the argument for making a federal ban

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But if you want to do that well, that's got to run through congress

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, you're gonna have to do it. You're gonna have to do it legislatively. You don't get to do it

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Through the courts you don't get to do it by having a couple of judges with a wardrobe change wearing black robes

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And they get to pronounce a law that is not the way we are set up

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to do a law then you've got to run it through the law making body

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Which seems pretty obvious to you know idiots like me

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But here we are

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: so now that

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You had the dobs decision rovey way gets overturned now you've got this argument occurring in

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_00]: In well at the state level you got different fights going on in every individual state, right?

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But you've got organizations that were built up around a national movement, right and national pressure campaign lobbyists and stuff

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_00]: With dobs now it's it's a state-level fight and what I have seen so far

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Just my opinion they have not pivoted. They have not adapted

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And so as these

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Challenges come or these proposed constitutional amendments come at the state level

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: There doesn't seem to be organized opposition against it

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Which then of course prompts this accusation that

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: people who are

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_00]: In the right to life movement and they're drawing a paycheck that

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want a solution. They don't want to fight at the state level because if you get these things if you get abortions

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You know across the board legal everywhere, then they get to maintain their

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Organization and their fundraising apparatus

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't ascribe that motive to them because I try not to do that with people so

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I just think that they've been caught flat-footed and apparently not aware of how the fight is now manifesting

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's now going to the state level

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And also

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You're dealing with a media that is refusing to ask

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Questions of the people that are pushing the most radical abortion law. Okay, so all of that is basically to lay this framework

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Around a new york post article and a response to it or not article but

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: editorial piece by a fellow named jesse arm

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Jesse arm is the director of external affairs and presidential initiatives at the manhattan

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_00]: institute

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And the headline on this piece was that the republicans must retake control of the culture wars

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Any sites recent polling from the manhattan institute that suggests while most voters

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Support left-leaning policy prescriptions on abortion and gun control

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Clear majorities oppose racial preferences

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They are pro tough-on crime policing and prosecution

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And they have intense skepticism towards sex-based medical procedures for minors

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So he advises that republicans shift their emphasis

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Away from legacy social issues as he calls them legacy social issues and towards newer and more current cultural debates

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So republicans ought to shift their emphasis away from legacy social issues and towards newer and more current cultural debates

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Survey data from last month suggests that americans of all colors and creeds largely reject

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The activist

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_00]: racialism that crested in 2020 the summer of

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Fiery but mostly peaceful love

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: More than two-thirds of americans want a colorblind society while less than a quarter prefer a race conscious one

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Since the riots following george floyd's 2020 death of minnesota and governor waltz's anemic response as governor

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Dozens of states have adopted widely popular measures to regulate critical race theory in schools and implement curriculum

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_00]: transparency requirements, right so called

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: parents bills of rights

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: at the same time

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_00]: The appetite for soft-on crime policies has diminished significantly

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Jesse arm writing at the new york post continues scarred from covet era crime increases and highly concerned about illegal immigration

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: americans want to see policymakers take more aggressive action on public safety measures

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_00]: most voters

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_00]: including pluralities of black voters and democrat voters

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Say that our criminal justice system is quote not tough enough

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_00]: That is a majority view

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Majorities also support police clearing illegal public encampments

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Set up by homeless people along with the removal of aggressive campus protesters

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_00]: They also want bands on masks and other facial coverings in public

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_00]: majorities do

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_00]: right, so these are issues that

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're fighting the culture war you can win because these are

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Majority held positions cultural conservatives have the upper hand on the transgender issue as well

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_00]: independence blacks latino voters all consistently tell pollsters that life changing decisions about gender are being made too early in a child's life

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_00]: The same is true of social transitions

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Right most voters

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: disagree with a new california law

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: that allows

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: educators

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: To conceal from parents that their kid wants to switch names or gender pronouns at school

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Right california allows that now

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They will lie to parents right they will keep that information from their parents from the kids parents

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: under this

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: false belief that every parent will then what abuse their child

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And what is abuse

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_00]: well

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's not define the term really it just makes it makes it trickier to apply

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean abuse can range from you know kicking the kid out of the house beating them up or something or even just you know

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Not affirming

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: That's abusive

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Voters express high levels of concern over the use of cell phones in schools by children and teenagers

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_00]: in fact republican

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: governor

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: glenn yonkin in virginia

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Was the first in the nation to issue an executive order on cell phone free education in k-12 public schools

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, that's a popular position

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Even as democrats like walls

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Tar donald trump has weird

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_00]: There is evidence that the former president wishes to actually normalize

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: The g.o.p. He has pushed for a transition away from older unpopular social conservatism and towards a newer

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_00]: popular cultural conservatism

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: again jesse arm the director of

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: External affairs and presidential initiatives at the minhatten institute

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: In the new york post he says the 2024 g.o.p. Platform, which mr. trump reportedly crafted himself

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: scrapped

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Any condemnation of gay marriage?

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It changed the pro-life language to focus opposition on late term abortions only

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And it removed calls for a federal ban on abortion

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And this has gotten a lot of the pro-life community upset

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it is perceived rightly or wrongly as a retreat from the issue or a changing of the issue

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Now i've also seen people point out

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That's been what the republicans have done to the pro-life movement for decades. This isn't any different donald trump just has

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: you know

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_00]: He's just told you the truth. He's just being upfront about it whereas in the past

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Remember renae elmers remember her

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_00]: North carolina congresswoman used to sign on to every single pro-life bill

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And then when republicans actually got the chance to pass the pro-life bill

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: She then flipped and said no

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, that's been the way the g.o.p. Has treated the pro-life movement for decades

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Telling them one thing to their face and then not following through because it was a way that they could keep

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Voters, you know in the camp and keep the fundraising spigots open

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_00]: So donald trump telling the pro-lifers

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: That like i'm not doing anything after like the second trimester. That's like i'm not doing a federal ban

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: This is like this is the platform now and it's got pro-lifers upset

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And i understand why

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But on the other hand at least we know where he stands

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Republicans find themselves at a moment of profound opportunity jesse arm writes

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But also across roads

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Changes in america from the progressive lefts growing societal influence to the originalist rights victories at the supreme court have yielded an electorate that views

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yesterday's social conservatism has weird but today's cultural conservatism has sensible

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And so this is what jesse arm

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Is saying

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Conservatives need to focus on in the culture war

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Now we have an alternative viewpoint also from the right from paul godfried

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[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So in response to jesse arms commentary at the new york post paul godfried had a response at the blaze dot com

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_00]: paul godfried is the editor-in-chief of chronicles

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is uh from the american conservative

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: organization

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_00]: and

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He called it

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: A commentary

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_00]: How the republican party can drive the left backward by repackaging the cultural war

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Arm wants us to know that donald trump has quote scrapped any condemnation of gay marriage moreover the platform on which trump is running has altered pro life

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Language to focus opposition on late term abortion

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Trump has also removed calls for a federal ban on abortion

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And lend support to policies that advance pre natal care access to birth control and IVF

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_00]: most importantly

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: arm contends that trump still embraces confrontational

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_00]: policies on cultural issues where the party's position is reflective of public sentiment

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But here's what arms commentary ignores according to godfrey

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: The continued momentum of the hegemonic

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_00]: woke left

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Which seems to be increasingly radicalizing western societies particularly women

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_00]: 20 years ago neither of our two national parties would be celebrating gay marriage nor participating in the festivities of pride month

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Now both parties do quite ostentatiously

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Lest the media expose some politician for not being ecstatic enough about our obligatory non-stop worship of lgbtq

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Which yeah, there there is a bit of that. I'm not sure if you uh journalismers realize you do that sort of thing

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But but you do like

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I have held the same position. I have held on this for 20 years

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_00]: If two guys want to commit to each other and they get legal protections like you have a contract civil union contracts all that stuff fine

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever you want to celebrate yourselves and all that fine whatever but you start dressing in chaps

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: In buttless chaps and doing grinding motions on kids in the park

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I have a problem with that and it doesn't matter to me what your orientation is

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like that's the line if straight people were doing that same sort of thing. I would object to that as well

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: okay, republicans attempt to tiptoe around the abortion issue

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Is an even more telling example of woke left ascendancy

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Most western countries have far more restrictive abortion laws than many of our states

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yet here the republican party is supposed to alter its attempt to restrict abortion to all but the last three months

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Most leftist european governments routinely limit abortion to the first 15 weeks

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But any attempt in the u.s. However minimal to restrict feticide will bring out the usual feminist crew

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Shrieking about how the patriarchy will turn them into the degraded victims of the handmaid's tale

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So let me take a pause here and ask why is that the case?

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Why is why is this because I agree by the way? I agree with godfrey's description here

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Why is it that european nations most of the developed world in fact like virtually every single country has limits on abortion?

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's usually around this same

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: gestational period 15 to 20 weeks

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: so

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Why is this

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_00]: A radical idea in america

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Why does the left present this as rat as a radical idea?

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And why even more importantly do they get people to agree with them on that?

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I would submit it is because the media does not hold them to a standard of examination

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_00]: That they hold the right to

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: When you find somebody on the right that wants to ban abortion at all stages from conception

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_00]: With no exceptions for rape or incest life of the mother right?

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_00]: That person gets interviewed all the time that person will be asked to comment on it

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And then every other republican will have will be forced to play d or d defend or disavow

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, that's the game that the media plays against republicans when anybody who's a republican or a conservative says something stupid

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Says some belief that the media thinks is double plus on good

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: They get a mic stuck in their face and they have to defend or disavow

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_00]: something that somebody else said

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: and

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_00]: That is never the case on the left and what's more there is never an examination of

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: The guardrails or the limiting principles of leftist policy

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: When they when they say we are for you know choice

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and uh reproductive freedom and they they dress it up in all of these uh euphemisms

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_00]: There's never an examination of what that actually means and walk me through so like

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: What if you can you partially deliver the baby and then kill it? Is that allowed at what point do do rights obtain?

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: right when when does that child have rights

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And that is the argument that has never had that's never examined

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: With an honest media it would be in this debate

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's not and that allows public perception

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_00]: To be crafted in a way that is more beneficial to one side of the argument

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: The non left and other dissenters from the woke state religion will not likely win a culture war until the other side is utterly discredited

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_00]: right

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00]: the woke

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Religion must be discredited

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The alternative will be more phased withdrawals of the kind that the GOP is now engaged in

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Jesse arm isn't praising the key to victory

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But rather another fallback position in a series of tactical withdrawals

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure how the losers can become the victors

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But until that happens they and the GOP the party where the cultural right is now lodged out of necessity

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Will remain in a weak position outside of red strongholds

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. This is a very dangerous game that the republican leadership is playing here by abandoning conservative

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_00]: issues

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Social culture war issues thinking that those people will always vote for us

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Coalitions change the parties are realigning

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how it shakes out

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Dawes

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Is uh the host of a podcast called the great awokening and

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_00]: He points out in this fight that's going on on the right about how to fight the culture wars and

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_00]: These social cultural issues that are at play and are on the ballot

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You know this november

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_00]: that there is this

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: contingent inside the right

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_00]: of never trumpers

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_00]: who

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Have been making arguments against

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Fighting these fights or trying to say well, you know if you're a real christian you shouldn't vote for donald trump

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: as a way to try to

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_00]: prevent trump from winning

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That then prompts the response that they are not

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Merely never trumpers. They're actually not conservatives right because if you're looking at trump versus harris

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Which one of those is going to be closer to doing what you want them to do

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's very clear

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That you know when harris says although now, I don't know has her campaign said that she has flipped on this too, but

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_00]: When she says she would enact

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_00]: a federal

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh right to an abortion

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You know donald trump hasn't said that

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: So which one if you are a pro-lifer which one is better?

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you're trying to convince pro-lifers not to go vote or to go vote for harris

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That then raises the argument that you are simply doing that in order to keep your gravy train going

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, so you can keep drawing paychecks off of the issue

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: josh dawg says never trumpers

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Seeing the trump campaign's recent statements on abortion

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't care about the unborn. They care about defeating trump

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_00]: That's their first-order principle

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And for a lot of them and I follow a lot of them on twitter

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I read what they write their their op-eds although that has really got to be

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_00]: One of the easiest gigs is to be a never trump republican

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Who gets contracted to write at a liberal publication?

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Because all you have to do is just keep writing how much you hate donald trump and you just do that every single week

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And you keep getting fat paychecks

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: hmm

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking of a career opportunity. No

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He says don't let them steer you into empowering the most aggressively pro-abortion administration we've ever seen

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, so that's part of this fight. Let me get back to

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Paul got freed again the editor in chief of chronicles

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh from the american conservative, but this piece was published over at the blaze.com

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And he is responding to a piece that was written by jesse arm from the conservative manhattan institute that

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Jesse arm says look

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You know conservatives

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: uh social conservative culture warrior types need to focus on

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Issues where we have a majority of americans already focus on those issues and kind of just you know

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Let the legacy issues go

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I don't find to be a particularly persuasive like it to me

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I tend to reject

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_00]: These either or choices these what I consider to be false dichotomies

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's you have to go along with this terrible policy or else that means you're for this other really even worse

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_00]: policy

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And usually that's not the case. I don't have to choose either right

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I can I can still hold views on all of the legacy issues

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And still fight for those legacy issues and also adopt new issues, right?

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_00]: so he says

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and I found this to be important also was that the

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: the

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Cultural right is as he called it lodged in the g.o.p. It's the party

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Where they have to be basically out of necessity

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_00]: There is no place for a pro-lifer in the democrat party any longer

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_00]: so if you're pro-life

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And on every other cultural issue you are more liberal you have no place else to go

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_00]: he says

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_00]: The demographic the the college educated suburban woman demographic

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Is striking back more at men?

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Then at the few remaining restrictions on their right to kill their fetuses which in many places includes fully formed but not yet extracted babies

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Right this this idea that it's just about reproductive quote healthcare

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I would submit it's not even that it's none of that but whatever the point here is that the target isn't that any longer

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: these

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Quote liberated women view themselves despite their unprecedented human comfort as the victims of male domination

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the key and for years. I've talked about this

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_00]: tendency for interpersonal victim hood tiv this

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_00]: This mentality that people

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: develop

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00]: At a at a personal level, but it also then translates into a national societal level as well

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And when you always see yourself as the victim

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You then lose empathy for all others

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